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schratxs20
02-13-2008, 12:02 PM
hi im in a strength and training class in college and i need to do an analysis on a sport so i picked attack

heres an example for golf
Golf Athlete Needs Analysis


Movement Analysis


Skills of the Game

Back Swing
Down Swing
Weight Transfer
Contact
Follow Through
Walking


Back Swing
Shoulder – Abduction (Medial & Lateral) : Frontal & Transverse Plane
Medial Deltoid
Lateral Deltoid
Supraspinatus
Infraspinatus
Pectoralis Major
Levator Scapulae
Trapezius
Rhomboid Major & Minor
Trunk Rotation : Transverse Plane
Erector Spinea Group
Transverse Abdominus
Internal & External Oblique
Rectus Abdominus
Core Muscles – Muscles that Stabilize the Lumbo-Pelvic Hip Complex
Tensor fasciae late – Medial Hip Rotation
Gluteus medius – Medial Hip Rotation
Gluteus minimus, anterior fibers – Medial Hip Rotation
Triple Flexion : Frontal, Sagittal, & Transverse Plane
Iliopsoas (Psoas Major & Minor, Iliacus) - Hip Flexors
Rectus femoris - Hip Flexors
Sartorius - Hip Flexors
Adductor longus - Hip Flexors
Adductor brevis - Hip Flexors
Pectineus - Hip Flexors
Hamstring Group Flexion (Vastus Medialis, Vastus Lateralis, Semimembranosis, Semitendinosus, Biceps Femoris Long & Short Head
Tibialis Anterior, Peroneus Flexion


that was just the up swing

is there anyone who can help me with the attack position and what main factors i need to put into this

shooting running catching things like that
and if you can help me that would be really nice

WAXmyLAX
02-13-2008, 06:05 PM
Because a golf swing is so specific, but uses so many components, I would suggest doing just a shot if you're doing attack, or a cradle.

LiquidMercury16
02-13-2008, 06:21 PM
Stick with a high to low shot and you have basically same thing as a golf swing

OmenPigeon
02-14-2008, 07:05 PM
Well if you have a lacrosse team at your college (you might not yet) then you could try to find one of the players and have him tell you some face to face. It seems like you might need the names of the muscles and joints that you use. I can't really even name muscle that is on the bottom of my arm. If you watch some videos you might be able to just guess kinda on what muscles you would use. I think your best bet though would be to be able to watch some kids actually shoot.

Cburylax
02-14-2008, 08:14 PM
This isnt too hard.....you basically listed every muscle in the body though. Give me a motion and I'll help break it down.

LiquidMercury16
02-14-2008, 09:06 PM
This isnt too hard.....you basically listed every muscle in the body though. Give me a motion and I'll help break it down.

I second that. Could also provide vector analysis with physics if needed and disbursement of force in relationship to the movement.

ethslax12
02-14-2008, 09:13 PM
cbuy and liquid, what do you guys study in school? u guys really seem to know a lot about the body and muscles and im interested in learning more and maybe take some classes in college

cnlax19
02-14-2008, 09:27 PM
http://www.e-lacrosse.com/yeager1.html

this seems really good.

LiquidMercury16
02-14-2008, 09:38 PM
cbuy and liquid, what do you guys study in school? u guys really seem to know a lot about the body and muscles and im interested in learning more and maybe take some classes in college

Right now pursuing a degree in Corporate Finance but I have one in nutrition and dietetics. Also have a minor in accounting, minor in economics, and am pursuing CSCS certification. Have held at one point in time or another (some have expired as I haven't done continuing education) NSCA, ISSA, and ACE. Might get a degree sometime later in biomechanics as I truly enjoy it.

Cburylax
02-14-2008, 09:50 PM
cbuy?

Degree in Nutritional Science, Minor in Sports medicine, NSCA CSCS for 5 years. Tons of continuing education seminars and lectures.

Now back on topic.....what are we going to break down?

ethslax12
02-14-2008, 09:56 PM
sorry CBUry,
what is NSCA and CSCS

MaKiMaKi13
02-14-2008, 10:12 PM
sorry CBUry,
what is NSCA and CSCS

http://www.nsca-lift.org/

Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist® (CSCS®)

quick google search yields great results

Cburylax
02-16-2008, 10:01 PM
ya....so where are we with this?

Tehb2
02-16-2008, 10:14 PM
Shots:
Overhand
side arm
W/e we call a "high-to-low" shot (underhand?)
behind-the-back


A lot of attack shots are closer to the goal, so even though we might use all of the basic muscles in the arm, sometimes the shots are a lot of the wrist and are kind of a hard "flick". From more distance or with the "high-to-low" is when you get a real follow through that involves a lot of the shoulders, core, triceps, and biceps.

Movements would probably be sprints, rolls, shuffles and side steps (lateral?), and jumps.