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ccrnnr9
12-10-2004, 11:04 AM
I recently ordered an ignite and I love it. Its light, sturdy, etc. but it seems to dent pretty easily. No bends and such, but is it for certain that the standard ignite is relative to the F-15 and not the F-10? I have never used an F-15, but from what I hear that are alot more durable and dont dent up that easily. Perhaps it is because I am playing college level which can be more physical than highschool and below? No bends or breaks so far and it is holding up well other than that, just wondering if that is normal?
~Nick

V-cut
12-10-2004, 11:07 AM
your profile says you use a f15.. yet you have never handled one?

the ignite/f15 is a good solid shaft that doesn't put on too many dents, but, of course, will dent if hit right.

RockStar
12-10-2004, 11:25 AM
I don't know anything about the ignite, but the F-15 is good value for the dollar in terms of strength and toughness.

The F-10 however wouldn't stand up for long if you're involved in anything more vigorous than children's or non contact lacrosse.

Just handle one to see what I mean. The F-10 is the same range of "quality" as Warrior's AL2000, STX's AL6000 etc. I don't even like to play non-contact with something that flimsy....it just feels like it's going to bend if I catch a crisp pass!

If you're a box goalie, you might get away with using an F-10 as you don't receive too many stick checks. The trade-off is that you won't be able to throw a meaningful cross check without turning the thing into a U.

For entry level shafts, there is only one in the F-10 price range (i.e. $20 to $30) that will stand up to any kind abuse and that's the DeBeer Triax 6000. These are great, cheap, adequate strength for youth/adolescent lacrosse or even light contact men's lacrosse. The only drawback with the cheap Triaxes is that they're "too heavy" for most of the readers of this message board.....You know the guys I mean, those that would rather spend $100+ on something that will break, just to shave 0.5 to 1 oz vs. the $50 shafts that don't break.

Paul_Gait_RULZ
12-10-2004, 03:37 PM
Well said but I am littlew confused, they must have changed something in their formula, becuase the f-15 wouldn't dent THAT easily, it did, but not that easy, because I know some jr box guys who play strictly attack who have used field f-15 and they weren't that bad, and attack in box means you will get check and dish checks as much as you can, but probably will not be the guy crosschecking when their offense enters your end

ccrnnr9
12-10-2004, 07:46 PM
your profile says you use a f15.. yet you have never handled one?

the ignite/f15 is a good solid shaft that doesn't put on too many dents, but, of course, will dent if hit right.
Well I have F-15 listed because ignite is too long of a word to list on there. I know the ignite is sturdy, but I was just wondering if they usually dented this easily. On the other hand, the stick checks that I have received have been pretty hefty.
~Nick

Lacrosstitute
12-10-2004, 08:13 PM
Ignite- 83000 psi strength. Definitely not an f10. The new f10 is somewhere around 30000. I'm kinda mad at Brine for not making the Supra a c405 like the f22 was. At least my f22 is a c405.

elementsk8r070
12-10-2004, 08:48 PM
my f15 pole has never dented just a bunch of scratches. i thought a normal f15 would be the same but seeing that the ignite is about equivalent to a f15, i guess not

Lax101
12-11-2004, 01:31 PM
Ignite- 83000 psi strength. Definitely not an f10. The new f10 is somewhere around 30000. I'm kinda mad at Brine for not making the Supra a c405 like the f22 was. At least my f22 is a c405.
it isnt? explain?

Lacrosstitute
12-11-2004, 02:42 PM
it isnt? explain?

It's a "Super 7 alloy." Whatever that means. I mean I'm happy about them sending me the Supra instead, but come on, why change the f22? I like how they look a little better, but that kindof pissed me off. I always assumed all f22's were the "c405 extralite" but maybe the normal ones were different?

GCHSLax04
12-11-2004, 02:48 PM
Eh, the 7 Series alloy is pretty good, its what the eurlax shafts are made of and I've always heard good things, its also what the beams on sailboats are made of and those are darn tough.

Lacrosstitute
12-11-2004, 02:50 PM
Well it's light and all, but I really liked my f22. I just haven't used the Supra yet and was wondering why they'd do that.

GCHSLax04
12-11-2004, 02:53 PM
Mmm I'm thinking the compunds were changed. My ignite pole weighs a noticeable amount less than a freinds F15 pole. So something definitly changed, thinner walls maybe?

Lax101
12-11-2004, 02:59 PM
F15's used to be really thick...which is why they were beasts...and why they were on the heavy side.

And regarding F22's...

I'm thinking 7000 series alloy is the supra...and C405 is like 7050?

Lacrosstitute
12-11-2004, 03:18 PM
Well I cant compare my Supra and my f22, the Supra is a shorty. I cant complain, it wont see a lot of use anyway.