View Full Version : Freshman not allowed on Varsity
Lax4life528
02-18-2008, 10:04 PM
For us, Freshman can only play with the Freshman team, no matter how good they are, NO EXCEPTIONS.
I'm just wondering because I know a couple of schools around our area that do this, but I wanted to see what its like elsewhere.
Spartanlax47
02-18-2008, 10:05 PM
my school doesn't even have a freshmen team, but in my school district even eight graders can play varsity (i'm in eight but i do jv)
but yeah freshmen play varsity sometimes
Live4It
02-18-2008, 10:05 PM
umm..ok.
It's not like that here, you can play varsity no matter what grade, you just gotta have skillz.
LaxIzKool
02-18-2008, 10:07 PM
well you have to be in hs to play on my team!!! but freshman can play on v but im on jv
ndawg247
02-19-2008, 06:43 PM
that is absolutely rediculous
on my to be hs team(i was 8th grade) we had a frosh who played attack, he was 1st team all state, amazing
laxplaya9
02-19-2008, 07:53 PM
most schools its only an issue if the coach wants an eigth grader to play varsity, i might be wrong but lax4life is mountain lakes a private school or public cuz i kno they beat delbarton last year but wasnt sure if it was non league game but its usually up to the athletic director anyway so if a freshman really wanted to push it it probably could happen.
OwlsLax
02-19-2008, 08:47 PM
there was a guy in 8th grade who played on our varsity but he didn't start. He was Dan Gibson, Notre-Dame midfielder
Tehb2
02-19-2008, 09:01 PM
They don't let you in Mt. Lakes? I'd think the coaches might want to get their most promising freshmen some experience at the higher levels so they adjust to it faster.
No, where I live we don't have a freshmen team, so freshmen can play varsity (like i did). I don't know what our coaches would do if we had a freshmen team. Having freshmen has never hurt us, so maybe they'd still allow it if they had a frosh team.
Raiderslax911
02-19-2008, 09:15 PM
i'm a freshmen on varsity. thats pretty bogus about the no exceptions hting, if your better than anyother player at your shcool you chould def. play varsity, if your the best chance they got at a good season to
Lax4life528
02-19-2008, 10:41 PM
most schools its only an issue if the coach wants an eigth grader to play varsity, i might be wrong but lax4life is mountain lakes a private school or public cuz i kno they beat delbarton last year but wasnt sure if it was non league game but its usually up to the athletic director anyway so if a freshman really wanted to push it it probably could happen.
We're a public school and we beat delbarton in the state finals.
I'm not trying to change the way our system works, but I'm just wondering if any other schools r similar. I mean, the system has worked for us. We always have plenty of people on varsity and JV where I guess frosh would be better off playing frosh because they would get more playing time. I'm not trying to stir up controversy or anything here.
calgoalie9
02-20-2008, 04:00 PM
we do that here for football, but not lacrosse. It's trying to build team chem. if you play together for freshmen and JV you'll be used to each other and know how to play together by the time you get to varsity
JohnsHopkins16
02-20-2008, 04:12 PM
what is a forshman team....?
anyway only one kid has played varsity all four years.... he ended up getting in a car accident after making a bad choice (cough should of paid attention in dare cough)..... i have not heard of his status but he lived and last time i saw him was at halftime at a game,... he was in a wheel chair and had a helmet on,... such a shame........
playwithpride14
02-20-2008, 04:13 PM
At our school no matter what sport it is, if you have talent, you play up.
QBYattackmen15
02-20-2008, 04:17 PM
doesnt matter the grade...you can play varsity if you got varsity skittles, if you have the skills, they wat you.
Lax4life528
02-20-2008, 04:18 PM
what is a forshman team....?
froshmore?
it like a freshman/sophomore combined team
JohnsHopkins16
02-20-2008, 04:27 PM
froshmore?
it like a freshman/sophomore combined team
isnt that just jv?
dta06
02-20-2008, 04:35 PM
isnt that just jv?
A froshmore team would be like a JV b team. It has the scrubby sophmores and decent freshman.
cnyminder
02-21-2008, 10:06 AM
Well if the freshmen are good enough why does it matter????
dta06
02-21-2008, 10:24 AM
Well if the freshmen are good enough why does it matter????
Some schools want the freshman to play on a freshman team so they can learn the basic offensive a defensive schemes that varsity uses, so by the time they move up to varsity they are familiar with everything and the coaches won't need to reteach everything. Then they can get into more advanced things. It also gives freshmen the chance to learn leadership roles, so that by the time they are seniors they will know how to be leaders and keep the team intensity alive. My schools wrestling team does this and it works out very well, we have great leaders every year
RgLax
02-21-2008, 04:05 PM
My school doesnt allow freshman onto varsity anymore. Our new coach believes in keep the younger teams together, basically what mountain lakes is doing, it worked for him at st. ignatius high school too. A good player should stay with his teammates becuase junior and senior year is when he is going to be best and when it really counts so you want the team to mesh when they are freshman and sophs, not juniors. Just my thoughts though
hockeylaxr18
03-31-2008, 09:42 PM
My school has a freshman team, it isn't for the fundimentals but mostly for the bonding
Laxtothemax7
03-31-2008, 09:57 PM
my brother made varsity as a freshmen, now he has a full ride scholarship to Denver.
sta lacrosse
03-31-2008, 10:57 PM
im a freshman playing/practicing varsity but i play in both games. 1st line jv and 2/3rd line varsity middie. But yeah around here (kansas) except for my school you could play varsity at pretty much at any age. A kid i know played varsity as a 7th grader.
schratxs20
03-31-2008, 11:21 PM
my boy who plays at hopkins
played varsity as an 8th grader
Rizzle
04-01-2008, 08:57 PM
Give it time.
stealthsniper96
04-02-2008, 07:58 PM
what is a forshman team....?
Froshmore or just Frosh. Stands for Fresh/soph.
line goes fresh/soph > jv > varsity
spyopticgoggles
04-02-2008, 08:06 PM
my boy who plays at hopkins
played varsity as an 8th grader
is that paul rabil?
my team allows it, our best attackmen has been playing varsity since 8th grade, starting (i think) since 9th grade.
cincyboy729
04-02-2008, 08:21 PM
We've got 24 guys. We're varsity and we'll take whoever we can get.
CHRISLAX15
04-03-2008, 08:48 AM
if you can play varsity that you should play varsity
schratxs20
04-03-2008, 09:16 AM
haha nah its mike powers
hes a sophmore in college now
orynos
04-03-2008, 02:10 PM
varsity but they most likely won't play.
kevidinho
04-03-2008, 03:11 PM
if youre big enough and good enough you can play varsity but not many kids do
i think two freshman dressed for the playoffs a year or two ago but not much pt
but theyre both really good now
ATK.19.90
04-04-2008, 05:47 PM
At my school, we have that same thing, but for football not lacrosse. For lacrosse, anyone can play anywhere (excluding the freshmen team) as long as they deserve to be there. Last year (my freshman year) we had a goalie, an attack and 2 middies on varsity but none started. This year theres only one goalie as a backup and a 3rd line dpole, but more may move up
rynolax
04-04-2008, 05:58 PM
My varsity team (I'm in 7th grade so I don't play for them. We don't even have a JV team.) has an 8th grader staring at goalie, but he's amazing, and another 8th grader starting at attck. So really anyone can play for varsity.
MiddieMan05
04-04-2008, 06:46 PM
this year we actually have 4 freshmen on the team, which is a lot since we only had one last year. Not all of them are gonna got a lot of minutes, but they definately deserve to be there.
lacrossekid7437
04-04-2008, 08:11 PM
the freshman on my team can play on varsity, they just gotta have the skillzz
AugustaLax42
04-05-2008, 12:09 PM
I think you guys have this "upperclassmen invincibility" mentality that may put the most talented player in your school on JV just because he's a freshman. Is that really good for your team?
cchslaxman
04-05-2008, 10:04 PM
we have a jv and varisty. no one in 8th grade plays except we didnt have a goalie in the jv game so we had the 8th grade goalie play. our school only has a jv and varsity team. i start long pole mid on our varsity and im the youngest kid on the team, (still 14). and then in jv i play where ever i want. hahah. there are 4 other freshman besides myself that play varsity too. but i start they dont :) haha. [/end proud moment]
b-h lax
04-05-2008, 11:49 PM
we have a jv and varsity. and i think there is one freshman playing on jv and i think middle schoolers can play on jv or varsity if they are good enough and pass some test thing. well i know it works for other sports cuz one kid played on varsity track in 8th grade. but... he plays lax now
EastCoastDeft
04-06-2008, 08:31 AM
wow, the people who made that rule up are really dumb. Anybody should be able to play varsity if they have talent
gclark94
04-06-2008, 09:13 AM
I go to a public school in Georgia and the county I live in already isnt a big fan of getting a lax team so there is no way that they would even fund a freshman team, but it doesnt really matter because only 2 freshmans play on the varsity team anyway.
Bonanzal
04-06-2008, 02:22 PM
At my school we only have enough boys for a varsity team... kind of sad.
sallieslax#30
04-06-2008, 02:32 PM
we can be on varsity
Blingman1331
04-06-2008, 08:13 PM
I know alot of kids who made varsity freshman year. If you are good enough to be on varsity then you should be on varsity. It's as simple as that.
TMLAX
04-07-2008, 07:48 AM
Very few freshman make it on varsity in MIAA but even if they do, very few get any play time. I think that unless you can make first string or second line midfield as a freshman you should play JV or Fresh/Soph for 1 year. The experience is more valuable than "making varsity".
laxkid44
04-07-2008, 08:58 AM
i think if your good enough, and you can pass a fitness exam, then you can be eligible for varsity. but i don't think a senior should not make the team because a freshman wants to play. if there are not enough people, then i think a freshman could be pulled up. personally, i'm a freshman on JV and i'm a fogo (1st line), regular middy (2nd line) and i'm on the emo squad.
sweet_hitch-hik
04-08-2008, 11:36 AM
i can understand where a coach is coming from doing that, but i think if they have the skill they should be able to play
Dub C lacrosse
04-08-2008, 08:34 PM
As long as your cool like me, you can play Varsity.
jamessilva17
04-10-2008, 08:00 PM
no. I think depending on the school and team freshmen should play Varsity, it should be a coach/ athletic director decision. I am a freshman and my twin and i play varsity and JV, but otherkids on varsity teams at schools where all the players are Juniors or seniors i think it might be a hazing issue etc and not all freshmen, but lal 15 year olds should have this rule applied to them.
icefreeze57
04-11-2008, 07:25 PM
A) i dnt think 8th graders should be allowed to play varisty depnds on state i gusse i live in Jersey n we have seprate Middle Schools
B) if the program is devolped enough to have a Freshman team, well then yeah USE it (mby in playoffs when the Freshman n JV seasons r done Freshman can come sit the bench, i mean dress)
im a freshman i play JV we dnt have a freshman team there are 3 freshman on V
cougarlax20
04-12-2008, 05:43 PM
we have 3 freshmen starting varsity [2 midis one of them a starting face and and an LSM] and are some of the biggest contributers to the program
i feel if ur good enough u can play whereever u deserve to play for me thats jv [im a freshmen btw]
icefreeze57
04-12-2008, 09:31 PM
My varsity team (I'm in 7th grade so I don't play for them. We don't even have a JV team.) has an 8th grader staring at goalie, but he's amazing, and another 8th grader starting at attck. So really anyone can play for varsity.
well duh they CAN its more should they be able to
TMLAX
04-12-2008, 09:58 PM
In MIAA and all Public Schools in Maryland, once you've stepped foot on a field in a varsity game you cannot move back to JV. Also, 8th graders are not allowed to play high school sports.
icefreeze57
04-12-2008, 10:45 PM
In MIAA and all Public Schools in Maryland, once you've stepped foot on a field in a varsity game you cannot move back to JV. Also, 8th graders are not allowed to play high school sports.
wow i like tht....
i dnt in jersey 8th can play either thts it should be
Gamebreaker7
04-13-2008, 08:13 AM
Two Freshman at my school play varsity. Can't really call them freshman though since they are both 5'11 and shoot around 90 mph
mdexpresslax
04-18-2008, 02:20 PM
Most freshman MIAA varsity players are "redshirt's" - they are a year or two older than the average public school freshman. If they are good enough to start and menatlly aged, they should play. If there not an impact player, they should play JV. Makes no sense to ride the varsity pine when you are a freshman. You have some really good freshman that get ruined by there coaches and parents - they are not mature enough - it shows on the field.
neuqualax5
04-19-2008, 01:07 AM
at my school, middle schoolers (6th-8th grade) can't play high school sports. also, once you are on the roster for 4 varsity games, u can't play jv anymore. there was a rule against freshmen on varsity cause of physical and mental maturity, but 3 of us freshmen broke it this year cause we only got 3 seniors. rebuilding year
chrislax
04-19-2008, 04:23 PM
My good friend whos a freshman plays on the varsity team and hes already scored three times and 5 assists in the past 3 games :D
whothaplaya
04-26-2008, 06:07 PM
My school doesnt have a freshmen. But there is a freshman on varsity.The only sport no matter how good you are as a freshmen you cant play varsity is Football at my school.
FatAttack
05-01-2008, 11:04 PM
i don't know about you guys, but these 7th and 8th graders you are talking about would not make it in our Conference. I remember myself as an 8th grader, and while i did have a solid left and a right, i probably ran a 5.5 forty and was half a foot shorter and 60 pounds lighter.
I've played against only one freshman who i thought was physically and stick skills wise, prepared to be a major contributor to his team. he's at a little school called St. Mary's of Annapolis these days. Boy gets absolutely dirty and was second in POY voting his sophomore year.
ForTheScore
05-07-2008, 01:01 PM
ya at my school we have a jv and a varsity but only 2 freshman play on our varsity because they can crank the rock
laxmiddie1232
05-09-2008, 07:06 PM
down here in VA if you're good you're on varsity, but you have to be in HS. im in eight atm, amd i will join up with my local high school's varsity squad next year, but until i then i just play offseason leagues with them(im allowed there just not school league)
I also have just a hunch that the more developed the program, the harder it is to be on higher level teams. the high school i will be attending doesnt even have a freshy team, just JV and varsity, making it easier to place varsity than a program like delbarton or dematha
recon2ten
05-17-2008, 10:34 PM
We dont have a freshman lax team just a JV and a Varsity. If youre a freshman you can play on any team just as long as youre good enough.
murphlax
05-19-2008, 06:12 PM
We can be on varsity, but my school's varsity sucks so bad that me and another freshmen turned them down to play JV.
bch89
05-23-2008, 12:46 PM
If a freshman can handle the responsibilities of being a varsity player than he should be able to play on varsity. The competitive level you play on has nothing to do with age or grade but rather the hard work and commitment an individual is willing to give so that he/she can perform to compete at a higher and more competitive level.
Laxmaniac712
05-23-2008, 02:39 PM
Well my highschool only has JV and varsity. and only high schoolers can play on it. but my coach usually takes one or two freshman on varsity each year.
B-MORElax27
05-29-2008, 01:17 PM
in the miaa tons of freshman play on varsity
telelax
05-30-2008, 10:34 PM
I think this rule is highly biased toward hot-bed areas and while CO is becoming a hot-bed, there are still those schools that scramble to even make a JV team. I started at midfield on Varsity my freshman year and I had no problem gelling with the team. I also disagree with the senior varsity rule that some teams have because as you say, it is a chemistry thing and the last thing you want is someone who hasn't played before ruining the chemistry that the players that have played for 5-6 years can develop fairly quickly
WM Father
06-04-2008, 08:42 AM
A good player should be allowed to play Varsity at any age, as long as his size is not a factor. He should be of average size for Varsity ball, if not he could get really hurt.
Play hard, hit harder and have fun...
telelax
06-05-2008, 01:37 PM
A good player should be allowed to play Varsity at any age, as long as his size is not a factor. He should be of average size for Varsity ball, if not he could get really hurt.
Play hard, hit harder and have fun...
I was 5'6" my freshman year on varsity and It wasn't a problem. Its more an issue with strength and maturity. I didn't sustain any lasting injuries.
(see picture)
mglax41
06-10-2008, 11:37 PM
ridiculous, my team has one senior, 4 juniors, 8 sophmores, and 15 freshman and including myself. most of the freshman start and we made it to the 2nd round of the PA state tournament and won our leauge
BigUncleJohn
06-15-2008, 06:22 PM
We used to allow freshmen to play on Varsity, but no more.
Varsity is a cut team; JV is and Frosh are not. Therefore by putting a Frosh (who most likely would not play) on Varsity we would have to cut a senior to make room. Making room for some one who has no investment vs some one who has did not strike us as fair.
It was the opinion of the board that a senior who is on the bubble is more deserving of a spot on Varsity than a freshman regardless of the level of talent.
The freshmen team would benefit more from a really good player being there to challenge the other players in practice and lead the team in games than to be sitting on the bench on Varsity. In the unusual circumstance of a player who is talented enough to start on Varsity, the development of the Freshmen and the team as a whole is more important than the one individual.
afalax010
06-15-2008, 08:29 PM
i've never heard of froshmore. that is most amusing
I-Like-to-Slash
06-19-2008, 12:53 PM
My team was built out of freshmen and sophomores this year... we had one senior and a few juniors. We had to play teams that were all senior and juniors.
cblax78
06-19-2008, 01:24 PM
as a freshman that started on our varsity team i think freshman should be able to play at any level no matter how good.
SteezyLacross05
06-23-2008, 09:14 PM
I was on varsity my fresh year and I did really good, i don't see why they cant play, if there good enough, heck let them play varsity.
But be shr if there ready to play at that level i had a friend play varsity is fresh year for hockey and he broke his collar bone because he was to small.
HCS14A
06-23-2008, 09:30 PM
i played on var. this year as an eighth grader. so freshmen should get to play, too.