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m.o.b.03
01-14-2008, 09:36 PM
Predictions for 08 whos goin top 3 for each side of division 1.

gjjjjt
01-15-2008, 10:56 AM
As I See It (just my opinion) from top to bottom:

Patriot Conference
CBC
Lafayette
Kirkwood
SLUH
Lindbergh
Chaminade
PW South

Independence
Rockhurst
MICDS
PW West
Hickman/PW Central/DeSmet toss up
Vianney

If Anyone is interested...

National
Clayton
Wentzville
Pembroke Hill
Rockbridge
Eureka
Ft. Zumwalt
Webster

American
Fox
PW North
Ladue / Springfield / Hazelwood toss up
Rockwood
Republic

m.o.b.03
01-15-2008, 03:46 PM
i was acutally thinkin
independence
-p central
-p west
-MICDS
-Desmet
-Hickman
-Vianney

and for Patriot
-lafayette
-CBC
-and then the rest the same

fenderstrat3578
01-15-2008, 05:10 PM
Independence:

1. MICDS/Rockhurst
2. Loser of previous
3. P. west
4. SLUH

Patriot:

1. CBC
2. DeSmet
3. Kirkwood
4. Lafayette


as for smaller programs:

American:
1. Ladue
2. springfield
3. fox/p. north

National:
not sure of order but maybe Clayton, Pembroke, and Webster

m.o.b.03
01-15-2008, 06:29 PM
hmm guess well just have to prove ourselves but anyways whose top 3 lsms and top 5 attack

Dashlock
01-15-2008, 06:38 PM
p west will top the independence conference (and possibly the state)

Top attack are Matt shenk, Tyler Trigg, JD Stumpf, Possibly Macmahill. throw up some names those are just my opinion

patslax29
01-15-2008, 09:05 PM
Top middies:
Mike G. from P.West
Ryan M. from Laff.
Chris B. from Chaminade


Throw up other names if you have any others

Dashlock
01-15-2008, 09:55 PM
Andy Boyd. I dont know about Chris Bandi. He's pretty good but i dont see him as being a top middie. And Jarvis will be doing work in Div. B

m.o.b.03
01-15-2008, 10:37 PM
yeah everybodys gotta feel bad for old jarvis, but for top

-attack: schenk, trigg, and stumpf
-midis- twool, jarvis, grosz, and boyd

but besides that it doesnt matter because theres no dpole that can stop schenk

patslax29
01-16-2008, 05:53 PM
Schenk is fast and good with his left hand. Just take away the left hand. He's too reluctant to go right

m.o.b.03
01-16-2008, 09:01 PM
nimrod i believe he has improved greatly, especially when he has a faceoff midi line that can get him the ball real quick

fenderstrat3578
01-16-2008, 09:24 PM
i guaruntee that there are longpoles in the state who can and will stop schenk, despite how good he is.

i dont know if i agree with West topping the independence, rock and micds are both returning solid programs, and SLUH's defense will be extremely good.

who is stumpf?

cdslax
01-16-2008, 09:24 PM
brendan lyss from MICDS is a really good attack if not one of the best in the state

m.o.b.03
01-16-2008, 11:20 PM
ive seen rock this summer and they are not exactly what they used to be, and ive never heard of lyss

Dashlock
01-17-2008, 04:48 PM
JD Stumpf is an attackman from lafayette.

roadlax
01-18-2008, 10:05 AM
I have been playing indoor against rock and can assure you they are weak.st louis will have a field day against them. not one really good individual and they are not a team

fenderstrat3578
01-18-2008, 02:49 PM
ive seen rock this summer and they are not exactly what they used to be, and ive never heard of lyss

he was #1 on micds last year, and was one of the best attackmen in the state, and will be up there this year as well. He was the motor for MICDS's attack

hawkslax9
01-19-2008, 10:50 AM
anyone have any thought on sleeper teams and players. on both divisions

Dashlock
01-20-2008, 01:55 PM
what about Goalies?

m.o.b.03
01-21-2008, 11:35 AM
geoff from cbc, and thats about it prey and that one from kirkwood were the best but now theres not much skill left

Dashlock
01-21-2008, 12:00 PM
potter from MICDS is pretty good and Mike Schenk from Central

m.o.b.03
01-22-2008, 04:09 PM
whos the dirtiest (as in cheapshots) player in stl

patslax29
01-23-2008, 08:49 PM
It's gotta be Ashlock haha. Honestly I think there wont be too much dirty play now that the divisions are split. I will warn that P. South is gonna grab a couple first year seniors from the football and basketball team. The basketball kids are probably gonna play middie but the football guy is a meat head. I'll apologize ahead of time for him. About Schenk, I'm not doubting his abilities, I've seen it firsthand. I'm just saying he's more comfortable in his left. He does have good speed too. On the Goalies, Dombek, Potter, and Ashlock has his days.

Lax'N'Roll
01-23-2008, 08:52 PM
It's gotta be Ashlock haha. Honestly I think there wont be too much dirty play now that the divisions are split. I will warn that P. South is gonna grab a couple first year seniors from the football and basketball team. The basketball kids are probably gonna play middie but the football guy is a meat head. I'll apologize ahead of time for him. About Schenk, I'm not doubting his abilities, I've seen it firsthand. I'm just saying he's more comfortable in his left. He does have good speed too. On the Goalies, Dombek, Potter, and Ashlock has his days.

you have first year seniors, ouch that is gonna hurt

bvalley33
01-23-2008, 09:45 PM
well first off i donno which rock team roadlax or m.o.b is playing/talking about cus i play against rockhurst every week in indoor and they definitely will be able to field a good team... when their goalie is at indoor he looks pretty good...midfield they have siglar who i believe started for them last year and has a ridiculous shot... fryer returning starter at attack who i think scored 4 goals in the state championship game and had over 40 goals last year...some kid named mapel who is a complete athlete...and a bunch of other quick middies...not sure about their defense but dont be so quick to write off rock this year... they will be good again

m.o.b.03
01-23-2008, 10:09 PM
were not saying anythings an automatic win, except vianney and chaminade, but its gonna be a good year

cdslax
01-23-2008, 10:40 PM
lol the last comment.......chaminade wont be too bad this year. They will have a couple of kids with alot of experience.

patslax29
01-24-2008, 03:30 PM
Yeah the first year seniors will be pretty bad at the begging, but a couple have to basic principles of lacrosse from either going to the captains practices or from playing basketball.

m.o.b.03
01-24-2008, 09:20 PM
oh well so who do you think has the best long stick midi?

ConanLax
01-24-2008, 10:28 PM
That sick Lafayette lsm? I remember watching him playing during summer samurai @ qc. Forgot his name though

m.o.b.03
01-24-2008, 10:49 PM
i think its zach, he moved down to base over summer

ConanLax
01-25-2008, 05:31 PM
Oh he was sick, fast good stick skills


Then I guess maybe Keegan drews? ground ball machine for central.

SLLax07
01-25-2008, 09:36 PM
Hey, I'm associated with the Southlake, Texas team, and this season we are having a quick 3-team round robin in Tulsa. Southlake JV, Tulsa, and Springfield. What can anyone tell me about the Springfield and Tulsa teams? I know its hard to match up teams from different states, but I was curious about what anyone knows about these two non-Texas teams. The Tulsa Team is travelling down to Southlake for our Round-Up tourney this weekend. Thanx for your help in advance.

m.o.b.03
01-26-2008, 12:45 PM
um...ive never heard of tulsa but springfields not forreal a very good team in my opinion but yeah so when does everyones conditioning start?

gjjjjt
01-27-2008, 02:51 PM
Hey SLLax07,

I schedule the games for Springfield. We are looking forward to the games at Tulsa. Springfield made the state playoffs 2 years ago and played pretty well versus a good Parkway South team in that year's first round. Springfield had 15 seniors graduate from that team and it showed last season as only two part time starters returned in 2007. More than half the team never played lacrosse before last season and we only had 3 seniors and 3 juniors. In 2008, we are hoping that a year of experience will equate to a winning season. We are still low on seniors with only 3 this year, but we are heavy in juniors with around 18. Our games on April 1 vs Tulsa and Southlake will be our first competition of the season, so we will probably be taking a look at all of our roster to see where everyone belongs and giving new guys some playing time as well. We hope to give you a good game. How is SL Texas this year?

I think we can compete for a playoff spot in Missouri Division II if we stay healthy. Our top JV scorer from 2 years ago was injured almost half of last year, but was still the 3rd leading scorer on the team. We also lost another attack in the 2nd game of the season with a concussion, so we were very thin all year. M.O.B.03 is right about not a very good team last season, but we should be much better in 2008 and could possibly win Div II and compete well against some Div I teams in 2009. We have a difficult time getting the sport of Lacrosse going in SW Missouri, but I don't think anyone should count us out as we made the playoffs in 2006 in only our 2nd year as a varsity team.

Dashlock
01-27-2008, 05:03 PM
We' already started a few weeks ago

m.o.b.03
01-27-2008, 07:35 PM
captains practices dont count but why are we talking to eachtoher so chill the whole point is to talk stuff, its what makes the game go by, lets start off by calling the person who made the divisions a retard...they put vianney and chaminade in there i mean come on when was the last time vianney won

SLLax07
01-27-2008, 09:44 PM
Our games on April 1 vs Tulsa and Southlake will be our first competition of the season, so we will probably be taking a look at all of our roster to see where everyone belongs and giving new guys some playing time as well. We hope to give you a good game. How is SL Texas this year?

We are a true JV team, we do not have any seniors on our squad an only one junior. The Program itself is well positioned this year and for the future. The coach of our DI program is Josh Pico, starting long stick on Hopkins '05 Championship team. All of our seniors are on DI, and almost all our juniors. That being said, our JV team has put together a very tough schedule, where we play all of the DI JV's, a few of the DIII teams, and one DII team. We need to play as many games, and as many against tough opponents, as we can. We look forward to some good games in Tulsa.

We have asked Coach Reidy from Tulsa to move games up a few hours. He should be contacting you soon.

flight92689
01-27-2008, 10:50 PM
one of them is gonna win at least one game give em a break

MOLax08
01-27-2008, 11:50 PM
other attackman to watch

Peterson-CBC
Hof - SLUH
McKibben - Lafayette
Metz - DeSmet

drnkndakoolaid
01-28-2008, 08:53 AM
captains practices dont count but why are we talking to eachtoher so chill the whole point is to talk stuff, its what makes the game go by, lets start off by calling the person who made the divisions a retard...they put vianney and chaminade in there i mean come on when was the last time vianney won

Teams select which division to be in. They were not placed.

gjjjjt
01-28-2008, 04:43 PM
We have asked Coach Reidy from Tulsa to move games up a few hours. He should be contacting you soon.

Coach Reidy told me he couldn't get the field until noon. I asked about starting in the morning as we are only 2-1/2 hours from Tulsa.

email me at gtucker@idf.com if you want to exchange any more info off th board

patslax29
01-28-2008, 06:30 PM
We have been conditioning for 2 months now. At least we will be in good shape this year, even if we dont have too much talent this year.

MOLax08
01-28-2008, 08:45 PM
http://westsidelax.com/

just check it out you will be surprised

m.o.b.03
01-28-2008, 09:07 PM
yeah its pretty much gonna be them theres not really a team that has a strong spot on each apsect of the game

from what i see

sluhs midis are strong
lafayette has good d and mckibben and stumpf
pwest has boyd, grosz, and the other homie
hickman has a goalie
micds has that levi and will
not hearingn or seeing too good things bout rockhurst but theres no certainty
CBC has peterson
desmet has julius? and a few other good ppl
p centrals d is sick + schenk + faceoff light on midis

fenderstrat3578
01-29-2008, 04:21 PM
actually sluh's middies are generally weak, their D is their focal point
micds has more than just mccormick and levi-lyss waterbury harbison rapp etc
peterson is pretty good, but cocking will probably be running the show for CBC
p central has schenk and thats about it

ConanLax
01-29-2008, 05:36 PM
actually sluh's middies are generally weak, their D is their focal point
micds has more than just mccormick and levi-lyss waterbury harbison rapp etc
peterson is pretty good, but cocking will probably be running the show for CBC
p central has schenk and thats about it

Returning all starting defense. Defense will be strong also.

Lax'N'Roll
01-29-2008, 06:41 PM
he goes to micds but played jv last year

m.o.b.03
01-29-2008, 07:30 PM
west side lax has predictions for next year up + preseason stuff from coaches

m.o.b.03
01-29-2008, 09:57 PM
who do u feel will be state/all americans for this year
Attack
-schenk
-trigg
-lyss
-Mckibben
-Stumpf
-metz
mid-fielders
-grosz
-boyd
-wool
-sigfried
-jarvis
-McCormic
LSM
-Zach(lafayette)
-Drews
-Goodfellow
Defense
-Gilman
-obrien
-one of the three sluh goof troopers
-birner
Goalies
-Geoff(CBC)
-Ashlock
-Schenk, mike
-hurst

WOOfsLax08
01-30-2008, 01:56 PM
Attack
-Drew Peterson
-Matt Schenck
-Brendan Lyss
Mid
-Grosz
-Boyd
-MacMahill
-Cocking
-Rapp
-Jarvis
Defense
-Austin Birner
-Stumpf
-Up for grabs
Goalies
-Dombeck
-Schenk
-Hurst

NDStweezer17
01-30-2008, 02:17 PM
Attack
-Schenk
-McMahill...is he playing midi???
-Peterson
Midfield
-Grosz
-Boyd
-Cocking
-Jarvis
Defense
-Birner
-
-
Goalies
-Dombeck
-Hurst

patslax29
01-30-2008, 08:53 PM
yo m.o.b chill dude. start talkin stuff when you actually know whats up. This is preseason bro, it can be anybody this year. Sluh will have some good D this year. Central will hae a good D too, but theres no straight answer to who's gonna be all state. At the end it's who puts up the best stats.

ConanLax
01-30-2008, 09:02 PM
yo m.o.b chill dude. start talkin stuff when you actually know whats up. This is preseason bro, it can be anybody this year. Sluh will have some good D this year. Central will hae a good D too, but theres no straight answer to who's gonna be all state. At the end it's who puts up the best stats.

Lol hes just voicing his opinion same as a lot of other people.

fenderstrat3578
01-30-2008, 09:24 PM
he goes to micds but played jv last year

you must have me confused with somebody else, and no i am not a dad

and actually mob, SLUH's D WILL be their strongest part, considering that they return all of their poles who were decent last year. They return Hof and Seigfried on offense, but their middies are usually not "top of the line".

ps: mob, its fine for you to try to hype parkway central up as much as you can, but don't get mad at other people when they disagree with you. chill

gjjjjt
01-31-2008, 10:12 AM
Hey Guys,

I am a dad, but I love the game and enjoy seeing what others have to say about the sport and the league. Being in Springfield is tough for staying in the loop of what is going on.

There was a comment that Springfield is not a good team. Well, we weren't last season, but we had a pretty good team in 2006. How good a team "was" can be easily determined through history. How good a team will be will most likely also be predicted by history. Some teams will be good almost every year primarily because they have established programs that continue to replentish what they lose from year to year. Other programs like Springfield still struggle to get the community to accept the sport. We still have football coaches prohibiting their players from playing lacrosse because they think they will get hurt. I find that amusing thinking Goliath is afraid to face David for fear of being hurt, and our team, as probably most, is definitely a team full of Davids.

With that said, Springfield has a lot to prove after a poor showing last season. However, much of last season's varsity had players who never played the game before last season. We were truly a JV or developmental team playing a varsity schedule. No one can predict how one year of experience can translate into continued good or bad. Parkway West was 1 - 15 in 2006. Last season they made the playoffs. I expect them to be a playoff team in Division I this year. Springfield was 4 - 10 in 2005, 12 - 4 and in the playoffs in 2006, and 2 - 12 in 2007. Westsidelax predicted Springfield to finish 3rd in their conference in 2007 above Pembroke Hill and Columbia Rockbridge. That didn't happen. It was probably based on the previous year's showing. In this year's WSL, Springfield is picked to finish below Hazelwood in their conference. Springfield had 2 wins last season while Hazelwood had none. Hazelwood may very well finish above Springfield, but what basis was used to predict a team that had no wins to finish this season above a team that had 2?

Springfield should be strongest on offense with the most experienced players there. Last year's defense that featured the most 1st year players need to prove themselves this year. Our goalies will be good depending on how good the defense has improved. I believe Springfield can be a playoff team this year and could challenge for the Division II title. I think many other teams believe the same thing. It will be fun and interesting to see what happens.

Those of you dissing Rockhurst should watch out. They may not be as good as years past, but I still anticipate they will bring a very competitive team anywhere they go.

PTH
01-31-2008, 05:55 PM
who is micds' new coach?

ConanLax
01-31-2008, 06:09 PM
John Tesigni

Bruce Dickenson
01-31-2008, 09:28 PM
You guys crack all crack me up, Rockhurst has lost like 4 games in the state of missouri in last three years and now all of sudden they are going to be terrible, how is that going to happen? I think the last time the Rock played Parkway West the score was like 24-1.

fenderstrat3578
01-31-2008, 11:05 PM
did you really just call rockhurst "The Rock"?

gjjjjt
02-01-2008, 08:57 AM
Teams select which division to be in. They were not placed.

Teams were allowed to pick which Division they wanted to play in. Other factors also played in placing teams in the Divisions. Catholic schools have traditionally played each other so Vianney, Chaminade, CBC, MICDS and SLUH would need to be in the same Division to still allow for that rivalry. Some teams had good records last season but opted to play in Div II (e.g., Fox and Pembroke Hill). Some teams were struggling like Parkway South at the end of last season just to keep a team on the field and maybe they should have opted for a year at Div II.

The system was set up to hopefully make for more competitive games and also added a second state championship for Div II teams to shoot for. It is disheartening for some teams to always be looking at the top 5 or 6 teams and think they may never get to that level or get a chance to be in a playoff game. Teams who have never played against each other before are now required to play. Teams who did not travel before are now required to travel. There is a lot of good that comes out of this restructuring.
Coaches can vote on which division they wish to play in on a season to season basis. Some successful teams, like Pembroke Hill, lost a lot of players from their playoff team in 2007, so they opted to play in Div II. Fox had a very successful season last year but also opted to play in Div II. With 28 teams in the MSLA, an even split of 14 each made best sense to create a balanced scheduling of games. Of course some teams may be better served to play in one division or the other, but allowing for each team to present their arguments as to where they want to be will hopefully find each team where they should be and not to complain about it. Each season, the divisions can be reshuffled to allow Div II teams to move up if they are ready and for Div I teams to move down if they are not competitive in Div I. Just because a team is successful one year doesn't mean they will continue that success. Parkway West, 1-15 in 2006; in the playoffs in 2007. Springfield in the playoffs in 2006; near the basement in 2007.

patslax29
02-01-2008, 10:21 AM
The South players chose to go DI. We can win some games this year but we will have to fight. We moved a couple of kids around to somewhere where they will fit in better for the team.

roadlax
02-01-2008, 10:33 AM
like i said Rockhust is nowhere near former level. You guys over in St Louis are right not to mention one of there player for all state or AA. On top of no skill they are not in shaep.

Madman lax
02-01-2008, 06:08 PM
What are you talking about?? surprised about what on west side lax? it's pretty cool they have someone from St. Louis on the site.

Madman lax
02-01-2008, 06:13 PM
again you guys are being totally clueless on total team talent... Rockhurst is going to hurt some poeple this year and who cares what is being said about their offseason indoor garbage. one player does not make a team sure you can rally around a player but they will not carry a team looking at this list you have no idea how many good players there will be trying out for their teams. You listed Peterson as the 1 cbc player, there will be 10 for sure from that team.

hawkslax9
02-01-2008, 11:32 PM
um...ive never heard of tulsa but springfields not forreal a very good team in my opinion but yeah so when does everyones conditioning start?

we have already started conditioning like almost a month ago

CoachFauss
02-01-2008, 11:38 PM
Teams were allowed to pick which Division they wanted to play in. Other factors also played in placing teams in the Divisions. Catholic schools have traditionally played each other so Vianney, Chaminade, CBC, MICDS and SLUH would need to be in the same Division to still allow for that rivalry.

MICDS is not a Catholic school. I think you meant to include DeSmet in that group.

pshwarriorlax17
02-02-2008, 01:45 PM
Hey gjjjjt, actually it's on a two year basis, and the only way that you can movie up is if you do well in division 2.

hawkslax9
02-02-2008, 02:35 PM
gjjjjt actually we at hazelwood actually had 1 win last season not none, but we had like all 2nd year players playin, we should be alot better and we have our old coach back who brought us to the state playoffs 3 seasons ago

in my opinion the division 2 title is up for grabs, i think in d 2 there are teams that are just bad and teams last year that had a bunch of young players that developed alot, it will be an interesting year to see what team will prove themselves worthy for a bump up to divison 1, who will be app state? who doesnt belong in divsion 1? what team in division 2 should be in division 1? all these questions i cant wait to find out. it will be a great season full of many surprises.

cmriocsdsse09
02-03-2008, 12:18 AM
That Helfant kid for MICDS is gonna be a stud this year, esp with Lyss backing him up

gjjjjt
02-04-2008, 11:20 AM
[QUOTE=hawkslax9;1443787]...we at hazelwood actually had 1 win last season not none, but we had like all 2nd year players playin, we should be alot better and we have our old coach back who brought us to the state playoffs 3 seasons ago
QUOTE]

Sorry about missing the win. It is difficult to predict who will be good or bad. We only have past history to predict next year and not many take into account what each team is losing to graduation and how the players that follow will continue the winning tradition or fall flat on their faces. DeSmet had a tough season last year, but I expect they will come back stronger this year. I don't have any info that can back that up, but my feelings are probably based on traditional DeSmet teams. I believe Springfield can compete for the playoffs in 2008, but until you can see two teams on the field against each other, you don't know how they will match up.

The every two years potential to change divisions is just a guideline for now. Teams in transition could be very good one year and bad the next. If Springfield does very well this year in Division II, it could warrent a move to Div I in 2009 because almost all of the roster would be returning. Hickman has virtually it's entire varsity roster returning this year from 2007. They should do well this season with that much returning experience and probably continued development. But in 2009, they may not be as good depending on how those following a big senior class will develop. I think for that reason, coaches are given the opportunity to vote on where they think their team should be and to present reasons why they should be considered for Div I or Div II. If some teams need two years to prove their "worthiness" to move to Div I, they may miss their best opportunity to be the most competitive before given a chance.

hurst022
02-04-2008, 07:47 PM
actually we got everyone back...plus some sophmores who will be really strong....the varsity will be basicly the same with some changes at defense and attack...plus some strong middies who are moving up from JV

gjjjjt
02-06-2008, 09:48 AM
Hey Hurst022,

Hickman should do ok in Div I this year. Since you did alright last season and you have virtually everyone returning that should translate to success this season.

If you read westsidelax, it appears that most teams have lost a few to many players from last season. That could have a devestating effect for smaller programs while the larger programs tend to just reload. We in Springfield don't have a roster with 60+ players like some do. We squeek by with 30 - 35 varsity + JV (last season we finished up with around 20 total after injuries and some players not showing up). We don't have try-outs. If you want to play and can pay the dues (and buy your own equipment and uniforms) you can play. It costs a first year player around $1000 to play their first year in Springfield. That drives a lot of potentially good athletes away. Our parents toss in a few extra dollars to help pay for some who cannot afford to play. We have a field donated to us by the Park Board to play, but since they don't maintain that field on a regular basis, we bring our own lawn mowers out on game days and some of the players cut the grass to get the field ready for game time. It may not be pretty (and those of you who have been down here to play would probably agree), but it's what we have to work with.

Good luck to everyone this season. We look forward to hosting all those who will venture the 170 - 200 miles to play in Springfield. And we appreciate those who will be our hosts in St. Louis and Tulsa this season.

ethslax12
02-06-2008, 01:59 PM
what is SLUH like? i think we are going to be playing them over our spring break. and who is the worst team in the state? because i think we might be playing them too. i dont really remember the name, but i might if i heard it. All our games are in St. Louis though

hurst022
02-06-2008, 04:15 PM
1000$$ thats insane...rockbridge is like 800 we are like 225....why do you charge so much??

gjjjjt
02-07-2008, 07:14 AM
1000$$ thats insane...rockbridge is like 800 we are like 225....why do you charge so much??

The $1000 includes what they pay for their uniforms, equipment and dues. Depending on what quality equipment, it could be a couple hundred less. Dues alone are in the mid 300's range. We are trying to get that figure down, but that would only happen if we can increase our roster number, thereby increasing the total income to the team. Operating costs are pretty much fixed, so if you get 60 people we can reduce the cost per player. With only 35 or so, we just about maximize what each has to pay to break even at the mid $300 range.

m.o.b.03
02-08-2008, 12:25 PM
ohp that sucks yeah central has that jv tourney which brings in a ton of money

ConanLax
02-08-2008, 03:32 PM
cbc has the freshman tourney which brings in alot of money also.

the ice box
02-12-2008, 10:49 AM
any body know how that brave team did that went down to texas?

ConanLax
02-12-2008, 05:43 PM
Anyone going to Kyle Harrisons Clinic at MICDS tonight?

m.o.b.03
02-13-2008, 11:16 PM
yeah i went it wasnt bad

middleton23
02-14-2008, 03:30 PM
Hey Guys,

Do any of you have teammates that are going to UW-Milwaukee next year? I'm the president/captain here and im trying to find all of the incoming freshmen. Talk to your teammates and let them know we have a team.

Jack Peterson

hawkslax9
02-15-2008, 06:27 PM
hey mob03 i was wonderin i knew some people on hazelwood went down there, but did they play and did they do good? just wonderin

m.o.b.03
02-18-2008, 12:40 PM
went where?

HawkletLax
02-18-2008, 11:14 PM
ya guys just stop with your preseason predictions...you really dont know what you are talking about, i really dont know much right now either. we will see at the end of the season, then we'll talk about all state, etc.

thedamnedfan
02-19-2008, 12:30 AM
How do you all feel about the split of Missouri and Kansas lacrosse?

ConanLax
02-19-2008, 12:44 PM
I feel that its a good thing that theres a split inbatween states now.

m.o.b.03
02-20-2008, 02:21 PM
the kansas teams just had some developing to do and they can do it alot better playing by themselves

fenderstrat3578
02-20-2008, 05:14 PM
wasn't it because missouri lax had to split with kansas teams to get picked up by MSHSAA?

patslax29
02-20-2008, 07:41 PM
The girls teams did. The guys are still club.

BIGDGOALIE
02-20-2008, 08:34 PM
with tryouts coming up this weekend and next week. good luck everyone on getting ready for season. hopefully no torn knees or bad legs for anyone out there.

ConanLax
02-25-2008, 12:53 PM
Parkway Preview in a week. Which Parkway School is the best: North? South? West? Central?

spenny
02-26-2008, 12:32 PM
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02-29-2008, 11:00 PM
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Dashlock
03-01-2008, 06:43 PM
so how was everyones 1st week of practice?

ethslax12
03-02-2008, 11:31 AM
what can you tell me about SLUH's team and Fort Zumwalt's team? we are playing them in a couple weeks

slevin20
03-02-2008, 01:07 PM
dont know nething about sluh but zumwalt has Jarvis but thats about it.

slevin20
03-02-2008, 05:09 PM
and for nebody wondering central won the parkway tourney. i would give second place to north.

hurst022
03-02-2008, 05:11 PM
what about west?? how did they do??

Dashlock
03-02-2008, 06:46 PM
sluh is traditionally a top St. Louis team and i doubt that this year is an exception. Zumwalt is a newer team but has alot of talent

ConanLax
03-03-2008, 01:25 PM
what about west?? how did they do??
They lost to north and central. However in the north game they played JV first half, so no offense to north, but I feel that if they played Varsity the whole game they would have won. In the central game they lost 7-3. However atleast one of thoes goals was due to a central midfielder forgeting to slide, or a dpole not going back to the hole.

LaffayetteLA><
03-03-2008, 10:02 PM
Good to see a MO thread on first page shows dedication. Hoping for a a great season. See y'all on the field

LAXAF
03-04-2008, 03:44 PM
They lost to north and central. However in the north game they played JV first half, so no offense to north, but I feel that if they played Varsity the whole game they would have won. In the central game they lost 7-3. However atleast one of thoes goals was due to a central midfielder forgeting to slide, or a dpole not going back to the hole.

Thats odd I thought everyone said West was going to dominate this year. I guess maybe not or they had some problems that I didnt hear about.

Any one else been having problems with practices? This weather is driving me crazy

Lax'N'Roll
03-04-2008, 04:16 PM
With this crappy weather which is preventing teams from practicing... the jamboree is gonna have some sloppy play

ConanLax
03-04-2008, 07:25 PM
Agreed big time, Supposed to be some decent weather tommorrow high 40's. So that should melt a lot of the snow that we got.

patslax29
03-05-2008, 09:21 AM
We've had alot of chalk talks. I think we are going to practice indoors today. Who is every ones first regular season game?

ConanLax
03-05-2008, 05:19 PM
Desmet Wednesday, Should be a really good game, what about you, whos south playing first?

patslax29
03-06-2008, 07:22 PM
MICDS tuesday. If we can hold the ball and settle it for a while it could be a good game, but its gonna be a tough home opener

oldno24
03-06-2008, 08:50 PM
Patslax, you should do well Tues because MICDS isn't showing up at your place until Wed...

drnkndakoolaid
03-07-2008, 08:30 AM
is the jamboree on today?

hurst022
03-07-2008, 10:19 AM
well hickmans trip to louisville got cancled...hows the weather in stl?

CoachFauss
03-07-2008, 10:12 PM
hows the weather in stl?

It's been cold here but we haven't had any new snow or rain since earlier this week.

Did the jamboree take place tonight? I know quite a few years ago they had to snow plow the fields but that was before the field turf was installed and they had the old carpet.

Games are supposed to start this week but I'm not sure how many fields will be able to handle games. Not a great start to the season.

ConanLax
03-07-2008, 10:55 PM
Jamboree is tommorrow. All day at the Busch Soccer Park

Eclipse
03-07-2008, 11:18 PM
The Jamboree occured tonight as well. It ran from 5:15 through around 10:00.

Linbergh, Lafayette, Clayton, Vianney, Rockwood Summit, Desmett, CBC, and Kirkwood all played games. Rockhurst was advised not to come because of the initial concern we may not play. The event was a solid success aside from the bitter weather.

HawkletLax
03-08-2008, 01:44 PM
do you guys know if any teams from stl/columbia area are coming down to kc for the jamboree at rockhurst? i cant remember how it all went last year...if i remember correctly creighton prep and some other teams came down too

hurst022
03-08-2008, 07:11 PM
hickman isnt i dont know about rockbridge...

rockstate2008
03-09-2008, 09:46 PM
Rockhurst's varsity beat Tulsa and Creighton Prep 15-0 and 16-0 today, 30 minute running game clock...They're out to prove some people wrong this year who have already written them off.

thedamnedfan
03-09-2008, 11:10 PM
Rockhurst deffinately has the most talent outside of St. Louis, I would say, like every other year, they are going to run a good team and get close... thought I wouldn't doubt it if CBC took it this year, I've been talking to a few people from there and some kids I play with now that used to play for CBC.



And just to let all of you seniors in St. Louis know, Rockhurst University in Kansas City, Missouri is a MCLA legitamite team, Great Rivers Lacrosse Conference, in the 2nd Division, for anyone looking to get a good education and play some lacrosse after high-school. *wink*

hurst022
03-10-2008, 02:45 PM
to bad tulsa and creighton suck.....we will see when they play some decent competition....i mean thats like saying watch out, rockhurst beat shawnee mission! its a joke

oldno24
03-10-2008, 03:53 PM
Hey, come on. Give Tulsa and Creighton Prep a little credit. Just because they were unranked and ranked 2,490th last year respectively, doesn't mean they're not any good this year...

Bruce Dickenson
03-10-2008, 07:50 PM
or like saying Rockhurst beating either one of the Columbia teams. Unitil CBC loses I am sure they are the team to beat.

rockstate2008
03-10-2008, 08:27 PM
Go to the game on wednesday, you all will be quite surprised with the Rockhurst squad this year. CBC vs. Rockhurst on wednesday @ CBC.

patslax29
03-11-2008, 07:12 AM
I got my own game to play, no offense, but I want the local team to win

hurst022
03-11-2008, 01:56 PM
im not doubting rock wil be a good squad but i have a feeling they will be playing closer games this year.

thedamnedfan
03-11-2008, 10:34 PM
hurst022, if you could PM me where I could see your guys' scheduel that would be cool, I wouldnt mind coming out and supporting or little brother school.

CoachFauss
03-12-2008, 08:57 PM
Any results from MO today? There were 6 games on the schedule.

Ladue beat Parkway North 5-4

CoachFauss
03-12-2008, 09:05 PM
Any results from MO today? There were 6 games on the schedule.

Ladue beat Parkway North 5-4

It looks like CBC beat Rockhurst 8-7. Anyone there to see it? Was it close the entire time or did someone make a late run?

CoachFauss
03-12-2008, 10:13 PM
It looks like CBC beat Rockhurst 8-7. Anyone there to see it? Was it close the entire time or did someone make a late run?

Now it's being reported that Rockhurst won 14-7 and that they had a comfortable lead throughout. Was anyone there?

Some other scores being reported:

MICDS 13, Parkway South 0 (anyone know who was in goal for MICDS?)
Clayton 7, Webster Groves 5
Lafayette 12, Kirkwood 7

pshwarriorlax17
03-12-2008, 10:17 PM
Rockhurst controlled the game for the most part. They were winning by 5 to 7 from the second quarter on basically. Rockhurst is definetly a lot better than most think they are. CBCs goalie is ridiculous.

Potter played goal im pretty sure for MICDS.

fenderstrat3578
03-12-2008, 10:35 PM
I saw the Rockhurst v CBC game. CBC just didn't look ready to play a big game, and I have not seen their goalie before, but he let in some easily saveable shots. Rock looked pretty good, but they are by no means a "superpower" anymore, and are back to being a beatable team. CBC didn't look very good and Rock looked solid.

Lax'N'Roll
03-13-2008, 08:50 PM
I went... CBC is only going as far as their defense take them... they had some late slids, and towards the end of the game one of the captains had what looked like a serious knee injury... Rock played some pretty agressive D, and just seemed like they were a notch above CBC... I expect other teams to play them closer considering Rockhurst had great weather when Stl teams had snow to deal with... "The Rock" as you call them is in for a rude awakening if you ask me

fenderstrat3578
03-13-2008, 09:18 PM
Agreed Lax'N'Roll

I think rock will find success early, but I wouldn't count on them being a juggernaut. I think they are in for a rude awakening as well, they sure are due for one (despite the state championship last year).

Bruce Dickenson
03-13-2008, 09:34 PM
Who exactly is the "Rock" going to get a rude awakening from? Let's see the Parkway District as a whole is 0 forever against Rockhurst, ditto Kirkwood, Vianney and most of the other public schools. I'm pretty sure that the only people who could really say anything are MICDS and Desmet. When all is said and done the final four will be MICDS, Rockhurst, CBC and probably Desmet.

Dashlock
03-17-2008, 07:20 PM
Any big news? Upsets? Lindbergh plays CBC tomorrow night

billfurman
03-17-2008, 07:53 PM
Who exactly is the "Rock" going to get a rude awakening from? Let's see the Parkway District as a whole is 0 forever against Rockhurst, ditto Kirkwood, Vianney and most of the other public schools. I'm pretty sure that the only people who could really say anything are MICDS and Desmet. When all is said and done the final four will be MICDS, Rockhurst, CBC and probably Desmet.

The "Rock" received a rude awakening from Brophy College Prep (Phoenix, AZ) in the Jesuit Classic over the weekend. The final was 11 - 7, but should have been 20 - 7. Brophy played one of its sloppiest games of the year.

patslax29
03-17-2008, 09:42 PM
Haha ouch. So any of the Seniors on here know where they are going to play next year?

Bruce Dickenson
03-17-2008, 10:07 PM
The "Rock" received a rude awakening from Brophy College Prep (Phoenix, AZ) in the Jesuit Classic over the weekend. The final was 11 - 7, but should have been 20 - 7. Brophy played one of its sloppiest games of the year.

Well last time I checked Brophy does not play in Missouri, I think they play in Arizona. Pretty sure Rockhurst used there back up goalie in the first half and isn't the Brophy goalie playing at Hopkins next year? Maybe it should have been 20-7 but it wasn't.

HawkletLax
03-18-2008, 06:48 PM
teams usually play sloppy for one reason...they are playing a good defensive team. sloppy is just an excuse

kinda random but:
how has micds and desmet looked this year?

rockstate2008
03-19-2008, 12:18 PM
The "Rock" received a rude awakening from Brophy College Prep (Phoenix, AZ) in the Jesuit Classic over the weekend. The final was 11 - 7, but should have been 20 - 7. Brophy played one of its sloppiest games of the year.

Brophy is a great team. They ran Arizona last year. Their goalie is going to Hopkins. And their best attack man is going to Duke. Before you start attacking Rockhurst, you must realize Brophy is a very solid team. They lost to Georgetown Prep 7-5. Saying that Rockhurst recieved a "rude awakening" from Brophy is very "iffy". To write them off and say that they should have lost 20-7 is just ludicrous. Get a clue.

patslax29
03-21-2008, 11:45 AM
Desmett is still a good team, they have a decent attack line, but their D is new and a little sloppy. I know we lost to them but a team with alot of people and some talent play them, Desmett will have a hard time keeping up with that. The real problem for us was the goalie, our attack shot high on him all day so we were baisically playing catch with him. He was still fast, but he is good with inside shots, take the farther out bounce shots on him.

laxmonster54
03-22-2008, 04:02 PM
How is Parkway West looking this year?
Anyone play them or go there?

hurst022
03-22-2008, 08:36 PM
they will be good, their attack line is real solid and they have the best face off middie in the state hands down....

patslax29
03-23-2008, 12:59 PM
He uses his shoulders and is at a slight disadvantage. He goes down on one knee and is a step behind against the faceoff guys that have "proper" form. Also, if he cannot get a clean sweep or clamp off you, it can give your guys a chance to stop a fast break and make it a 50-50 ground ball.

dwyer28
03-26-2008, 02:46 AM
im from TN so bear with me here, my team beat CBC and Lindbergh two weeks ago, are these the best teams in the state?

LaxBills08
03-26-2008, 10:27 AM
CBC and I assume De Smet had all their games cancelled in Florida because they were club teams and they aren't allowed to play school sanctioned teams. That sucks to go all the way down there and then be told that.

LAXAF
03-26-2008, 06:06 PM
CBC won state last year but lost a bunch of seniors and its really debatable if they are back to what they were last year. We don't know until the season goes on more. And Lindbergh is in now way one of the best teams in the state. No offense to them

dwyer28
03-26-2008, 11:49 PM
CBC has one of the nicest facilities ive ever been to. the place could be like a small div 2 or 3 school

laxmonster54
03-27-2008, 12:44 PM
IMO I think Sluh is better then CBC this year.

patslax29
03-27-2008, 08:41 PM
That could be a close game. CBC has the talent this year, and that first opener against Rockhurst would end the same for any team around here.

LaxBills08
03-28-2008, 01:16 AM
Making assumptions is risky.

rockstate2008
03-28-2008, 06:19 AM
you should see the facilities at Rockhurst..and to you again, Rockhurst is one of the strongest teams in the state if not the strongest. They traveled to the Jesuit Classic in Washington D.C. two weeks ago. This weekend they travel to Dallas to take on Dallas Jesuit, Dallas Episcopal, and New Trier (IL). Later in the season they will travel to Culver Indiana to take on more stiff competition in Culver Academy, Loyola Academy, and Louisville Trinity. There's a reason why nobody in the state but Rockhurst has a schedule like this.

cdslax
03-28-2008, 03:33 PM
Rockhurst also has more boys then any other high school in the state so it would make sense that they would be one of the top teams in the state. Some schools dont even have enough boys to make a jv and varsity. If rockhurst was not one of the best teams in the state it would be sad because of the selection of boys that they have. If other schools in MO had that many boys to choose from then rockhurst would have alot more competition in MO. Rockhurst can barely beat schools with not even half as many boys as they have.

Lax'N'Roll
03-28-2008, 04:44 PM
Rockhursts facilities are not that nice... its just big... IMO Cbc has the nicest facilities followed closely by Sluh

hurst022
03-29-2008, 11:45 AM
you should see the facilities at Rockhurst..and to you again, Rockhurst is one of the strongest teams in the state if not the strongest. They traveled to the Jesuit Classic in Washington D.C. two weeks ago. This weekend they travel to Dallas to take on Dallas Jesuit, Dallas Episcopal, and New Trier (IL). Later in the season they will travel to Culver Indiana to take on more stiff competition in Culver Academy, Loyola Academy, and Louisville Trinity. There's a reason why nobody in the state but Rockhurst has a schedule like this.


hey bro theres another huge reason i think you forgot to mention.....$$$$$$

laxdefense5
03-29-2008, 06:03 PM
DeSmet has been going to the tournament in DC for over 5 years and this is the first year they havent gone. Also they went to the tournament in Culver last year too

Red
03-29-2008, 07:05 PM
My team from illinois played CBC, Lafayette, and Sluh in a tourney this week. I gota say, they were pretty good.

ethslax12
03-29-2008, 07:17 PM
we just played SLUH today, lost 12-13, real close game throughout though

laxmonster54
03-30-2008, 12:41 PM
we just played SLUH today, lost 12-13, real close game throughout though
Who Do you play for?

ethslax12
03-30-2008, 08:23 PM
^^
Evanston Township High School, from Illinois

rockstate2008
03-30-2008, 10:29 PM
Just because Rockhurst has a larger selection of men than any other school doesn't mean the best athletes come out. If Rockhurst's best athletes played lacrosse, it wouldn't even be fair for other teams in the state. Rockhurst only cuts about five guys every year. So in response, numbers do not matter, it's about quality of the athletes. Hold off on the biased comments please.

rockstate2008
03-30-2008, 10:32 PM
hey bro theres another huge reason i think you forgot to mention.....$$$$$$

Hurst, once again you struggle to obtain the facts. The parents of Rockhurst's lacrosse players pay for all of the trips. The school only pays for in-state travel to St. Louis. And you're trying to say that SLUH, DeSmett, MICDS, etc. couldn't afford trips like these? News flash, they could.

ConanLax
03-31-2008, 01:28 PM
Yes but then there are some teams with 20 boys on a varsity team compared to Rockhurst's 100 boys that try out.

hurst022
03-31-2008, 08:23 PM
Hurst, once again you struggle to obtain the facts. The parents of Rockhurst's lacrosse players pay for all of the trips. The school only pays for in-state travel to St. Louis. And you're trying to say that SLUH, DeSmett, MICDS, etc. couldn't afford trips like these? News flash, they could.


they can and they do im not saying its a bad thing, we take a trip to KY every year but it got snowed out, im just saying you have more opportunity because of your reputation ( meaning good teams will play you) and your parents more likely then not, have fat pocketbooks....its just how it is...dont worry about it.

patslax29
03-31-2008, 08:58 PM
Ok so its safe to assume that Rockhurst has full school support yeah? And that they can get a big turnout for each season. I'm glad I really am, I wish we could get at least half as many guys that tryout for some of the teams. You gotta understand, in St. Louis, some schools don't get that much support. P. South cant even use the football stadium at the high school for the senior game some years. So Rock, if some guys are pissed that you get school support and can go out of state, that's because some of us cant afford it bro.

HawkletLax
04-01-2008, 08:51 PM
Yes but then there are some teams with 20 boys on a varsity team compared to Rockhurst's 100 boys that try out.

100 boys? jv/varsity is made up of around 50-55 players..about 7 got cut...

HawkletLax
04-01-2008, 08:54 PM
Yes but then there are some teams with 20 boys on a varsity team compared to Rockhurst's 100 boys that try out.

100 guys? try around 50 on jv/varsity thats about 25 per team...only about 8 or so got cut..lets not exaggerate.

wolfpackdanny
04-01-2008, 09:21 PM
Personally i think the reason that rockhurst is so good is because there are no other real legit schools in the kc area compared to their being several legit schools in st. louis. So the great players in st louis get split up, and for the good players in kc they just all go to rockhurst because thats really the only big private school there is.

PTH
04-01-2008, 10:26 PM
Personally i think the reason that rockhurst is so good is because there are no other real legit schools in the kc area compared to their being several legit schools in st. louis. So the great players in st louis get split up, and for the good players in kc they just all go to rockhurst because thats really the only big private school there is.

i'd have to disagree with that. just for reference, i am from st. louis. you don't go into high school a good player except for extremely rare circumstances. good players develop from freshman to senior year. there can be fundamentally(stick skills) good freshman players, but without high school level game/practice experience, coming in there are no players that are "good." lacrosse hasn't developed enough in missouri for players to get adequate experience before high school. In my opinion, the only thing that matters in having a good team is a good coaching staff. Good coaches get there players excited about the game, make the game fun, make the players want to work and get better in the off season, and get players talking about the game in an excited way so that word travels to younger years and you get big numbers for tryouts. I don't know rockhurst's coaching staff, but from their performance it seems like they have a good staff, along with quite a few st. louis teams. This season is going to be a good one.

Given that a lot of the games so far have been out of state and hard to judge the missouri team's skill level by, what do you think top 5 teams this year are? any teams that lost get impressed by the team that beat them?

cdslax
04-02-2008, 11:49 PM
I'm not sure about parkway central but i kno parkway west shud be good. CBC, MICDS, Rockhurst, SLUH, and De smet will all be some of the better teams in the state. Also Lafayette shud have a good team this year. they got a good lookin d and offense. No other teams have seemed to stand out to me other than those teams

CodyDef#9
04-03-2008, 06:33 PM
How's SLUH looking this year?

patslax29
04-03-2008, 08:38 PM
P. West got beat by Central.

laxmonster54
04-04-2008, 03:40 PM
How's SLUH looking this year?

They Played very good against us this year. It was our first Game this season so you guys know how that goes.

But overall there Very good.

dwyer28
04-05-2008, 03:38 PM
who won the CBC DeSmet game today

desmetlax
04-05-2008, 06:44 PM
desmet won 8 - 4

laxmonster54
04-05-2008, 08:46 PM
Hickman Play Parkway west tomorrow at noon if anyone is interested.

Dashlock
04-06-2008, 03:56 PM
Lindbergh beat p. central today

laxmonster54
04-06-2008, 07:30 PM
Parkway west beat hickman 7-5

Lax'N'Roll
04-06-2008, 07:35 PM
is it true that sluh beat rockhurst????

sluh
04-06-2008, 08:50 PM
we beat them 9-7 today

8-0

laxmonster54
04-07-2008, 05:32 PM
we beat them 9-7 today
still undefeated
8-0

CONGRATS!!!
Glade to hear that!

lacrosse45
04-09-2008, 11:07 PM
how did desmet lose 14-3 to parkway west??

LaxBills08
04-10-2008, 06:47 PM
Sluh vs. CBC tomorrow 7:30 at Sluh if anyone is interested in going.

thedamnedfan
04-12-2008, 01:33 AM
Times for Rockhurst games tomorrow? And location?

ol boy
04-12-2008, 11:23 PM
does anyone kno what time west playes saint joseph

kcgoalie39
04-13-2008, 02:00 PM
rockhusrt beat parkway south 18-0 and central 12-0 on saturday

laxmonster54
04-13-2008, 08:10 PM
Hickman Beat Central 7-6 today

CodyDef#9
04-15-2008, 12:00 AM
i love SLUH's Field....

laxmonster54
04-15-2008, 03:07 PM
Hickman Beat Kirkwood 9-8 yesterday

playa
04-16-2008, 09:40 PM
how did desmet beat cbc and get destroyed by parkway west?? ... i kno micds beat west, but has sluh played either desmet or west?

Dashlock
04-17-2008, 05:25 PM
desmet beat lindbergh yesterday 6-5

lacrosse45
04-19-2008, 06:38 PM
MICDS beat Sluh last night 5-4...are they the team to beat now??

missouri lax
04-19-2008, 07:30 PM
I heard that Brennan Lyss didn't even play in the game because he had to go to some choir concert.

fenderstrat3578
04-20-2008, 05:33 PM
he didnt play vs rockhurst, i know that

laxmonster54
04-20-2008, 06:46 PM
Hickman Beat Parkway south 13-3 today.

laxmonster54
04-22-2008, 12:39 PM
Hickman Plays Rockhurst tonight at 7:00

laxman2006
04-22-2008, 06:32 PM
I am new to the lacrosse world of Missouri, having moved from out east. I want to better understand the history of lacrosse in St. Louis, i.e., teams, players, players that go on to Division I. Can someone give me the names of the top ten all-time best lacrosse players from St. Louis and any college programs they attended? Thanks!

laxman2006
04-22-2008, 06:40 PM
Hey, I am new to St. Louis and want to better understand the lacrosse dynamics out here, having moved recently from the East Coast. Can you tell me the names of the top all-time best lacrosse players to have come out of the St. Louis area and any college programs they might have attended? Thanks!

laxman2006
04-22-2008, 06:42 PM
Hey, I am new to the St. Louis area and want to better understand lacrosse dynamics, history, etc, out here. Would you be able to tell me the names of the top ten all-time best lacrosse players to have come from the St. Louis area as well as any college programs they might have attended? Thanks!

drnkndakoolaid
04-24-2008, 10:43 AM
who won the rockhurst vs hickman game?

laxmonster54
04-24-2008, 02:53 PM
Rockhurst won 11-3

We where beating them for the first ten mins if that counts for anything lol
They are really good at stick checks and thats the only thing that really stands out and I guess ground balls also.

hopefully we make playoffs so we can play them again.



Rockhurst thanks again for the pizza that was very nice of you guys...

QPLax11
04-24-2008, 09:05 PM
Basically we started off strong putting up 2 and drawing penalties. They beat us on a fast break, then scored off a penalty. Don't want to start things but their third goal, the guy had his foot in crease and the referee saw and didnt call it. We pretty much defeated ourselves from that point on.

Rockhurst is still a good team. They stripped us a lot on offense, and the 2nd half we pretty much played defense the whole time because of it. It's a fast paced game so you need to be in shape. We hope to get a second chance.

And, like laxmonster said above, thanks for the pizza haha

missouri lax
04-25-2008, 11:44 PM
MICDS beat DeSmet 9 to 7.

laxmonster54
04-26-2008, 01:00 AM
Hickman Beat lindenburg.5-3 (I think thats how you spell it)

playa
04-26-2008, 12:09 PM
according to one of the CBC players ... MICDS beat CBC 14-3 (idk if that is official yet or not tho)

desmet.lax
05-01-2008, 02:16 PM
does anyone know how they are going to be setting up playoffs

missouri lax
05-01-2008, 09:19 PM
MICDS beat Chaminade 14 to 10. We are playing Lafayete tomrow.

CoachFauss
05-02-2008, 09:14 AM
does anyone know how they are going to be setting up playoffs

The top 8 teams in each division make the playoffs based on their record vs. other teams in their division. Games against teams from the other division do not count. Teams will be seeded based on their record and the first tie-breaker is head to head record.

There is a listing on the molax website with the records of all the teams. http://www.molax.org/MSLA/ConfStandings2008.html

Unfortunately, they have it divided up by conferences which really don't mean anything because all 8 teams could theoretically come from the Patriot conference and no team from the Independence conference could make the playoffs.

It's obviously much easier than the point system we've had the past few years.

Bruce Dickenson
05-03-2008, 08:11 PM
Rockhurst 12 Parkway West 5. Kudos to the Parkway West Face off guy. West suffered a couple of injuries today, I think number 15 and 42.

CoachFauss
05-04-2008, 07:19 PM
Anyone know when, or if, the following games are going to be made up?

Ft. Zumwalt vs. Republic
Parkway North vs. Pembroke Hill

It looks like every other rainout has been rescheduled.

Should be an interesting end to the season. Here are the current standings (only including divisional games):

Fox 10-1
Pembroke Hill 9-3
Clayton 7-3
Ft. Zumwalt 7-4
Springfield 6-5
Ladue 6-5
Columbia Rock Bridge 6-7
Wentzville 5-4
Webster Groves 5-5
Rockwood Summit 5-6
Eureka 4-8
Hazelwood 2-7
Parkway North 2-8
Republic 0-8


I have to admit, I haven't been following Division I very closely. What's the playoff picture look like?

hurst022
05-05-2008, 11:03 AM
hickman is the 8th seed thats all i know for sure...if we go 0-3 this weekend we wil still be 8th seed but if we win at least one of them we will move up

gjjjjt
05-05-2008, 11:44 AM
Ft Zumwalt vs Republis is scheduled for May 2 night weather permitting.

Not reported on LAXpower results, Fox beat Republic (I don't know the score)


So:
Fox 11 - 1
Republic 0 - 9

Springfield clinches a playoff spot if they beat Republic tomorrow. Ladue clinches a spot if they beat Webster Groves or Clayton. All teams currently with at least 7 wins are in the playoffs. Teams finishing with 6 wins need to hope there aren't 8 teams with at least 7 wins.

CoachFauss
05-05-2008, 02:31 PM
Ft Zumwalt vs Republis is scheduled for May 2 night weather permitting.


May 2nd? That was last Friday. Do you mean the 12th?

gjjjjt
05-05-2008, 05:36 PM
Sorry, Friday May 9 on the Ft Zumwalt - Republic game.

When are the Wentzville - Parkway North, and Wentzville - Webster Groves make-ups?

Key games this week in Div II to determine who goes to the playoffs:

5/6
Wentzville - Clayton (Wentzville needs 2 more wins to clinch a spot in the playoffs. Clayton is already in, but is playing for higher seeding)
Webster Groves - Ladue (winner clinches a playoff spot)
Republic - Springfield (Springfield clinches a playoff spot with a win)

5/9
Hazelwood - Webster Groves (If WG didn't beat Ladue on Tues, they clinch a playoff spot if they win this night).
Clayton - Ladue (Again, Clayton is playing for a higher seeding; Ladue is playing to make the playoffs if they didn't beat Webster Groves on Tues).

5/10
Rockwood - Republic (A Rockwood win and a makeup game win vs Hazelwood gets them to 6 wins and a playoff spot if they are tied with Ladue and Wentzville if all 3 teams are tied at 6 - 7)
Clayton - Springfield (Clayton again playing for a higher seed. If Springfield is still at 6 wins prior to this game, a win gets them in the playoffs; a loss and they are probably out. If they have 7 wins already, a possible improved seeding comes with a win.)
Wentzville - Republic (Wentzville is possibly still trying to get to the playoffs)

Make-up games of note
Rockwood - Hazelwood (Rockwood needs this one and a win over Republic to have a chance)
Wentzville - Parkway North (Wentzville needs two more wins vs 4 opponents this week to clinch a spot. Only one win and they risk missing out.)
Wentzville - Webster Groves (Both teams could use this win to clinch a playoff spot.)

kcgoalie39
05-05-2008, 07:28 PM
rockhurst should be getting the number one seed

QPLax11
05-05-2008, 08:51 PM
As of right now, these are the standings and what the playoffs look like in Division I


Overall In-State (and In-Division I)
Rockhurst 14- 8 12-1 (Still plays Vianney)
MICDS 11- 2 11-1 (Still plays Parkway Central and Hickman)
SLUH 14- 4 9-2 (Still plays Parkway South and Vianney)
Desmet 9- 6 8-4 (Still plays Kirkwood)
Parkway West 10- 6 7-4 (Still plays Lafayette)
Columbia Hickman 8- 4 6-4 (Still plays Lafayette, CBC, and MICDS)
CBC 9- 7 6-5 (Still plays Parkway Central and Hickman)
Lafayette 9- 7 5-4 (Still plays Lindbergh, Parkway West, Hickman and Parkway Central)
Parkway Central 5- 6 4-6 (Still plays CBC, MICDS and Lafayette)
Chaminade 3- 8 3-8 (Still plays Lindbergh and Kirkwood)
Vianney 2-10 2-7 (Still plays Rockhurst, Parkway West, Lindbergh and SLUH)
Lindbergh 5-10 2-8 (Still plays Chaminade, Lafayette and Vianney)
Kirkwood 3-11 1-9 (Still plays Parkway South, Desmet and Chaminade)
Parkway South 1-11 0-11 (Still plays Kirkwood and SLUH)

CoachFauss
05-06-2008, 07:57 AM
Sorry, Friday May 9 on the Ft Zumwalt - Republic game.

When are the Wentzville - Parkway North, and Wentzville - Webster Groves make-ups?


From Wentzville's team website:

Wentzville vs. Webster Groves - May 7th
Wentzville vs. Parkway North - May 8th




In my earlier standings, I had Summit beating Webster but now it's switched on Laxpower. Can someone confirm who won that game?


If Webster did win, here are the most current standings through last night's games:

Fox 11-1 (guaranteed #1 seed)
Pembroke Hill 9-3
Clayton 8-3
Ft. Zumwalt 7-4
Webster Groves 6-4
Springfield 6-5
Ladue 6-5
Columbia Rock Bridge 6-7
Wentzville 5-5
Rockwood Summit 4-7
Eureka 4-8
Hazelwood 2-7
Parkway North 2-8
Republic 0-9

CoachFauss
05-06-2008, 11:14 PM
Anyone know the score of Rockwood Summit and Hazelwood from today?

gjjjjt
05-08-2008, 01:17 PM
Here's my Division II update:

#1 Fox
#2 Pembroke Hill - they clinch 2nd place if they beat Parkway North (when is that being played?)
#3 Clayton - they clinch #2 if Pembroke Hill loses to Parkway North and Clayton beats Ladue and Springfield. They finish #4 if they lose to either Ladue or Springfield and Ft Zumwalt wins their last 2 vs Hazelwood and Republic.
#4 Ft Zumwalt - Could move up to as high as #3.
#5 Webster Groves - games remaining vs Hazelwood and Wentzville. The Wentzville game is critical to both teams for seeding purposes. Whoever wins that game is probably a higher seed.
#6 Springfield - has clinched a playoff spot as have # 1 - 5 in this list. Could move up higher with a win over Clayton, but probably won't drop any lower than #7.
#7 Ladue - With a win over Clayton they clinch a playoff spot. Lose and they wait to see what Rockwood and Wentzville do.
#8 Wentzville - needs to win 2 of their last 3 to guarantee a playoff spot. If they only win 1 of the 3 they are probably out of the playoffs with a 6 - 7 record.
#9 Rockbridge - they are essentailly out of the playoff picture at 6 - 7 and tiebreakers vs remaining playoff eligible teams not favoring Rockbridge.
#10 Rockwood - One more win and they wait to see what happens in the Ladue vs Clayton game. At 6 - 7 they move ahead of Ladue if they are tied for the last playoff spot. A tie with Ladue, Rockbridge and Rockwood and Rockwood still comes out on top. A tie between Ladue, Rockbridge, Rockwood and Wentzville and Rockwood and Ladue go to the playoffs.
#11 Eureka - out of the playoffs, but a lot of close games bodes well for the future.
#12 Hazelwood and Parkway North - out of the playoffs but with a few close games.
#14 Republic - first year as a varsity program.

So the first round is probably Fox vs Rockwood or Ladue. All other matchups have too many possibilities as of today.

laxmonster54
05-08-2008, 05:53 PM
who all is going to Camps this year I am going to the IL. elite Camp.
Any one going there?

CodyDef#9
05-09-2008, 08:29 AM
Cape central is going varsity next year btw!

Kudos to fox, thats one hell of a season guys!

missouri lax
05-09-2008, 09:01 PM
rockhurst should be getting the number one seed

Shouldn't MICDS be getting it since they beat SLUH?

pshwarriorlax17
05-10-2008, 12:48 AM
Who is all going to the Irish Elite camp?

laxmonster54
05-10-2008, 10:16 AM
I was considering it but. I just thought that Illinois had a better program.

drnkndakoolaid
05-10-2008, 09:46 PM
Rockhurst beat micds head to head. more wins with head to head victory equals #1 seed

lillaxgoalie
05-11-2008, 10:20 PM
Thanks for the kudos

lillaxgoalie
05-11-2008, 10:20 PM
thanks for the kudos

insider15
05-12-2008, 12:37 PM
Is it true that MICDS has hired the offensive coordinator from St. Stephen's and St. Agnes School (the team who just beat Georgetown Prep in the IAC semi's)? If that is true, MICDS may be committing to building a long term, legit program.

lillaxgoalie
05-12-2008, 06:56 PM
Is it true that MICDS has hired the offensive coordinator from St. Stephen's and St. Agnes School (the team who just beat Georgetown Prep in the IAC semi's)? If that is true, MICDS may be committing to building a long term, legit program.

under rated attackman David Justvig for fox

laxmonster54
05-12-2008, 07:30 PM
Hickman Plays MICDS tomorrow.

Terry Tate
05-12-2008, 09:46 PM
so the season is almost over... any predictions on who will get all state and all american? By position

desmet.lax
05-12-2008, 10:38 PM
pshwarriorlax17 - I'll be at the Irish Elite Camp

hurst022
05-13-2008, 01:17 AM
attack
brian hoff
will mckormick
chad maple

Mid
Andy Boyd
mike cocking
Ryan McKibbin

Defense
#34 Laf pole
#24 rock
matt shuster

thats not everyone but thats who i know of and think should make it....

lillaxgoalie
05-13-2008, 06:44 AM
wat about goalies

laxmonster54
05-13-2008, 07:03 AM
wat about goalies

Dont know their names so my opinion really shouldn't matter lol

but I think these goalies are amazing:

Vianney
Rockhurst
Lafayette
And Hickman's Goalie Dan Hurst :)

Dashlock
05-13-2008, 05:12 PM
*cough* Lindberghs goalie *cough*

playa
05-13-2008, 10:12 PM
Dont know their names so my opinion really shouldn't matter lol

but I think these goalies are amazing:

Vianney
Rockhurst
Lafayette
And Hickman's Goalie Dan Hurst :)
bryce potter from micds is very good ... only a sophomore tho

hurst022
05-13-2008, 10:52 PM
he was ok....only like 6 saves in the hickman game....but he cleared well for a young player...quality goalie play must run in the family haha...

laxmonster54
05-14-2008, 09:51 AM
he was ok....only like 6 saves in the hickman game....but he cleared well for a young player...quality goalie play must run in the family haha...
Yeah I agree. He was good but the only stuff he seemed to stop was theshots that were hitting him in the chest.
He was still pretty good though.

FoxGoalie11
05-14-2008, 08:21 PM
So who are people playing in playoffs

laxmonster54
05-14-2008, 08:41 PM
So who are people playing in playoffs

Hickman Plays Rockhurst at 2:00 on Saturday.

desmet.lax
05-14-2008, 10:53 PM
desmet plays lafayette friday

CoachFauss
05-14-2008, 11:41 PM
So who are people playing in playoffs

Div I

1 Rockhurst Sat @ Rockhurst
8 Hickman 2:00pm

Winners play on Wed. @ Wash U at 7:30pm

4 DeSmet Fri @ DeSmet
5 Lafayette 5:00pm

2 MICDS Sat @ MICDS
7 CBC 3:00pm

Winners play on Wed. @ Wash U at 5:00pm

3 SLUH Thurs @ SLUH
6 Park West 7:15pm


Div II

1 Fox Fri @ Fox
8 Rock Summ 7:00pm

Winners play on Tues @ SLUH at 5:00pm

4 Webster Gr Sat @ WG
5 Ft Zumwalt 1:00pm

2 Pembroke Sat @ Pembroke
7 Wentzville 6:00pm

Winners play on Tues @ SLUH at 7:30pm

3 Clayton Sat @ Clayton
6 Springfield 12:00pm

State Championships are the following Saturday. Division II game first followed by the Division I game.

QPLax11
05-15-2008, 12:07 AM
Top Goalies in my opinion are (in no particular order):
Ferber
Potter
Hurst
Ashlock

gjjjjt
05-16-2008, 11:50 AM
The only difference I know of for playoffs would be if Springfield and Pembroke Hill both won, then the 2nd round game would be played at Rockhurst. That's to prevent both teams from needing to travel to play a playoff game. Of course if either Springfield or Pembroke Hill loses, the 2nd round would be in St. Louis regardless that the higher seeded team would be from Springfield or Kansas City.

hurst022
05-16-2008, 03:50 PM
shu...just to let ya know, that wasnt ferber who played in cage against us, it was mike king or something like that...ferber was recovering from an injury that game...

Veni Vidi Vici
05-16-2008, 09:00 PM
Fort Zumwalt - 11
Webster Groves - 7

CoachFauss
05-16-2008, 10:19 PM
Scores being reported on westsidelax:

Desmet 8, Lafayette 5
SLUH 16, Parkway West 6

Ft. Zumwalt 11, Webster Groves 6
Fox 13, Rockwood Summit 3

QPLax11
05-17-2008, 01:19 AM
well both have pretty good stats regardless

FoxGoalie11
05-17-2008, 11:37 AM
fox was 14-3

gjjjjt
05-17-2008, 03:16 PM
Clayton 10 Springfield 6

Clayton was the better team today.