View Full Version : How to defend the offfence using picking and cut?
laxlover8
11-18-2007, 09:56 AM
Quite upset...I dun know how we defence as a whole could defend the picking and cutting....
They usually run horizontally from top left to the right side, setting picks on the top right, or sometimes near the right pipe, and cutters cut horizontally towards where a feeder is ready to feed the ball from top right...
We know they set picks, but we just could not tackle the problem!
I am very very frustrated now, could anyone offer me some advice?
CoachK
12-03-2007, 06:26 PM
You've got lots of options..... The basics are simple & you'll want to talk to your coach about what they want...
1) Switch men on picks... It's easy, teams do it, but it can create match problems.
2) If you know they're coming (think talk "pick coming") you can fight high or low around it.
I rarely switch picks, & I prefer my kids do not as well. When you see one coming, I step toward it before it's set. If I'm doing it right, the man setting the pick will have to plant his feet before he wants to (think a few steps before he wants to) and my man will have a tough time using it properly. I should have plenty of room to beat him over the top of it to stay with my man.
Basically, a good pick has you hitting the pick as the cutter comes off his shoulder. I want to beat my man to the shoulder & take that lane forcing him high or back under.
If the picks are on the crease, we treat it differently, but I hope that makes sense. It's easier to see on the field than typing it out online, but ask questions if you have them.
3rdPersonPlural
12-03-2007, 08:23 PM
Coach K, I really appreciate your input but
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/4/daaaaamn.jpg (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=748)
I got lost and I'm kinda keen on this.
If you said what I think you said, it is of considerable value. Could you elaborate?
CoachK
12-04-2007, 07:54 PM
I was in a little bit of a hurry posting that, but I assume you were confused with the final part... Not confused, I'm sure you understand it, but I'm having trouble explaining it online.
Imagine someone is coming to pick you on your left. If they do it properly, your man will set you up in a way that runs you into the pick, while he brushes off the picker's shoulder. This means you both get to the pick at the same time, only you get picked. This frees him up to receive the feed.
Same situation, except you see the pick coming. Instead of getting to the pick at the same time, you move to your left & beat him to the pick. You can then fight over or under the pick depending on the situation.
I hope that solves the issue. The key here is to see the pick coming, either you can see it, or a teammate calls it out.
Did I do a better job?
ATXlacrosse
12-04-2007, 10:42 PM
our coach basically put a middie almost in zone right infront of the cage and followed them.
laxlover8
12-06-2007, 09:42 AM
Let me know if I understand your point...
1. So you mean when you see your opponent wanna set up a pick, you step left and let the pick could not take place? (coz you are not picked by your opponent?)
2. And one more question...when my opponents fail to set picks upfield, they start to move towards the crease area and set picks in there, how could my team defend them?
I was in a little bit of a hurry posting that, but I assume you were confused with the final part... Not confused, I'm sure you understand it, but I'm having trouble explaining it online.
Imagine someone is coming to pick you on your left. If they do it properly, your man will set you up in a way that runs you into the pick, while he brushes off the picker's shoulder. This means you both get to the pick at the same time, only you get picked. This frees him up to receive the feed.
Same situation, except you see the pick coming. Instead of getting to the pick at the same time, you move to your left & beat him to the pick. You can then fight over or under the pick depending on the situation.
I hope that solves the issue. The key here is to see the pick coming, either you can see it, or a teammate calls it out.
Did I do a better job?
TXD2LAX
12-07-2007, 05:05 PM
What I like that I saw Hopkins do against UVA a few years ago was a "Zone + 1" It is fairly simple yet cut down on the open looks to the cutters in front of the cage. Set your defense in a "box and one" like on man down defense. The man that is not one of these 5 players is on ball. As the attacking team throws the ball around the closest player to the ball in your box goes and plays the ball. The one that was on the ball now comes part of the box, with your players shifting to fill the hole and to accomodate the player returning to the box.
This allows you to play man to man on the ball, and a tight "man down" type of zone in front of your keeper. And the defender in the middle of your box can clean up anything that might get through.
CoachK
12-08-2007, 09:48 PM
To Question 1.
I move toward the pick, so he has to set his feet earlier, or I move down toward the cage, so there is more room to move above the pick.
If I see the pick early enough, the man I'm guarding won't have started moving, or will be a little late to get started, & I'll move around the pick to cover him.
Monkeyboy_ick
12-24-2007, 10:48 PM
you guy might need to get a little physical when getting through pick if you don't switch on the pick another good defense for the pick and cut is run a 5 man with a middle string to watch for the cut but one of the downsides is that you might sacrifice a little closer shot and if the string has to slide the backside has to be slide to or the guy on the pick and the cutter wil both be open