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LaxRef
11-28-2007, 10:49 AM
This is dated 10-25-07 but apparently was never sent out to the masses:

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MEMORANDUM

October 25, 2007

TO: Men’s Lacrosse Head Coaches and Officials.
FROM: Willie Scroggs, chair
NCAA Men’s Lacrosse Rules Committee.
SUBJECT: Rules committee updates and interpretations.

The NCAA Men’s Lacrosse Rules Committee held a conference call recently to clarify several rulings for the 2008 season:

1. Gloves. Any glove that has the palm or fingers cut out from it (during the manufacturing process or by the player) will not be allowed in NCAA play.

2. Rule 4-3, Faceoffs. Before a face-off, if a wingman commits a technical violation, that team’s face-off man must leave the field through the special substitution area as the official begins play with a quick restart at midfield.

The committee hopes that penalizing wing and face-off violations in this manner will reduce the number of face-off violations during 2008.
A new approved ruling was added to assist with the administration of this rule:

SITUATION: As soon as A1 is whistled for a faceoff violation can he sprint to the special substitution area so his substitute can enter the field of play. RULING: Yes.

3. Rule 4-13-c, Ten-second count. The new rule regarding the ten-second count on a ball being thrown outside the attack area by the offense will be enforced in all situations (e.g., a shot which hits the goalpost or a player and rebounds outside of the attack area).

A new approved ruling was added to assist with this rule:

SITUATION: B1 throws a clearing pass to B2 that goes over his head and touches the ground across midfield. Does a 10 second count start when the ball touches the ground across midfield? RULING: Yes.

4. Approved type of ball. The committee ruled that a new ball submitted to it for review met the NCAA specifications and is legal for play. The ball has a surface which has a slight texture to it.

Thank you for your attention to these directives. Any questions may directed to me via e-mail at wscroggs@uncaa.unc.edu or to Secretary-Rules Editor Chuck Winters at cwsl@supernet.com.

massref
11-28-2007, 11:09 AM
SITUATION: B1 throws a clearing pass to B2 that goes over his head and touches the ground across midfield. Does a 10 second count start when the ball touches the ground across midfield? RULING: Yes.

Yikes!!:chair:

LaxRef
11-28-2007, 01:42 PM
SITUATION: B1 throws a clearing pass to B2 that goes over his head and touches the ground across midfield. Does a 10 second count start when the ball touches the ground across midfield? RULING: Yes.

Yikes!!:chair:

They'd better specify that the ball doesn't land in the attack area, since there had better be no count if the ball is in there.

BTW, it will be interesting how many things are on the list of differences between NCAA and NFHS this year. Despite the number that were eliminated, there are a lot of new ones that substantively affect the play of the game.

eme
11-28-2007, 02:52 PM
"BTW, it will be interesting how many things are on the list of differences between NCAA and NFHS this year. Despite the number that were eliminated, there are a lot of new ones that substantively affect the play of the game."

Eliminating them seems a Sisyphean task.....

LaxRef
11-28-2007, 03:16 PM
"BTW, it will be interesting how many things are on the list of differences between NCAA and NFHS this year. Despite the number that were eliminated, there are a lot of new ones that substantively affect the play of the game."

Eliminating them seems a Sisyphean task.....

I just wish the coaches could see that this isn't an NFHS vs. NCAA issue, but an officiating consistency issue. Coaches are always saying they want consistent officiating, and random rule variations is a sure-fire recipe for inconsistent officiating.

Sure, you can always say, "It's the officials' job to learn the rules," but the fact is that not every official who works games under both rule sets is willing to learn the differences or even capable of keeping them straight under pressure.

Woodenstick
11-28-2007, 03:23 PM
"BTW, it will be interesting how many things are on the list of differences between NCAA and NFHS this year. Despite the number that were eliminated, there are a lot of new ones that substantively affect the play of the game."

Eliminating them seems a Sisyphean task.....

For those not familiar with the Greek myth and who lack the time to look it up on Wikipedia:

Sisyphus was a treacherous king who punished by Zeus by being cursed to roll a huge boulder up a hill, only to have it roll down again, and repeat this for eternity.

So those trying to eliminate the NCAA/NFHS differences are doomed to work hard for eternity but fail. Unfortunately, it seems that the myth applies.