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BAlax19
03-30-2008, 09:32 PM
What are the odds like every one person in [insert number here] gets in

if you know the DII and DIII odds please feel free to add on

bigbri13
03-30-2008, 09:37 PM
I'd say every 1 in a 100, you have to be a hard worker though. Being experienced is great and having the stick skills is awesome. But these days schools are looking for more athletes, you can teach an athlete stick skills but you can't teach some one with stick skills athleticism. I've heard talk that schools look down on kids who play only lax all year long. They are looking for the lax players that play football and basketball in the offseason.

NorthernViking
03-31-2008, 02:03 PM
There was a great ad run during the the NCAA games this weekend. It said that there are 7.2MM high school athletes and less than 2% for them will get an athletic scholarship.

Even fewer get lax scholarships as there are only 12.7 and 10.8 for each D1 and D2 school, respectively. These then have to be divided by a squad that will number between 30-40 players.

Now that is strictly athletic scholarships, not need based, or academic money, but the bottom line is forget about getting an athletic ride and work on the grades. That is a much easier way to get money for college than hanging your hat on sports. Hit the field hard, but hit the books even harder!

splaxer13
04-01-2008, 03:38 AM
there are roughly 55-57 d1 schools for lacrosse. each school recruits about 10-12 kids per class. So if my calculations are correct, about 550+ kids will commit to a d1 school. But this is just talking straight up numbers. If you think you are a baller in comparison with the rest of you class, there shouldn't be too much of a problem. If you are just an ok player on 3rd line midfield, then chances aren't too high.

And lastly location,location,location. It makes a big difference coming from east coast , rather than west coast. Im not ripping on West Coast or anything, just making a point that East Coast is a lacrosse hub (Baltimore, Long Island), and that practically every d1 college is on the East during tournaments and games. If you are going to want them to see you, then make you self available in their presence. Good Luck.

CtLaxin
04-05-2008, 09:41 PM
id say D3 is not hard at all because there are kids on my team who are going to D3 schools that aren't very good and it is his second year, he cant go lefty at all

AugustaLax42
04-12-2008, 02:47 PM
Yeah, CtLaxin, he may be going to a D3 school but that doesn't mean he's playing lacrosse there (let alone starting).

kingwolf
04-12-2008, 03:08 PM
playing college lacrosse at any level is alot hard than people make it out to be its ridiculous that people think being able to play lacrosse at any level is easy

Startsy
04-12-2008, 06:06 PM
Very well put KingWolf.

Y'know maybe you aren't very good at Lacrosse and still (somehow) manage to get picked up.. Your not going to play. Only the good will end up playing (just sit the bench and use up a Jersey #). Unless its just a very bad school in general. But yeah DII and DIII are still very competitive in their own respects. I kinda just view it as that DI gets all of the bigger players (talking body size here) and DII and DIII respectively get smaller Lacrosse players not saying that they are much worse talent wise by any means.

I think that y'know if I was 6'2" 195lbs and had the EXACT same abillity to play Defense as I do now.. I could quite possibly be a DI prospect but seeing as how I'm only about 5'9" 160lbs I'll be playing DIII..

thats just how I look at things.. feel free to add on, obviously there ARE some big players in DIII and some small players in DI but generally I think my statement was pretty on at least for Defenders.

stinisonfire
04-12-2008, 07:08 PM
The odds are:

(Athleticism x Potential x Skill) + (Grades x Coachability x Attititude) / (Scholarships Available / Coach's need)

Lax4life528
04-12-2008, 07:28 PM
I have heard as high as 1 out of every 6 high school lacrosse players go on to play college lacrosse (D1, D2, and D3). I know that in my school, 3 seniors are going to play D1 next year and a bunch of guys are going to play D3.

stinisonfire
04-12-2008, 09:03 PM
Well also take into account that there are teams out there that constantly pump out college recruits in every class and also teams who rarely put out college prospects, if ever.

icefreeze57
04-12-2008, 09:15 PM
There was a great ad run during the the NCAA games this weekend. It said that there are 7.2MM high school athletes and less than 2% for them will get an athletic scholarship.

Even fewer get lax scholarships as there are only 12.7 and 10.8 for each D1 and D2 school, respectively. These then have to be divided by a squad that will number between 30-40 players.

Now that is strictly athletic scholarships, not need based, or academic money, but the bottom line is forget about getting an athletic ride and work on the grades. That is a much easier way to get money for college than hanging your hat on sports. Hit the field hard, but hit the books even harder!

so half the team isnt on sholarship...tht cnt be rite i saw a Cuse game today and even the players who didnt play were amazing

3rdPersonPlural
04-12-2008, 09:47 PM
There was a great ad run during the the NCAA games this weekend. It said that there are 7.2MM high school athletes and less than 2% for them will get an athletic scholarship.

Even fewer get lax scholarships as there are only 12.7 and 10.8 for each D1 and D2 school, respectively. These then have to be divided by a squad that will number between 30-40 players.

Now that is strictly athletic scholarships, not need based, or academic money, but the bottom line is forget about getting an athletic ride and work on the grades. That is a much easier way to get money for college than hanging your hat on sports. Hit the field hard, but hit the books even harder!

Good math. Let's look more carefully at the supply side. There are about 2600 High School Varsity programs. Each team has about 30 players, and it is not unreasonable to figure that 1/3 of them are seniors. This gives us 26,000 candidates for at most 500 openings on D1 rosters. Therefore, if you are a high school player, you have about a 1 in 50 chance of playing for a D1 school. 2%.

Keep in mind that you have to be a phenomonal athlete, have the grades to get in (Princeton, for instance, is pretty challenging), and be judged to be of good character. If you have all three attributes, your chances are about 1 in 5. If you don't have all 3, your chances are about zero.

laxmiddy92
05-08-2008, 07:40 PM
from what i udnerstand D2 is a joke but some of the kids in d2 would destroy the d1 kids like Roger vyse from limestone if he played at a d1 school hed be a god, on youube look for the OCC its a nativer american community college they average 25 goals a gaem to their oppenets 7

vinny a
05-08-2008, 08:38 PM
Very well put KingWolf.

Y'know maybe you aren't very good at Lacrosse and still (somehow) manage to get picked up.. Your not going to play. Only the good will end up playing (just sit the bench and use up a Jersey #). Unless its just a very bad school in general. But yeah DII and DIII are still very competitive in their own respects. I kinda just view it as that DI gets all of the bigger players (talking body size here) and DII and DIII respectively get smaller Lacrosse players not saying that they are much worse talent wise by any means.

I think that y'know if I was 6'2" 195lbs and had the EXACT same abillity to play Defense as I do now.. I could quite possibly be a DI prospect but seeing as how I'm only about 5'9" 160lbs I'll be playing DIII..

thats just how I look at things.. feel free to add on, obviously there ARE some big players in DIII and some small players in DI but generally I think my statement was pretty on at least for Defenders.
By your logic I'll be set hahaha. I'm 6'4 and still growing, 170 and I havent started lifting yet because I'm trying to keep growing hahah.

Lax is really hard to play in college, I'll be so damn happy if I go to a D1 school, but in reality I'm probably going to go to a D2 or D3 which I would still be happy about.

LHSlax42
05-11-2008, 09:30 AM
I'll be attending Rutgers University next year (D1 for all who dont know) and i'm going to walk on and try out with the big boys next year. Rutgers isnt a huge recruiting school and much of their team is from NJ. I dont know how good my odds are of making the team, but i think i would kick myself if i didnt at least give it a shot. not everyone is going to get recruited, but anyone can go and try out

laxCCM
05-12-2008, 08:40 AM
Good math. Let's look more carefully at the supply side. There are about 2600 High School Varsity programs. Each team has about 30 players, and it is not unreasonable to figure that 1/3 of them are seniors. This gives us 26,000 candidates for at most 500 openings on D1 rosters. Therefore, if you are a high school player, you have about a 1 in 50 chance of playing for a D1 school. 2%.

Keep in mind that you have to be a phenomonal athlete, have the grades to get in (Princeton, for instance, is pretty challenging), and be judged to be of good character. If you have all three attributes, your chances are about 1 in 5. If you don't have all 3, your chances are about zero.

True, but there are not 2600 competitive high school varsity programs. My old school was like 1500(I went to prep school for lax) and nobody in that programs history has ever gone d1.

I would say that there are more like 1000 competitive high school varsity programs, and a few exceptions from lower end teams. This at leasts halves the total candidates to 13,000 in my opinion. 4ish%

Edit: You're absolutely right about those three qualities. If you don't have them then your chances are extremely slim.

stinch38
05-12-2008, 08:47 PM
good luck lhslax

indianlaxer24
05-12-2008, 09:14 PM
If you live in the south you might as well kiss your chances goodbye cause it wont happen trust me they wont even look twice when it comes to Georgia lax players:(

laxcus27
05-13-2008, 05:27 PM
I live in TN and we had 1 kid from my school play D1 at UVA (Ryan Burns) and a fw others go n on play d3-d1 last year

theBUSlNESS
05-13-2008, 06:33 PM
Generally... if you're asking "do I have a shot at D1" and you're a HS Jr or Sr, the answer is probably closer to no than it is yes. Now I know I could, skill wise, make a D1 team, that I don't doubt. I play D3 because I wanted not only an opportunity to play, but an opportunity to be the face of a program, the chance to help my team grow and expand in its rebuilding process. CtLaxin, you say that your friend is going D3 and isn't very good. At my college, a varsity team, we have guys who have never played before. Many D3 teams lack depth without those guys and are willing to take a pair of legs who can play SSDM who can give the better players a break, and be coached up as he is with the program. I know for a fact that some D3 programs need that type of influx of players because it is difficult to competitively recruit guys if your school is not an upper tier program. I play for one of the lowest ranked schools in D3, and it is not because we don't have guys who have skill, heart, desire, or coaching, it is because we do not have the depth to run with other teams on our skill level. I can honestly say I've played a game in which we had 10 players, no subs, where attacks would be the 2nd line of mids. We even beat a team when we had 12 players, 1 of which was hurt in that game. There are plenty of places to play college lacrosse, D1 or otherwise.

RIT37FO
05-13-2008, 07:05 PM
it all depends on where you want to play

vmi d1 or top tier
same goes for d3 top tier or low end

mustang_lax
05-13-2008, 07:12 PM
Even before graduating highschool I knew that I wanted to major in engineering, so Umass Amherst was the college I was aiming for. Loved the campus, the location, the people there. However, I also wanted to play lacrosse. Before confirming my enrollment into the school ( I was accepted in) I scheduled an appointment with Coach Cannella. We discussed the possibilities of me walking onto the team. He said i could attend the try-outs, but most likely I would not make the squad, so I looked into the other schools I was accepted into, Wentworth and Umass Boston. I wasn't too fond of Wentworth. It was just my safety school, so i went to UMB and talked with Coach Rowley. There he told me there was a pretty good chance that I could play as a walk-on. SO after giving it some thought, I decided to go to UMB, still majoring in engineering and walking-on to a D3 program.

LONG story short, chances of walking on to a D1 program are very slim

bigbri13
05-13-2008, 08:47 PM
What about transferring from a club lax team in college to a low D-1 program as a recruit? The coach says no guarantees for ANY of his players because of how bad they are playing, but still I'm going there as a recruit and not as a walk-on. Is there a better chance there then?

Isles19
05-14-2008, 03:59 PM
You should probably ask your teammates, some of which could have probably played D1 if they chose to, on your club lax team if you are Division 1 level or not. They have actually seen you play as opposed to us.

Tomahawkslax41
05-14-2008, 11:13 PM
My friends brother got in to Princeton by getting good grades and he lives in Nor Cal and has seen a couple of games in the season (Kittler)

MACDADDY
05-20-2008, 11:33 PM
The odds are:

(Athleticism x Potential x Skill) + (Grades x Coachability x Attititude) / (Scholarships Available / Coach's need)

you should add some luck in there because i know alot of athletes that are phenominal but will never be seen because they arent at the right camps at the right time.

mercenary
05-24-2008, 12:58 AM
my friends brother plays at Cornell and he played soccer in fall and track in winter and he got in. just play more sports

centenniallax81
05-24-2008, 01:42 AM
By your logic I'll be set hahaha. I'm 6'4 and still growing, 170 and I havent started lifting yet because I'm trying to keep growing hahah.

Lax is really hard to play in college, I'll be so damn happy if I go to a D1 school, but in reality I'm probably going to go to a D2 or D3 which I would still be happy about.


size really doesnt have much of anything to do with it, im 6'4 220 and im playing D3 ball. im quick and have very good stick skills, but the fact that i didnt put my self out there to get recruited earlier hurt me. but not all the big guys get to go play D1 ball.

Titanoh
05-24-2008, 09:41 PM
I know Im far away, but I just need to know.
I live in Florida, and Im on a pretty good club team and I intend to stay on it through highschool (Im going into 8th grade). I've heard no many kids from down here go to play college, but Im not sure how true that is. The highschool I will be attending has a decent program, not bad, but they need work. I'd love to go to a D1 school, but I know that the chances are so slim, so Im hoping on going to a good DIII school for lacrosse.
How much slimmer are my chances because I live in Florida (compared to if I lived in LI or Maryland)?
Are there scouts at a lot of tornoments, or very few?
I know Im far away, but I figure if I start thinking about it now I can somehow prepare myself, knowing that the chances are slimmer will just make me work harder.

Dpole1313
05-26-2008, 04:20 PM
How is North Virginia for getting noticed? I mean it's obviously not long island, but it's right next door to Maryland, it's on the east coast, and it's a lot farther north than say, Georgia...right?

goalie1215
05-27-2008, 07:03 AM
How is North Virginia for getting noticed? I mean it's obviously not long island, but it's right next door to Maryland, it's on the east coast, and it's a lot farther north than say, Georgia...right?

if you want to get recruited from nova, then you need to make the madlax squad and be one of the best players on the team. you would also most likely be an all-american candidate if you are going d1. if you think you are good email the coaches and tell them you are interested.

Dpole1313
05-27-2008, 08:30 PM
tight
thanks bro
cant do madlax this summer but ill try next summer

LaxmanBen
06-03-2008, 11:29 PM
hey guys i live in utah and am just starting this summer as a freshman. ill be starting sophmore year at 16 yrs, 6'0 145 pounds, attackmen. if i give it all my heart, soul, and mind can i do this? i am in track also so i am somewhat fast. i would be happy in DII or DIII.

Dpole1313
06-09-2008, 01:14 PM
bulk up bro

navylax161
06-09-2008, 02:42 PM
I know Im far away, but I just need to know.
I live in Florida, and Im on a pretty good club team and I intend to stay on it through highschool (Im going into 8th grade). I've heard no many kids from down here go to play college, but Im not sure how true that is. The highschool I will be attending has a decent program, not bad, but they need work. I'd love to go to a D1 school, but I know that the chances are so slim, so Im hoping on going to a good DIII school for lacrosse.
How much slimmer are my chances because I live in Florida (compared to if I lived in LI or Maryland)?
Are there scouts at a lot of tornoments, or very few?
I know Im far away, but I figure if I start thinking about it now I can somehow prepare myself, knowing that the chances are slimmer will just make me work harder.

are all your tournaments in florida? if you go north up to the MD/VA area or farther, there should be guys watching high school league tournaments.

instead of banking on just getting noticed by schools, get your name out there. have your coach send a letter of recommendation for camps, send out a highlight tape, see if your coach knows any college coaches and he could help spread the word that theres a good player in florida.

naderlax23
06-09-2008, 05:09 PM
if you've got the skills to play D1 i can't see it being too tough. Say you went to Top 205 and were obviously one of the best players there. You would probably get invited to the Blue chip camp and from there it's pretty much a wrap. i don't think that they would care too much if you're from long island or alaska as long as you have superior grades and talent.

tHiZzLe
06-10-2008, 06:13 PM
I'll be attending Rutgers University next year (D1 for all who dont know) and i'm going to walk on and try out with the big boys next year. Rutgers isnt a huge recruiting school and much of their team is from NJ. I dont know how good my odds are of making the team, but i think i would kick myself if i didnt at least give it a shot. not everyone is going to get recruited, but anyone can go and try out

yes you can, many colleges do that, i play hockey and in my senior year im playing lax, for the fun of it idc if i go to college for it hockeys my game and you can walk on to a college and try out, dont be discouraged if you dont make it your freshman year.

westcoastlaxr30
06-12-2008, 06:44 PM
i live in orange county, ca. close to sandiego. how do you think my chances are in getting into a dII college?