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laxplaya77
03-28-2008, 09:12 PM
Well i dont know if this would be considered a good idea or not, but im just throwing an idea out there.
What if there was a forum called the "Beginners Forum" or something similar to that.
There are lots of threads started by beginner lacrosse players on "how do i string my stick" or "what is a good stick setup for a beginner" or just anything similar that is asked multiple times by new kids to the forum.
It would give the newer kids a place to start out and get used to the forums. When i started out i think i got a warning or two because i didnt know where to find the rules and such. It would have helped if i had a place like a "beginners forum" to ask embaressing questions or stupid questions.f
This particular forum would be more laid back for the kids who are just beginning playing lacrosse or who are new to the forums.
Just a suggestion, but i think its a pretty good idea.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks

m2daRizzle
03-28-2008, 09:21 PM
that forum would be utter chaos, and probably really funny.

laxplaya77
03-28-2008, 09:25 PM
that forum would be utter chaos, and probably really funny.

haha ya you might be right but i think it would take more of the questions asked over and over and over again out of some of the forums and it would be a place where the beginners could adjust better.
i dont think it would necessarily be too chaotic though

spenny
03-28-2008, 09:29 PM
if they cant find the stickies in the training forum, what makes you think they will be able to find them in a whole new forum?

ML_LAX09
03-28-2008, 09:29 PM
Wow, I'd feel bad for the mods who have to deal with that mess...

laxplaya77
03-28-2008, 09:37 PM
alright doesnt sound like a good idea to anyone so nvm w/e

laxplaya77
03-28-2008, 09:46 PM
if they cant find the stickies in the training forum, what makes you think they will be able to find them in a whole new forum?

The whole point is so that they can ask questions that are normally asked a lot, and it would be a little more easier to get used to.

when i was just starting out on TLF, i didnt know what a sticky, a thread, a PM, a post, or what a lot of the lingo is on here.

On TLF home page, the first forum would be something like "Beginners forum"
and in smaller text it would say something such as "click here if you are a new member or a new lacrosse player"

i didnt know where to start out and i think i made some pointless threads so this might eliminate it.

itsthatkid
03-28-2008, 09:46 PM
I know on a longboarding forum I'm on we have a "Longboarding Resources/Question and answer forum"

Its the very first forum, and the description is "Get or give friendly, patient answers to, "Which board should I get?", "How do I stop?" or "What's wedging and how do I do it?"

I think that would be a good idea. Have it be the very first forum, it'd be pretty hard to miss. Give it a description like the one I posted, but lax oriented, it'd me money.

laxplaya77
03-28-2008, 09:52 PM
I know on a longboarding forum I'm on we have a "Longboarding Resources/Question and answer forum"

Its the very first forum, and the description is "Get or give friendly, patient answers to, "Which board should I get?", "How do I stop?" or "What's wedging and how do I do it?"

I think that would be a good idea. Have it be the very first forum, it'd be pretty hard to miss. Give it a description like the one I posted, but lax oriented, it'd me money.

yeah exactly my point.
Have it be the first forum and it would be a help/question/answer/beginner thread.

Lax4life528
03-28-2008, 10:35 PM
I think that wouldn't be a bad idea, a newb forum.

Or we need to have a big flashing thread in neon colors and all caps and takes up a quarter page that says:

********IF YOU ARE NEW, YOU MUST CLICK HERE BEFORE YOU TRY TO POST!!!********

itsthatkid
03-28-2008, 10:58 PM
I think that wouldn't be a bad idea, a newb forum.

Or we need to have a big flashing thread in neon colors and all caps and takes up a quarter page that says:

********IF YOU ARE NEW, YOU MUST CLICK HERE BEFORE YOU TRY TO POST!!!********

That would not be a good idea though. They would think it was just some useless thing that was common logic, and would overlook it. Crazy nubbz, haha.

Like you know how before your register, it makes you check the terms and agreemants? Do you ever do that? They may look at it like that. The idea I suggested is more...inviting, for lack of a word.

stinisonfire
03-28-2008, 11:12 PM
As a mod staff, we've discussed this before with some variations to it. Like m2 and spenny said, it would be chaos because the people who need this the most are the ones more likely to not even read it if they can't even take time to read stickies.

Kr3wLaxUno
03-29-2008, 12:34 AM
It would still be funny to read tho.. but very very chaotic

Jesse
03-29-2008, 01:26 AM
This thread just got me thinking...
How about making all new threads by a member that has been on the forums for less than 6 months (?) have to be checked off by a Mod of that forum before it gets posted?

Just throwing it out there... Theres probably a flaw in it.

cali feeder
03-29-2008, 02:42 AM
One must understand the noob before one tries to help the noob.

Try to help them, they'll probably completely avoid the help (not on purpose), and render it useless. I was the same way when I joined, and still am. To this day I've maybe read one or two stickies the whole way through.

You almost have to use reverse logic.

bethsc
03-29-2008, 03:12 AM
What is a better pole Warrior or STX? hahaha? I am a newbie hahahaha

Lax4life528
03-29-2008, 07:52 AM
What is a better pole Warrior or STX? hahaha? I am a newbie hahahaha

If put in the equipment forum:
OMG, there are like a hundred threads on this, use the search bar. This is total preference

If put in the newb forum:
Well, it depends on the pole you are looking at. Both companies have good poles and bad poles. Many people like the Warrior Kryptolyte or the Krypto Pro. Meanwhile, STX's main poles are their Titanium, Sc+Ti and Scandium, while they can be more expensive, they are also very high quality. It depends on what you are looking for in terms of lightness vs. durability.

Hooligan
03-29-2008, 08:49 AM
Create a forum that will house all the problems over which the moderators yank their hair out on a daily basis. Yeah, that would solve all of our problems...

We're not going to create a place for people to post garbage. TLF was created to house posts about lacrosse from the players of the game. We have become one of the icons of the game, and players of all levels come here every day to check this place out. Do you honestly think we would attract the same crowd if we started to allow junk posting on here? People aren't flooding TLF by the thousands every day just to see someone post nonsense.

Raising the bar and our expectations on quality of post has gotten us here. And since TLF has done pretty well for itself, we'll continue to expect nothing but the best our members can give. Our set of rules will not change (as it has not changed in nearly 4 years) and we will continue to be the finger on the pulse of lacrosse, and the voice of the players.

laxplaya77
03-29-2008, 09:33 AM
[QUOTE=Hooligan;1507577]Create a forum that will house all the problems over which the moderators yank their hair out on a daily basis. Yeah, that would solve all of our problems...[QUOTE]

Your sarcasm is not needed, i just was throwing a suggestion out there.
all you need to say is "no that would not work, too many flaws" or "we have already thought this out" like other people have said.
I thought i had a good idea but i guess not so you dont need to throw a fit and say "yeah, that would solve all our problems..."
It was a SUGGESTION.
I realize the flaws so please chill out a little.
I was just trying to HELP.
No need to be sarcastic like that.

ML_LAX09
03-29-2008, 09:47 AM
Create a forum that will house all the problems over which the moderators yank their hair out on a daily basis. Yeah, that would solve all of our problems...

Your sarcasm is not needed, i just was throwing a suggestion out there.
all you need to say is "no that would not work, too many flaws" or "we have already thought this out" like other people have said.
I thought i had a good idea but i guess not so you dont need to throw a fit and say "yeah, that would solve all our problems..."
It was a SUGGESTION.
I realize the flaws so please chill out a little.
I was just trying to HELP.
No need to be sarcastic like that.


Only problem with what your saying is that Hooligan didn't only say that. He started off with sarcasm then backed his opinion with facts.

link3193
03-30-2008, 10:56 PM
Im a noob myself to lacrosse, not forums, and i was thinking about this just now, so i checked the suggestions and figure this is the place to post. for a new forum, why not just have one thread for the start that says rules, or a lax faq, that will be like

What terms do I need to know
What qualities do each brand have
What traits do i need for such and such position
Whats sliding
Who can enter the crease


Basically, have a select few members go around looking at the questions a lot of noobs ask, compile them, give a good answer to them and make a faq thread for the users on the forum, this may be a better alternative to the entire forum idea, and maybe it could even be a welcome message to new users.

m2daRizzle
03-30-2008, 11:00 PM
they have those in the form of sticky's in the general mens forum.

link3193
03-30-2008, 11:06 PM
the 3 i saw there look more tailored to questions about the forums, not lax in general. I could be wrong. What I mean is one that is about the game, like the do's and dont's and things new players should learn, know, and try.

m2daRizzle
03-30-2008, 11:09 PM
the 3 i saw there look more tailored to questions about the forums, not lax in general. I could be wrong. What I mean is one that is about the game, like the do's and dont's and things new players should learn, know, and try.

my bad, I misunderstood.

link3193
03-30-2008, 11:13 PM
No problem. I just think It would help everyone if a group of users, not neccesarily mods and admins and staff since they probably have enough to do, to go around, maybe like 2-4 per each forum, more if needed, and gather up all the questions new players ask a lot, and compile them into either forum specific facts, or one faq for new players to read, and possibly if size permits, it could be sent out to each new user who joins.

Prof. Mushroom
03-30-2008, 11:44 PM
The majority of your questions can probably be answered in the
Lacrosse Instruction, Tactics and Training Forum. If not, search, as you are probably not the first one to want that answer to that certain question.
The Prof.

link3193
03-30-2008, 11:47 PM
If people used search more often, we wouldnt have many repeat threads of the same question.

cali feeder
03-31-2008, 12:47 AM
I think the idea of a PM with a bunch of basic information and links to important stickies (many of which need to be consolidated) sent to new users would be a great step.

Prof. Mushroom
03-31-2008, 02:27 AM
I think the idea of a PM with a bunch of basic information and links to important stickies (many of which need to be consolidated) sent to new users would be a great step.

That is actually an excellent idea. Basically a welcome brochure with important information regarding the Forums sent to new users upon registration. New members would probably be more apt to at least skim the PM when they receive it than go browsing around clicking on each sticky. It sounds like a good idea.
The Prof.

Jesse
03-31-2008, 03:12 AM
That is actually an excellent idea. Basically a welcome brochure with important information regarding the Forums sent to new users upon registration. New members would probably be more apt to at least skim the PM when they receive it than go browsing around clicking on each sticky. It sounds like a good idea.
The Prof.

Maybe make it a sticky that they cant delete for a certain ammount of time aswell?

roycegracie47
03-31-2008, 07:21 AM
No problem. I just think It would help everyone if a group of users, not neccesarily mods and admins and staff since they probably have enough to do, to go around, maybe like 2-4 per each forum, more if needed, and gather up all the questions new players ask a lot, and compile them into either forum specific facts, or one faq for new players to read, and possibly if size permits, it could be sent out to each new user who joins.

Actually those types of FAQs are already up in the equipment forum and Stick Doctor's Lounge for one, there is another basic introduction to lacrosse fundamentals (and an introduction to the sport) right at the very top of the trining forum. New terms come all the time that can't be accounted for immediately or never last, but the basic info is there, and specific ones and lingo to the site can really only be learned like a language, through searching and immersion. There is nothing wrong in asking questions to get answers but this is why searching is stressed amongst all of our users.

I think the idea of a PM with a bunch of basic information and links to important stickies (many of which need to be consolidated) sent to new users would be a great step.

This is an interesting idea, something the admin would have to look into see if it's possible. Otherwise the best we can really do is maintain those forum rules stickies at the top of the forums that say in giant letter reading LOOK HERE FIRST BEFORE POSTING! or the red lettering when creating a new thread reminding you to search first before creating the thread.. Unfortunately that means you can only lead the horse to water, this suggestion would make him drink, but if it's possible to be implemented as an auto pm by the system we'd have to hear from the admin.

Lax4life528
03-31-2008, 08:19 PM
It took me a month to find where the PMs were. But I would put a link to the rules in the warnings because when I got my first warning, I was flipping out, thinking "what did I do wrong!" because I couldn't find this forum. I know that they can probably find the rules themselves, but will probably help a bit.

ML_LAX09
03-31-2008, 08:25 PM
How about the new members have to search 10 times before they are able to post. Some new members join, ask one question (that could be easily answered with a brief search) and never come back.
(2.5)

Mavido
04-03-2008, 06:14 AM
haha ya you might be right but i think it would take more of the questions asked over and over and over again out of some of the forums and it would be a place where the beginners could adjust better.
i dont think it would necessarily be too chaotic though

The thing is, that this question has been brought up at least two dozen times a year.

Asking for a Beginners forum, or noob forum, some sort of mandatory stint in there is required for a certain number of posts before you can join the regular population... yadda yadda yadda.


Search rookie. It is not something we have or ever will be interested in. Its just not the kind of thing that you do to new members to make them feel welcome.