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lax_guy666
11-28-2004, 09:32 AM
ok this is my first post here so forgive me if its been asked before.....if the ref blows the whistle while the ball is in the air and it drops down in your net is it considered a goal?

bigDman
11-28-2004, 09:55 AM
its a goal...
but there might be some exaptions but with all wistles i can think of its a goal


anyone care to back me up

zak
11-28-2004, 04:42 PM
Hmmm I dont know about Canada rules but I think it is a goal. Depends on the wistle too i guess. I know theres all those slow whistles and you keep playing until a goal or gb so i'd imagine same thing goes.

Snake~eyes
11-28-2004, 05:05 PM
I won't back you up because I don't agree.

If the whistle is blown before the ball fully crosses the plane created by the back of the posts then it is not a goal. The ball becomes dead when the whistle is blown, if the ball is not in a goal at the whistle it is not a goal.

shrekjr
11-28-2004, 05:44 PM
I have to agree with Snake on this one.

LaxRef
11-28-2004, 07:51 PM
ok this is my first post here so forgive me if its been asked before.....if the ref blows the whistle while the ball is in the air and it drops down in your net is it considered a goal?

If the ball completely breaks the plane before the whistle sounds, the goal is good (assuming there are no other circumstances that dictate that the goal does not count). If the whistle sounds first, no goal no matter what, not even if the whistle shouldn't have been blown.

See NCAA Rule 4-9:

Goal Not Counted
SECTION 9. Under the following conditions, a goal shall be disallowed:
(snip)
f. When the ball passes through the plane of the goal after one of the officials has sounded the whistle for any reason, even if the sounding of the
whistle was inadvertent.

CoachRob
11-28-2004, 11:21 PM
If the ball completely breaks the plane before the whistle sounds, the goal is good (assuming there are no other circumstances that dictate that the goal does not count). If the whistle sounds first, no goal no matter what, not even if the whistle shouldn't have been blown.

See NCAA Rule 4-9:
Goal Not Counted
SECTION 9. Under the following conditions, a goal shall be disallowed:
...
f. When the ball passes through the plane of the goal after one of the officials has sounded the whistle for any reason, even if the sounding of the whistle was inadvertent.

Same exact rule in NFHS 4-9.6. Further, even if the whistle has NOT blown, but the period has ended yet the ref has not yet gotten the whistle into his mouth to blow horn, it STILL is too late to count as a goal. That is because there is an inevitable delay between the end of period (timekeeper's horn) and a whistle sounding.

To zak: A "slow whistle" refers to a flag-down situation where the ref has not stopped play yet with his whistle. For example, A1 is slashed by B2. The ref throws the flag, creating a flag down/slow whistle situation. This means A1 still gets an offensive threat until the whistle blows. It may blow for a dropped ball/pass, ball goes out of bounds, and many others listed in NFHS rules.

A slow whistle is NOT a whistle that is blown "slowly". As SOON as the whistle makes a sound, it is considered to have blown. If the ref chooses to blow it for five seconds, that's his choice. It's the first 1/10th second that matters; everything else after that is for the benefit of the hard-of-hearing or those distant from the action so they know play has been stopped.

LaxRef
11-29-2004, 06:51 AM
To zak: A "slow whistle" refers to a flag-down situation where the ref has not stopped play yet with his whistle. For example, A1 is slashed by B2. The ref throws the flag, creating a flag down/slow whistle situation. This means A1 still gets an offensive threat until the whistle blows. It may blow for a dropped ball/pass, ball goes out of bounds, and many others listed in NFHS rules.

For this reason, I always thought the term "slow whistle" was poor. I would have preferred "delayed whistle" since that would have been more accurate.