Paul Rabil a sore loser?

[Laxking31]

This is what I heard from my coach and Kevin Unterstein. Kevin Unterstein who went to my school and now plays for hofstra covered Paul Rabil the other day. He shut down Rabil. No goals, no assists and supposedly didnt touch the ball much. Then Rabil started trash talking and cursing at him and quote, " Maybe you can come by later and polish my rings." Real classy

This is just what I heard from Kevin who I would consider a very reliable source

[laxer6]

Hm talking trash when a second tier team(Hofstra is don't argue it) is beating you and your being shut down. I can honestly see it though.

[Laxking31]

Are you kidding me. Trash talking anytime just shows no class. You can be upset but you dont have to be a dirt bag. He's arguably the best middy in college, he should be a role model and show some maturity

[QBYattackmen15]

hes not the best middie in college...thats first off. He didnt say it was right also, he just said he could see it happening. As could I. Though trash talkign is low, i could totally see him doing it. But i mean TBO, everyone is a sore loser if your really competitive, he just happened to express it in the "wrong" way.

[laxkid44]

^ totally agreed. trash talk is definitely not needed. you need to be a good loser and a good winner. Paul Rabil should definitely not get caught trash talking, because he is a role-model for so many young lax players out there including myself.

[Laxking31]

hes not the best middie in college...thats first off. He didnt say it was right also, he just said he could see it happening. As could I. Though trash talkign is low, i could totally see him doing it. But i mean TBO, everyone is a sore loser if your really competitive, he just happened to express it in the "wrong" way.

I said he is arguably the best middie. I dont think that there is anything that justifies trash talking. It's just a game

[big52daddy10]

somehow i cant see rabil acting like that without some provocation by the hofstra guys...ten to one thats what happened...i mean, rabil is not known for being a dirt bag. i could see him acting like that given the situaton if provoked

[spyopticgoggles]

I also heard this through the grapevine, and i could believe it but it is low. i would probably end of doing it, though, because im very competitive like Rabil.

[Laxking31]

somehow i cant see rabil acting like that without some provocation by the hofstra guys...ten to one thats what happened...i mean, rabil is not known for being a dirt bag. i could see him acting like that given the situaton if provoked

That may be true. But it was deffininately Unterstein that said anything. U nterstein is just not that type of guy

[HdGLaxWarrior]

I also heard this through the grapevine, and i could believe it but it is low. i would probably end of doing it, though, because im very competitive like Rabil.

trash talking and being competitive are not related in anyway.

[QBYattackmen15]

I dont think that there is anything that justifies trash talking. It's just a game

i didnt say their was...

all i meant ws i could see it happening. Trash talk is just apart of the game whether or not its good or bad. it happens. people do it to me. Paul Rabil is a serious athlete/competitor. They do occasionally do stuff liek this liek we all do.

[spyopticgoggles]

trash talking and being competitive are not related in anyway.

if your team is losing badly to a team you could easily beat, and you are competitive, you will get angry and this could lead to trash talking.

[lax-crazy]

do you know if the man covering him was talking trash to? I mean if someone "is" playin dirty (I am not saying that the guy is/was) or very physical trash talking starts to come about.

[Laxking31]

do you know if the man covering him was talking trash to? I mean if someone "is" playin dirty (I am not saying that the guy is/was) or very physical trash talking starts to come about.

Yea .I know but I can guaruntee that Kevin Unterstein( the player covering Rabil) was not trash talking. Hes not like that. Hes a classy player

[roycegracie47]

trash talking and being competitive are not related in anyway.

No, but frustration can make for ugly things no matter how competitive one is, and it's not always excusable when certain things come out wrong.

Personally I wouldn't think that Rabil would be this type of person, maybe frustration brought it about or maybe that's the type of guy he is. In a similar manner I got to experience at a summer tourney last year similar behavior out of several current Duke players including Matt Danoswki. The first game of the tourney (WATS '07) was an all Duke team versus my club's A team. Everyone who played in the game or watched on the sidelines had the same thing to say, the Duke players ran their mouths and acted like they were entitled (although since they won I guess that would make them sore winners, needless to say the re-match in the tourney playoffs was a more physical game). Now maybe this could have been a one time thing, maybe what Rabil did was a one time thing, but actions on the field like that leave indelible impressions on fans and foes alike.

[Laxking31]

No, but frustration can make for ugly things no matter how competitive one is, and it's not always excusable when certain things come out wrong.

Personally I wouldn't think that Rabil would be this type of person, maybe frustration brought it about or maybe that's the type of guy he is. In a similar manner I got to experience at a summer tourney last year similar behavior out of several current Duke players including Matt Danoswki. The first game of the tourney (WATS '07) was an all Duke team versus my club's A team. Everyone who played in the game or watched on the sidelines had the same thing to say, the Duke players ran their mouths and acted like they were entitled (although since they won I guess that would make them sore winners, needless to say the re-match in the tourney playoffs was a more physical game). Now maybe this could have been a one time thing, maybe what Rabil did was a one time thing, but actions on the field like that leave indelible impressions on fans and foes alike.

Very true. I'm not just trying to make Rabil look bad. I'm saying that any of these college players should be role models and show some class. I'm very surprised that danowski would trash talk though...

[Warrior5]

Yea .I know but I can guaruntee that Kevin Unterstein( the player covering Rabil) was not trash talking. Hes not like that. Hes a classy player

Laxking, this is just you want to bash Rabil. Honestly who cares.. people talk trash all the time. It's part of the game. The worlds greatest athletes talk trash and its even worse in contact sports. If you all are going to get so bent out of shape about a Rabil talking to trash(which is just hear-say) then don't even play a sport or compete in anything.

[LAX MONKEY]

was anyone acctualy on the field and heard this? I'm by no means a hopkins fan, infact i dispise them, but this sounds alot like someone is trying to ruin a great players reputaution.

[snafoo]

Trust me, its true. I've heard this from several teams he has played against this year and it seems likes he's just a sore loser. I've heard the "polish my rings" line from at least three guys that have guarded him along with other cheeseball lines.

[Laxking31]

was anyone acctualy on the field and heard this? I'm by no means a hopkins fan, infact i dispise them, but this sounds alot like someone is trying to ruin a great players reputaution.

Yea thats exactly what I want to do. I'm just here to ruin the guys career.

[CoUgArLAX18]

Alot of players talk trash when they get frustrated. He isn't used to being held to 0 points.

[roycegracie47]

Very true. I'm not just trying to make Rabil look bad. I'm saying that any of these college players should be role models and show some class. I'm very surprised that danowski would trash talk though...

I didn't say you were. I am in no ways a Duke fan, and even I was surprised to see it with my own 2 eyes and ears (I was on the sidelines myself with the B Team, who I traveled with) because I didn't think he was that type of guy either.

Again, we don't know whether they are like this all the time, or whether things like this are brought on by competitive nature and/or frustration. That's why it shocks us, because we expect them to be role models and again why seeing or hearing the worst from the players in the spot light galvanizes feelings. Those that don't like a guy have more ammo to that fact, fans feel let down by actions they don't think the guy is capable of.

[Laxking31]

Well if Snafoo is right, and he does say this a lot, then this obviously is his personality and not just a one time deal caused by frustration

[LAX MONKEY]

Yea thats exactly what I want to do. I'm just here to ruin the guys career.

Thats acctualy a terrible thing to do, and you say he's classless for trash talk.....

[Laxking31]

Thats acctualy a terrible thing to do, and you say he's classless for trash talk.....

I'm being sarcastic and I hope you are too...

[lax-crazy]

its even worse in contact sports.


good thing there is no contact in lacrosse, for a while I was wondering what was knocking me over from my blind side, but after reading that I came to the conclusion that it has to be the wind. After all there is no contact in lacrosse.

[HdGLaxWarrior]

if your team is losing badly to a team you could easily beat, and you are competitive, you will get angry and this could lead to trash talking.

no, that just means your a sore loser.

[AttackMan18]

It's just one time.
I bet almost everyone has talked a little trash(just a little) before.
IDK, Paul Rabil isn't playing that weel this year.
I think he just doesn't have enough whip in his stick like he did last year

[lsilaxer131]

who really cares? when your gettin beaten with a stick all game you tend to not be in the best mood, and might say some things to your opponent. its the nature of the game. so what if paul rabil told some kid from hofstra to polish his rings? if hofstra had won a few he wouldn't have been able to say that. this really seems like an effort to take a shot at rabil. i dont think i have ever played a lacrosse game where there wasnt trash being talked. its called trying to get into your opponents head. if you dont want trash talking try playin checkers fellas.

[lebolax44]

nah i beleive it. i heard from a kid he went to highschool with that hes basically a douche. i beleive it. i mean you go to hopkins, you know your good, and you just won a championship. word on the street is hes very cocky, too.

[MAlax42]

Do you guys ever read what you're posting?

Seriously, how could ANYONE care about this? The guy talked some smack to a defender. STOP THE PRESSES! THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF LACROSSE!

Honestly. This is as bad as the morons who follow Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan's every move. How could this possibly impact anyone on these forums?

[lsilaxer131]

thank you MAlax42 for having some sense

[QBYattackmen15]

Do you guys ever read what you're posting?

Seriously, how could ANYONE care about this? The guy talked some smack to a defender. STOP THE PRESSES! THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF LACROSSE!


Perfect. MAlax42 got it right.

As i said in a previous post, its part of the game,whether you like it or not or whether its right or wrong. Put yourself in his shoes(even though thats impossible to fathom)You were Ranked the #1 player in NCAA Men's D1 Lacrosse playing for the #1 team in the nation. Youve got 2 NCAA Championship Rings on your finger. Both of which you had a decent sized part of winning. Right now, you are getting shut-out by a un-ranked Hofstra team that can be considered "second-Tiered". Frustration is bound to set in fast and hard. And Trash talk is not a far reach once you hit that point.

Please no on Quote this and say, "Well it doesnt matter, i wouldnt trash talk anyway thats just low and cheap and blah blah blah." Because none of you can even get close to feeling the pressure and the expectations that are laid upon his shoulders. For the record, i hate Hopkins, ive been a Duke fan since i was a kid because my Uncle went the Duke. Therefore ive always sorta despised Hopkins because of the Rivalry. But honestly guys, throw the guy a bone, give him a break.

[nhlax02]

yeah seriously this has been takin way too far

[StallionsLax08]

It's just a game

I disagree, IMHO lacrosse is a lifestyle.

Trash talking here and there doesn't really bother me being said my be or being said by anyone else.

[Eclipse]

Does Unterstein know your telling people he heard this or said that about Rabil?

Secondly, I am not saying I promote it, but understand in college trash talk is about as consistent as it gets. Even at the Division 3 level, kids are insanely competitive, and will do whatever it takes to get inside your head, beat you down, or just demean you to get a mental edge. Alot of players are not like this, but at the same time, alot of them are.

In talking with kids on my team who have transferred from Division One programs, the general consensus is that a majority of the kids playing at that level, are the most competitve people in the world, and in some cases downright insane. I can only imagine it gets taken to the next level on that scene.

The point is, Rabil could be a great guy, maybe he was just trying to get in his head, was frustrated, a little upset, whatever, the stuff happens. A lot of those guys are so successful because they carry themselves with a little swagger, and know that they are the best. I wouldn't look too into it.


Side note: MALax42 for president.

[Laxattack05]

i think the thing about trash talk is it seems to make you a ton less classy of a player... you can get alot of respect by playing well. but you can also get that same amount of respect by just being a nice guy... personally, i go with the FDR Reasoning, plus a little of my own jazz.

"Speak softly, and carry a short stick."

[manup5183]

Not every college player is Mr. Perfect. They get the job done though. Coaches are all for developing their boys into men but they want that championship. I say this because at a camp I attended (who's name wont be stated) I saw various top level players (who's names wont be stated) speaking to other college players about pull strings and how to make sure they don't get caught. I talked one on one with a U.S. National team member (who's name wont be stated) about trash talk. He was absolutely for it, he talked about the really competitive college games and how they became more exciting when their was talking going on. I truly am not lying, I would have no reason to.

As for my stance, I have not really engaged in trash talk because the teams I have played are made up of nice guys. Even in close rival games their is complementing going on. I didn't even hear any trash talking when I played at Vail last summer. If someone were to start it than I think we would get pissed and talk back.

[Prof. Mushroom]

personally, i go with the FDR Reasoning, plus a little of my own jazz.

"Speak softly, and carry a short stick."

Actually, that would be the other President Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt.
The Prof.

[AttackMan18]

Not every college player is Mr. Perfect. They get the job done though. Coaches are all for developing their boys into men but they want that championship. I say this because at a camp I attended (who's name wont be stated) I saw various top level players (who's names wont be stated) speaking to other college players about pull strings and how to make sure they don't get caught. I talked one on one with a U.S. National team member (who's name wont be stated) about trash talk. He was absolutely for it, he talked about the really competitive college games and how they became more exciting when their was talking going on. I truly am not lying, I would have no reason to.

As for my stance, I have not really engaged in trash talk because the teams I have played are made up of nice guys. Even in close rival games their is complementing going on. I didn't even hear any trash talking when I played at Vail last summer. If someone were to start it than I think we would get pissed and talk back.

You talking about the guys at the Worstell Camp?

[Warrior5]

Actually, that would be the other President Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt.
The Prof.

Lol I was about to say that and its actually big stick, not short stick

[Warrior5]

I can't believe everyone is this worked up about someone "talking trash" when no one even witnessed it. It's kinda sad actually. Do you get this mad when your white socks get dirty from playin on a muddy field? I hope you guys dont have role models in sports because a lot of really good athletes talk trash. and by the way, ever heard the term "what happens on the field stays on the field?" that right there lets you know you shouldnt judge someone by how the conduct themselves during a game

[Prof. Mushroom]

Lol I was about to say that and its actually big stick, not short stick

I believe the reason he said "short stick" is because he was referring to Unterstein who is a short stick middie. Thus the reason he said personally, i go with the FDR [Teddy] Reasoning, plus a little of my own jazz.

"Speak softly, and carry a short stick."
The Prof.

[manup5183]

You talking about the guys at the Worstell Camp?

I would never do anything to jeopardize the legitimacy of Peter Worstell's camp. I contribute so much of my successes to that place. And I personally am grateful for being invited to the gold recruiting camp he is holding. The camp where I heard my information or the players who stated it isn't the point. I was just announcing that trash talk isnt anything to cry about and I was providing examples to prove my point.

I still thought the players were awesome guys and I do not at all think less of them. They are amazing to watch and they deserve credit for all the hard work they have put into lacrosse. I could care less if in the heat of the moment, some words slipped. Its simply male nature.

[soclax15]

I played against Rabil for 3 years in HS, he's always talked trash, especially when things aren't necessarily going his way. However, who is anybody to assume that this makes him a bad guy? I certainly wouldn't want a bunch of people who've never met me to assume I'm a slimeball because I talked some trash in a lacrosse game. Secondly, this is a lacrosse player we're talking about. Is it that surprising that a lacrosse player may talk trash or be a little bit of a dirt bag? This shocks people? We have a reputation, and for the most part with good reason.

[merrychristmas]

Trash Talkers. How do you feel about Michael Jordan and Larry Bird? And that is just a start. I am sure Unterstein was not talking to him about Hofstra being ahead after the first period because he is just to much of a gentleman on the field.

Rabil is the best middie in the country if you want to measure best by titles, personal awards, team achievements or the next MLL draft.

I would rather have a sore loser than a sore winner.

[Laxattack05]

Lol I was about to say that and its actually big stick, not short stick


yeah hence a little of my own jazz...

and with the FDR vs teddy roosevelt... sorry kids... i go to school in IDAHO...
but it was just a typo on my part...

[CTWavelax]

trash talking is part of the game..sorta intimidation i guess...the guy is frustrated and is use to getting a lot of goals and in the hofstra game maybe he didnt get as many as he had planned..and so a couple of words come out of his mouth that are (offensive) i guess...but im sure all of you have trash talked at one point...thisi is a pointless thread

[laxer6]

Saying "how about you polish my rings" to a kid that is dominating you isn't intimidation it's a lack of class. And if he was trying to intimidate him it apparently didn't work.

[Laxking31]

Saying "how about you polish my rings" to a kid that is dominating you isn't intimidation it's a lack of class. And if he was trying to intimidate him it apparently didn't work.

Thank you. Someone has brains. I realize that it may be part of the game. But why? Its just a game. Just act classy and have fun. You shouldnt destroy your reputation over something so stupid

[thor of the kop]

Are you kidding me. Trash talking anytime just shows no class. You can be upset but you dont have to be a dirt bag. He's arguably the best middy in college, he should be a role model and show some maturity

i going to have to agree. i do like him, but trash talking just doesnt show class.

[JHU Jays girl]

okay. i'm not going to defend Rabil b/c i'm a Hop fan. i totally understand that people would expect more from a role model. but if a thread about THIS is gonna get so fired up, i may as well start a thread called 'OMG! college lax player Travis Reed smokes WEED! can you BELIEVE IT?!'
besides, ever wonder why when they wire a football player on gameday they only use 25 seconds of audio that probably lasts about 2 hours? and why do you think Zidane and Materazzi got it on during the world cup? and they;re two of the biggest names for soccer fans everywhere.
getting back on lacrosse.. you're gonna tell me straight up that you've never talked b.s. to other fans about your favorite lax team? just cos it's not on a field doesn't mean it's not trash talking....

[navylax161]

im not sticking up for him, but hes not the only lacrosse player in college who talks trash. hes so under the limelight that its a big deal for us. if you are going to talk trash though, dont say anything about having the guy polish your rings. thats probably the lamest thing ive ever heard.

[laxer6]

You can't talk trash to a kid that is straight up killing you though.Unterstein is one of the top d middies in the game and he deserves respect. If Unterstein was talking trash to Rabil a lot more people would be ripping Unterstein for being a bad sport.

[laxmiddy92]

well, he can paly offense which is aobut all hes good for petramala pulled him from the starting line up, due to vry obvious reasons look at their record hges not that great, a great middy is someone he cna play offense and defense not jsut one

[merrychristmas]

Rabil plays both. Better study up my man.

[chrismpell]

Saying Rabil inst one of the top middies (Not the best) you are just fooling yourself.

[navylax161]

Rabil plays both. Better study up my man.

not in that game. rabil was getting shut down. also unterstein is probably the best SSDM in college lax.

[merrychristmas]

Two different issues aren't they? Rabil plays good defense when he plays defense. Hopkins runs a defensive midfield to keep its first team midfield fresher. So in any game they will play him if they have to. He is not a SSM. So it depends on how the faceoffs and game situations develop.

BTW speaking of trash what kind of cheap shot was Navy #26 (?) delivering Saturday in the first quarter to Huntley. TV showed it several times during the game? Very late hit.

[Crew_Socks]

I love rumors spread throughout the grapevine. 99% of the people on here have never met him or his family. There is nothing wrong with that at all, but it is much different when you have actually met him, and not heard a "probably exaggerated story" through the grapevine. Obviously he is a super competitive guy, or he wouldnt be where he is today. To say none of you have ever let your emotions get the best of you, especially in a contact sport is ridiculous...

[middyman911]

This seems to me like two good, competitive lacrosse players running their mouths like many people do. So what if he talked a little trash? Who hasn't? However I am not saying this is a good thing and should be accepted im just saying that when you put that many competitive athletes on the same field, there is bound to be some talk, and we really shouldnt dwell on it. He's probably had a very frustrating season as well so keep that in mind. Oh by the way I am not a hopkins fan

[PowPow]

Ive never been a fan of Rabil.

In the fall/winter, Kyle Harrison would come shoot with me and my cousins team and just about all fall and winter only once did Rabil show up, every other weekend he was too tired or hungover. And when he was out, he was pretty ignorant about it. Just went through the motions in the drills and pegged the ball at us all day when Harrison did everythinggreat, i really loved hopkins until harrison left. UMBC ftw.

Rabils taking all his attention a little too serious if hes saying "polish my rings"

[Lacr0sse15]

i've been at a clinic with rabil and he seemed pretty cool to me and my friends. he even stayed after to help us out and talk to us a little. and as for the talking; who doesn't talk at least a little trash? its not like hes starting fights or anything. and besides the 'polish my rings' is a pretty good one...

[Dub C lacrosse]

i've been at a clinic with rabil and he seemed pretty cool to me and my friends. he even stayed after to help us out and talk to us a little. and as for the talking; who doesn't talk at least a little trash? its not like hes starting fights or anything. and besides the 'polish my rings' is a pretty good one...

True.

I trash talk and will admit it. :bye:

If you have never made a comment to a player on the other team, where is your team spirit? :agree:
I bet most of you guys denying you have never talked have. And i have too.

Now Rabil is a different story. He is a excellent player, and shouldn't need to talk to show up someone. If he does it the way it should, he would make his talent speak for him.

As for me, im just a rebel, aren't I.

[QBYattackmen15]

True.

I trash talk and will admit it. :bye:

If you have never made a comment to a player on the other team, where is your team spirit? :agree:
I bet most of you guys denying you have never talked have. And i have too.

Now Rabil is a different story. He is a excellent player, and shouldn't need to talk to show up someone. If he does it the way it should, he would make his talent speak for him.

As for me, im just a rebel, aren't I.

not a rebel, but someone who speaks the truth about themsleve and should be flamed for it(you have now recieved the OFFICIAL flame proof protection by QBYattackmen15) but as for another response from me about this, do i trash talk? no. because i dont talk at all during games. so their ya go. but for Rabil, yeah hes a role model, and a great player, but who really cares if he talks trash??? the community that is TLF as a whole really wouldnt have known if this thread was never made. i could really give a crap if he talks trash. Im a Duke fan and by what i hear, they talk alot of it. but tis not me, and im not in the situation, but agian,,,who cares if he talks trash? its not a big deal.

[ItalianStallion]

nothing against unterstien but why would you complain and go telling that someone trashtalked you.. it dosent matter

[AttackTC]

I agree, trash talking is a common thing at all levels of lax, even more so at the collegiate and professional ranks. Rabil can talk all he wants, he does have more rings and no offense to Unterstein, is a much better player. Unterstein however can giggle when eating his cherrios since they won the game. Trash talking is a part of any sport and I personally love getting into it with the other team. Kevin should've come up with some clever one liners to throw back at him.

[ruggierolax4]

I disagree, IMHO lacrosse is a lifestyle.

Trash talking here and there doesn't really bother me being said my be or being said by anyone else.

I agree. The kids i know that talk trash are hardly ever searious, but when your searious its kind of retarded. But still it's part of the game.