Is NASCAR a sport?

[lslaxer]

Do you think NASCAR is a sport? Why?

I think it really depends on how you define 'sport,' but I'm not really decided.

[bigdale9]

it requires massive ammounts of concentrations in a dangerous and location with many factors around you.
I say its a semi sport

[valax16]

I don't exactly consider it a sport, but I have to admit it must take some [courage] to drive that fast with only 2 inches seperating you and another person.

[bmxinspired]

id say its a sport youre either going to win or lose right?

[JLancer24]

–noun
1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sport)

I would say driving a car that is over 100 degrees traveling at 220 mph and separated from other cars by only a few inches requires a tremendous amount of skill and concentration. It's a sport.

[Meade Lacrosse]

Difficult? Yes. "Sport," No.


At best, its an extreme sport.


It is certainly 10 times the sport Poker is.

[cjm3113]

Difficult? Yes. "Sport," No.


At best, its an extreme sport.


It is certainly 10 times the sport Poker is.

Nice way to sum it up. Poker definitely a game.

[CtLaxin]

well i think it is but it goes against everything i normally say.

you play a sport and you cant play nascar so idk

[WinnytheSully]

Non
Athletic
Sport
Centered
Around
Rednecks

[lebolax44]

Non
Athletic
Sport
Centered
Around
Rednecks

haha dude this is so true. it doesnt matter what anyone says now, this acronym sums up nascar. yea these guys are good at racing, but they turn left, drive fast, and pee their pants, and sit down for four hours. sport? no.:bartmoon:

[chucktownattack]

It depends on what state you're in...

[cjm3113]

well i think it is but it goes against everything i normally say.

you play a sport and you cant play nascar so idk

You play monopoly, but it isn't a sport.

[WinnytheSully]

that's not true for any individual sport, so i guess your saying athletic things that are individual can't be declared sports

[<<RANGER>>]

Non
Athletic
SPORT
Centered
Around
Rednecks

I guess it is...barely...

[QBYattackmen15]

its a thing where you COMPETE for chmpionships and prizes and what not. you compete against others in a dangerous way. im gonna say 100% sport... no matter how stupid it is. It has rules and Customs like any other sport. it is physical though poeple might not think so. you have to keep very hydrated and be in pretty good shape so you dont pass out.

P.S. this is straight from dictionary.com

Sport-–noun
1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as RACING, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

there ya go

[Wooks]

–noun
1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sport)

I would say driving a car that is over 100 degrees traveling at 220 mph and separated from other cars by only a few inches requires a tremendous amount of skill and concentration. It's a sport.

Alright, I'll give it to you. By the definition in the dictionary, yes. It is a sport. But to me, I don't think that definition is correct.

It should be "requiring skill AND physical prowess" not or.

Yeah, Nascar is dangerous, yeah, it requires a lot of skill, but a sport? No. To me, sports involve athleticism. Racing involves no athleticism. You turn a wheel, you press the levers. No physical prowess.

On a side note, skill and concentration don't define a sport. Take drawing for example. It requires a lot of concentration, and it takes a lot of skill. I don't think anyone out there would call it a sport though.



Plus racing kinda just sucks. Some retards realized that watching cars going around in a circle isn't that fun, and then concluded that it would be more fun to watch them go around the circle 500 more times instead. Nascar sucks.

[cjm3113]

Alright, I'll give it to you. By the definition in the dictionary, yes. It is a sport. But to me, I don't think that definition is correct.

It should be "requiring skill AND physical prowess" not or.

Yeah, Nascar is dangerous, yeah, it requires a lot of skill, but a sport? No. To me, sports involve athleticism. Racing involves no athleticism. You turn a wheel, you press the levers. No physical prowess.

On a side note, skill and concentration don't define a sport. Take drawing for example. It requires a lot of concentration, and it takes a lot of skill. I don't think anyone out there would call it a sport though.



Plus racing kinda just sucks. Some retards realized that watching cars going around in a circle isn't that fun, and then concluded that it would be more fun to watch them go around the circle 500 more times instead. Nascar sucks.

It takes a lot more physical ability to race Nascar than you would imagine.

[slinkyspine]

Wooks if you can maintain your perfection and concentration in a 100+ degree car for 3 hours while wearing a full racing suit and helmet. And still say it takes no physical ability. Than you must be the reincarnation of christ.

It looks easy, but you have to be in hella good shape if you want to do well.


You all talk like you've raced before. Sure you could be 300 pounds and out of shape to do it... you just would be bad at it. You could be obese and play lacrosse too...

[Meade Lacrosse]

Unlike other "Sports," though, how can you physically train for NASCAR? I mean, can you lift weights? Can you wake up at teh crack of dawn and run 2miles every morning? Can you go through two-a-day practices? Will pushups/situps help you steer better?


NASCAR is certainly extremely difficult. There's no denying that. The LONG drive, plus the scorching heat don't make it exactly easy. But that doesn't mean its a sport.

But thole fitness level goes out the door. Look at the best football, hockey, basketball, and soccer players. Do any of them have the body of Tony Stewart?

[kryptic]

[QUOTE=Meade Lacrosse;1408983]Unlike other "Sports," though, how can you physically train for NASCAR? I mean, can you lift weights? Can you wake up at teh crack of dawn and run 2miles every morning? Can you go through two-a-day practices? Will pushups/situps help you steer better?


NASCAR is certainly extremely difficult. There's no denying that. The LONG drive, plus the scorching heat don't make it exactly easy. But that doesn't mean its a sport. QUOTE]

By our defination above, how do you train for hunting or fishing?

Do a lot of cleans so you can lift that deer over your back? No. You practice shooting your firearm/bow.
How do you practice racing? You drive.


Here's a better defination
"Sport is a physical activity involving large muscle groups, requiring strategic methods, physical training and mental preparation and whose outcome is determined, within a rules framework, by skill, not chance. Sport occurs in an organized, structured and competitive environment where a winner is declared."

Believe it or not, it's a sport.

[Eclipse]

Beleive it or not its a sport, with a following about 100,000x greater then lacrosse.

There is a reason you don't see fat racecar drivers, these guys are actually in great shape, mentally and physically. I think its safe to say that SPORTS require a great amount of mental preparation and mental skills, and these guys probably have more mental concentration then any other athletes in any sport. What requires more concentration to you guys? When to recognize a double team? How to explode to the hole? Running a give and go? Or drafting within inches of your opponet and flying past him at 200 mph while going around a corner? You guys need to realize just because something doesn't involve running, doesn't mean it isn't a sport. Golf and Bowling are two good examples.

[roycegracie47]

Wooks if you can maintain your perfection and concentration in a 100+ degree car for 3 hours while wearing a full racing suit and helmet. And still say it takes no physical ability. Than you must be the reincarnation of christ.

It looks easy, but you have to be in hella good shape if you want to do well.


You all talk like you've raced before. Sure you could be 300 pounds and out of shape to do it... you just would be bad at it. You could be obese and play lacrosse too...


By our defination above, how do you train for hunting or fishing?

Do a lot of cleans so you can lift that deer over your back? No. You practice shooting your firearm/bow.
How do you practice racing? You drive.


Here's a better defination
"Sport is a physical activity involving large muscle groups, requiring strategic methods, physical training and mental preparation and whose outcome is determined, within a rules framework, by skill, not chance. Sport occurs in an organized, structured and competitive environment where a winner is declared."

Believe it or not, it's a sport.

Beleive it or not its a sport, with a following about 100,000x greater then lacrosse.

There is a reason you don't see fat racecar drivers, these guys are actually in great shape, mentally and physically. I think its safe to say that SPORTS require a great amount of mental preparation and mental skills, and these guys probably have more mental concentration then any other athletes in any sport. What requires more concentration to you guys? When to recognize a double team? How to explode to the hole? Running a give and go? Or drafting within inches of your opponet and flying past him at 200 mph while going around a corner? You guys need to realize just because something doesn't involve running, doesn't mean it isn't a sport. Golf and Bowling are two good examples.

I agree with all three assessments and rather than just parrot them for a fourth time, I'll take it one step further beyond NASCAR to F1 and not just because they don't limit themselves to tracks that rely on ones ability to turn left. Just like NASCAR's huge following here in the states add to that the status F1 drivers are elevated to by racing circles in the rest of the world. And in a competition that becomes more than just about how much money the sponsors are shooting into the races be it for livery or engine construction, and the superstar money thrown at drivers who crack the realm of test driving for an actual seat in a race you can best believe these for the ownership groups who want the best out of the top dollar that you don't spend your time off the track honing your other abilities both mentally and physically to stay at the front of the pole positions come race day.

There's more to racing (no matter what your poison is) than endurance and speed. Individually there are plenty of things that come into play such as techniques for drafting, turning and passing. But also keeping an eye out for anything on the track and an ear out for any information your crew has to offer much like a football player would need on field from his coaches and fellow players. Which reminds me there is also a team aspect that hasn't been discussed. Racing teams will field several drivers and they all need to work together on the circuit apart from their individual finish (much like some other sports like wrestling here you have your individual stats and team score to account for as well). Everyone has a part to play from sacrificing your position to put a teammate in a better passing lane to helping to box out an aggressive opponent as the race drags on towards the finish, again this is also compounded by the crew as well as a fit one (both mentally and physically) is essential to getting the most speed & time out of the vehicle and ensures keeping both him and the driver in the race.

So it's more than just a sport, it's a team sport at that.

[cjm3113]

While Nascar drivers don't need to be in top shape, it is definitely advantageous. Similar to golf, which I think we all agree is a sport? Look at Tiger, and then look at some of the competition.

[lslaxer]

While Nascar drivers don't need to be in top shape, it is definitely advantageous. Similar to golf, which I think we all agree is a sport? Look at Tiger, and then look at some of the competition.

I disagree with you on both points, NASCAR drivers have to be in good shape, and golf is not a sport, in my opinion.

[stinisonfire]

I disagree with you on both points, NASCAR drivers have to be in good shape, and golf is not a sport, in my opinion.

Tell that to Tiger Woods and see if he agrees with you on fitness.

[lslaxer]

Tell that to Tiger Woods and see if he agrees with you on fitness.

John Daly.

[stinisonfire]

John Daly.

Good work. There are also guys who look like him in pro football. They're called lineman. Is pro football not a sport?

John Wells of the Padres looks like him as well. Is baseball not a sport?

A sport is anything where you train to compete against someone or something else to get better.

[cjm3113]

I disagree with you on both points, NASCAR drivers have to be in good shape, and golf is not a sport, in my opinion.

In no sport do you "need" to be in good shape to play. In almost every sport (the point of my post) it is beneficial to be in good shape.

Golf is a sport.

[lslaxer]

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[flyersrule9733]

it is not, it is a hobby

[stinisonfire]

I was merely pointing out you don't have to be fit to play golf.

I also think that definition is way too broad. Poker, or if I study to beat my friend on the SATs or a certain test. I think it's where you compete against someone else which depends primarily on physical skill. I guess that would categorize golf in there then, but I don't know how to better explain it.

How about chess? Have you ever heard about the "sport of chess"? That's pretty much mental to me. Are you saying you don't have to think in other sports like wrestling or shot-putting?

And if you think being fit to perform physically, look up Sal Locasio and tell me if you think he was a "fit athlete".

Oh noes! Does this mean you don't have to be fit to play lacrosse? Waaah lacrosse isn't a sport then!

My point is that you can make anything a sport as long as you have to train to make yourself better against competition (which could also be yourself).

Are the outdoor games where they chop wood and do all sorts of crazy woodsy stuff considered sport? They appear to be fit, and it's physical.

The problem with the definition today is that too many people are too caught up in the physical attribute of it. A sport is what you make of it.

How about this to ponder over: Kobyashi and Eater X; are they athletes because they have to be in a certain physical shape to eat as much as they can?

[lslaxer]

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[Meade Lacrosse]

[QUOTE=Meade Lacrosse;1408983]Unlike other "Sports," though, how can you physically train for NASCAR? I mean, can you lift weights? Can you wake up at teh crack of dawn and run 2miles every morning? Can you go through two-a-day practices? Will pushups/situps help you steer better?


NASCAR is certainly extremely difficult. There's no denying that. The LONG drive, plus the scorching heat don't make it exactly easy. But that doesn't mean its a sport. QUOTE]

By our defination above, how do you train for hunting or fishing?

Do a lot of cleans so you can lift that deer over your back? No. You practice shooting your firearm/bow.
How do you practice racing? You drive.


Here's a better defination
"Sport is a physical activity involving large muscle groups, requiring strategic methods, physical training and mental preparation and whose outcome is determined, within a rules framework, by skill, not chance. Sport occurs in an organized, structured and competitive environment where a winner is declared."

Believe it or not, it's a sport.


You're right: Fishing and Hunting aren't sports, in my opinion.

Anyone can be Fat and still play a sport. But how many Sports can you be fat and still be the Greatest at any Position? Those are sports.

[stinisonfire]

No, I said primarily physical, obviously a mental element is always involved. In my mind, chess is not a sport.


Again, I never said you have to be fit to play any sport.

Then why is golf not a sport, according to you?



My point is that there has to be a major physical element involved, ruling out games like poker and chess.

You don't have to move the pieces and figure out the cards? Physically push chips / cards and such?

[stinisonfire]

Anyone can be Fat and still play a sport. But how many Sports can you be fat and still be the Greatest at any Position? Those are sports.

See Sal Locasio and David Wells. They are among the greatest at their respective positions.

[Meade Lacrosse]

See Sal Locasio and David Wells. They are among the greatest at their respective positions.


A) David Wells was good, but far from Great at his position.
B) I stated earlier that I feel that Fishing isn't a sport. Its a hobby turned competitive.

I haven't given this much thought, but it seems as if the mainstream thought to Sport is the whole Team thing. Most of the Sports I feel are truly "Sports," involve a unity element. I still feel that Golf and Tennis are sports, but its just something I've noticed. I still haven't given it much thought, but its something to think about.

[ATXlacrosse]

Racing is as much as a sport as lacrosse.

[lslaxer]

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[HdGLaxWarrior]

A) David Wells was good, but far from Great at his position.
B) I stated earlier that I feel that Fishing isn't a sport. Its a hobby turned competitive.

I haven't given this much thought, but it seems as if the mainstream thought to Sport is the whole Team thing. Most of the Sports I feel are truly "Sports," involve a unity element. I still feel that Golf and Tennis are sports, but its just something I've noticed. I still haven't given it much thought, but its something to think about.

nascar has teams.

[Eclipse]

John Daly.

Coincedentally, John Daly is ranked somewhere around 400th in the world right now.

[laxmj1992]

It is a sport, but a very boring one.
I don't see how anyone can enjoy watching cars go around in a circle for 4 hours nonstop.

[laxmj1992]

I disagree with you on both points, NASCAR drivers have to be in good shape, and golf is not a sport, in my opinion.

Yeah, it takes an athlete to sit in a car for 4 hours. (10).

[cjm3113]

Yeah, it takes an athlete to sit in a car for 4 hours. (10).

I'd edit this post before the whole board sees it. It only shows your ignorance.

[stinisonfire]

A) David Wells was good, but far from Great at his position.

Last I checked, he's one of 17 pitchers all time to pitch a perfect game. I consider that great.

Also.. (from wikipedia)

Career bests
* Wins in a Season: 20, with Toronto Blue Jays in 2000
* Strikeouts in a Season: 169, with Toronto Blue Jays in 2000
* Best Cy Young Result: 3rd, with New York Yankees in 1998
* Strikeouts in One Game: 16 with New York Yankees, against Oakland Athletics, July 30, 1997
* Innings Pitched in One Season: 231.2, with Toronto Blue Jays in 1999
* Best Single Season ERA as a Starting Pitcher: 3.14, with Toronto Blue Jays in 1990
* Fewest Walks Per 9 Innings in a Season: .85, with New York Yankees in 2003

Awards
* 1998 ALCS MVP, against the Cleveland Indians
* All-Star in 1995, 1998, 2000, for Detroit Tigers, New York Yankees, and Toronto Blue Jays, respectively.
* 2-time World Series Champion with the Toronto Blue Jays (1992) and New York Yankees (1998).


"My point is that there has to be a major physical element involved, ruling out games like poker and chess."

C'mon that was just a stretch.

So you're telling me golf isn't a sport ... why? I'm still confused as to what something needs for your requirements of it being a sport.

[SwRLaX10D]

to me, its a sport... barely. heres why:

1. Sports require endurance, skill, and high levels of competition. Check
2. While not in every sport, some sports require large amounts of thinking power and intelligence. Check
3. A sport must require some form of mental and/or physical strength being used. Check

therefore, its sortof a sport

while it might not be what we consider an "exciting" or "rough" sport, its still a sport... just not something I'd watch

[cjm3113]

And for everyone saying "Who would sit around and watch a Nascar race?", there are just as many people sitting around saying "Who would watch a Lacrosse game?".

[kleinlax-75]

i think its a sport just highly overrated and is very stupid also

[laxmj1992]

I'd edit this post before the whole board sees it. It only shows your ignorance.

Does it take strength and speed to drive a car? It takes reflexes and hand-eye coordination. When I think of an athlete, I immediately think of somebody who is fast, good endurance, strong, etc. Not somebody who has good reflexes.

[ML_LAX09]

nascar has teams.

Yea really. What do you think they do, pick out members of the audience before every race to be on the pitcrew?
A pitcrew can win or lose a race for you.

Would I actually go to a race? No, it's got to be one of the most boring sports to watch. But everyone has their own tastes. Would i go to see a game of golf? No, but many people do.

I'd say it's a sport.

[spyopticgoggles]

[QUOTE=Meade Lacrosse;1408983]Unlike other "Sports," though, how can you physically train for NASCAR? I mean, can you lift weights? Can you wake up at teh crack of dawn and run 2miles every morning? Can you go through two-a-day practices? Will pushups/situps help you steer better?


NASCAR is certainly extremely difficult. There's no denying that. The LONG drive, plus the scorching heat don't make it exactly easy. But that doesn't mean its a sport. QUOTE]

By our defination above, how do you train for hunting or fishing?

Do a lot of cleans so you can lift that deer over your back? No. You practice shooting your firearm/bow.
How do you practice racing? You drive.


Here's a better defination
"Sport is a physical activity involving large muscle groups, requiring strategic methods, physical training and mental preparation and whose outcome is determined, within a rules framework, by skill, not chance. Sport occurs in an organized, structured and competitive environment where a winner is declared."

Believe it or not, it's a sport.

well your whole argument depends on if you consider hunting/fishing a sport. i personally dont, even though i love fishing. i dont consider them a sport because there is no direct adversary. i guess you can say you are indirectly competing against other hunters to shoot that deer, but you arent going to shoot them just to shoot that deer. and under your definition of a sport, hunting is not a sport, but you can argue that fishing is a sport.

[stinisonfire]

When I think of an athlete, I immediately think of somebody who is fast, good endurance, strong, etc. Not somebody who has good reflexes.

So you cancel out a lacrosse goalie? Or a goalie of any sport? How about a DH on a baseball team who's only job is to hit a baseball?

[Wooks]

Wooks if you can maintain your perfection and concentration in a 100+ degree car for 3 hours while wearing a full racing suit and helmet. And still say it takes no physical ability. Than you must be the reincarnation of christ.

Physical prowess doesn't involve a high tolerance for heat.

If you put a whole bunch of artists in super-sauna and made them draw, would it be a sport?

No.

[cjm3113]

Physical prowess doesn't involve a high tolerance for heat.

If you put a whole bunch of artists in super-sauna and made them draw, would it be a sport?

No.

Actually, the better physical shape you are in the better tolerance for heat you have. Hence the reason firefighters are almost always extremely fit.

[redlax22]

NASCAR is a religious event that brings together thousands of rednecks to watch cars go in a circle. In other words no

[GCdorman40]

i love nascar. i watch it all season. keep up with stats and everything, it's just fun for me.

but it is a motor sport... meaning:

Definition: sport of racing motorized vehicles: a sport in which participants race motor vehicles, usually around a track.

to me there are different type of sports. which is why when you get certified for a sport in school you have to be cleared by a doctor to play the type of sport. so it's possible to be cleared for golf or bowling but not football or lacrosse.

football and lacrosse are high contact sports.
basketball and soccer are mild contact sports.
golf and bowling are low activity sports.
nascar and f1 are motor sports.
fishing and hunting and chess may be considered more recreational sports.

[emart]

nascar drivers actually have to be in decent shape, i mean, you would think any fat idiot with no common sense could make left turns for three hours. but, it's hot. and nasty. i wouldn't do it, but, yeah. they's cool.

[Wooks]

Actually, the better physical shape you are in the better tolerance for heat you have. Hence the reason firefighters are almost always extremely fit.

The better physical shape helping you have a better heat tolerance might be true, but I'm pretty sure most firefighters are extremely buff so they can break through stuff and lift things up to save people.

Even still, heat tolerance doesn't contribute at all to being a sport.

[stinisonfire]

heat tolerance doesn't contribute at all to being a sport.


Ever played in a cold-weathered area and then played someone in a warm area? That's part of a sport.

[WPCLAX14]

Minimum Physical Exertion. Not a sport.

[laxplaya77]

I definetly agree with WPCLAX14 on this one. Nascar is NOT a sport. I know it requires training and blah blah blah.... Its not a sport, because it doesnt require endurance except for pushing your foot down on the accelerator for 2 hours, and you dont need to be physically fit to race. Its a huge redneck thing and I hate it with a passion. Its as fun as watching grass grow, paint dry, or watching a chess match. The only race I would watch would have Ricky Bobby in it. Ha but thats it. Most real sports require teamwork and nascar doesnt. REAL sports are: lacrosse, basketball, soccer, football, etc. Whats the point of watching it? Someone please give me a reason, because I dont think there is one...

[roycegracie47]

I definetly agree with WPCLAX14 on this one. Nascar is NOT a sport. I know it requires training and blah blah blah.... Its not a sport, because it doesnt require endurance except for pushing your foot down on the accelerator for 2 hours, and you dont need to be physically fit to race.Then I suggest you read the many other posts in this this thread other than just the last one which share's your view (which your entitled to, but you should read others before making statements that others have already shot down more than a couple of times).

The only race I would watch would have Ricky Bobby in it. Ha but thats it. Most real sports require teamwork and nascar doesnt. REAL sports are: lacrosse, basketball, soccer, football, etc. Whats the point of watching it? Someone please give me a reason, because I dont think there is one...
Doesn't require teamwork eh? As the only one to point it out thus far I answer your quote with another quote (incidentally it's my quote).I agree with all three assessments and rather than just parrot them for a fourth time, I'll take it one step further beyond NASCAR to F1 and not just because they don't limit themselves to tracks that rely on ones ability to turn left. Just like NASCAR's huge following here in the states add to that the status F1 drivers are elevated to by racing circles in the rest of the world. And in a competition that becomes more than just about how much money the sponsors are shooting into the races be it for livery or engine construction, and the superstar money thrown at drivers who crack the realm of test driving for an actual seat in a race you can best believe these for the ownership groups who want the best out of the top dollar that you don't spend your time off the track honing your other abilities both mentally and physically to stay at the front of the pole positions come race day.

There's more to racing (no matter what your poison is) than endurance and speed. Individually there are plenty of things that come into play such as techniques for drafting, turning and passing. But also keeping an eye out for anything on the track and an ear out for any information your crew has to offer much like a football player would need on field from his coaches and fellow players. Which reminds me there is also a team aspect that hasn't been discussed. Racing teams will field several drivers and they all need to work together on the circuit apart from their individual finish (much like some other sports like wrestling here you have your individual stats and team score to account for as well). Everyone has a part to play from sacrificing your position to put a teammate in a better passing lane to helping to box out an aggressive opponent as the race drags on towards the finish, again this is also compounded by the crew as well as a fit one (both mentally and physically) is essential to getting the most speed & time out of the vehicle and ensures keeping both him and the driver in the race.

So it's more than just a sport, it's a team sport at that.
Actually that answers both snippets about I took, but see stins many post regarding endurance.

Go ahead and hate, I don't care (I prefer F1 for sport racing, they turn both right & left for one), but you've been given one reason here in this post, and many, many more in the posts that preceded this one. Some people like speed, some like crashes, some both. Nascar may not be your cup of tea, but don't tell me you've never watch some form of racing on foot, vehicle, land, sea or air and tell you've never rooted for someone to come in first or been captivated by a really, really fast performance car before.

[QBYattackmen15]

just because at the end of playing a sport your not sweating and super exhausted after doing something, it doesnt rule it out fo being a sport. someone (stupidly) said golf was not a sport. Do you understand how much concentration you need to play that? or how much your muscles must be developed to have a consistent, strong swing. you need muscle memory. what other sport do you need muscle memory for? oh yeah lacrosse. and some poeple say if you get paid to do it its a sport, thisis somewhat a true but not always. but i some poeple on here are sor of being stubborn, im starting to see that Mods are the only ones on here with an open mind to what a sport is. but MOST others(not everyone) is being very ignorant and stubborn. you dont NEED physical Prowess to play a sport and a sport isnt defined by which their players need physical prowess. so everyone quit being little babies by being stubborn and ignorant saying golf, chess, and Nascar isnt a sport. it is. your just being unreasonable and not thinking logically.

and to some people syaing somehtings "barely a sport", thiers no such thing. Its a sport or its not. Chess is a sport,Golf is a sport, NASCAR is a sport.