NLL nets

[Lacrosseology-1994]

I have an interesting thread I need to bring up and of course, I welcome any answers and comments to this. It's regarding the NLL nets and why they don't have those small metal pegs that hold them in place just like NHL hockey nets.

I'm bringing this up because right when I first starting watching the NLL since its inaugural season, I've noticed that the net sometimes gets bumped into alot by the goalie and players and as a result, gets dislodged. If the ball goes into the net WHILE the net is dislodged, the goal still counts. I totally disagree with this. When the ball goes in, the net should be completely aligned with the goal line. A goal SHOULD NOT count if the net is dislodged while the ball goes in..... sorry.

They should have those little pegs like they have in the NHL nets that keep them secure. Any hockey fan like myself knows that a goal is disallowed if the puck goes into the net while its off its moorings.

But.... ANYWAY..... those are my views on this and as mentioned above, I welcome any answers as to why the NLL hasn't put those little pegs in the net posts yet. That really is a great idea because it'll keep the nets secure and won't go flying around when goals are scored.

[OldPtboBoy]

Since there are no offensive players allowed inside the goalies crease the net is displaced a majority of the time by the defensive team. Some goalies have even used it as a defensive tactic from time to time. Not allowing goals after a goalie or defensive player knocked the net off the goal line would punnish the offense.

[laxcanada]

the NHL doesnt use metal pegs, theyre hard rubber becasue if they were metal they wouldnt dislodge if a player ran into the net thus getting injured

the nets dont movre much in games anyways, they have flat ground bars to help keep them stable

[Chamoo]

The reason they don't put pegs in the nets is because there are no holes for the pegs to go into in the carpet, as well as the ice under the carpet. If they could do it, I'm sure they would love to, however, it just isn't possible. There aren't any holes to put them in, and it would be too difficult to make the carpet line up the holes in the carpet with the holes in the ice.

It is the goalies responsibility to keep the net in place. If he knocks the net off, and the ball goes in, then the goal counts. If an opposing teams player knocks the net off, and the ball goes in (which is possible, since any offensive player can go in the crease, just not with the ball, as long as he doesn't touch the goaltender), the goal would not count.

[PCO6]

the nets dont movre much in games anyways, they have flat ground bars to help keep them stable That's correct. The flat bar is about 4" wide by 5/8" thick so they are very heavy. They are also flat vs. round so there is no chance of a ball hitting the ground, or base, bar and bouncing out (goal or no goal?).

[Lacrosseology-1994]

Ok folks! Thanks for all your help on that! :agree:

[Stonewall35]

You have to think of it in these terms:

- Even though the net is moved, the plane of the goal does not move.

- If (in the referee's opinion) the ball would have crossed the plane of the goal when the net has been moved, the goal shall count.

[ChiefsLacrosse1]

You have to think of it in these terms:

- Even though the net is moved, the plane of the goal does not move.

- If (in the referee's opinion) the ball would have crossed the plane of the goal when the net has been moved, the goal shall count.

I was just kind of wondering this. Say the goalie knocks the net off, but the offensive player manages to get the ball past the goalie. To be an official goal, does the ball need to go in the new where it ended up, or where it normally would be, across the goal line?

[Lacrosseology-1994]

You gotta consider too that the goalie must keep the net on the line at all times. Those metal bars aren't as heavy as they look. I have an idea! Why not use special adhesives that glue the posts to the carpet? That way, there's no way that the posts can get loose, and at the end of the game, they can simply be taken off again. I think it's a good idea because I can't stand seeing the net get jarred loose sometimes just because some players and goalies can't be responsible enough to keep the net in place.

[Stonewall35]

I was just kind of wondering this. Say the goalie knocks the net off, but the offensive player manages to get the ball past the goalie. To be an official goal, does the ball need to go in the new where it ended up, or where it normally would be, across the goal line?

The whole ball would have to cross the plane where the net would be had it not been dislodged. Basically where the net would normally be at completely across the goal line.

[Stonewall35]

You gotta consider too that the goalie must keep the net on the line at all times. Those metal bars aren't as heavy as they look. I have an idea! Why not use special adhesives that glue the posts to the carpet? That way, there's no way that the posts can get loose, and at the end of the game, they can simply be taken off again. I think it's a good idea because I can't stand seeing the net get jarred loose sometimes just because some players and goalies can't be responsible enough to keep the net in place.

That is a bad idea. Goalies themselves would likely get hurt due to players diving into the crease right through him to try and score. You would end up with some liability issues in this case.

[Chamoo]

That is a bad idea. Goalies themselves would likely get hurt due to players diving into the crease right through him to try and score. You would end up with some liability issues in this case.

On top of that, I don't understand how you could glue the net to the carpet, then, unglue it? Doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.

Now, maybe light velcro attached to the carpet and the bottom of the net could work? Nothing strong enough to keep the net there if 200lb players came crashing into it, but just strong enough that the goalie can lean on the post without worrying about it moving.