Do Law/ or Med Students play Lacrosse in College?

[LaxGranny]

I know Hopkins has a great Medical School and Lacrosse, but I've never heard if any lacrosse players did both.

Where can I get a list of all D1/D2 school's that offer lacrosse and have a Medicine or Law program?

Also, is it possible to find out what majors their lacrosse players are taking?

Thanks,

Granny

[MaKiMaKi13]

Under the majority of all DI team rosters player's bios most players have what they are majoring in IE Max Levine JHU Psychology
http://hopkinssports.cstv.com/sports/m-lacros/mtt/levine_max00.html

As for a comprehensive list i'm not sure if your going to be able to find one with all DI/DII school's that offer lacrosse and have a great Medicine/Law program but you can use www.collegeboard.com to search for specific one's

[LaxGranny]

Thanks for the info Maki.

I did a quick look at every player on the Hopkin's roster.

Number one major was: undeclared
Number two was: Economics

then a bunch of political science, anthropology, etc.

one or two engineering students

and a one or two graduate students

there was one player, #32, listed as a Brain Sciences Major which I assume is a pre-med major

so I guess it can happen.

[LaxGranny]

this link had a nice advanced search feature where you could search for colleges/universities that had your sport, and your major.

http://colleges.berecruited.com/

[spenny]

del dressel, JHU: 4 time first team all american (one of 4 people to achieve that distinction) went on to med school and is now a practicing psychicatrist.

greg rommell, SU. was contemplating med school, but i think he ended up deciding to get a Ph.D in biomedical engineering.

thats just 2 off the top of my head

as for lawyers, i personally know at least 3 dozen lawyers that played lax in college.

[laxfolife24]

You can also purchase a large college book--the Princeton review one is very helpful. It lists a bunch of information about the college including the majors offered there and what sports are offered.

From what I hear it is possible to do both in college but you will be very busy and your social life ends up being put to the side.

[Isles19]

To get into law school you don't have to be a pre-law major remember. I know plenty of people who majored in other fields (history, philosophy, business, etc...) scored well on the LSats and got into law schools. Some of them were lax players as well. For med school from what I have heard you need to be bio or pre-med to get into med schools.

[spenny]

isles is correct many people who go to law school do so with many different degrees. my pop, in fact, went to law school with an undergrad degree in bio/pre-med.
after getting accepted to med school he decided that the last thing he wanted to do was be a doctor.

[Molson]

I went to law school after majoring in architecture. But my college lax carreer lasted only two weeks. I tried to walk-on in response to an ad for players in the school paper (this was in the 70s). I had never played - or even seen - the game before.

[hbslax4]

I know Denver has a great law school. I am going to be playing D1 lacrosse and plan to be a dentist so i will be going the pre med route. we'll see how it goes.

[BluejayBlitz9]

Thanks for the info Maki.

I did a quick look at every player on the Hopkin's roster.

Number one major was: undeclared
Number two was: Economics

then a bunch of political science, anthropology, etc.

one or two engineering students

and a one or two graduate students

there was one player, #32, listed as a Brain Sciences Major which I assume is a pre-med major

so I guess it can happen.

thats val washington , he was a walk on. hilarious dude. he actually was accepted to georgetown law.

[Riddler]

Matt McMonagle from Cornell was originally supposed to go on to Med school, but I don't know if he did.

[cannon]

Med and Law are Graduate degrees in the US so most players will have used their 4 years by the time they get to Med/Law.

Larry Quinn is a successful corporate lawyer.

[Wyvern75]

Chris Passavia (Cannons) is in law school now.

[gfkeeper28]

When I had surgery for a lacrosse injury, my surgeon was a lacrosse player at Yale.

[GilmanLAX]

my dad played d1 lacrosse and did pre-med, he said its extremely hard. but he did it.

[BluejayBlitz9]

When I had surgery for a lacrosse injury, my surgeon was a lacrosse player at Yale.

thats pretty nice. probally enstilled more faith in you as the patient. especiallly yale.

[stealth4785]

In order to apply for medical school, you just need to complete the requirements for entrance. Usually, these are two semesters of Biology, General Chemistry, Organic Chemistry and Physics; all with accompanying lab sections. In addition, you need to complete two semesters of Calculus and English courses. Also, some schools such as Osteopathic Medical Colleges require two semesters of a social science. In addition to all of this, most prospective students take a semester each of Biochemistry, Anatomy and Physiology, all with labs naturally. In fact, you do not have to be a Biology or Pre-Med major in order to get into Medical College, as long as you complete the requirements.

In your junior year, most students take the MCATs, (Medical College Admissions Test) which consists of a Biology, Chemistry, Organic Chemistry, Physics and Read Comprehension section, as well as two essays. The test is heavily structured and most students take a prep course for it, be it Kaplan or Princeton Review. The test itself is scored with a numerical score in three categories; 1-15 in Natural Sciences (Biology and Organic Chemistry), 1-15 in Physical Sciences (General Chemistry and Physics) and 1-15 for the Reading Comprehension section. Applicants to medical school average around a 30 while accepted students general average slightly higher at 32. The essay section is scored on a letter basis, J through T, with J being the worst and T being the best. Each essay is scored out of six points, each point corresponding to a letter; J(1) and T(12). The average on this is about a 6, or a P. This part generally is only looked at if you are a foreigner taking the examination.

[BluejayBlitz9]

In order to apply for medical school, you just need to complete the requirements for entrance. Usually, these are two semesters of Biology, General Chemistry, Organic Chemistry and Physics; all with accompanying lab sections. In addition, you need to complete two semesters of Calculus and English courses. Also, some schools such as Osteopathic Medical Colleges require two semesters of a social science. In addition to all of this, most prospective students take a semester each of Biochemistry, Anatomy and Physiology, all with labs naturally. In fact, you do not have to be a Biology or Pre-Med major in order to get into Medical College, as long as you complete the requirements.

In your junior year, most students take the MCATs, (Medical College Admissions Test) which consists of a Biology, Chemistry, Organic Chemistry, Physics and Read Comprehension section, as well as two essays. The test is heavily structured and most students take a prep course for it, be it Kaplan or Princeton Review. The test itself is scored with a numerical score in three categories; 1-15 in Natural Sciences (Biology and Organic Chemistry), 1-15 in Physical Sciences (General Chemistry and Physics) and 1-15 for the Reading Comprehension section. Applicants to medical school average around a 30 while accepted students general average slightly higher at 32. The essay section is scored on a letter basis, J through T, with J being the worst and T being the best. Each essay is scored out of six points, each point corresponding to a letter; J(1) and T(12). The average on this is about a 6, or a P. This part generally is only looked at if you are a foreigner taking the examination.

junior year of hs or college...and i know its sort of sly and cheating but would i be bette roff applying at hopkins for say a history major and then changing to pre-med?

[Riddler]

junior year of hs or college...and i know its sort of sly and cheating but would i be bette roff applying at hopkins for say a history major and then changing to pre-med?

Junior year of college. You have to go through four years of undergraduate college before entering med school. Most colleges also do not have a premed major. You can major in anything and go to med school as long as you take all of the required classes above. You can be a history major and go on to med school.

[jrmelax16]

thats val washington , he was a walk on. hilarious dude. he actually was accepted to georgetown law.

Val was a walk on? I had no idea...

[spenny]

Junior year of college. You have to go through four years of undergraduate college before entering med school. Most colleges also do not have a premed major. You can major in anything and go to med school as long as you take all of the required classes above. You can be a history major and go on to med school.

lol, or like my dad, you can premed and go to law school :laugh:

[Riddler]

lol, or like my dad, you can premed and go to law school :laugh:

Another possible route haha.

[BluejayBlitz9]

hah i meant like i probally wont do this just because I find it morally wrong... but im guessing its easier to get into a major at hopkins for history then premed. could i technically apply for history, then switch to pre med once im enrolled ? (i actually may major in history)

[Riddler]

hah i meant like i probally wont do this just because I find it morally wrong... but im guessing its easier to get into a major at hopkins for history then premed. could i technically apply for history, then switch to pre med once im enrolled ? (i actually may major in history)

As I said, they don't have a premed major. So apply as a history major, get in and then take the necessary courses (Bio, Chem, Calc, English, Physics) to apply to med school. So you know it's not morally wrong. At the schools I looked at after Bio majors, English majors are the second largest group who go on to med school.

[spenny]

do you have to declare a major when you apply?

[Riddler]

No, but they do ask what you are planning on majoring in. Undecided is an option.

[BluejayBlitz9]

No, but they do ask what you are planning on majoring in. Undecided is an option.

Very True. It may be smart to major in neurology or something. I think its sick to learn about spinal, brain sciences. I would be a neurosergon but it takes 15+ years of college to operate. Thats even before intern or residency...then again that 500k salary helps pay for all the student loans hah

[brunos13]

To get into law school you don't have to be a pre-law major remember. I know plenty of people who majored in other fields (history, philosophy, business, etc...) scored well on the LSats and got into law schools. Some of them were lax players as well. For med school from what I have heard you need to be bio or pre-med to get into med schools.

Isles it right. My son (a Rising Senior) is considering law school after he completes his undergraduate work. He has been advised by a number of different people to get his undergraduate degree in either English or History. In fact, you would be hard pressed to find a "Pre-Law" undergraduate program (unlike going to med-school).

Certainly one question to ask when considering a school is how many of their graduates go on to advanced degress. Certain schools like Loyola and Kenyon boast astounding statistics of something like 90% of their graduates seeking admission to law school are admitted to their first choice.

Good luck!

[sglax8]

Kind of off topic but didnt Mike Law leave the MLL to go to Law School?

[sjesuitlax]

Very True. It may be smart to major in neurology or something. I think its sick to learn about spinal, brain sciences. I would be a neurosergon but it takes 15+ years of college to operate. Thats even before intern or residency...then again that 500k salary helps pay for all the student loans hah

I went to NYLF/med where they told us stuff about going to college then med school. Everyone there was like if you want to get into med school- High MCAT, good grades in college, volunteering. The dean of admissions at A&M Texas said that from the start of college to the end of fellowship is constant studying and work.

So I asked my faculty advisor how do you do the other stuff like playing sports. And this guy was doing 6-8 hours a night mon-fri, 10-12 hours of studying saturdays, 6 hours of studying sundays through college and now in his 3rd year or med school.

He said "4 years of college with actually studying to get into med school + playing a sport full time there= A. you quit the sport, B. you give up med school, C. you pull it off and walk away knowing you didn't stop trying". All in all its going to be hard, but do able.

[wallabear]

Matt Danowski is attending Duke Law.
heard that on here somewhere

[BluejayBlitz9]

As I said, they don't have a premed major. So apply as a history major, get in and then take the necessary courses (Bio, Chem, Calc, English, Physics) to apply to med school. So you know it's not morally wrong. At the schools I looked at after Bio majors, English majors are the second largest group who go on to med school.

a tad personal but what did you major in? i would consider maybe neurology or brain sciences ( always fascinates me) and it can be related to med.

[lids369]

brain surgeons take atleast 14 years including residency. you learn while your doing your residence.

[Riddler]

a tad personal but what did you major in? i would consider maybe neurology or brain sciences ( always fascinates me) and it can be related to med.

I will be majoring in Molecular Biology or Biology.

[BluejayBlitz9]

I will be majoring in Molecular Biology or Biology.

best of luck...

[Riddler]

best of luck...

Thanks, if you have more questions, I'll be happy to help. I'll be going through all of it and have already had to research on the steps necessary to take to go to med school.

[Garor]

As a former player with a science major, let me give you my perspective for what it's worth. I still plan on taking the MCATs, but I'm not as sure that's where I'll end up. And don't give me too much credit.

I played 1 year of D1 lax. (NO you can't know which school it was). I came in undecided, but knew I wanted to major in a science. Balancing lax with my classes was unbelievably hard. For these reasons:
lab times
-most labs have a zero tolerance with absences or leaving early

tests
-our science tests were taken during random times of the day that either conflicted with practice or travel

being 1 of 2 science majors on the team
-the coach doesn't really understand the difficulty or the unique demand of say Organic Chemistry

If you can do it, good for you. Just know that both semesters with lax are incredibly demanding time wise. If you want to sleep at some point, summer classes will lighten your load. My coach recommended that I loosen my grip on academics to give more time to lax. I said, "no thanks."

Now if you want to take just the courses required for the MCATs, the demand should be easier, but still fairly difficult.
2 semesters bio
2 semesters chem
2 semesters physics
2 semesters orgo
calc 1 (most med schools want calc 2 or stat)

Just a thought. I'll gladly give anyone more info over pm. I'm just about to head into junior year, and have all the prereqs done.

[Riddler]

As a former player with a science major, let me give you my perspective for what it's worth. I still plan on taking the MCATs, but I'm not as sure that's where I'll end up. And don't give me too much credit.

I played 1 year of D1 lax. (NO you can't know which school it was). I came in undecided, but knew I wanted to major in a science. Balancing lax with my classes was unbelievably hard. For these reasons:
lab times
-most labs have a zero tolerance with absences or leaving early

tests
-our science tests were taken during random times of the day that either conflicted with practice or travel

being 1 of 2 science majors on the team
-the coach doesn't really understand the difficulty or the unique demand of say Organic Chemistry

If you can do it, good for you. Just know that both semesters with lax are incredibly demanding time wise. If you want to sleep at some point, summer classes will lighten your load. My coach recommended that I loosen my grip on academics to give more time to lax. I said, "no thanks."

Now if you want to take just the courses required for the MCATs, the demand should be easier, but still fairly difficult.
2 semesters bio
2 semesters chem
2 semesters physics
2 semesters orgo
calc 1 (most med schools want calc 2 or stat)

Just a thought. I'll gladly give anyone more info over pm. I'm just about to head into junior year, and have all the prereqs done.

This is unfortunately the problem that I am going to run into and will probably need to drop lacrosse (at least at the varsity level). My future career is more important than lacrosse for four years.

[Garor]

This is unfortunately the problem that I am going to run into and will probably need to drop lacrosse (at least at the varsity level). My future career is more important than lacrosse for four years.

Absolutely.
In the past year without lacrosse I have been able to maintain a strong GPA, join and play in a competitive club sport, volunteer, join and become an officer in a few clubs and recently became a mentor for incoming freshman. For me, this has ultimately become more fulfilling than just having a high GPA and having lax.

My best advice to everyone who's considering the lax/med school route is to really weigh your options and go with your gut feeling. Be honest with college coaches and if any people on the team are doing the same program, talk to them about it. Also, talk to their teammates about that same person. Teammates can often say whether or not that person really is busy and misses a ton of practice.

One of my former teammates was a pharmacy major. That person really didn't feel like it was a ton of work to do both. Speaking to the other teammates though, you really got a full picture that the pharm student was one of the rare few who can play a D1 sport, be in the honors section of a program and be active in Greek life.

[naplax10]

I'm interested in going into meds when I grow up, probably either heart surgery or something. Say I do this, would club lacrosse interfere with classes as much as being on the college lacrosse team? Because I have no chance of playing NCAA lax, but I want to play on a club team.

[Garor]

I'm interested in going into meds when I grow up, probably either heart surgery or something. Say I do this, would club lacrosse interfere with classes as much as being on the college lacrosse team? Because I have no chance of playing NCAA lax, but I want to play on a club team.

Each club sport varies. If you were to join an active member of the MCLA, you'd probably run a similar schedule to a D1 sport since all members of the MCLA are striving for varsity status. If you were to play on a club team that also has a varsity team, you may run a much more relaxed schedule.

Let me put it in perspective:
When I was on varsity practice was 6 days a week and lifting was 3 days a week. Most of the team lived together either on or off campus, and practice was 2.5 to 3 hours long. Travel time was any day of the week depending on our games.

When I joined a club sport, practice was 2 times a week at night so it wouldn't conflict with class. We had lifting partners so we could lift around class, but still get time in. We usually have one long run on the weekend. Games, became tournaments. We hardly ever travel to play just one game. If we go, we end up playing several in one weekend only. While we're still very competitive, the atmosphere is more relaxed. The team lives together, but is more spread out.

[spenny]

I'm interested in going into meds when I grow up, probably either heart surgery or something. Say I do this, would club lacrosse interfere with classes as much as being on the college lacrosse team? Because I have no chance of playing NCAA lax, but I want to play on a club team.

depends on how hard you want to work.
del dressel managed to be one of 4, four time first team all americans in the histroy lax, and afterwards he went on to medical school

[moonpod]

I haven't read all of this thread, but stealth posted a pretty accurate lowdown about the requirements for medical school. There is a relatively small core group of classes you need to take and then the MCATs and your letters of recommendation. IF you do well in those AND you played a D1 sport, that is looked upon VERY fondly by med school administrators. Anyone who does HALF way decently academically and was on a NCAA D1 team will get into a med school somewhere in the U.S.

If you are wondering, yes I am currently a surgeon and yes I used to be at a major medical academic center and on the admissions committee. Granted that was a few years ago now.

As for majors, very few major universities have a "pre-med" major. You end up majoring in some sort of bio science, because the core cirriculum mirrors the med school requirements. That's why you get relatively few non science majors, because adding in those requirements on top of your majors requirements puts a big crimp on your elective schedule. It's not that it's not undoable, but you have to be very careful about what classes you pick to take to make it all "fit". Remember you want to do well, so you can't take insane class loads on top of your athletic schedule. Additionally remember you need to get letters of recommendation and it's difficult to get those from your science professors unless you take upper division classes which you are NOT likely to do as a non science major.

Most club teams do not particularly interfere with an academic schedule.

[BluejayBlitz9]

Val was a walk on? I had no idea...

yep vals a good guy. ironically like spennys dad, val did brian sciences and the was accepted into georgetown law