Johns Hopkins @ Duke

[laxmann1993]

#11 Johns Hopkins plays at #2 Duke at 1:00 on ESPNU. My team is going to see it. Its my first major college lacrose game. Is anyone else going? Who do you think will win? I say Duke 11-8.

[sjesuitlax]

i say duke 16-7

[Titanoh]

I say 10-9 John Hopkins in OT.

[navylax161]

14-6 duke. this will be nothing like last years final.

[the next 'one']

i'm going with 12-8 Duke.

[stegmakk]

I say 10-9 John Hopkins in OT.

lol lol lol
You were joking right?
Hopkins staying par with Duke is funny enough...but winning in OT?
they are 0-3 in OT this year...
they don't have the drive/stamina/will/whatever you want to call it...
If you simply said Hop 10-9 I would have left it alone...but OT...
anyway to each their own...I don't mean to slam you but personally i dont see hop turning around until Navy...especially in OT games

[BLUEJAYSFAN9]

the game is at 6

[HVlaxa7]

14-8 duke. sorry hopkins.

[Prof. Mushroom]

#11 Johns Hopkins plays at #2 Duke at 1:00 on ESPNU. My team is going to see it. Its my first major college lacrose game. Is anyone else going? Who do you think will win? I say Duke 11-8.

Actually, the game is at 6pm.
I am still hoping for Hopkins to pull out the win when no one gives them a chance...especially against a team like Duke. But I really don't see it happening. Gvozden and the Blue Jays D really needs to step up big time....the whole team needs to step it up...they are not playing to the fullest of their abilities. They need to get fired up to have a chance, something they have failed to do over the past few weeks.
Duke wins 13-7.
The Prof.

[spenny]

hopkins, by 3 or more goals. (if gvoz plays well, if he doesnt, duke probably wins)

[cnyminder]

i think duke win 15-7

[QBYattackmen15]

Spenny callin the Upset i like it. but if this is a reg game then hop would have a getter chance. But with The rivalry and Duke really wanting to bury Hopkins more than they wanted to any other team. i have to give the Adv. to Duke. Duke 17-8. if duke wins, its gonna be a blowout cause they wont slow down if they get the lead no matter what. IF hopkins would pull the upset, they will win by 1. or possibly 2.

[oviedolax]

duke is gonna keep scoring till the last minute and embarrass hopkins.

[HoosUrDaddy]

I'm sorry but I want an upset here.

12-10 Hopkins!

[laxmaniac101]

12 - 11 hop

remind you of anything?:agree:

[Tool]

Will this game be nationally televised? (espn1 or 2?)

[Prof. Mushroom]

Will this game be nationally televised? (espn1 or 2?)

The game will air on ESPNU at 6pm tonight.
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?p=1515392#poststop
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?p=1515393#poststop
The Prof.

[LAX MONKEY]

everyone saying upset must be new to the sport. hopkins is 0-3 or 0-4 against ACC teams. and duke is the cream of the crop in the ACC. hopkins maybe able to play with duke for a quarter or so, but after that duke will just clobber them. Like when duke plays one of the lower D1 teams.

[ItalyLaxer11]

wow, i chose to watch this game at my friends house over going to "leatherheads" with my gf. thats devotion. Go Jhu

[laxer6]

Duke 15-8.

[Prof. Mushroom]

everyone saying upset must be new to the sport. hopkins is 0-3 or 0-4 against ACC teams. and duke is the cream of the crop in the ACC. hopkins maybe able to play with duke for a quarter or so, but after that duke will just clobber them. Like when duke plays one of the lower D1 teams.

But thats why it's called an upset, because it seems unlikely to happen....
I'm hoping for a Hopkins win, but I'm not so sure that will happen with the way they have been playing as of late. I hope I am wrong though.
The Prof.

[laxkid44]

Duke is going to win easy. i am a Cuse fan but Duke should definitely be ranked number 1. 19-10 Duke

[sjesuitlax]

can someone with espnu put up updates?

[OJRlax]

seriously, any updates?

[sirlaxalot125]

6-4 duke in the 2nd

[Laxmann019]

6-4 duke at the moment guys.^ posted right before i did:crying: . but still 6-4 with 2 min left in the half.

[sirlaxalot125]

7-4 Brad Ross EMO after Evans slashed. 1:51 left in half

[TigerLax29]

8-4 now

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/scoreboard

Almost halfway down.

[Midman03]

any updates?

[TrapDoor]

9-4 now, 3rd quarter. Duke's got this one.


EDIT: ESPN.com just re-updated, now they're saying it's 14-5.

Woah.

[sirlaxalot125]

14-5 duke, beginning of the 4th
Bocklet had a sick corner pick with his pole.

[gobells34]

15-6 Duke

11:20 to go

[MiddieMan05]

when i first read the score as 6-4 duke, i thought there might have been a slim chance of a comeback, but now its just embarrassing.

[gobells34]

when i first read the score as 6-4 duke, i thought there might have been a slim chance of a comeback, but now its just embarrassing.

and getting worse

Duke 17
JHU 6

4:00 left

[SCLax86]

duke needed that gtown wake-up call, now they know they actually have to try to win, now everyone is really screwed

[sirlaxalot125]

Duke wins 17-6

[valax16]

Wow, longest losing streak in Hopkin's history.

[QBYattackmen15]

duke needed that gtown wake-up call, now they know they actually have to try to win, now everyone is really screwed

perfect staement lol. they know now that they can be beaten. Duke really hustled on every GB and worked hard on offense and defense. good for them. on the hopkins side. 5 in a row. Not good.3-5. Future is also looking bleak. Still rough on defense with late slides.(look at all 3 Crotty goals) Also on offense. Lack of Fundamentals. Missed Passes. a lot of them. got beat on GB's. who knows what happens or if they even make the tounament.

[spenny]

everyone saying upset must be new to the sport. hopkins is 0-3 or 0-4 against ACC teams. and duke is the cream of the crop in the ACC. hopkins maybe able to play with duke for a quarter or so, but after that duke will just clobber them. Like when duke plays one of the lower D1 teams.

yeaaa, is this the game with the brooms and the ice?

apparently gvozden played extremely poorly. i'm shocked by the score, not that duke ran it up, but that hopkins couldnt even keep it close. i thought that they could have at least been competitive.

as valax said, longest losing streak in team history.

[cnyminder]

Hopkins is horrible this year.

[mullengoal141]

Hopkins is missing something.

its not personnel, nor is it coaching, because lets face it. petrois hardly ever outcoached, even in a loss.

it's heart.

they don't scrap. they don't hustle. sure they made a few big hits this game and it was a physical one, but there was a lack of something. that grit where you fight and fight. where you don't blow the slide. where you pick up that groundball.

everyone get me on that?
they simply have lost the determination, attitude, swagger and especially heart.

i'm not a big fan of good ole hop. but i anyone can tell when a team looks like they're just going through the motions.

[laxer6]

All Hopkins fans on the boards after the first few losses kept repeating we turn it up in May. That's what the players were thinking too. I agree with Mullengoal, Hopkins has no heart. I never thought this senior class would run through the motions but thats what they have done. I don't care if their losses are "quality losses" they have lost 5 times. This team should not be in the tournament, but someone in that really wants to be there.

[FitzGoalie]

I covered this game for Lax.com, and i have to say, hopkins looks rough. They are quickly becoming what 'Cuse was last year. I thought that their pre-season ranking was ridiculously high coming into this year, but i never thought they would be this miserable. i think it's easy for people to blame the recent failures on Michael Gvozden, but the Defense was NOT helping him at all today; a ton of shots came from in tight. Of course, it's always difficult to play against the best team in College lacrosse, but 11 goals is just ridiculous. Hopkins is in the pits right now, and i don't see them getting out any time soon this season.

[laxer6]

Duke is the best team in college lacrosse but this is still the same defense that shut down Greer and Danowski last year.

[Greg.]

Yea I am really unimpressed with Hopkins this season they really don't have someone in the cage to pull it together like Schwartzman was able to do for the team.

[laxer6]

It's not just the defense though. This offense put up 6 goals against Duke, and 7 I believe against Hofstra. I don't know what their problem is but IL gave Hopkins midfield the edge in the scouting report and Dukes flat out killed them tonight.

[valax16]

Hopkins is missing something.

its not personnel, nor is it coaching, because lets face it. petrois hardly ever outcoached, even in a loss.

it's heart.

they don't scrap. they don't hustle. sure they made a few big hits this game and it was a physical one, but there was a lack of something. that grit where you fight and fight. where you don't blow the slide. where you pick up that groundball.

everyone get me on that?
they simply have lost the determination, attitude, swagger and especially heart.

i'm not a big fan of good ole hop. but i anyone can tell when a team looks like they're just going through the motions.

I agree, they have a bunch of talent, just after those first 3 OT losses I think they have sort of given up. I mean 3 losses is discouraging but to have all 3 of them in OT (in a row) is even worse. It's a horrible feeling to loose in overtime. Maybe they'll get it together next year.

[Titanoh]

lol lol lol
You were joking right?
Hopkins staying par with Duke is funny enough...but winning in OT?
they are 0-3 in OT this year...
they don't have the drive/stamina/will/whatever you want to call it...
If you simply said Hop 10-9 I would have left it alone...but OT...
anyway to each their own...I don't mean to slam you but personally i dont see hop turning around until Navy...especially in OT games
I see what your saying, I just felt that they would have the drive to win this one. Not really sure why I said OT though...

[Prof. Mushroom]

What an embarrassing loss...
I believe Mullen pretty much nailed it. The talent is definitely there. There is no doubt about that. But there is no drive, no fire lit under them. It seems they too started to think that everything would be alright, and since they're Hopkins there are no worries. It would be just like last year where they dropped a couple games, but picked it up and won 9 straight on the way to the championship. They had better get there act together soon...though it might even be too late.
The Prof.

[laxer6]

I think it already is too late. They can beat a Reed-less Maryland at home but they can't beat Navy they way they are playing. Even if they do run the table and make the tournament they won't be seeded. Your talking about running a possible match up with UNC,Syracuse,Virginia or even Duke in the second round.

[spartacus9]

As much as I dislike hopkins, those throwback jerseys were sick.

[navylax161]

another weak game from paul rabil. am i surprised? not at all.

what happened to the D that shut down dano and greer? they each scored seven points. gvodzen isnt living up to his expectations. the offense has no spark. hopkins does not deserve to make the tournament at all.

[WNYlaxrat99]

I cant believe how Hopkins is doing this yr. I was so looking forward to them taking over again. I am sure they will get into the tourney and obvi they will make it to at least the final 8 teams.

I think they just play the toughest schedule and its not always possible to go a flul season losing only 1 or 2 games against the teams they play. Look at how Cuse has had some just ok records going into the tourney and then made the Final 4. I would still watch out for the Hop and bet that no team is excited about playing them still.

[sjesuitlax]

Duke is the best team in college lacrosse but this is still the same defense that shut down Greer and Danowski last year.

the same defense that just lost to them 17-6. and let greer score 6 goals on their goalie. i think hopkins is this years 2007 Syracuse.

[LaxDog3]

I was at the game.
During the 1st quarter, Hopkins looked like they might make a game of it. Hopkins outshot Duke by a wide margin and looked fired up. Duke came back in the second quarter and I think Hopkins' confidence started to waver. I cannot remember a particular play that might have turned it. Maybe it was Crotty's goals from an inverted set that Hopkins did not have an answer for either defensively or offensively. Anyway, when the third quarter opened, Duke just ripped JHU's heart out. The game was over in the third. It was pretty cold-blooded and methodical. Duke didn't run-up the score like they might have and the bench got playing time.

I think that Hopkins is dead and Duke just buried them for the remainder of the season. Kudos, though, to the Hopkins fans that travelled down to see the game. They're much better than Carolina fans. :)

[FitzGoalie]

the same defense that just lost to them 17-6. and let greer score 6 goals on their goalie. i think hopkins is this years 2006 Syracuse.

2006? 2007...

[sjesuitlax]

2006? 2007...

oh yeah my bad.

[laxer6]

Yet again I agree with Navylax. If Hopkins makes this tournament it really is a shame. I would much rather see multiple patriot league teams than a team with no heart make it just because who they are.

[laxmann1993]

It was a good game to see. I thought Hopkin's jerseys looked terrible. Also, why did Duke warm up in Kings and play on their Exo2s.

[THE_1protector]

wow say goodbye to the championships hopkins.

[moondog]

wow say goodbye to the championships hopkins.

Yeah--I don't see JHU contending for the title in May, but let's not forget that Cuse made it all the way to the title game in 1999 as a #8 seed. They had quite a few losses, too. Of course, there's the "Syracuse" factor, and that mystique. Of course, the 2000 team is to this day the biggest and baddest NCAA lacrosse team I have ever seen--so you can't always be too quick to write them off for a couple years. (Of course Cuse might have been "adjusting" to Desko taking over for Roy Jr., and they didn't have Springer or Glatzel due to academic issues)

That said--whoever posted that they "don't have the heart," etc--that post immediately made me think about what a guy like Benson Irwin brought to those teams a few years ago...

Wonder who will take the leadership role with this situation they are in...

[WezAlmighty]

Who have JHU lost this year to graduation aside from schwartzman?

[laxer6]

They lost 3 starters, Jake Byrne, Brendan Skadari(?) and Schwartzman.

[WezAlmighty]

So really its pretty much the same squad they won last year with =/

[spenny]

They lost 3 starters, Jake Byrne, Brendan Skadari(?) and Schwartzman.

skakandi (who's working for IL now)

So really its pretty much the same squad they won last year with =/

dont underestimate the importance of leadership. hopkins lost 3 very important leaders of the team

[laxer6]

Those are 3 3 year starters they lost. Skakandi and Byren were captains, I am not to sure about Schwartzman but than again he won 2 M.O.P. awards. They didn't lose a huge number of guys but these guys were high quality.

[manup5183]

Looking at the JHU roster its hard to say that they aren't talented, but the loss of great leaders, and the over-hype they received in the pre season really punched this squad, and it looks like Hopkins is just realizing and it suprises them.