Hopkins v. Navy

[laxkid44]

i personally do not like Hopkins at all, and luckily for me, they aren't doing too well. Navy shut down Maryland a couple of weeks ago due to some brilliant defense. Because of Hopkin's lack of offensive production, and Navy's excellent defense, i have Navy defeating Hopkins 7-4.

what do you think?

[Sir Mackel]

It'll be a good game, but your forgetting that Hopkins is coming off a huge win over their rival Maryland, so I say 5-4 Jays.

[navylax161]

navy 8-6. the hopkins offense has been pretty weak all year, and now jordan dinola, maybe the best pole in the country, is matched up on the guy who their offense runs through, kevin huntley. navy also has a deep and talented group of d-middies to match up with rabil and peyser. on the other end, hopkins has a lot of good poles, but gvodzen is really shaky in goal.

[laxkid44]

hey, we will see what happens, hopkins has been in a slump for a while so it may be time for them to step it up. who knows, its not televised, is it? (its not on espnU anyways.)

[Lacrossebum03]

What time and what station is broadcasting this game? I think its time that Hopkins starts playing again. Last year, they sparked up after the Maryland game, pulled it together to take home the title. Hopefully they can keep running it like last year.

Edit: I heard this game is on CBS... Is that true?

[shogunstud31]

Yes Navy did shut down Maryland, but they didn't have Travis Reed. Maryland probably would have won that game had he been playing. Hopkins is coming off a win over Maryland, and realize they can't afford to lose again.

With that said, I think Hopkins will win this game by 3 to 5 goals. Navy winning is definitely a possibility though.

Edit: Noon on CSTV

[laxkid44]

^ just checked lacrossebum. for those of you with time warner cable, this game will be on channels 630 and 663(CBS C). for those with just basic cable (like 80 channels) Duke @ Army is also playing at noon on MSG.

[twistlax22]

i remember at one of the navy camps a coach told me that hopkins was the only team that navy has never beaten (maybe it was just the tourny he was talking about) but yeh i say navy 9-6

[Lacrossebum03]

^ just checked lacrossebum. for those of you with time warner cable, this game will be on channels 630 and 663(CBS C). for those with just basic cable (like 80 channels) Duke @ Army is also playing at noon on MSG.

Thanks. Any idea what channel that is on Directv? I think I have an idea what channel, and you have to pay for it :devil:

[BLUEJAYSFAN9]

610 is cstv

[JHU Jays girl]

i'm fully expecting Navy to bring it today. just hope that Hop is ready to dish it back..

p.s. anyone w/ verizon tv get this channel?

[JHU Jays girl]

6-3 HOP at the half. from what i've heard, both teams have had quite a few scoring chances. i think Navy's penalties might hurt them in the long run if JHU keeps finishing the way they are...

[Prof. Mushroom]

Hopkins wins for the second week in a row. Final Score: 12-5
The Prof.

[laxkid44]

^ man, i missed it, i had to pay for the channel and i missed it.

[TrapDoor]

Navy was shooting horribly, and Gvozden was amazing for JHU. I'd say he had probably at least 17 saves.

[stegmakk]

Navy was shooting horribly, and Gvozden was amazing for JHU. I'd say he had probably at least 17 saves.
Gvozden had 16...while he is playing much better, Im not completely sold...as you pointed out, Navys shots weren't so great...

[laxer6]

I agree with Stegmakk this kid doesn't have me sold at all. Big games against Maryland (without their leading scorer) and Navy aren't going to fool me. Syracuse,Duke and Virginia all have fantastic shooters and that's what Gvozden can not handle. I was hoping not to see JHU in the tournament this year but that's not going to happen,fortunately I don't think they can beat the 3 teams I mention above.

[TIA]

... I don't think they can beat the 3 teams I mention above.
I bet that last year, you thought the same (against Duke, UVa, and Cornell) and probably thought they didn't deserve a 3 seed. That's why they settle it on the field. I'll admit that Delaware did them a huge favor last year, but they beat Duke fair and square. We'll see by Memorial Day.

[laxer6]

The thing about last year as you mentioned was Delaware. Everyone on this board saw the Duke-Cornell game which like either team or not you have to admit was a war. Hopkins had a walk through game against UDel last year. Would they have beat Virginia, I think so. They deserved a high seed last year but I do feel Cornell got snubbed. JHU got very lucky seeing Maryland and Virginia fall in the first round last year.

[Lacrossebum03]

Its time for Hop to make another ridiculous run to the championship again. haha. I was impressed with the victory, they should be able to make this a 5 game win streak into the tourney... hopefully.

[TIA]

We'll see what happens this year. I'll always root for Hopkins, being an alum myself, and I like this upswing they're on right now. If they can finish at 8-5, you're looking at a probable scenario where a top 4 team will have to face them in the quarters.

Story from my Hopkins days: In the 1988 season, Hopkins was coming off a championship season with Quint Kessenich minding the net as a freshman. Before the first game that season, he and two other players trashed the lobby of an apartment building and coach Zimmerman suspended them for the first game against Syracuse and the Gaits. I forget who replaced Quint, but he and the Jays got slaughtered. The reason this came up is that when Hopkins was demolished by Duke earlier this season, I was thinking back as to when they ever lost that badly in any game. They went on to win the remaining games in 88 and got the #2 seed only to lose to UVa in OT in the quarters. IMO, that was one of the strongest teams in their history and yet they didn't get to even make it to the Final Four. The following year, they did make it to the final game only to lose to Syracuse by one. As I've said, let them settle it on the field. This isn't the BCS!

P.S. Apologies to Quint as I didn't mean to bring this up. I've done a lot of dumb things in my life but I wasn't a star athlete and so I got little attention. ;)

[navylax161]

i wasnt all that surprised to come home and see that hopkins won, but 12-5? jesus, thats embarrassing. unfortunately i think were seeing a repeat of last years season. hopkins has arrived. it seems like navy didnt play very well at all though. if it wasnt for army and bucknell losing, theyd be screwed.

[Bluejayfan2]

Agreed,

Hopkins will decide their fate on the field. Three weeks ago I thought this senior class needed to pass the torch before they burned the place to the ground. Selfish play, Individualism ruled. Last week and this week they looked loose and as a result got results from many instead of no results from a few. The last two weeks the few were part of the many. If they play like this and as a team, anything is possible. Glad to see them recover. If they are fortunate to make it to Foxboro, they will have to prove themselves all over again. But let's decide it on the field cause a lot can happen. Just ask the NE Patriots and the NY Giants- Duke - Hopkins????

[Bluejayfan2]

I agree with Stegmakk this kid doesn't have me sold at all. Big games against Maryland (without their leading scorer) and Navy aren't going to fool me. Syracuse,Duke and Virginia all have fantastic shooters and that's what Gvozden can not handle. I was hoping not to see JHU in the tournament this year but that's not going to happen,fortunately I don't think they can beat the 3 teams I mention above.


Hopkins lost to Cuse and Virginia in OT so these could have gone either way. In past years Hopkins were money in OT but they are just not in 2008. Come May that could change. However in their back to back games against NC and Duke, the team was horrific and Govzden was exposed. He clearly was rattled in both games and the big time got to him. Navy and Md attack are not Duke even on a good day so let's not draw too much from these wins just yet. However Hopkins D was on today and the offense is sharing. Results are coming from more than just Rabil, Peyser, and Huntley. By sharing the ball and the opportunities, Hopkins may have a few more weapons unseen in the earlier matchups against Virginia and Cuse. Duke on the other hand would take a special effort. Can't wait for the next two weeks to unfold

[laxer6]

I am so sick of hearing "wait til May" and "but these were close losses" you lost. Gvozden shut down Navy but this just in Navy doesn't have a great offense. If Hopkins faced Syracuse again they would lose. Cuse has a better faceoff unit and Galloway is flat out better than Gvozden. Don't get too excited about 2 straight wins because this team had just lost 5 straight. If this team falls behind quick will Gvozden have the confidance to get them back in it? Will they have the heart to get back in it?

[Bluejayfan2]

I have no argument about the two wins over Navy and MD and am certainly not ready to crown my jays for anything except erratic team of 2008. I admitted that Navy and MD aren't Duke and probably not cuse on attack. Navy in fact looked pathetic on shot quality and overrated.

Hopkins had Cuse by three at different times in the the game but couldn't close it. They had VA by one very late and couldn't close it. Maybe this team can't get it done in OT like previous Hopkins teams or maybe the margin of difference between these three teams is smaller than you think. There is no argument about Hopkins schedule being the toughest but they know that year in and year out. The 5 week stretch was brutal and I thought that they could lose 2 of the 5. No one expected 5 losses but even after this, they have quality wins that are comparable to Syracuse. Cuse lost by the same margin
in OT to VA just like Hopkins except Hopkins played at VA. Cuse didn't play Duke but played Georgetown (overrated) and Cornell (not last years team). Hopkins lost in OT to Hofstra, Cuse, VA, and blown out by NC and Duke.

Hopkins has a different look the last two weeks with the ball getting more touches by more players and stronger defensive efforts. Govozden better but not proven yet. I think a Syracuse Hopkins game in late May will make a dandy of a repeat match-up. Don't be so sure about an easy win. I can remember Hopkins smashing Cuse in the 2003 playoffs(I think) only to have the favor returned the next year. May is when teams come to play and if you are a longtime fan of Cuse, you certainly should know that. There have been more than a few seasons when the Orange appeared to struggle early only to rise in May. The same can happen to the Hop.
Good Luck

[Prof. Mushroom]

It'll be interesting to see how high in the rankings they'll jump...considering what happened last week after the win against Maryland...
The Prof.

[BLUEJAYSFAN9]

I am so sick of hearing "wait til May" and "but these were close losses" you lost. Gvozden shut down Navy but this just in Navy doesn't have a great offense. If Hopkins faced Syracuse again they would lose. Cuse has a better faceoff unit and Galloway is flat out better than Gvozden. Don't get too excited about 2 straight wins because this team had just lost 5 straight. If this team falls behind quick will Gvozden have the confidance to get them back in it? Will they have the heart to get back in it?

I like how everyone thinks galloway is a stud, hes good, but he has not impressed me anymore than gvozden. Galloways defense didnt go through a 5 game losing streak and not play to there potential. Half of the time it was gvozden one on one with Ben hunt, or Matt danowski, alot of the goals were from close up.

[laxer6]

I never said he was a stud I said he was flat out better than Gvozden. Galloway's defense didn't go through a 5 game losing streak because they play with heart which I question about Hopkins. Galloway has helped completely turn around his teams defense and all Gvozden has done is been the goalie of the only Hopkins team to ever lose 5 straight.

[bpercival]

I never said he was a stud I said he was flat out better than Gvozden. Galloway's defense didn't go through a 5 game losing streak because they play with heart which I question about Hopkins. Galloway has helped completely turn around his teams defense and all Gvozden has done is been the goalie of the only Hopkins team to ever lose 5 straight.

shut up. Gvozden is nasty its a team as a whole issue. Rabil wasnt putting up the numbers hes expected to was he? Where were all the shots flying from? Its easy to point fingers at people but Gvozden is probably one of the most solid goalies out there.

[laxer6]

First your going to tell me to shut up than your going to call Gvozden one of the most solid goalies out there. That was one of the most idiotic statements i have heard on this board all year long. He has a GAA of 9 and a save percentage of 55. He is not nasty he is mediocre. I have an idea instead of coming on the board and running your teenage mouth to someone that knows what they're talking about how about you learn a little bit about lacrosse. This kid has proved zero at the college level and he can still be a bust. If you would like to learn about solid goalies google these names: Fullerton,Kemp,Loftus,Bickford,Hewit,Adams,Schnied er,Orlando,Scherr.