Danowski's Illegal Pocket

[BigRedLax91]

http://www.lax.com/bimages/1992/46

This explains his 150 career goals!

[hstrack]

its been dicussed so many times before...
it looks like hes setting up for something, and mesh streches when you windup, cradle, etc...
sticks most prob not illegal

[HyltonLax88]

its been dicussed so many times before...
it looks like hes setting up for something, and mesh streches when you windup, cradle, etc...
sticks most prob not illegal

exactly. also angle of the picture taken sometimes

[THE_1protector]

i dont even think it looks illegal. how could you even tell with the angle?

its not the wand, its the wizard...dano is the wizard

[kevidinho]

also if it were always that deep there would be no way for him to make it legal..im sure he gets stick checked often enough.

look at the tight bottom string and everything else is tight too...so yeah its just force

[NDlax08]

what head is that?

[Live4It]

haha, I must say, I laughed at your reaction.

First of all, if his pocket was "illegal", he would've been caught somewhere between those 150 goals, they do do stick checks. And second, I guarantee you, if you look at all the pictures on lax.com, you'll find hundreds more of players using these "illegal" sticks. The mesh stretches when you cradle.

ND, It's a Brine Clutch.

[Warrior5]

If you watched the game on tv they said it was the length of the stick not his pocket.. notice he had a 3 minutes and not a 1 minute penilty

[BigRedLax91]

wait there is a rule on length of stick? i though if it was any where from 3 ft to 6ft it was fine...and who would want a stick shorter than 3 ft esp since short sticks generate less torque...

[cali feeder]

wait there is a rule on length of stick? i though if it was any where from 3 ft to 6ft it was fine...and who would want a stick shorter than 3 ft esp since short sticks generate less torque... I think its 40 or 41 inches to 72 inches or something like that.

Shorter stick = less stick for the defenseman to check, more stick control and maneuverability. I can understand why a lot of attackman do it.

[MaKiMaKi13]

Violation of the following rules results in a 3-minute non-releasable illegal crosse penalty (plus the crosse is confiscated and the goal disallowed)

• The crosse must be 40"–42" (short stick), 52"–72" (long pole), or 40"–72" (goalie stick) overall length. There is no rule regarding length of shaft or head taken alone, only as a unit.

http://lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=74727

[Laxattack05]

it seems that since the steriods problem in sports, anyone who achieves something great MUST be cheating... interesting...

[PDLAX1337]

What shaft is he using? The color makes it seem like an optra or a really dark SC21, but I don't see the Optra written on the top of the shaft or a SC21 symbol.

[MaKiMaKi13]

probably an ignite classic with the majority of the label rubbed off

[cnlax19]

Violation of the following rules results in a 3-minute non-releasable illegal crosse penalty (plus the crosse is confiscated and the goal disallowed)

• The crosse must be 40"–42" (short stick), 52"–72" (long pole), or 40"–72" (goalie stick) overall length. There is no rule regarding length of shaft or head taken alone, only as a unit.

http://lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=74727

Question: what if that person, who's crosse was found illegal in length, scored more than 1 goal, let's say they scored 3 goals. WOuld all of those goals be disallowed?

[Laxattack05]

i dont believe so... just the goal that was scored if it was checked right after a score.

[brainddeadjock]

Question: what if that person, who's crosse was found illegal in length, scored more than 1 goal, let's say they scored 3 goals. Would all of those goals be disallowed?


A goal would be disallowed if a stick check was asked for by the opposing coach or by a random check by the official. Any prior goals would stand.

Assuming the stick was too short, it's probably by millimeters since Danowski knows he is going to be checked often. The head could have been squished a bit or the butt end cap pushed a bit too hard. I suspected his sticks run at 40" right on the nose. Any deformation of the stick would make it illegal.

[Lacrosse4life31]

what head is that?

Brine Clutch

[VianneyLax22]

haha, I must say, I laughed at your reaction.

First of all, if his pocket was "illegal", he would've been caught somewhere between those 150 goals, they do do stick checks. And second, I guarantee you, if you look at all the pictures on lax.com, you'll find hundreds more of players using these "illegal" sticks. The mesh stretches when you cradle.

ND, It's a Brine Clutch.

very true, but...

http://www.lax.com/bimages/1645/23

seriously not a big deal

[QBYattackmen15]

very true, but...

http://www.lax.com/bimages/1645/23

seriously not a big deal

my lord, idc what angle that is, its illegal. but really, w/e haha. Matt gets his stick checked alot along with all the other goal scorers. he scroed 3 in the game against harvard s they checked it at least 2 times probably. haha and with your comment about "this explains his 150 career goals!" 1.)obvious Danowski hater, 2.) best check Zack Greers cause by the end of the season hes gonna have more goals that Matt D. :chuckle:

[sicknastybeast]

it seems that since the steriods problem in sports, anyone who achieves something great MUST be cheating... interesting...

tiger woods isnt on roids

[jackrox27]

Does that mesh look like the brine ultra mesh to anyone else?

[texlacrosse54]

It's probably the angle of the picture taken

[BK_Knights_9]

Violation of the following rules results in a 3-minute non-releasable illegal crosse penalty (plus the crosse is confiscated and the goal disallowed)

• The crosse must be 40"–42" (short stick), 52"–72" (long pole), or 40"–72" (goalie stick) overall length. There is no rule regarding length of shaft or head taken alone, only as a unit.

http://lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=74727

A team mate of mine got a penalty in youth league a few years ago for the length of his head being too short, but the overal length of his stick was legal.

[captpirate10]

ya it is...ilove that stuff and they stopped making it!!!!!!!!!!!!! idk what ima do nemore!

and by the way the legnth of shaft penalty was his second illegal stick of this season...the first was Lehigh and it was for it not coming out of the bottom of the stick..so hes on his 3rd stick of the season HAHA!

[bonebrakr12]

:angry: this brought memories to my team last year. we played the worst team and won and in the tourney we lost to em cause one of the guys stick was illegal cause the ball would hide in the mesh next to the screw hole when he cradled vertical. they scored like 7 goals cause our defense couldnt get the ball out and when he would shoot the ball would come out like a second after he shot. just shows u all that cheaters are cheaters so if hes been cheating, he must be shamed. he prolly wasnt cheating but it looks like it. sorry for the story....

[spyopticgoggles]

Does that mesh look like the brine ultra mesh to anyone else?

it is, a lot of college kids use it.

[spyopticgoggles]

ya it is...ilove that stuff and they stopped making it!!!!!!!!!!!!! idk what ima do nemore!

and by the way the legnth of shaft penalty was his second illegal stick of this season...the first was Lehigh and it was for it not coming out of the bottom of the stick..so hes on his 3rd stick of the season HAHA!

they dont take the stick forever, just for the game.

[fenwicklax89]

http://www.lax.com/bimages/1992/46

This explains his 150 career goals!

yeah you caught him. nice job tex

[MiddieMan05]

i don't think it even looks illegal. And if there is a bit of illegality, it's probably just the mesh stretching in the cradle.

[vves1ey]

The stick looks fine. It's on such a weird angle that your assumptions make absolutely now sense. Also, when you cradle or shoot, your mesh is pulled back due to forces [thank god for physics?] Danowski is good enough where I don't think he'd be sporting an illegal pocket in NCAA games.

[coyotelax2010]

At the Georgetown game he was penalized for it and basically lost the game for them cuz Gtown got 2 gaols off the 3 mins and went on a big run

[Laxattack05]

tiger woods isnt on roids

golf isn't a sport where superior physical strength and size are required... you can be 5'8" 140 and hit a drive farther than someone 6'4", 240 and stacked.

[fenwicklax89]

At the Georgetown game he was penalized for it and basically lost the game for them cuz Gtown got 2 gaols off the 3 mins and went on a big run

the penalty was 3:00, which means it wasnt an illegal pocket. illegal pockets are only 1:00. his stick was either too pinched or the length was illegal

[fenwicklax89]

:angry: this brought memories to my team last year. we played the worst team and won and in the tourney we lost to em cause one of the guys stick was illegal cause the ball would hide in the mesh next to the screw hole when he cradled vertical. they scored like 7 goals cause our defense couldnt get the ball out and when he would shoot the ball would come out like a second after he shot. just shows u all that cheaters are cheaters so if hes been cheating, he must be shamed. he prolly wasnt cheating but it looks like it. sorry for the story....

then you request a stick check. problem solved.

[laxman 9990]

the length was illegal, but that mesh he is using is very stretchy. i used that for like a week or so on my clutch but it just bags out after awhile

[Hillslax32]

My friend had an illegal long pole and it was 3min non releaseable

[AttackMan18]

And you said Matt has a big pocket.
http://www.lax.com/bimages/2018/24

[laxngoalie]

the acceleration of the ball mid cradle is higher than the 9.8 m/s^2 of gravity when the stick is checked, causing the appearance of an illegal pocket, with mass held constant. As far as the Umass pics, many players had pockets very similar to that, with pullstrings and what not, but the new random post goal stick check rule has mad suck strings much harder to use. Dano's stick is far from illegal if the difference is that minute when he cradles

[Laxattack05]

And you said Matt has a big pocket.
http://www.lax.com/bimages/2018/24

haha... jovan's pocket looks sooo fat in that pic!

[falconlax1]

http://www.lax.com/bimages/2018/27

sorry to get off topic but don't Syracuses jerseys look like tshirts instead of jerseys

[AttackMan18]

Hahaha, Greer
http://www.lax.com/bimages/2028/50

[Laxattack05]

yeah... greer's pocket has a ton more give to it i bet... canadian mesh probably...

[gtodude]

i saw danowski at the UVA game last night and i asked about his clutch and he showed me its not illegal