View Full Version : More accurate, faster, and harder checks
laxmiddie11
10-29-2007, 08:49 PM
I was wondering if anyone on here new any drills or workouts that will help improve my stick checking accuracy, speed, and power.
thanks
Z12/AM
10-30-2007, 12:42 PM
POWER = STRENGTH. the saying is true, it's all in the wrists. Do some wrist strengthening exercises. personally, i do forearm curls, which will give you a stronger cradle and stick handling. Accuracy is all about repetition. set up some cans or bottles (plastic, of course) and do some slides as you poke each one, keep doing that, and each time try ro go a little bit faster. i'll look some more drills. just remember, all this isn't going to happen over night, you gotta be consistent and persistent.
cheesehead
10-30-2007, 12:45 PM
or if you have a brick wall just aim at individual bricks. i've found it also improves catching and reflexes
DanTheMan
10-30-2007, 04:30 PM
or if you have a brick wall just aim at individual bricks. i've found it also improves catching and reflexes
why would you hit your stick on a wall and how does it help your catching
anyways i did this for my friend...
i would run with like a pen or something and he would run with me w/ his dpole. i would randomly drop the pen and he would have to poke it. worked for him...
cheesehead
11-01-2007, 07:01 PM
:DOH: crap, i just saw the title up to more,accurate, faster, harder and thought it was talkin about shots
ethslax12
11-01-2007, 09:02 PM
why would you hit your stick on a wall and how does it help your catching
anyways i did this for my friend...
i would run with like a pen or something and he would run with me w/ his dpole. i would randomly drop the pen and he would have to poke it. worked for him...
i like that one a lot, im gonna have to try that
vision
11-01-2007, 09:39 PM
POWER = STRENGTH. the saying is true, it's all in the wrists. Do some wrist strengthening exercises. personally, i do forearm curls, which will give you a stronger cradle and stick handling. Accuracy is all about repetition. set up some cans or bottles (plastic, of course) and do some slides as you poke each one, keep doing that, and each time try ro go a little bit faster. i'll look some more drills. just remember, all this isn't going to happen over night, you gotta be consistent and persistent.
Power does not equal Strength, and It is not all in the wrists. The wrists play a minor role in checking.
Tehb2
11-02-2007, 02:33 AM
If you are just snap checking, wrists do a pretty good part of the work. Of course if you're going to do more poke checks and harder checks or any take-aways then you have to strengthen the rest of your arms.
Here's a suggestion, get an attackman buddy and run around beating him all day trying to take the ball away. Now whether he agrees to it or not I can't say, but if you could convince him then your set!
Sardo
11-02-2007, 06:47 PM
i gotta say to get more power in your check you definitaly gotta weight lift, in particular your arms, but in order to be a well rounded lax player you gotta work on your whole body so it wouldn't be a good idea to just work on arms every day of the week
laxar106
11-14-2007, 04:38 PM
i bought a heavy shaft and put a crappy head on it and beat this tree with it in my back yard- i measured it so im checking the right place and marked it w/ tape
theparalyzer
11-14-2007, 06:15 PM
Power does not equal Strength, and It is not all in the wrists. The wrists play a minor role in checking.
WHAT?!
Do you realize how absurd that sounds? That's like saying sprinting does not equal running.
The stronger you are, the harder checks you will throw. It's common sense.
isk8apopwar
11-14-2007, 07:58 PM
^^Good point, I was going to say that you could buy a wooden dowell rod about as long as your stick from the local hardware store, and just practice stick checks on a tree. To gain accuracy, just put a dot of paint or something wherever you would like to aim.
vision
11-15-2007, 10:50 AM
WHAT?!
Do you realize how absurd that sounds? That's like saying sprinting does not equal running.
The stronger you are, the harder checks you will throw. It's common sense.
ummmm, before you attack me you better know what you're talking about.
Power and strength are not the exact same thing. Therefore, strength does NOT equal Power. Not to mention there are many types of strengths, so you need to be specific.
Assuming you mean strength as the amount of force you can produce, power is the amount of force (times distance) produced over a given time. There is a speed component to it.
There are so many stupid responses in this thread. There are 2 things you need to do.
Increase your technique: This means playing the game against someone real. The best place to practice is in a real game, but actual practices work well too. No need for BS drills like hitting trees and hitting pop cans.
Get more powerful: A general strength program + sprints or jumps. And no, strengthening your arms is NOT the most important. Squat, Deadlift, Overhead press, Chinup, Bench, Row, Sprint, Jump. That should make up most of your training.
laxCCM
11-15-2007, 12:14 PM
I agree with you about the technique however, I disagree on your definition of power.
Yes, power = strength x speed, however what that means is how strong your upper body is times how fast it is. This does NOT mean how strong your upper body is times how fast your running. While sprints and jumps will help you get faster, it is illogical to think that it would make your checks faster or harder. The only way to increase the speed of your upper body is through dynamic effort work using exercises like clapping pushups or med ball throws.
theparalyzer
11-15-2007, 01:56 PM
ummmm, before you attack me you better know what you're talking about.
Power and strength are not the exact same thing. Therefore, strength does NOT equal Power. Not to mention there are many types of strengths, so you need to be specific.
Assuming you mean strength as the amount of force you can produce, power is the amount of force (times distance) produced over a given time. There is a speed component to it.
There are so many stupid responses in this thread. There are 2 things you need to do.
Increase your technique: This means playing the game against someone real. The best place to practice is in a real game, but actual practices work well too. No need for BS drills like hitting trees and hitting pop cans.
Get more powerful: A general strength program + sprints or jumps. And no, strengthening your arms is NOT the most important. Squat, Deadlift, Overhead press, Chinup, Bench, Row, Sprint, Jump. That should make up most of your training.
Why are you making this more complicated than it is? The bigger/stronger you are, the harder you can check. Add in the repetition of practicing for accuracy and you have a more accurate, faster, harder check...which is exactly what the OP is asking for.
And yes, I think I have a pretty good idea what I'm talking about. I have a long list of qualifications, none of which I will get into because none of it is really relevant.
OP, get bigger and stronger and practice your checks on a tree, tackling dummy, buddy and you'll see results.
vision
11-15-2007, 02:26 PM
I agree with you about the technique however, I disagree on your definition of power.
Yes, power = strength x speed, however what that means is how strong your upper body is times how fast it is. This does NOT mean how strong your upper body is times how fast your running. While sprints and jumps will help you get faster, it is illogical to think that it would make your checks faster or harder. The only way to increase the speed of your upper body is through dynamic effort work using exercises like clapping pushups or med ball throws.
Clapping pushups and medball throws are great, but understand that just because the stick is in your hands, doesn't mean your lower body isn't involved.
vision
11-15-2007, 02:30 PM
Why are you making this more complicated than it is? The bigger/stronger you are, the harder you can check. Add in the repetition of practicing for accuracy and you have a more accurate, faster, harder check...which is exactly what the OP is asking for.
And yes, I think I have a pretty good idea what I'm talking about. I have a long list of qualifications, none of which I will get into because none of it is really relevant.
OP, get bigger and stronger and practice your checks on a tree, tackling dummy, buddy and you'll see results.
How am I making things complicated? I've had the simplest answer so far.
Getting bigger and stronger is important, but if it comes at the expense of speed, then your power might not be improving.
I don't understand why you would bring up qualifications if you weren't going to list them anyways. And if they aren't relevant, they aren't important.
Trees and dummy's are great opponents.....:whyme:
theparalyzer
11-15-2007, 05:15 PM
How am I making things complicated? I've had the simplest answer so far.
Getting bigger and stronger is important, but if it comes at the expense of speed, then your power might not be improving.
I don't understand why you would bring up qualifications if you weren't going to list them anyways. And if they aren't relevant, they aren't important.
Trees and dummy's are great opponents.....:whyme:
Well I'm sure one of his teammates would love him slashing them for hours on end.
And unless you're a college coach or a top 25 high school coach, I'd love to see where you're coming from with all of this.
And I said listing my qualifications was not relevant...not that they weren't important. There's a difference.
Reading comprehension FTW!
vision
11-15-2007, 05:40 PM
Well I'm sure one of his teammates would love him slashing them for hours on end.
THAT'S WHY I SAID GAMES WERE THE BEST PLACE TO PRACTICE. AGAINST A TEAMMATE YOU CAN GO LIGHTER WHILE YOU FOCUS ON TECHNIQUE, OR THEY CAN WEAR MORE EQUIPMENT. HITTING A TREE WON'T MAKE YOU ANY BETTER.
And unless you're a college coach or a top 25 high school coach, I'd love to see where you're coming from with all of this.
I'M NOT A COACH, BUT I DO PLAY AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL.
And I said listing my qualifications was not relevant...not that they weren't important. There's a difference.
NOT REALLY. RELEVANT MEANS BEING CONNECTED. IF YOUR QUALIFICATIONS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH PEOPLE ACCEPTING YOUR GARBAGE INFORMATION, THAN THEY OBVIOUSLY WEREN'T IMPORTANT, AND YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE BROUGHT THEM UP IN THE FIRST PLACE. AS LONG AS YOU CAN EXPLAIN YOURSELF, THERE SHOULDN'T BE A NEED TO LIST QUALIFICATIONS.
Reading comprehension FTW!
I AGREE
Thoughts in caps...
The fact that you believe power is the same as strength, and that checking immobile trees is useful speaks for itself.
theparalyzer
11-15-2007, 06:29 PM
Thoughts in caps...
The fact that you believe power is the same as strength, and that checking immobile trees is useful speaks for itself.
Whatever you say princess.
I guess games are the time to practice...must have missed that through the 9 years of lacrosse I've been playing.
vision
11-15-2007, 06:37 PM
Whatever you say princess.
I guess games are the time to practice...must have missed that through the 9 years of lacrosse I've been playing.
12>9
Again, bad move involving qualifications.
Wooks
11-15-2007, 07:00 PM
^^Good point, I was going to say that you could buy a wooden dowell rod about as long as your stick from the local hardware store, and just practice stick checks on a tree. To gain accuracy, just put a dot of paint or something wherever you would like to aim.
I'd say get a cheap wooden shaft, not a dowel, simply because a dowel's grip would be pretty awkward. Then throw on a REALLY cheap crappy head, and hit a wall or something. I wouldn't ever throw / catch with this stick, cause the head will warp like crazy. Idk if I would even string it.
laxar106
11-15-2007, 08:09 PM
they sell this thing called a heavy head too it basically wraps around ur regular head and u can practice checks w/ it if u want, ur really supposed to throw and shoot w/ it but it makes ur shaft feel really light after words therfore making ur checks harder
theparalyzer
11-15-2007, 08:22 PM
12>9
Again, bad move involving qualifications.
Man, you're the coolest guy I know. Except I started playing in 7th grade. Do the math.
And all I'm going to say is that I've played at the highest level there is to play at. But keep it up with the ignorance and immaturity. Great idea!
vision
11-15-2007, 09:39 PM
Man, you're the coolest guy I know. Except I started playing in 7th grade. Do the math.
And all I'm going to say is that I've played at the highest level there is to play at. But keep it up with the ignorance and immaturity. Great idea!
I don't understand you
You say I'm immature after calling me things like "princess" and "coolest guy"
You talk about your credentials not being relevant, but mention them none the less.
You complain when I say power and strength aren't the same (when obviously they aren't)
I can't complain about you believing hitting a tree is effective because you are entitled to your opinion. Personally, I don't see how it has any carry over at all to the actual game. You should be able to hit a target on a tree no problem every time. The hardest part about checking is the fact that the opponent is moving.
I'm done arguing with you because this is going no where. Half of your comments are attacks, and you have rarely given any actual information.
For the last couple of posts: Using a weighted head/shaft can have benefits if used properly. Don't go too heavy or you will completely change the mechanics.