Sticking up for Teamates. [Poll]

[goaliegod]

Today i was browsing youtube, and came across this video, http://youtube.com/watch?v=wfPEg9lAonI

It reminded me of one of my 3 games today. My best bud, and my top defender [L5] destroys this cocky kid [A1] from the other team, putting him on his back. A1 gets up and punches L5 in the helmet. Me (a goalie), being myself, run out to him, and body check him even harder than L5. The rest of my team, and the rest of the opposing team run in and there is pushing and shoving, nothing to extreme. Anyway, in the end, A1 gets ejected from the game, and L5 gets USC. Me, getting nothing. The reason i got nothing was because the ball was within a 5 yard radios, making it a legal hit.

So i guess, my question is do you stick up for your teammates? In the video posted above, the goalies teammates come and help him, but the blue guys teammates doing nothing. Tell us some of your stories that you have seen, or heard off.

[cheesehead]

first rule of lacrosse....never, i mean NEVER touch a dpole's goalie

[WinnytheSully]

you don't know what the blue team's coach said, he may have told them to stay or risk suspension

[Bretmac]

ive gotten in fights for my teammates only gotten kicked out 2 times it was sweet

[moondog]

I'll get my revenge by scoring a clutch goal, getting a crucial assist, or laying out their stud (or the initial offender)--and then dramatically rubbing it in, and over-celebrating--I stay within the rules, though--I need to stay in the game, and on the field...

[itsthatkid]

Your a team, act like one. If that means beating the hell out of someone for messing with one of your mates, so be it.

I know I for one am ready to jump in for anybody on my team, on or off the field.

[moondog]

Your a team, act like one. If that means beating the hell out of someone for messing with one of your mates, so be it.

I know I for one am ready to jump in for anybody on my team, on or off the field.

You have a good point, but if you do something and get ejected (especially if you're an important player)--you've played into their game, and they ultimately benefit from your "statement".

In hockey it's different--a 2 minute or 5 minute penalty--small slap on the wrist

In lacrosse you can get ejected--is it worth it? I suppose it's subjective and circumstantial...

[itsthatkid]

I suppose it's subjective and circumstantial...

I guess, in the end, thats what it all comes down to.

[Hounds4life]

yea i would, at the one loyola and cuse game last year when loyola won a cuse player came up and hit a loyola player directly from behind after the ball was gone and another loyola player came up and defended his teammate, and i think thats what every player should do

[thor of the kop]

if a fight breaks out, i do my best to stop it. if my teammate gets cheepshoted, i get even...legaly. 2 weeks ago my gollie got hit after he got rid of the ball. i went out of my way to put that kid on the ground every time the ball was near him.

[AlbanyPower25]

i always protect my goalie idc who that goalie is im playing with

[MDUBlax]

its easy to get back at a midfielder when you get a cheap shot on you or a teammate. a nice hard rip to the stomach or leg does the job perfectly fine, and hurts more then getting punched... not to mention you wont get called for it.

[navylax161]

if it was a situation like in that video maybe, but its really smartest to just stay out of fights. the end situation is bad almost always.

[MiddieMan05]

well i'd get in and help my teammates by trying to stop the fight, but what those white players did in the video was just a bunch of little vay-jay-jay's trying to take on one defenseless player as they all piled on him. I'm fine with a big tussle where there are several players from each team and I'll definately get in to help my teammate if things to get to fighting, but when a team just piles on one player, that just shows how they have NO balls and can only fight when they've got an entire army behind them against one.

[stegmakk]

sticking up for a teammate is one thing...a 10 on one beat down is just classless on the white team...
ref should have ejected every white player that was in the pile up...

[B4LT1M0RE LAXER]

Today our top defender was running down the left sideline with his stick in his right hand...as he held his stick out 3 people came to trap him, he threw the ball to the middie at mid line and he got hit late...broken wrist and a concusion...the refs stopped the game and when he tried to walk it off he fell right down....They stopped the game for 7 minutes and we were on extra man. I scored the goal to put us up 7-6 but man its terrible what happened to my teamate....

[cinc15]

the other day at my game, our faceoff guy dropped one of the other teams midfielders. The kid lost the ball and play went on, then we noticed that their mid was on top of our mid, beating the crap out of him, not to mention our guy was face down from when he'd taken their player out. Benches cleared etc. etc. Now we're not a classless team by any means, and they rushed the field first, but we weren't about to sit but and let one of our teammates get his stuff pushed in. it would have been different if the two of them had been standing up and it was a fair fight, but you can't let what happened in my game go, especially when the refs, who don't particularly love my town, didn't make any attempt to break up the fight right away. What does everyone think?

[atacklax]

Depends. If my teammate throws the first punch without very good provocation, he's on his own. If my teammate is winning a fight, I'll let him handle it. But if I see a teammate being attacked and losing, I'll go help.

[Kr3wLaxUno]

I cant really tell but in that video it looked like the goalie was out of the crease and there was a clean stick check....

I agree with Cheesehead and Albany anyone touches my goalie their other word for butt is grass.. n Yeah ill stick up for my teamates unless their are owning the other kid ill get in there and help them out

[tiplax]

That video is ridiculous. There were 5+ people of the opposing team, and no one stepped in to help their teammate. If that happened on my field, there would be over half my team in there busting heads.

[Jakelax]

haha this happened in my last game, i was filling in on JV for a dude who had shin splint, and we were playing a varsity level team, and this guy whos 6'1 170 or so, comes in a hits our newest and among the smallest players in our organization so hard he rolls out of bounds into his team, where they yell and scream at him. so about five minutes later on a good ole GB the same guy went down for it, and i slashed him pretty good, no call, then i laid into him head first and he left the game. perfect payback with only a 1minute roughness call or whatever.

[Live4It]

I'm more likely to get overly physical, or in a fight with someone, because I'm defending a teammate, than for myself. It's just the way I am, I've always got my teammates' backs.
But naturally, if someone wants to all out fight me, and throws punches, even if I'm not defending a teammate, I'm all over them.

[L4X_M4ST3R]

yea i'm not gonna jump in on a fight thats 10 v 1. its ridiculous that a team would have that many people react like that...

I have my teammates back on and off the field if it means getting my arse kicked so be it but i'm not gonna let just my teammate get his arse kicked. A team is a unit in my opinion one mistake or punch is a mistake or punch to the whole team. Wat i'm saying overall is yes i have my teammates back but if on the field it becomes 10 of my guys against 1 of theirs its not worth getting ejected at t hat point i'm pulling people off no matter who started it or who did what.

[TownieLax]

that's ridiculous, they should have been forced to forfeit in my opinion. a friend of mine got his leg purposely stepped on after taking a hit for no reason at all so i ran over and checked the kid completely legally. when a half a team attacks one defenseless player, that is crossing the line. personally, i would have ran across the field and smashed on that whole white team

[Boilanger]

I wouldn't have jumped into such a one sided fight like that unless it was my team-mate being jumped.

I am very defensive of my goalie through habit though, I played soccer before I started lax and in my goalie were ever kicked or hit/stepped on, whatever, the kid that did it would be on the ground as soon as I got over there. Usually it would all be legal also because my goalie would drop the ball before I got there, so it's kinda just me pushing the kid off it.

[TigerLax29]

You need more options on the poll because it's really subjective what "stick up for" means.

The scenario goaliegod gave wasn't sticking up for anyone, it was being a hothead and could have been potentially damaging to your team. So your longpole got punched in the helmet? Who cares. It's a helmet. Did it hurt him? If you would have been smart and not reacted your team would have been at an advantage but you got either no advantage or less of an advantage because you felt the need to what, defend a teammate's honor?

I've been punched in games and taken a lot of other cheapshots and I'd much rather walk away and score a goal on EMO then react to the guy. It's simple self control. If someones going after my teammate, I'll step in if he is going to get hurt but only to stop it. I'm not going to go after anyone. If someone gets all pissed off and takes a swing at me, I think it's funny.

The "if anyone touches my goalie, I'll kill them" thing is dumb. If he doesn't want to get hit he needs to stay off the field or keep himself inside the circle. Once he comes out he's just another player.

[goaliegod]

You need more options on the poll because it's really subjective what "stick up for" means.

The scenario goaliegod gave wasn't sticking up for anyone, it was being a hothead and could have been potentially damaging to your team. So your longpole got punched in the helmet? Who cares. It's a helmet. Did it hurt him? If you would have been smart and not reacted your team would have been at an advantage but you got either no advantage or less of an advantage because you felt the need to what, defend a teammate's honor?

I've been punched in games and taken a lot of other cheapshots and I'd much rather walk away and score a goal on EMO then react to the guy. It's simple self control. If someones going after my teammate, I'll step in if he is going to get hurt but only to stop it. I'm not going to go after anyone. If someone gets all pissed off and takes a swing at me, I think it's funny.

The "if anyone touches my goalie, I'll kill them" thing is dumb. If he doesn't want to get hit he needs to stay off the field or keep himself inside the circle. Once he comes out he's just another player.

I think its pretty self explainitory. If your friend was in a fight and being beat down by two or three guys, would you watch, or would you go in and 1) fight back or 2) stop it.

[lacrosseking2]

My teammate got into a fight with some dude that was twice my size (im twice my teammates size), and so i took off my helmet and gloves and ran over and knocked that kid into next month. i also beat down his helmet with bare hands in the heat of the moment (not smart), but ice for 2 hours took care of it.

[laxobsesive359]

i woulda been pissed if i was the blue guy in the video. he got ganged with no help from his teammates. but yea i would definely help a teammate in that situation. especially if he is a good friend

[ashbeelax]

Once some one shot for my goalies cup twice so me and my friend sandwiched him on a ground ball and cracked most of his ribs.

[Laxattack05]

yeah... i stick up for my teamates if it's something like that that's legitimate...

but i dont let players be stupid... guys on my team know that if they get in a situation where it's not their fault, i'll kill the kid who's against em... but if they are stupid and talk trash and start a fight, i might just rip them out of the fight and beat their @$$...

[greenshoelaces]

I've always wanted this to happen during a game. But the other team would probably fight back. Most of the kids on my team are extremely energetic, trash talkers, and pretty good fighters. So, yes i would stick up for my teammates, but not just because they got in the fight, i would just take advantage of that opportunity. haha

[lax20]

ya i agree with greenshoelaces a fight would be funny to watch on the day we go over film. only bad thing is that means we are gonna run alot the next day

i dont agree with the one on 23 or however many there was thats just dumb

[titans 43]

that video is hurtin not even one helmet got tooken off
but ya you got to stick up for a teammate but only if he's out numbered because if you jump someone it goes crazy and get out of hand

[geelox]

i think the poll is asking if you would stick up for the kid being beat up. caz i know i sure as hell would. im def. the smallest on the team but that doesnt mean i wouldnt stick up for my team. im shocked if other teams dont. my teamate punched a kid the other day and none of them helped. if they had punched one of us our whole team would be on them. i dont feel bad for the white team guy in the vid if what he did was cheap and or illegal.

[gclark94]

I dont get in fights because if you think about it you are just hurting your team with penalties. It is stupid. If some one is messing with me, I play defense as hard as I can and try to ebarrass them with the ball and score

[bigDman]

I will stick up for my team no matter what. If anyone messes with anyone on my team im out to get them for the rest of the game espically if its one of my defenders. If that happen to my goalie I would be there in a heart beat. Ive gotten into multiple fights sticking up for team mates and do not regret it at all. You lacrosse team is your family. If your little brother was getting beaten up im sure youd go help. No difference on the feild

[defense4life13]

if we get in a fight the head varsity coach said he would kick us off the team. i think its pretty beat becasue if somone starts somthing im gonna finish it. so i useually try to make them throw the first punch so i can get out on self defense, lol.

[Serg' Lax]

I duno about you guys but oddly i find it romantic. A friend of mine in football tackled the running back and the RB got mad and punched him. I was the first one there . tackled him. my team mate came along and kicked him and his started pitting up blood. I say he had it coming.

[goaliegod]

I duno about you guys but oddly i find it romantic. A friend of mine in football tackled the running back and the RB got mad and punched him. I was the first one there . tackled him. my team mate came along and kicked him and his started pitting up blood. I say he had it coming.

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[baylorlaxer21]

only if my teammate is clearly getting killed

[bonebrakr12]

my teammates do it for me. i deck one kid and it was against his chest and he claims " i stopped his heart for a sec" and punches me and i go for the gb and he rushes my hands with a tomahawk so my best friend cross checked him in the neck. it was a bad call for the other team cause he got ejected and my friend's hit was legal. he knocked the wind out of him even more.

[Chewie]

well my last game the smallest kid on my team ( literally like 4'6) wrecked there goalie and he was like 5'8 mayb so the goalie ripped of my teamates help and started hiting him so i sprinted up nailed the goalie grabed him by his mask started jerking off his helmet then punched him multiple times till his teamate hit me off him and then our whole team and there whole team was in it was amazin the goalie got ejected and the ref cheered for me it was fnny.

[Serpe]

depends if i like them or not =P

[Defender#10]

if you dont you nead to grow a pair

[aviator7]

thats robinson high vs. lake braddock.

im going there next year, robinson has won alot of states the past 10 years

as for sticking up for teammates, when someone sticks their grill in your face, walk away.

[laxmiddy92]

the dumbest thing to do is to take ur helmet off let the dumb kids do that, its the only thing that prevents you from gettin serious brain damage when some1 swings a stick at you

[HovalLaxer]

Yo my school's 8th grade game got called early yesterday cuz of a fight. Here's the deal: A kid from my school runs over and decks a kid from the other team, and the kid from the other team is pissed and walks over to one of my school's other players and they start pushing and shoving then a kid from my school starts getting punched and throws punches back. Then as the kid from the other team is walking off the field the original kid from my school waves goodbye to him and the kid bullrushes at my school's player. So a kid from my school runs off the bench, jumps on the kid's back and punches him. The kid who ran off the bench got a one game suspension.

[lax39er]

Most of the time we deal with dropping bodies in front of the goal.

[THE_1protector]

who said no?

teammates till death. off season/on season.

[Warrior_laxman-]

this happened to my varisty team recently and i would defentaly jump in no doubt about it

[Dub C lacrosse]

Yeah. I try to avoid fights, and more break them up, but a kid in indoor was screwing with our best player so i got ejected because i punched him. But i try to avoid fighting.

Also, if you avoid punching them in the helmet which doesnt hurt at all, you can lay them out later in the game which hurts more.

[Hovallax41]

alright Hovallaxer you are so wrong. Heres how it went (Hvlaxa correct if wrong). Ok so, theres a ground ball and a kid from are school lay's a kid out. So the kid is pissed, a little later a middy pushes him on a loose ball and they go at it are teams middy pushes the kid off and the kid is furious. He's looking for a fight.. so a pole checks him and the kid gets at it with him. Now the refs had had it. They send the kid off and as he's walking off he yells suck my **** to the kid who started it all and bull rushes him now the kid who started it is waving goodbye, and attackmen comes over midfield line and jumps on the kids back. Attackmen get one game suspension and they end the game early.

If that was me i would probably do the same thing... you mess with a team mate watch your back.

[HovalLaxer]

alright Hovallaxer you are so wrong. Heres how it went (Hvlaxa correct if wrong). Ok so, theres a ground ball and a kid from are school lay's a kid out. So the kid is pissed, a little later a middy pushes him on a loose ball and they go at it are teams middy pushes the kid off and the kid is furious. He's looking for a fight.. so a pole checks him and the kid gets at it with him. Now the refs had had it. They send the kid off and as he's walking off he yells suck my **** to the kid who started it all and bull rushes him now the kid who started it is waving goodbye, and attackmen comes over midfield line and jumps on the kids back. Attackmen get one game suspension and they end the game early.

If that was me i would probably do the same thing... you mess with a team mate watch your back.

sorry I was wrong, but what you said last was so true, cuz yo know that almost any of us would do the same thing.

Speaking of fighting, my dad told me tonight that in basketball, both pro and college, whenever there is a fight, the third guy in, even if he's holding somebody back, automatically gets kicked out of the game and suspended for the next game. Now isn't that the stupidest rule you've ever heard?

[Warrior_middie_]

Hey your team is your family and you have to stick up for them, especially your goalie.

[vinny a]

Yeah I stick up for my teammates, no matter what. I dont remember what happened but someone got up in a team mates face and I went crazy on him, it took the other 2 dmen to pull me off him. There was also another fight that went on on the other teams side, and I ran across midfield and joined in. Mess with someone on my team, you mess with me.

[Run-DMC]

My teammates are like brothers. Hell yeah id stick up for em.

[SoCald]

i try and break up fights personally, but if youre doing that and the kid punches your guy, or you then the fights on. one kid on my team took 5 punches to the face, didnt do anything just took it, and still got ejected...

[MadLacrosse9]

so i go to a school that plays both of these teams. Blue is Robinson HS and the White is Lake Braddock. White had like 3 players expelled for that fight and the coaches got fired. Blue's coaches kept its team out of it cause its a $200 fine for each player off the bench, at least around here. its not that they didn't stick of for their teammate, its just that they were forced to stay out of the fight

[ashbeelax]

so i go to a school that plays both of these teams. Blue is Robinson HS and the White is Lake Braddock. White had like 3 players expelled for that fight and the coaches got fired. Blue's coaches kept its team out of it cause its a $200 fine for each player off the bench, at least around here. its not that they didn't stick of for their teammate, its just that they were forced to stay out of the fight wow that is amazing

[AHS_laxer]

How can you really be a "team" if you don't stick up for eachother. your team is your lacrosse family

[cyalax4life]

i rail on my goalie all the time...its just natural in the game of lacrosse...but if anyone on the other team touches him im on there back in a second...because unless there wearing purple they cant get near him or anyone else on my team

[DartLax86]

If my guy get wrecked on a legal play..it sucks, but its legal. My guy gets a mild cheap shot, or a slash that doesn't get called, the next time the kid touches the ball, I club him like a baby seal, or knock him on his a** - LEGALLY!

If my guy gets cheap shotted to the point where he might get injured, then I step to his defense. "sticking up" for a teammate is not worth an ejection, or hurting your TEAM even more by giving the other team an extra man situation. There are plenty of ways to get back at someone on a lacrosse field without stepping up for someone, and possibly hurting your teams cause. I have a LONG memory,there will be opportunities...

[jetsguy1792]

at one of my gams a middie from the other team swung at our attack mans head after the play was over so they got into a huge fight and everyone was involved. our attck man got stitches on his chin and suspended for 2 games

[murderlax]

of course i stick up for my teammates. we are a family, we all have each other's backs.
if anything ever goes down, im usually the first one on the field.

[HVlaxa7]

Yo my school's 8th grade game got called early yesterday cuz of a fight. Here's the deal: A kid from my school runs over and decks a kid from the other team, and the kid from the other team is pissed and walks over to one of my school's other players and they start pushing and shoving then a kid from my school starts getting punched and throws punches back. Then as the kid from the other team is walking off the field the original kid from my school waves goodbye to him and the kid bullrushes at my school's player. So a kid from my school runs off the bench, jumps on the kid's back and punches him. The kid who ran off the bench got a one game suspension.

murf, you are completely wrong. i am on the 8th grade team and i was on the field when it happened. jackson was in the game btw

[HVlaxa7]

alright Hovallaxer you are so wrong. Heres how it went (Hvlaxa correct if wrong). Ok so, theres a ground ball and a kid from are school lay's a kid out. So the kid is pissed, a little later a middy pushes him on a loose ball and they go at it are teams middy pushes the kid off and the kid is furious. He's looking for a fight.. so a pole checks him and the kid gets at it with him. Now the refs had had it. They send the kid off and as he's walking off he yells suck my **** to the kid who started it all and bull rushes him now the kid who started it is waving goodbye, and attackmen comes over midfield line and jumps on the kids back. Attackmen get one game suspension and they end the game early.

If that was me i would probably do the same thing... you mess with a team mate watch your back.
Brian youre wrong also. lol. taco said something( i believe he said the "n" word), he was about to get stormed, so jackson came over and pushed the kid and then the kid threw a punch and then jackson threw a punch, and they went to the ground together, and another kid on the other team ran over and kicked jackson in the head.

[vonlewis 22]

we played this team and would go after our newest, smallest players i got so angry because i as friends with the kids just like everyone else so instead of beating them up they just got hit with shots

[bwlax5]

If it's someone hits a player on my team illegally, then im fighting if a fight breaks out. If it's legal, and only words are exchanged, I only make that person pay within the rules. (i.e. goal or a big hit)

[ryan 32]

Danm straight u stick up for ur teamates i was playing this real cocky kid who kept bagging on my goalie so i got pissed and laid him the **** out then they got pissed and took a cheap shot on another one of my teamates so i laid him out i mean then they got really mad at me and two kids both came after me at the same time and i got hit but bottom line they stopped taking cheap shots and talkin **** and one time this kid swung his stick at the back of my knee and took me out and my friend came and decked him it was great

[BluejayBlitz9]

i personally like the quote hopkins used as their motto last year..its shakespeare.'s saint crispens day speech.... $its money in the bank$

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother;

the way i see things, avoid fights at all costs. but at the end of the day, do what you have to do for the ones you love and your friends.

[hgroberts]

I'm all for keeping lacrosse classy, but if you start messing with my goalie in the crease, I'll yell at you once, and then push you out of the way (wich normally means pushing you over as I'm 6'4 215 playing u-15 lacrosse)

[EastCoastDeft]

1 dont touch a goalie
2 dont touch a goalie
3 dont touch a goalie unless your ready to take on the whole team

yes i stick up for my teamates in brawls but in arguements sometimes not

[ryan 32]

yea thats exactly how i am

[civozele]

well there was this one time where this kid on the other team got angry that my teammate a defender "roughed" him up, so he decided to push and my teammate is a hot headed tempermental guido so he goes nuts on this kid, so me and the other defender decide to just watch until the other team decides to get in then it became an all out bench clearing brawl, so much fun and it was fists but no one got hurt too bad, our coach didnt even say anything he was like yea ive coached a girls team who got the police called on them blah blah blah. game got suspended and i dont think it counted but yea it was fun and somewhat not worth it cause we couldve murdered those kids, and it was like a minute into the first quater. i know theres a kid the plays for clarkstown lol thats who my team fought

[Hitman23000]

first rule of lacrosse....never, i mean NEVER touch a dpole's goalie

You couldn't really see much, but if you **** with a goalie, your going to get your *** kicked no matter what. The white team defiantly had a reason to go after him and I think anyone I've played with would do the same.

We don't really know the history behind the purple team, but with the comments, I'm guessing they don't have a history of fighting. You never know if people have been ejected before and the coach told them to stay back or told them before no more fights.

Just my input.

[shaneTHEking]

hitman23000 I got a warning earlier for censoring my profanity, dont be surprised if u get one now.