8m arc

[blyon]

Can a girl straddle the 8m arc and avoid being called for a three second violation or does she need to be completely outside of the arc with both feet?

[CTLaxer]

Technically, one foot in the 8 is being in the 8. By rule no part of her body(feet) can be in the 8 without an attacker there for more than 3 seconds. Whether officials in your area will call you on 3 seconds for having one foot in and one foot out is another story though. If the attacker is an inch in front of the 8, it's a safe bet that you can have a defender in the 8 closely marking her without getting a violation, but again, it depends on the officials, some of them interpret the rules differently, especially if you're in a non-traditional lacrosse area.

[chippie]

just to add (not sure if it will affect you), 3 seconds should only be called if the defender affects play...but like CTLaxer posted some officials interpret differently

[ques]

The way that 3 seconds is being called this year is no matter where or when it occurs it is to be called. It is a point of emphasis for this year.

[chippie]

The way that 3 seconds is being called this year is no matter where or when it occurs it is to be called. It is a point of emphasis for this year.


in your opinion, do you think it should be called if the D is not directly interefring with play?

[ques]

IMHO I liked it the way it was before. If not affecting play, play on. There are enough stops in the game without adding this.

[Lax-Umpire]

the point of emphasis came from coaches requests -

A defender in the 8m - whether involved in the present play or not, is effecting the game and taking away opportunitues for the attack. A attack may want to cut into the 8m for a pass on the opposite side the play is actually running. That defender in the area is not effecting the present play but is effecting the attack.

One foot in the 8m - means the player is in the 8m. Call it, award the ball to the attack on the 8m for a free postion. Next time the defender will be outside the 8m.

[ques]

I would love to know which coaches that wanted it. I have heard nothing but complaints about it.

[2ifbyc]

As a coach I am all for the emphasis on 3 second calls. There is no downside for the defense (in my experience) that is created by proper positioning outside of the 8. In fact, one could argue that playing proper defense outside of the 8 is preferred because it keeps the attack further away from their objective (if even by the length of a size 7 cleat).

On the offensive side of 3 seconds, I am still all for the calls. If we play a defense that is not mindful of the location of their feet, then we benefit from the free 8m position that results from the 3 second call. If we play a defense that is mindful of the location of their feet, then when my attack does get into the 8, they generally have more time and space to execute.

3 seconds is one of those rare items in women’s lacrosse that is easy to coach, is (or should be) easy for players to understand, and does not require the umpires, players, or coaches to be subjective. I’m all for it.

[Lax-Umpire]

I would love to know which coaches that wanted it. I have heard nothing but complaints about it.

Came from the college level -those that suggest rule changes to improve the game. I can and do understand their point and look forward to seeing how it works.

Same people brought us the change in the body ball rule - another improvement of the game.

[ques]

I do like the new body ball rule.

[laxgirl0108]

what is the new body ball rule? is it being called more?

[ques]

Unless the ball is intentionally redirected it should not be called.

[Lax-Umpire]

Well - the player must intentionally allow the ball to hit her body. If it bounces off a players back, even if it goes to her team mate - it is no longer a foul.