Bandanas Illegal?

[BK_Knights_9]

Tonight one of my fellow attackman was penalized for wearing a bandana under his helmet, I believe he recieved a one minute non-realeasable penalty. Is a bandana considered "jewlery" which can not be worn? Is this prohibited equipment or a bad call? Thanks.

[LaxRef]

Tonight one of my fellow attackman was penalized for wearing a bandana under his helmet, I believe he recieved a one minute non-realeasable penalty. Is a bandana considered "jewlery" which can not be worn? Is this prohibited equipment or a bad call? Thanks.

It is not prohibited as far as I can tell. However, I do know a football official who warns people about wearing them because he says if the knot is (something, something) it can cause a concussion. I guess I don't recall exactly what his explanation is, but he says they tell all the kids that in football, so maybe it's in the NFHS football rules.

In any case, jumping to a 1:00 NR penalty for something not covered in the rulebook does seem out there. Now if the bandanna says, "South High Sucks!", then that's a different story.

[BK_Knights_9]

He was wearing a classic red bandana, so it wasn't in poor taste. Other players that were wearing skullcaps and bandanas were asked to remove them. I do understand the concern about safety, and thanks for the response.

Edit:

Yeah lacrosse has really only picked up in the last decade and is not yet sanctioned but is progressing towards it. The official who made the call had made several ticky tacky calls that night but he was the only official so that can tend to be a little frustrating. I was just wondering if the call was truly legit. It is promising that we have seen several officials that have been here for a while from youth league into high school and that is really what we need to keep it going.

Thanks LaxRef.

[LaxRef]

He was wearing a classic red bandana, so it wasn't in poor taste. Other players that were wearing skullcaps and bandanas were asked to remove them. I do understand the concern about safety, and thanks for the response.

I just noticed where you're from. I'm assuming lacrosse is relatively new to Boise; at this point, bite your tongue, tolerate the bad calls if you have new officials, and give them time to develop. If the players give the officials a hard time, they'll never stick around the 3-4 years they need to become good officials and you'll always have the same level of official: brand new.

I'm not saying you're giving them a hard time, but being annoyed is a common reaction when you get screwed on a call like this. Just keep in mind that the opponent is likely getting screwed on some calls, too.

Be happy you have anyone there to officiate, and eventually they'll start to pick up the rules!

[viking goalie]

coming from Idaho, this doesn't surprise me. our refs just don't know the game, but that's probably b/c most don't stay for various reasons. we don't give the refs a bad time (my team at least, i don't know about the others) but they just don't stay. most of the games played up north get reffed by other coaches which can be interesting at times

[LaxRef]

our refs just don't know the game, but that's probably b/c most don't stay for various reasons. we don't give the refs a bad time (my team at least, i don't know about the others) but they just don't stay

We have bad refs, so we yell at them, so we get new refs, who are bad because they're new, so we yell at them. . .

It's a self-perpetuating cycle. You have no one to blame but yourselves.

[grampa15]

wouldn't bandannas be covered under the uniform restrictions, so color might be an issue-- sounds to me like he is a HS football official where the rules state that nothing can be hanging out of the helmet etc...

[LaxRef]

wouldn't bandannas be covered under the uniform restrictions, so color might be an issue

Nah, those color rules are pretty specific about what they apply to. If we don't penalize the red team for having mixed color gloves and socks in NFHS, bandanna would be a huge reach. Plus, it would be a technical, not a personal, even if it bandanna color was a uniform violation.

[nwzebra]

I've seen in football a league rule prohibiting bandannas because people were wearing them to show their gang "colors." Perhaps it was a new ref applying a local football rule? In Boise? I don't know.

[NewRefInGA]

In football, (NFHS) nothing is allowed to be hanging out of the back of the helmet. This is covered by the coach certifying that all players are legally equipped. When a player is found to not be legally equipped, it is an Unsportsmanlike penalty on the coach. (15 yds). So I guess I can follow the reasoning of the ref in question. (I don't agree with it, but I can understand it).

That being said, however, most of the officials I have worked with just tell the player to tuck it in and be done with it.

In most cases we're more worried about what they are NOT wearing (hip pads, knee pads, tail pads, etc.) than what they are. Tinted visors (visors in general) also seem to be a MUCH bigger problem in football than in lacrosse as well.

[CelticLaxer]

Thanks for the discussion. I have also been caught by this ruling at times. An official ruling- one way or the other- is needed. In my case, many helmets (including CPX & Pro7) don't fit my head unless I have a bandana. Therefore, playing without a bandana is MORE dangerous in the case of small heads like mine.

[laxfan25]

"What's all this talk about bananas being illegal?? They are a very healthy snack, a good source of potassium and have been a good friend to many a lonely woman like myself! Next thing you know, all we're going to be talking about is the race for the presidential erection!"
-Roseanne Rosannadanna

[LaxRef]

"What's all this talk about bananas being illegal?? They are a very healthy snack, a good source of potassium and have been a good friend to many a lonely woman like myself! Next thing you know, all we're going to be talking about is the race for the presidential erection!"
-Roseanne Rosannadanna

"What is all this fuss I hear about the Supreme Court decision on a 'deaf' penalty? It's terrible! Deaf people have enough problems as it is!"

[hymie]

"What's all this talk about bananas being illegal?? They are a very healthy snack, a good source of potassium and have been a good friend to many a lonely woman like myself! Next thing you know, all we're going to be talking about is the race for the presidential erection!"
-Roseanne Rosannadanna

I think you mean Emily Litella.

[laxfan25]

I think you mean Emily Litella.
Doh! I must have been distracted by the big ball of sweat dripping off the end of my nose.
"What a stupid I am! "
Anyone know the source of that quote? (The 2nd, not the 1st, Bart).

[MElaxRef]

Doh! "What a stupid I am! "
Anyone know the source of that quote? (The 2nd, not the 1st, Bart).

Roberto (I coulda mastered this game) DiVicenzo. :clap:

[MElaxRef]

Thanks for the discussion. I have also been caught by this ruling at times. An official ruling- one way or the other- is needed. In my case, many helmets (including CPX & Pro7) don't fit my head unless I have a bandana. Therefore, playing without a bandana is MORE dangerous in the case of small heads like mine.

Then you need to inflate either the helmet or your head. :thumbsup:

Since bandanas are not listed in the "illegal underwear" rules, you can wear them in my games!

[laxfan25]

Roberto (I coulda mastered this game) DiVicenzo. :clap:
You're dating yourself, MELR!

(Or is that just a polite term for self-abuse?)

[stegmakk]

I remember years ago playing HS on LI, being told bandanas were illegal. Had to use sweatband or a bandana (tucked inside the helmet and hope to not get caught). Those were just before skullcaps and the like were available.

Not sure if it was all refs, or just a few...point is i HAVE heard of this before (and years ago at that).
My advice...wear a skullcap. More comfortable, no risk of penalty.

[Ctown311]

Yah I use a underarmour skull cap because its keeps my hair(decently long) from getting caught when I take off my helmet.

[pboyd]

Federation Rule 1-9-1(b) indicates the following: "No foreign material may extend below the base of the helmet." I have seen a letter from a helmet manufacturer that indicated the warranty was invalid if something was worn between the helmet and the players head.
I ran into a lacrosse player whose religous sect (Sikh) required their heads to be covered. Tuck it in - take it off - Play Ball - don't penalize.