KYLE HARRISON TO BE TRADED?!?!

[dodgerlax34]

guys kyle harrison came to the lax unlimited in mi town yesterday
i overheard him saying that he is moving from baltimore out to LA
he said that because of it the nj pride will trade him
also hopefully to somewhere out west

[stinch38]

good. hopefully we can get some good players so we can finally have a semi respectable year

[bigdale9]

Riptide made it to the championship, thats pretty respectable to me

[westlakelax17]

The riptide would be so stacked if they got kyle harrison. he said on the inside lacrosse blogs that he was looking at housing in Hermosa Beach so thats defiantly socal.

[lax-crazy]

I think he was talking about the pride

[EastCoastDeft]

new jersey pride is on the east. you must be absolutley stupid if you want to trade kyle

[MaKiMaKi13]

it was already announced awhile back that he's moving out west

[Lurker]

That would suck if he moved out of Baltimore. Last year, he visited my school a few times.

[Auburn10]

He is moving out west not only because of this possible trade or whatever, but he also is doing it to be closer to Nike for his sponsorship with them

[MaKiMaKi13]

Ayo!!!! What’s going on everybody?! I hope you all have had a good time last weekend and have had a good week thus far. I’ve been out in LA for about the past 6 or 7 day’s doing a few events for STX, and looking around for a place to live! Oh yeah, I forgot to mention! I’m moving out to LA (probably Hermosa) in February! As a Baltimore kid, who went to college in Baltimore, and then lived there for the past two years that I’ve been out, it’s about time to make that move! Even if I don’t stay out here too long, I think I’m at a point in my life where I need some type of change, and the west coast is definitely a nice place to be, at least for a little while.
http://blogs.insidelacrosse.com/2007/11/15/checkin-in-from-out-west/

just for more proof

[njone42]

that would be so great i would love to go to one of his camps

[playwithpride14]

...crap....

[Prof. Mushroom]

...crap....
:chuckle: Pride fans can't be too happy about that...

[WinnytheSully]

I guess this means another cribs knockoff from IL about Kyle's House

[splaxer13]

ya the riptide will be sick

[Redbirds Lax]

I guess this means another cribs knockoff from IL about Kyle's House

lmao.. that so true

[JohnsHopkins16]

Yeah Riptide are talented. KH is successful where ever he goes, whether it be education, lacrosse, or sponsorship

[laxer6]

It's not that big of a deal for the Pride. Kyle Harrison is a huge name so the Pride are going to demand alot in return for him but he has been a bust in the MLL. He was supposed to bring the Pride back to the old days of when the won games and all he's done has been a mid level talent. He will put up points in L.A. playing on a line with Sean Lindsey and Graham Gill and the Pride might be able to squeeze the second overall pick out of this trade. Looks like a good deal for the Pride.

[MaKiMaKi13]

It's not that big of a deal for the Pride. Kyle Harrison is a huge name so the Pride are going to demand alot in return for him but he has been a bust in the MLL. He was supposed to bring the Pride back to the old days of when the won games and all he's done has been a mid level talent. He will put up points in L.A. playing on a line with Sean Lindsey and Graham Gill and the Pride might be able to squeeze the second overall pick out of this trade. Looks like a good deal for the Pride.

Exactly KH is an OKAY player in the MLL putting up 27 pts he is no Grant Jr (71 pts)

but like laxer6 said Gill(38pts) and Lindsey (36 pts) are sick middie line for LA

[Laxattack05]

he hasnt been a bust. he's been an elite player in the MLL this whole time. 27 points (15th among midfielders), 19 goals (14 among Midfielders), 6 assists, 35 groundballs (4th among non-faceoff men)... not bad at all... not great... because he doesnt have any people helping him on offense besides Scott Urick and Connor Ford (also the only 2 players ahead of him in points on the Pride). also besides probably Chazz Woodson, he's probably the most explosive player in the game. and it doesnt help midfield stats when your faceoff man is winning 42% of his draws.

[lax-crazy]

still if LA gets KH they just get all that much more deph.

[laxordie14]

while Kyle has not been a complete bust, he has not done anything star worthy. The mll is a midfielders game and he has not filled the huge shoes he left at hopkins. he was expected to be a game changer like he was expected to be out of college, but not a total bust either. I wish him the best of luck in the league and getting used to life on the left coast.

[laxer6]

How can you call a player elite when there is 14 players at his position with more points than him? Casey Powell had how many more points in how many less games? Kyle Dixon in his first full year dominated with alot of bigname guys with little prduction last year, Lindsey and Gill both had more points than him,Law,Sonke and Sims all had better years, Poskay and Bucktooth both scored more goals, I haven't even touched Closey and Steribel or the fact that Stephen Berger had mor epoints that Kyle. Let's not forget Until he stopped playing Kevin Boland was the best midfielder on the Pride. Kyle Harrison was an elite college player and so far is a pretty good pro. Those numbers for a second rounder are good, not for a first overall pick that was supposed to be a savior.

[MACDADDY]

i thought hes moving to SoCal because he is a rep for Nike as well as Stx and is going to be working down there.(hence the new if you are with nike, you have to be with STX sponser thing)

[Lax101]

he hasnt been a bust. he's been an elite player in the MLL this whole time. 27 points (15th among midfielders), 19 goals (14 among Midfielders), 6 assists, 35 groundballs (4th among non-faceoff men)... not bad at all... not great... because he doesnt have any people helping him on offense besides Scott Urick and Connor Ford (also the only 2 players ahead of him in points on the Pride). also besides probably Chazz Woodson, he's probably the most explosive player in the game. and it doesnt help midfield stats when your faceoff man is winning 42% of his draws.
You're telling me a former #1 pick in the MLL, Tewaraaton Trophy Winner, Team USA Member, and STRICTLY offensive player scoring not even in the top 15 of an offense-oriented league isn't being a bust?

Elite? Since when does the top 15 players of a ten-team league all count as elite?

Logically speaking, there are 3 starting midfielders per team. In a ten-team league, that makes 30 starting midfielders-which would make Harrison right smack in the middle of the starting midfielder groups. Comparitively, the MLL, MLB, NFL, and NHL all have roughly 30 teams, give or take. Do we consider the top half of the league "elite"? Do we count the top 15 players in the NBA in scoring all as "elite"? And we're not supposed to criticize Harrison here?

And several of the top 15 above him play defense as well. Harrison led Hopkins in scoring as a 3 way player. He scored, he played defense, and he took faceoffs. Now, he only has to do one.

His only role on the team is to be a scoring threat, as this team is essentially built around him.

Harrison thrived at Hopkins. No MLL team has more Hopkins alumni than New Jersey. New Jersey managed to acquire his best attackman while at Hopkins (Ford), his best feeder (Boland), his hardest shooter (Doneger), his goalie (Scherr), and a bunch of other role players. No other MLL team has the luxury of playing with as many former teammates. And when Harrison played with all of these great players, he got all of the scoring opportunities he wanted.

Harrison doesn't have help? See the above, and remember this: it's the MLL. Every team scores, whether or not the team is good. If anything, players are fighting for points rather than looking to get backup. And when teams are subpar, ANY player can step up and score. Conor Ford was a benchwarmer bouncing around the league before the Pride plucked him out of the supplemental draft. And now he's the team's leading scorer, playing his unnatural position. Meanwhile, Harrison continues to rack up pedestrian numbers.

How pedestrian? He sits slightly above Brad Heritage and slightly below Brandon Spillet in scoring for midfielders. And Harrison has probably one of the most decorated resumes in lacrosse.

Harrison is a nice guy. He's a great guy, in fact. Does a lot for the game off the field, extremely pleasant to all of his fans, and he does a lot more than the already primadonnas in the league. But to consider the guy a success in the MLL is a far cry. He's an average midfielder who had much more than average expectations. And people have been too afraid to call him out on this.

[dodgerlax34]

guys he said out west so denver and san francisco are contenders probably
also about his points he was talking about it on saturday about the HUGE difference between the college game and the mll
he said the college game it is dodge and dump then wait for the ball to come back to you
in the mll when you dodge you have to shoot because you won't get the ball back
he said he still dishes out though
with him was one of his buddies who assistant coaches the li lizards
he said when they were trying to figure out how to cover him they knew he always dished out the ball
so the lizards just put a short stick middie on him and when he got beat kh would just pass
so that kind of explains his low numbers...
but then you could say e should have more assists

[westlakelax17]

guys he said out west so denver and san francisco are contenders probably

Actually as I siad in my post above, he was looking at Hermosa beach to live, so why would he go to CA and play in Denver???

[laxer6]

Come on this guy had six assists. If he goes to Denver he'll get buried in the depth chart and if he goes to San Fransico he'll be the vocal point of the offense(middie wise) and have teams putting solid defenders on him. The best thing for him would be to go to L.A. and feed of Gill and Lindsey.

[lax-crazy]

doesn't LA aslso have chazz woodson? So... wouldn't harrison be the 4th middie or something if LA picks him up?

[kleinlax-75]

wow i guess riptide will wreck even harder

[laxer6]

Why are we so sure L.A. wants this guy? They have a team that made it to the final last year and are getting either Danowski or Rabil. New Jersey is going to have a high asking price for Kyle so why would the Ripetide want to dismantle a team that has chamionship hopes?

[stinch38]

I was talking about NJ having a semi respectable year all the way at the top. LA was good last year

[MACDADDY]

that would be amazing of danowski or rabil went to LA or SF. i can understand if Rabil plays for SF though to play with Byrne. (hoping)

[Prof. Mushroom]

that would be amazing of danowski or rabil went to LA or SF. i can understand if Rabil plays for SF though to play with Byrne. (hoping)

If Danowski or Rabil went to LA, the Riptide would be amazing and bursting with talent.

[laxer6]

The Ripetide have the second overall pick as of right now so they are getting one or the other. Whoever the Machine like least.

[lax-crazy]

Whats the machine lacking in more attackmen or middies?

[Prof. Mushroom]

This is on IL.com
http://blogs.insidelacrosse.com/2007/12/07/riptide-finalize-deal-for-harrison-hughes/

And found this on the MLL site
http://majorleaguelacrosse.com/news/pressreleases/index.html?article_id=860

[CApenguin88]

so who thinks the trade is worth the no 2 and the no 9 draft pick?

[shiftylax]

Theonly reaon this trade works is because LA has already established itself as a well-coached and well-run franchise. It takes time for rookies to get accustomed to the MLL, but Harrison and hughes are veterans at this point and will be able to contribute to LA right away. La needed some more depth at Deep D and Hughes brings a physical presence to an already athletic back line. Harrison's quickness on the wings will help tremendouly with the Riptide's transition offense. Harrison's ability to create up top will also free up the sides and allow LA to run a natural 2-2-2 to give Ford help behind the cage. Great trade for the Riptide, good trade for the Pride - assuming they get a star that early in the draft and a reliable starter with the 9 spot. LA is now the team to beat in the MLL - especially with Philly in flux.

[Prof. Mushroom]

The Ripetide have the second overall pick as of right now so they are getting one or the other. Whoever the Machine like least.

It is highly unlikely the Riptide will get "one or the other" now seeing as they traded their No. 2 and 9 picks for Harrison and Brett Hughes. However now the Riptide will be essentially unstoppable.

[laxer6]

Well when I made that statement it was before the trade. Yeah the Ripetide got Harrison and Hughes is a huge pick up but unstoppable? Kyle Harrison is not a star in this league, if it weren't for his college career there woulldn't even be a forum on this. Plus who is to say that Gill and Jaraboe can't play due to Naval commitments or maybe Spencer Ford demands a trade due to not wanting to travel. Also let's not forget about Denver, I know they had a bad year but there is a reason Jesse Schwartzmann has 2 titles and 2 M.O.P. awards. But let's talk about New Jersey here. They have the numbers 2,3,9 and 10 overall picks and this is a huge senior class. With the two pick your talking about bringing in either Rabil or Danowski, the three pick could be Coco,Nick o'Hara or Reubor, with many teams not needing a goalie Hewitt could fall to nine and than with the ten pick your picking up the tenth best senior in college lax. They have nine pick in this years draft which is 3 more than any other team and they have the chance to keep to N.J. stars in New Jersey.

[dodgerlax34]

good trade for la
i called it
jk