how far? and is this legal?

[bonebrakr12]

so i had a practice today and i was slapping a attack man when scrimmaging. I was wondering if i was slashing because i was being effective but illegal? i have been playing defense 2 years of 3 and i am playing a tougher league this year. So how far can we go for a slap check like i was starting from my waist and hitting the attack mans bottom glove and injuring him so he would let go of the stick. My other question is a couple years ago my school teams best player was playing our ms team league thing for my school. He was going for a one handed scoop and the opposer slashed his arm with the crosse. it was a tomahawk and it broke his arm, the opposer was banned from the game of course for cheap crap. this motivated me and i have been doing it and a week ago in a game i fractured this guys wrist when i legally "mini"-tomahawked him, like the path of my stick was from my stomach down. i hit his wrist hard and cleared the ball and wasnt called for anything but the kid was crying :guns: dont mess with the bonebrakr :agree: :nono: is that illegal? he was a good player and i had to show him whose boss when he decked all our players and nearly gave one a slight concussion ( he is a wee little guy)? answers?
EDIT: i wasnt intending on slashing i was wondering the limits to a long slap check, or in this case stick check. i know slap checks are short choppy checks but i only do that when he is hiding his stick and his bottom hand is the only target.

[Laxattack05]

i always go with either missing the glove, or excessive force as a slash... if we have a kid just hackin on another kids upper arm i call it... go for the gloves... get the ball, dont beat it out of him... or maybe next time, us attackmen will crank shots at your legs...

[3rdPersonPlural]

Technically speaking, if your check contacts ANYTHING except stick or glove it is a slash. Yes, we officials have plenty of lee way on this.

Most officials, needless to say, are a bit more lenient, and give a defender the benefit of the doubt if the check was clean and well intentioned and not so physical that it bordered on abusive.

[jharsh#14key]

Yes, we officials have plenty of lee way on this.

Most officials, needless to say, are a bit more lenient, and give a defender the benefit of the doubt if the check was clean and well intentioned and not so physical that it bordered on abusive.

this is where i'm confused on officiating. When i watch High school or College lacrosse games, i see defenders slap check and miss the stick or gloves completely, and there was no slash.

And my coach even told me during practice that if you keep hitting his arm (where the arm pad is) it can be effected for him to lose the ball. And he mentioned nothing about it being a foul.

I always thought that anything above the waist, in front and not in the head was legal. Because the ref's never called it on me, when i hit my defenders shoulder or arms.

What is and isnt legal?

[wolfenburg]

As 3PP said: It is a jugemend call. The rules are saying, that hitting anything else than the stick or the gloved hand, it is a slash, but what started legal ends legal, so if the attacker moves his arm it is his problem....

[Woodenstick]

There are a lot of things that factor into when a slash is called, how hard was the check, where did it land, did the attacker make a move after the check started, how many times you miss the stick/glove, who is the referee, what is the level of play. But if you think that it is a good tactic to beat the arm to get the ball, you are clearly mistaken. Eventually even the most obtuse referee will call it.

[LaxRef]

Eventually even the most obtuse referee will call it.

I'd like to believe that's true. :whyme: