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Kleinlax-67
05-12-2008, 10:16 PM
Why not start this off early so we can keep track of some indoor play also? Who do you think will take state?
I feel the strong teams from the south are going to be, Klein, memorial and stratford of course and cyfair shouldnt be too shabby but will have to work hard to fill in some major gaps, for the north i feel highland park 2 will be good along with coppel and i feel central will be about the same except for a few key players being lost on cedar park.
I personally feel that there is no clear cut winner and will be a closer more intense season than previous years.
kleinlax-75
05-12-2008, 10:27 PM
sounds good bro, im already thinking about next season, too bad i couldnt make my invite to T99 but im training hard this summer none the less and going to come out leading klein to some wins
Kleinlax-67
05-12-2008, 10:29 PM
sounds good bro, im already thinking about next season, too bad i couldnt make my invite to T99 but im training hard this summer none the less and going to come out leading klein to some wins
Yeah I just hope we can find an indoor team to play on , if anybody has a team and wants 2 pretty decent players we're 100% committed , I feel like highland park is going to go to state again next year as young as they are they are not losing too many power houses
TXD2LAX
05-13-2008, 08:40 AM
You do realize this is the most important year for the college coaches to see you there at T99. You are selling yourself short by not attending.
kleinlax-75
05-13-2008, 03:00 PM
You do realize this is the most important year for the college coaches to see you there at T99. You are selling yourself short by not attending.well there is nothing i can do about it, my parents wont let me go unless i have a job, no exceptions, they are ignorant and i tried getting a job plenty of times and i just cant get hired, so im just going to have to deal without going
Kleinlax-67
05-13-2008, 03:22 PM
You do realize this is the most important year for the college coaches to see you there at T99. You are selling yourself short by not attending.
not everybody has the means to go to it but i'm sure some coaches will still hear about him.
MEMLAX1
05-13-2008, 06:12 PM
ya I think next season will be interesting bc basically everybody except for cyfair is losing their starting goalie
TXD2LAX
05-13-2008, 06:17 PM
well there is nothing i can do about it, my parents wont let me go unless i have a job, no exceptions, they are ignorant and i tried getting a job plenty of times and i just cant get hired, so im just going to have to deal without going
I hope you have some game film to send coaches. Without going to T99 most coaches will not give you a second look. That is where the game films become handy. Quality NCAA programs will not "hear" about you down here. Even if they did, I seriously doubt they would take you without seeing you play, or on film. You could be the leading scorer in Houston, but if you are only 5'4" and 125 lbs, a NCAA coach won't even call you. Tip: the more you are seen by people outside of Texas the better your chances of making a NCAA team.
kleinlax-75
05-13-2008, 07:56 PM
I hope you have some game film to send coaches. Without going to T99 most coaches will not give you a second look. That is where the game films become handy. Quality NCAA programs will not "hear" about you down here. Even if they did, I seriously doubt they would take you without seeing you play, or on film. You could be the leading scorer in Houston, but if you are only 5'4" and 125 lbs, a NCAA coach won't even call you. Tip: the more you are seen by people outside of Texas the better your chances of making a NCAA team.well then i guess i will settle with walking on...
unholygoalie10
05-13-2008, 10:36 PM
well there is nothing i can do about it, my parents wont let me go unless i have a job, no exceptions, they are ignorant and i tried getting a job plenty of times and i just cant get hired, so im just going to have to deal without going
SUBWAY!!! if they will hire me they will hire anyone!!!
I got a job there last summer showed up in jean a tee shirt my long hair pulled back had the facial hair thing going 4 me and I got hired on the spot
just apply everywhere even if u quit right after t99
laximum
05-15-2008, 01:50 PM
D2 Predictions:
South:
1 Memorial
2 Clear Lake
3 Klein
4 SWLC
North:
1 Coppell
2 Allen
3 HP2
4 Hillcrest
Central:
1 Stoney Point
2 TMI
3 St Anthonys
4 Leander
kleinlax-75
05-15-2008, 09:54 PM
my predictions
south:
1. klein
2. memorial
3. swlc
central:
1. CP (if they stay D2)
2. stoney point (i heard good things)
3. TMI
north:
1. Coppell
2. HPII
3. Allen
kleinlax-75
05-15-2008, 09:57 PM
ya I think next season will be interesting bc basically everybody except for cyfair is losing their starting goalieyea but cy-fair is losing so much that i dont even think they will be a contender for state, dont get me wrong they will still be pretty good but not nearly anything like they have been
in all i think its going to be the most competetive season yet
SuperLaxer27
05-15-2008, 10:03 PM
my predictions
south:
1. klein
2. memorial
3. swlc
central:
1. CP (if they stay D2)
2. stoney point (i heard good things)
3. TMI
north:
1. Coppell
2. HPII
3. Allen
I like how your dropping the runners up for central district to third place overall next season. when they are only losing two players.
trilogyblack1
05-15-2008, 10:32 PM
Cedar Park has petitioned to move up to D1 and now McCallum and i think Anderson as well have petitioned to go down to D2. I also believe there will be 4 districts in D2 next year with the S.A getting their own district.
SuperLaxer27
05-15-2008, 10:38 PM
Cedar Park has petitioned to move up to D1 and now McCallum and i think Anderson as well have petitioned to go down to D2. I also believe there will be 4 districts in D2 next year with the S.A getting their own district.
hmm thats some nice information. i wouldn't complain about that. are you or a family member employed by thsll. just curious about where you got that info.
trilogyblack1
05-16-2008, 03:48 PM
hmm thats some nice information. i wouldn't complain about that. are you or a family member employed by thsll. just curious about where you got that info.
no i play at Stony Point
SuperLaxer27
05-17-2008, 12:07 PM
if your just a player where are you getting this info.???
ByrdDpole
05-17-2008, 12:34 PM
So, according to everyone, including my coach, Louisiana teams are going to leave THSLL next year to start their own league. How would THSLL bolster the loss of 3 teams, which would also result in the east having 1 more team than the west. Move up a d3 team?
trilogyblack1
05-17-2008, 02:14 PM
just speculation
kleinlax-75
05-17-2008, 02:17 PM
So, according to everyone, including my coach, Louisiana teams are going to leave THSLL next year to start their own league. How would THSLL bolster the loss of 3 teams, which would also result in the east having 1 more team than the west. Move up a d3 team?thats some news and i think its great, good luck LHSLL (Louisiana High School Lacrosse League) , haha it sounds pretty good i think
ByrdDpole
05-17-2008, 03:46 PM
thats some news and i think its great, good luck LHSLL (Louisiana High School Lacrosse League) , haha it sounds pretty good i think
I think it would be LLL, or something like LaxLA, thats what the website is..laxla.org
btclax
05-18-2008, 04:53 PM
they would get rid of the east and west and have one league with a 7 team league i guess...unless someone goes d1...I dont think there is anyone from d3 that would get bumped up...
BigguhPlease25
05-18-2008, 09:38 PM
Leander is switching to Vista Ridge next year due to lack of Leander players (50% rule), and Lake Travis should join the Hill Country division after playing DIII last year. I will say if CP moves up, then it will be Stony Point and Vista competing for the hill country division title. However, predictions are just mere speculation, I could be wrong and maybe St. Michaels could surprise everyone and win the division title, with all but one of their players returning from last season. I do place the favorite for winning the title on HPII again, they do have the best depth of any program in the state. As far as the other regions go, until we see who splits up, and who goes DI, etc. it is hard to tell who will come out of it.
On another note, I am attending the Texas Top 99 and the FCA lacrosse team tryouts which happen next week. Is anyone else going to attend the FCA tryouts?
Kleinlax-67
05-19-2008, 02:51 PM
i just cant wait to play and actually see the out comes but i agree with kleinlax-75's predictions
trilogyblack1
05-19-2008, 08:45 PM
Leander is switching to Vista Ridge next year due to lack of Leander players (50% rule), and Lake Travis should join the Hill Country division after playing DIII last year. I will say if CP moves up, then it will be Stony Point and Vista competing for the hill country division title. However, predictions are just mere speculation, I could be wrong and maybe St. Michaels could surprise everyone and win the division title, with all but one of their players returning from last season. I do place the favorite for winning the title on HPII again, they do have the best depth of any program in the state. As far as the other regions go, until we see who splits up, and who goes DI, etc. it is hard to tell who will come out of it.
On another note, I am attending the Texas Top 99 and the FCA lacrosse team tryouts which happen next week. Is anyone else going to attend the FCA tryouts?
theres no way you guys will challange us we beat you 17-5 last year and we have everyone coming back with a good 8th grade class ready to contribute right away i.e my little brother
sorry but its not happenin
Ridin Spinnaz
05-19-2008, 09:16 PM
So, according to everyone, including my coach, Louisiana teams are going to leave THSLL next year to start their own league. How would THSLL bolster the loss of 3 teams, which would also result in the east having 1 more team than the west. Move up a d3 team?
Our Coach has told us that there might not be a west and an east in the north next year, just one big district
Ridin Spinnaz
05-19-2008, 09:18 PM
I think Colleyville should move back to DII they are very competitive and need to stay in D2 to continue to get back to where they were and more.
LTlax14
05-19-2008, 09:19 PM
yo what number is Alex Hardt?
Kleinlax-67
05-23-2008, 03:33 PM
So what teams could put together an indoor team?
southernlax15
05-25-2008, 10:46 AM
So what teams could put together an indoor team?
what other teams are making adult teams? if you are a senior from the south get together with your seniors and make a team!!
http://www.insideoutlacrosse.com/
Buildingadomina
05-26-2008, 11:19 AM
Has Dallas player looked at the Bratva travel team?
What are the chances HP2 and HP1 repeat the sweep? That would be amazing.
KOLax25
05-26-2008, 07:56 PM
[QUOTE=southernlax15;1569581]what other teams are making adult teams? if you are a senior from the south get together with your seniors and make a team!!
Most of the seniors from the Klein team have put together a team.
turntables
05-26-2008, 09:15 PM
if you are trying to get recruited and play ncaa ball at any level...
t99 is a good camp but you should consider something more along the lines of STX Top 205 or something on the east coast.
southernlax15
05-27-2008, 09:52 AM
if you are trying to get recruited and play ncaa ball at any level...
t99 is a good camp but you should consider something more along the lines of STX Top 205 or something on the east coast.
T99 is enough, dont waste money and go to the east coast for t250, there is over 200 college coaches that come to t99 and probally more this year.
if you play good at t99 you are guarenteed to get letters and be recruited.
17lax
05-27-2008, 08:54 PM
This is very untrue. Texas "Top 99" is very overrated. If it was like before when it was the top 99 players from texas, you have a very good shot at being recruited, however, with it now being texas top 2,000 its nothing more that a camp without instructions. And by the way, most, if not all, College coaches do NOT want to see tape, it is a waste of their time. Everyone knows that you are going to send all good highlights of you, so they don't care. If you prove yourself during the season then you get recognized, and hopefully your coaches send out letters to college coaches for you.
mindcrime
05-27-2008, 11:33 PM
With Cedar Park moving up to D2, Stony Point will take Central easily.
TXD2LAX
05-28-2008, 03:59 AM
This is very untrue. Texas "Top 99" is very overrated. If it was like before when it was the top 99 players from texas, you have a very good shot at being recruited, however, with it now being texas top 2,000 its nothing more that a camp without instructions. And by the way, most, if not all, College coaches do NOT want to see tape, it is a waste of their time. Everyone knows that you are going to send all good highlights of you, so they don't care. If you prove yourself during the season then you get recognized, and hopefully your coaches send out letters to college coaches for you.
T99 is the best opportunity for the players in Texas to be personally seen by dozens of NCAA coaches. Yes, I do think it has been diluted somewhat, but the coaches that attend know what they are looking for. I am not sure where you get your info about coaches not wanting to see tape, but we were told by many coaches to send a copy of your best game and your worst. They want to see how good of a player you are throughout a single game, and your worst game will show what character you have.
sscgulls
05-28-2008, 07:36 PM
well there is nothing i can do about it, my parents wont let me go unless i have a job, no exceptions, they are ignorant and i tried getting a job plenty of times and i just cant get hired, so im just going to have to deal without going
Speak to Coach Tim!
Kleinlax-67
06-01-2008, 04:37 PM
Speak to Coach Tim!
its a little late for that but he's good enough for his stats to be sent somewhere and get heard about he's freaking athletic
kleinlax-75
06-01-2008, 09:40 PM
Speak to Coach Tim!yea he was going to help me out with it but my parents demanded me to get a job and i couldnt find one in time, so i couldnt go, btw someone tell me how it went since T99 is this weekend
and like kleinlax-67 said i will probably be the standout of our team next year and im not worried about finding somewhere to play, i can get picked up by someone eventually
kleinlax-75
06-04-2008, 10:48 PM
ok so the first set of indoor games are this weekend.
whos playing?
i think we (klein) play cy-fair A (im surprised they didnt save that game for the end) lol
btclax
06-05-2008, 12:25 PM
ok why do we have 2 texas threads?
TXD2LAX
06-05-2008, 04:09 PM
and like kleinlax-67 said i will probably be the standout of our team next year and im not worried about finding somewhere to play, i can get picked up by someone eventually
How are you going to accomplish that? Are you going to any East coast camps this summer? Are you going to send game tapes to coaches? If you answer to either of these is NO, you are selling yourself short. I am sure there will be some team that may want you to come, but the amount of help they will offer you will be greatly diminished if they have never seen you. Remember NCAA DIII has NO ATHLETIC SCHOLORSHIPS.
TXD2LAX
06-05-2008, 04:47 PM
I am being biased here, but Taylor will have a decent team this year and a very good team the two years following 2009. The problem with their team in 2008 was two fold. Communication it seemed what the coach was trying to teach was not reaching its intended audience. Second was dedication. There was maybe 4 of 5 guys that really worked hard to improve their skills throughout the year, and those guys could not seem to motivate the others to do the same. The JV team they had last year was very motivated, very teachable, and eager. The good news is that last years JV will be this years, and the years to come, varsity as they graduated something like 20 seniors. As these young players get more time on the field with each other they will only get better and better.
trilogyblack1
06-05-2008, 06:09 PM
Who will be the best players in everyones area next year? north? south? central?
kleinlax-75
06-05-2008, 11:47 PM
How are you going to accomplish that? Are you going to any East coast camps this summer? Are you going to send game tapes to coaches? If you answer to either of these is NO, you are selling yourself short. I am sure there will be some team that may want you to come, but the amount of help they will offer you will be greatly diminished if they have never seen you. Remember NCAA DIII has NO ATHLETIC SCHOLORSHIPS.im not aiming higher than DIII at all, and i cant exactly do much about selling myself short, i come from a lower-middle class family, the klein club had to waive my fees cause i couldnt pay them, it was greatly appreciated too, and not to mention my parents give me little to no support what-so-ever, i couldnt go to T99, i dont have a camera nor someone to film me specifically at my games. so what am i to do?
kleinlax-75
06-05-2008, 11:49 PM
ok why do we have 2 texas threads?because parents took over the other thread with constant, pointless bickering
TXD2LAX
06-06-2008, 03:36 AM
im not aiming higher than DIII at all, and i cant exactly do much about selling myself short, i come from a lower-middle class family, the klein club had to waive my fees cause i couldnt pay them, it was greatly appreciated too, and not to mention my parents give me little to no support what-so-ever, i couldnt go to T99, i dont have a camera nor someone to film me specifically at my games. so what am i to do?
I am not sure what you can do. DIII is great Lacrosse, but without atheletic scholorships it can be very expensive.
SLLax07
06-06-2008, 07:37 AM
I am not sure what you can do. DIII is great Lacrosse, but without atheletic scholorships it can be very expensive.
Kleinlax-75, You will get help from DIII schools. They can't offer athletic scholarships, but they will offer you other scholarships not designated "athletic scholarships" to help you if you are valuable to them. An example would be when my daughter was being recruited by Chestnut Hill College, they were willing to give her a 3/4 "Leadership Scholarship". Manhattan College was going to give her a 3/4 "University Scholarship". The important part is for you to make contact with the schools that interest you now. You never know what coaches are able to work out.
Look at Tenessee Wesleyan. They are DIII and are trying to get up the lacrosse world quickly. The coach there loves Texas athletes, and he has recruited and given scholarships to 3 Southlake lax players in the last couple of years. Likewise, he offered others, but they did not accept them.
Look at other DIII schools in Arkansas or other local states first, they are more knowledgeable about Texas athletics and would be easier to travel to if you had to. But go ahead and do your research and figure out which schools interest you, and make contact now and start working with the coaches. If you don't mind diggin deep enough, there will be plenty of opportunity for you.
By the way, at T99 Klein had a good little middie named Ronstadt. One of your teamates?
Bntherednthat
06-06-2008, 09:09 AM
To Kleinlax and all other Texas players who are psyched out that without paying mad cash for camps, sending "highlight videos" to coaches, and don't have a couple weeks to road trip up east to play in summer leagues that you have no chance. Here is a reality check.
You still have many options and opportunity to play NCAA lax.
First of all, Kleinlax-75. Your school has already established a track record with Coach Silva at Fontbonne. Brooks and some of the Klein Oak players are blowing doors off out there. Email and call Nick. Tell him how you can be an impact player for his team. You will probably get an invite to meet with him and tour the campus. If you are the lax player and athlete you claim to be you will get a look. If you have good grades...which you better...then you can qualify to get considerable money towards your tuition. You can get a job while you are a student to help cover the difference. Also, Fontbonne has a 5 to 1 girl to guy ratio so they are in need male students.
If Fontbonne isn't your cup of tea, then look around at all of the new DIII programs. I mean no disrespect to any programs, players, or coaches in this next statement...many new programs need bodies before talent in the beginning to hit the critical mass necessary to field a program. A big determinant to whether or not the schools will continue to fund such programs is recruiting interest. If you commit to a start up program you can create the opportunity to be part of something big, an investment player.
Getting into a program is the first step of a long journey. Once in a program, you can always seek to transfer in the following years to a more competitive program. It is all about how well you adapt to the college game as it is quite different from what you are accustomed to.
There are also DII programs. While only a few powerhouses exist, there are many that need bodies. Contact every DII school's lax coach and express your interest in playing at that level. Believe it or not, more than a few DII schools straight up need bodies.
I am disappointed at the discouragement that you guys are getting on here. I know we are sending some guys to DI, but in reality most players on here are better suited to DIII. Coaches get so many videos of kids showboating in the 4th quarter of a 22-2 blowout that snippets of video don't do much to generate interest. Too many times kids have submitted these amazing videos to coaches, but when they show up to play the coaches quickly realize that those videos were the rare "highlights" and not indicative of consistent performance. (2 cents on videos, save them until the coach requests them, for his sake).
Camps are great. The coaches see you amongst 200 other kids who are under pressure to excel as individuals. It's a snapshot of your basic skills and athletic ability. It's a good first look, but it is not the end all be all of your chances of getting recruited. Without camps, if you market yourself, you can get accepted into a program.
Everyone keep your chins up. If you let someone talk you out of living your dream then you will never know "what if?" Believe in yourselves, work hard, train hard, study hard. Respect yourselves and never give up!
"When you run into a wall that you can't climb over...find a window"
kleinlax-75
06-06-2008, 12:15 PM
By the way, at T99 Klein had a good little middie named Ronstadt. One of your teamates?yes mitch ronstadt, he is a great D middie and hes a little quick guy, if he would get his shot down and work on his stick a bit more he would be great. how did he look at T99 anyways?
To Kleinlax and all other Texas players who are psyched out that without paying mad cash for camps, sending "highlight videos" to coaches, and don't have a couple weeks to road trip up east to play in summer leagues that you have no chance. Here is a reality check.
You still have many options and opportunity to play NCAA lax.
First of all, Kleinlax-75. Your school has already established a track record with Coach Silva at Fontbonne. Brooks and some of the Klein Oak players are blowing doors off out there. Email and call Nick. Tell him how you can be an impact player for his team. You will probably get an invite to meet with him and tour the campus. If you are the lax player and athlete you claim to be you will get a look. If you have good grades...which you better...then you can qualify to get considerable money towards your tuition. You can get a job while you are a student to help cover the difference. Also, Fontbonne has a 5 to 1 girl to guy ratio so they are in need male students.
If Fontbonne isn't your cup of tea, then look around at all of the new DIII programs. I mean no disrespect to any programs, players, or coaches in this next statement...many new programs need bodies before talent in the beginning to hit the critical mass necessary to field a program. A big determinant to whether or not the schools will continue to fund such programs is recruiting interest. If you commit to a start up program you can create the opportunity to be part of something big, an investment player.
Getting into a program is the first step of a long journey. Once in a program, you can always seek to transfer in the following years to a more competitive program. It is all about how well you adapt to the college game as it is quite different from what you are accustomed to.
There are also DII programs. While only a few powerhouses exist, there are many that need bodies. Contact every DII school's lax coach and express your interest in playing at that level. Believe it or not, more than a few DII schools straight up need bodies.
I am disappointed at the discouragement that you guys are getting on here. I know we are sending some guys to DI, but in reality most players on here are better suited to DIII. Coaches get so many videos of kids showboating in the 4th quarter of a 22-2 blowout that snippets of video don't do much to generate interest. Too many times kids have submitted these amazing videos to coaches, but when they show up to play the coaches quickly realize that those videos were the rare "highlights" and not indicative of consistent performance. (2 cents on videos, save them until the coach requests them, for his sake).
Camps are great. The coaches see you amongst 200 other kids who are under pressure to excel as individuals. It's a snapshot of your basic skills and athletic ability. It's a good first look, but it is not the end all be all of your chances of getting recruited. Without camps, if you market yourself, you can get accepted into a program.
Everyone keep your chins up. If you let someone talk you out of living your dream then you will never know "what if?" Believe in yourselves, work hard, train hard, study hard. Respect yourselves and never give up!
"When you run into a wall that you can't climb over...find a window"this was the perfect advice i was looking for, thank you Bntherednthat, i will start my search right away and look for some opportunity among the NCAA lacrosse world, wish me luck
Buildingadomina
06-06-2008, 02:55 PM
D3 Young and/or New Programs to consider:
Adrian
Anna Maria
Carthage
Gwynedd-Mercy
Husson
Penn State Abington
Randolph
Tri State
D2 Young and/or New Programs to consider:
Briarcliffe
Florida Southern
Grand Canyon
Missouri Baptist
Rollins
Seton Hill
Tennessee Wesleyan
At these programs you will be able to work on your game for a year or two without fear of getting cut so by junior year you are ready to make an impact. Or perhaps even better, you could be ready to contribute immediately.
Ultimately lacrosse is a great sport to play in college. However make sure to select a college that you would be happy attending if you weren't playing lacrosse. The worst experience I had in college was being on the side line freshmen year with an injury because I began to wonder if I actually liked the school.
coaches gal
06-06-2008, 03:58 PM
in addition to the great advice above, something else I would add is to search and find the Texas players playing in college now. Especially the Houston area guys.
Make contact with them, ask if they'd like to work out over Christmas Break [when many will be home]. Those guys can then be a great way to make contact with some schools.
Maybe find out if some journalism and film students at school would be willing to tape a few games for you, maybe they'll need extra credit. Or maybe Coach Tim can find a parent willing to tape the games.
Also - regsister with the NCAA Clearinghouse - I know it costs money, but there's always something to do to earn it [mow yards, rake leaves, string heads, etc]. I know it ain't glamorous work, but it's cash.
FYI, Tenn Weslyn is not in DII or DIII. They are a member of the NAIA. Their lacrosse team competes in the MCLA/Southeastern Lacrosse Conference (SELC).
TXD2LAX
06-06-2008, 06:40 PM
I am not trying to discourage you. Yes, many of these schools mentioned are looking for players to fill their rosters, but I did not want you to handcuff yourself to just these teams. You will be the leader on the Klein team next season, but other DII and DIII coaches that have well established teams will want to see you in action before talking with you. Do not have a highlight reel for them. The ones we contacted over the past couple of years that wanted to see game film wanted a really good game you had and a really bad game you had. This way they could see your skill and your character. I wish you all the best. I think you have great character and could make a good DIII player on even an established team, maybe not Salisbury of Cortland, but few in Texas could do that. I know Roanoke has been looking more at Texas players. It all really depends on what you want to major in. Look for the schools that have great school programs in that. Keep your grades up. As stated before the DIII schools have "alterative" ways to giving you funds without atheletic scholorships. Most revolve around your grades others don't. By all means have FUN this last HS season.
btclax
06-07-2008, 05:44 PM
so if I wanted to stay in state....what is the best camp to go to in Texas?
PFurdLax31
06-07-2008, 09:11 PM
Some will be surprised at how well Lake is going to do in the south... WATCH OUT!
numero uno
06-09-2008, 11:42 AM
Some will be surprised at how well Lake is going to do in the south... WATCH OUT!
and why should we be watching out for clear lake? who do they have?
numero uno
06-09-2008, 11:46 AM
D2 Predictions:
South:
1 Memorial
2 Clear Lake
3 Klein
4 SWLC
North:
1 Coppell
2 Allen
3 HP2
4 Hillcrest
Central:
1 Stoney Point
2 TMI
3 St Anthonys
4 Leander
idk why u would put these teams in these orders? hp2 in 3rd? memorial, clear lake, and klein??? HP2 will do better and the top 3 teams u listed for the south, probably only one will be in the top three and they won't be number one
kleinlax-75
06-09-2008, 04:43 PM
idk why u would put these teams in these orders? hp2 in 3rd? memorial, clear lake, and klein??? HP2 will do better and the top 3 teams u listed for the south, probably only one will be in the top three and they won't be number onehow bout you make your own predictions instead of critiquing someone elses, because truthfully you have no idea who is going to be better then anyone else
numero uno
06-11-2008, 09:43 AM
how bout you make your own predictions instead of critiquing someone elses, because truthfully you have no idea who is going to be better then anyone else
so if no one knos whos better then anyone else how can anyone predict?
and i wasn't trying to critique i was stating how a felt about his predictions and i predicted that only one of those teams would be any good and that he under estimated HP. so in a way i did make my own predictions. i predict that memorial will be ok and so will stratford, i don't think klein will be very good nor clear lake, belliare might be ok too as well as st thomas, i just don't see very many play makers from klein or clear lake, i can only think of two or three good players frm clear lake and who does klein have, did they have a good jv last yr cause there varsity wasn't too good, their goalie kept them in a lot of games and he graduated did he not?
is cyfair staying d2? no reason to move them up
terplax2
06-11-2008, 03:51 PM
Ougotz, no#00, he's Italian
coaches gal
06-11-2008, 05:02 PM
is cyfair staying d2? no reason to move them up
As long as the eligibility percentages stay the same, I imagine they'll stay DII
btclax
06-11-2008, 10:03 PM
heard plano west couldnt hang in d1 and is going back to d2....
kleinlax-75
06-12-2008, 12:22 AM
and why should we be watching out for clear lake? who do they have?he plays for lake maybe thats why, and he is the coaches son, i know taylor doesnt have anyone.
TXD2LAX
06-12-2008, 03:11 AM
Taylor's only two returning starters were the top two scorers of last season.
numero uno
06-12-2008, 11:02 AM
he plays for lake maybe thats why, and he is the coaches son, i know taylor doesnt have anyone.
Taylor's only two returning starters were the top two scorers of last season.
kleinlax-75 you have no idea wat u r talking about, u kno taylor has no one? we r returning our two best players and our only good grad was our goalie and maybe a middie, we also had a ridiculous jv team which will all be coming up with my best friend and wing mate right next to me on my attack line and i promise you he will have 25+ goals and 20 + assists and our my other bud who is the second leading scorer on my team only to me will put up those numbers and more, trust me we have way more then ppl think, we have so much young talent. so for you to say that you kno that taylor has noone just proves that you don't kno wat your talking about.
who does klein have?
and btw wat number, year, and position are u?
kleinlax-75
06-12-2008, 06:55 PM
kleinlax-75 you have no idea wat u r talking about, u kno taylor has no one? we r returning our two best players and our only good grad was our goalie and maybe a middie, we also had a ridiculous jv team which will all be coming up with my best friend and wing mate right next to me on my attack line and i promise you he will have 25+ goals and 20 + assists and our my other bud who is the second leading scorer on my team only to me will put up those numbers and more, trust me we have way more then ppl think, we have so much young talent. so for you to say that you kno that taylor has noone just proves that you don't kno wat your talking about.
who does klein have?
and btw wat number, year, and position are u?well i certainly know how to spell words correctly
klein has 2 returning starting D, I will be the only returning starting middie, and 2 starting attackmen.
#75
2009
middie
numero uno
06-12-2008, 08:40 PM
its called short hand
BigguhPlease25
06-13-2008, 11:24 AM
We return only two starters, myself and Tyler Devine, our starting goalie, yet sometimes change can be a good thing. We finally have more than one coach on our staff this year, we have our entire second line of middies back with two more that got some playing time as swing players last year. We also will have two other poles, Chris Gilbert and Kobe Schofield who also saw playing time on varsity in their first year of playing.
The biggest issue that brought us down was not lack of athleticism or talent, it was not excuting properly. We frequently had seniors (5 starters) and a junior who started who not only didn't show up to practice on any consistent basis, and did not have the work ethic. With no one at practice, we develop no rthyhm as offensive and defensive units. No one knows the plays to run on offense, we can't catch and throw the ball to our middies and attackmen so we can't clear the ball, hold the ball on offense for any significant amount of time (we were outshot by CP 63 to 9 in a 22-0 loss in the playoffs, and averaged just 2 points per game over the last five games of the season). It gets to the point where their is no point to go but up, and as a senior now, step up and lead this team as far as we can possibly go, letting go of last year and regain the glory of years past such as when we won the 2006 Hill Country division title my freshman year.
Kleinlax-67
06-13-2008, 11:17 PM
idk why u would put these teams in these orders? hp2 in 3rd? memorial, clear lake, and klein??? HP2 will do better and the top 3 teams u listed for the south, probably only one will be in the top three and they won't be number one
Why hp2 3rd? because players move up to division one, no those teams for the south are the most likely to be top 3 memorial had a great season and they're young, clear lake has good coaches and good players they're sure to do well and klein because we went as far as we did with majority sophomores.
taylor is like my 8th pick for the south right after friendswood
TXD2LAX
06-14-2008, 04:00 AM
Most teams in the South will be expriencing somewhat of a "rebuilding" year. Many teams lost key players. Yes, Klein did have several young players, but you lost many of the players that got you to where you finished. Cinco Ranch only lost like 3 players, so they could be much better this year. Taylor's team will be young, but experienced. Cy Fair will not dominate, but they will have a ton of guys that have played since the 5th grade together. It should be an interesting year to say the least.
While this discussion is about Texas and who may win their first District Championship, will Klein or Cy-Fair be able to win another state title etc, it's interesting to look around at other states.
West Gennessee HS from Camillus, NY a suburb of Syracuse, just won their 26th NY Sectional title (comparable to our district title) on the way to winning their 15th NY state title. Pretty amazing to have that much consistency in a program.
Something to strive for eh? BTW there are something like 320 high school teams in NY.
Now back to the original thread, there may be more parity in '09 than any time since DII was created. It should be wide open with more teams in the hunt with an even chance at winning than ever before. It wouldn't be surprising to see our dist champ with somehting like an 10-6 record.
BigguhPlease25
06-15-2008, 09:44 AM
Is far as west Gennessee goes, as the saying goes 'winning is a habit'. Once you win one title, it gets more easier psychologically to win another win because you have already gotten over the hump. On a different note, any thoughts on the North district?
btclax
06-15-2008, 06:49 PM
I think coppel will be strong and so willl HP, of course and Allen...hillcrest will be ok again...losing 2 of their best players....Greenhill will be desent since they were young last year, Mckinney and East graduated alot of players, who knows if they can replace....rumors have it Plano West is trying to drop to D2 so that will make the North more interesting...I dont believe there is a clear cut team or teams...I guess D2 is going to be interesting this year...I have to agree with one of you that said that the district champs could have alot of loses...this could make an exciting year
shboingsteady11
06-15-2008, 07:21 PM
i think that LBJ high will take the state title next year they are too good for the competion in the area
Kleinlax-67
06-15-2008, 09:27 PM
Most teams in the South will be expriencing somewhat of a "rebuilding" year. Many teams lost key players. Yes, Klein did have several young players, but you lost many of the players that got you to where you finished. Cinco Ranch only lost like 3 players, so they could be much better this year. Taylor's team will be young, but experienced. Cy Fair will not dominate, but they will have a ton of guys that have played since the 5th grade together. It should be an interesting year to say the least.
The players we lost were not really key it was our two young attack and defense that held it together and we have some very athletic and good kids from jv coming up, taylor you talk big but we wrecked you whats your excuse since you guys are "so good"
Kleinlax-67
06-15-2008, 09:29 PM
i think that LBJ high will take the state title next year they are too good for the competion in the area
Are you talking about texas because i have never heard of you, and its probably a central team which is really just like jv.
BigguhPlease25
06-15-2008, 10:15 PM
You guys are eons away, you got beat by CP 25-0 and by us 25-5 after we let in a few goals with a 25-2 lead going into the 4th. So, yeah, good luck with that, I wish I could even possibly believe what you are saying.
TXD2LAX
06-16-2008, 03:27 AM
The players we lost were not really key it was our two young attack and defense that held it together and we have some very athletic and good kids from jv coming up, taylor you talk big but we wrecked you whats your excuse since you guys are "so good"
Taylor's varsity was not good last year. It was one of the worst they have had. Yet that was the second lowest goals Klein had scored in a game. Taylor's defense only allowed 1 more goal than Memorial's did against you guys. Taylo's JV last season, which will be most of their varsity this season, managed to put the second most goals Klein JV allowed last season. The loss of JJ will hurt more than you will realize until the tournaments begin in the fall. Your goalie has got a huge void to fill. Klein rellied on JJ's 20+ saves per game. And I never bragged about Taylor's team being great this next season. I said they would be decent.
numero uno
06-16-2008, 08:29 AM
The players we lost were not really key it was our two young attack and defense that held it together and we have some very athletic and good kids from jv coming up, taylor you talk big but we wrecked you whats your excuse since you guys are "so good"
too bad i watched u and your indoor team and was not at all impressed by u or ur buddy 75 nor anybody else and u really don't realize how important ur goalie was to u, and u didnt wreck us, u beat us by 4, and this is a totally diff year, i really can't wait to play you guys cause i really wanna see why u guys are ridin high on yourselves, hopefully we match up in a tournament...
<<RANGER>>
06-16-2008, 08:37 AM
i think that LBJ high will take the state title next year they are too good for the competion in the area
Yeah, and the Clippers are going to win the NBA Finals next year.....
Anyway, I hoping Fort Bend has what it takes this year to finally step up and have our first winning season in like what? 7 Years?
We lost several key seniors, especially on Defense, but with them goes a little bit of a bad attitude and they'll be replaced on defense with a junior who has plenty of varsity playing time and a freshman who is has been good enough to start on varsity since like the 7th grade. It'll be tough to replace Ben at goalie (hehe that's my problem) and our offense loses two of our starting attack but we should be able to fill that void with players moving up from jv and some outstanding middies. Definitely look out for us in 2010 though, we only have two seniors this year, and neither one of them starts.:thumbsup:
TXD2LAX
06-16-2008, 03:45 PM
Yeah, and the Clippers are going to win the NBA Finals next year.....
Anyway, I hoping Fort Bend has what it takes this year to finally step up and have our first winning season in like what? 7 Years?
We lost several key seniors, especially on Defense, but with them goes a little bit of a bad attitude and they'll be replaced on defense with a junior who has plenty of varsity playing time and a freshman who is has been good enough to start on varsity since like the 7th grade. It'll be tough to replace Ben at goalie (hehe that's my problem) and our offense loses two of our starting attack but we should be able to fill that void with players moving up from jv and some outstanding middies. Definitely look out for us in 2010 though, we only have two seniors this year, and neither one of them starts.:thumbsup:
It must have been nice for Fort Bend to actually be able to field a viable JV this past seasn. Combine that with a Middle School program going into its what fourth year and you guys will start to show some spunk. Good goalies are always hard to replace. The catch is that if your goalie is really good his replacement hardly ever get real HS varsity experience until it is dumped into his lap as the starter. Best of luck. I have always had to utmost respect for Rusty. I think he could finally start to get what he has deserved for so long.
Sorry to change the subject but didn't want to start another thread about Texas lacrosse after the other one finally died off.
Anyone read the article in the Austin paper that is posted on the THSLL website?
Thoughts or opinions?
laximum
06-17-2008, 07:49 AM
Sorry to change the subject but didn't want to start another thread about Texas lacrosse after the other one finally died off.
Anyone read the article in the Austin paper that is posted on the THSLL website?
Thoughts or opinions?
I wonder about the quality of coaches in a UIL setting but maybe over time that would get better because of paid positions. A lacrosse player who wants to be a coach would have a career path under the UIL platform. What would be a short term problem could be a long term solution for coaches. Maybe they could have booster clubs do fund raising to pay for outside assistants who know the game in the short run (I doubt it but it is a possible short term solution). Some of our current coaches may not survive the transition to UIL because they could or would not work at a school.
The quality of athletes would increase in the sport. Some of the boys who play now would not get the opportunity to play under UIL. If they played, they may not see the same playing time. Great for the sport but a lost opportunity for some of our smaller players who have they are great lacrosse players.
Teams in areas who have pulled players from multiple schools will suffer as the players are split up and their teams are filled with first time players at the varsity level. Current single high school teams will be at an advantage since they would have more practice time and fields to play on and experienced varsity players on the field at all positions. Again, this is a short term problem with a long term solution. There will be more teams and more resources for the teams.
Under UIL, will every team in a district have a lacrosse team? What happens if a high school does not have enough players interested to field a team? Will current players in those schools be out of luck? Let's use Klein as an example. Will Klein players from Klein Oak or Klein Forest have enough players at their school to field a team. If you look at the Klein roster, the answer appears to be no. Would going UIL actually reduce the involvement of lacrosse in Texas? I do not ask these questions as an argument against UIL, I simply do not know the answer and would be against anything that kept a current player from being able to play.
These are impulse responses and are not fully thought out so I expect strong rebuttles.
TXD2LAX
06-17-2008, 08:16 AM
I think it is a good thing that they are talking about it. This would eventually open the door to MORE kids playing this sport than we currently have. My own son will start college in the fall. He wants to major in education so he can bring his NCAA DIII experience back to Texas and coach. This would be a huge way to get some of these guys that just graduated HS to return with knowledge of NCAA Lacrosse.
laximum
06-17-2008, 09:33 AM
I think it is a good thing that they are talking about it. This would eventually open the door to MORE kids playing this sport than we currently have. My own son will start college in the fall. He wants to major in education so he can bring his NCAA DIII experience back to Texas and coach. This would be a huge way to get some of these guys that just graduated HS to return with knowledge of NCAA Lacrosse.
If we fast forward to the future under UIL lacrosse, would your son have gotten the same oportunity to play lacrosse? He is definitely one of the better goalies in the area but he and the Klein goalie were small in stature in middle school and early high school. They would not have been a standout in the athletic catagory. My second point was that, although these were both outstanding players, they may not have been given the same opportunities under UIL due to their size and would not have been able to develop into the outstanding players they were. They may not be going to a DIII school to play lacrosse and thus may not be returning to Texas to coach. I know this is a weak argument because players like these may find their way in a UIL program but I think it is a possibility that they may have been left behind under a UIL system.
I am actually in favor of moving to UIL but I think there will be down sides to the move and they should be managed to soften the blow. Manage the short term problems to give time for the long term solutions to take effect. It is good to hear that there are current players who plan to return to coach. It would be great to having a paying job waiting for them.
I am sure officiating will leave something to be desired as they go through the growing pains of finding officials for all the UIL games but this would also be a short term problem as the UIL system would probably attract more officials for lacrosse (hopefully).
TXD2LAX
06-17-2008, 10:42 AM
I think both JJ and my son would have found there way into UIL. By first falling in love with the sport, then the work ethic they both have. Many football players do not put forth great offseason work ethic which both of these have done. Going to camps and contently working on there game. Not every kid that has asperations of playing HS football has been able to do so. But that has by no means slowed the sport down. I think it would definately have a positive effect on officiating. There would be more structure in their training and I do feel there would be more consistency in the way games are called. Plus it would open up a whole off football season world to the officials already involved in UIL.
Short term there will always be bumps, but the long term picture would be a great landscape. I do not think or want it to happen overnight. I think it is great that our sport has finally garnered enough attention to even be discussed by UIL.
spartanlax
06-17-2008, 10:55 AM
I would imagine when lacrosse goes UIL they will make an amendment like they did in California saying coaches don't have to be employed full-time by the schools. There are just not enough coaches in the state to have it any other way, while maintaining the rise of the sport.
coaches gal
06-17-2008, 12:52 PM
from what I understand about UIL [and I could be wrong] assistant coaches do not have to work for the district, only the head coach.
That would allow current coaches not able to work for the district to assist the head coach on area's of lacrosse of which he's probably not versed.
I do think smaller kids would be able to play if we train the coaches correctly. Lacrosse is a great sport because it takes players of all sizes and athleticism.
I agree there would be short term bumps, but better for the sport in the long run.
When wrestling went UIL it opened the sport to kids who wouldn't have thought of it or who didn't have the money for club programs.
There's also nothing precluding the state from having club or rec teams like they do in football, baseball, soccer, etc. Those really dedicated to the sport would still be able to play for those teams and have the opportunity for travel, etc.
UIL would also bring an established set of rules for the booster/parent organizations, etc that is currently lacking.
It would also bring a way to enforce the no-pass no-play sentiment that most teams try to abide by [but because of privacy issues have to rely on the 'honor system' of the parents and players].
It is definately something the league needs to look at.
One question, if it takes years of presenting the sport to UIL before actually being accepted, why isn't the league presenting now?
Good points by all.
I was pretty disappointed by the tone of the article, sounded defeatist and pessimistic to me. I understand quotes can be taken out of context but the comments by the three men captured in the article, two DI coaches and a former commish, seemed negative. "There's just not enough teams", "We may have a ways to go" and the paint analogy about a primer and that you've got to cover all your bases maybe four times was too much.
Lacrosse has been played by high school teams in Texas for 20 years, going from 2 teams to over 70, how many coats of paint does it take?
Not enough teams? How many girls high school wrestling teams were out there before they went UIL, or boys wrestling teams for that matter.
While admitedly I don't know all the facts, let's look at wrestling as they were added to UIL in 1999. I'd guess wrestling, at least in South Texas, wasn't around for 20 years prior to being adopted, I think it was closer to 12 years according to two friends who are wrestling coaches. So how come wrestling could do it while lacrosse can't.
If lacrosse waits and doesn't force the issue it might never happen.
According to the UIL website there seems to be nealry 200 boys wrestling teams and well over 100 girls high school teams statewide. Were there really all those girls out there wrestling on clubs and waiting to join their high school team or did the sport get big AFTER it became UIL. I'd argue it's a cart and horse thing. If a school adopts it first, hires a coach and recruits kids to a team, then kids will try out and you'll fill rosters with new kids that maybe have never participated.
The article says the sport is popular in Austin and Dallas but under the radar in other parts of the state. Houston ISD has 8 high school wrestling teams, most at innner city schools. I'm pretty certain the kids on those teams had never wrestled before, just like they've probably never heard of lacrosse. So, it can be done.
Long ago I went to an inner city high school up north. I had never wrestled with a club or anywhere else before going to high school. I was pretty small for football so I tried out for the wrestling team and made it. It turned out to be a great experience. My oldest son was like many kids who used to do summersaults and flips off the diving board at our community pool. As a freshman with no experience, he came home and said he was going to try out for the high school swim team as a diver. He made the team that year, worked hard and became an All-State diver, qualifed for the Jr. Olymipic Nationals and earned a diving scholarship to a D1 school.
My point with those analogies is it's kind of like the line from Field of Dreams, "If you build it they will come." All 6 Katy high schools have a team along with every Cy-Fair high school. Laximum mentioned Klein. All 4 of their schools have teams. Were there that many kids waiting in the wings. I know the rosters are smaller so it's easier to fill out a team and you might not even have a kid for every weight class. Also, the expense for the school is much less due to equipment etc. Yet, it can be done.
Waiting for enough teams, (as you can tell I think we have enough already) and the suggestion that lacrosse needs more primer and coats of paint is a joke! IMO.
I think it would be great for the sport and long past due.
TXD2LAX
06-18-2008, 11:49 AM
The league itself has never done anything to grow the sport. It has only facilitated it. You will not see the head leadership go out and find coaches or find officials. They wont go and try to get the game started in places that would seem out of the norm. We NEED leaders that want to help the growth, and stop coming up with ways to only help particular groups or areas. It will help now that we have 3 US Lacrosse chapters, but the THSLL needs to take a more active role. It has the visibility and needs to use that to spur us toward UIL. Not just be satisfied with what we have. Example: they did go ahead with the DIII concept, but rather than placing teams in that division so they could play at a level more suited to their team and letting them play towards a championship of their own, they decided not to have a championship. Therefore many of the teams that would have benefited from that division chose to stay in DII. There was no incentive. Heck there was even talk of no DII championship. The fact that ONLY DI coaches have ever been able to vote for All-American. Thus many talented DII players have gone unrecognized with this great honor. How does that help???
btclax
06-18-2008, 09:08 PM
UIL would help the sport I believe...just think of all the players they would get if they didnt have to pay dues....right now you have very talented athletes that can not afford to pay dues to play plus but equipment and a couple of sticks...the coaches thing would work itself out...the schools would be smart and figure a way to hire the coaches that know the game...we all know that the people in charge are not looking out for the game...
lonestarlax
06-19-2008, 08:32 AM
I would hate to think "that the people in charge are not looking out for the game..."
Florida recently went their version of UIL. I hear some people are still unhappy. You can't please everybody.
How's this for a conspiracy theory: Who is the most powerful lobby in the world of Texas High School sports? My guess would be the football coaches. How many stories have we heard about football coaches either forbidding their players from playing lacrosse, or letting them know in code that playing lacrosse will severely impact their place on the football team.
High School football in Texas is a year-round sport from the actual fall season to off-season training to spring football to summer 7-man football and camps. I know of starting lacrosse players who asked their football coach for some understanding during lacrosse play-offs only to be punished with extra sprints an hour before the actual lax play-off game.
If I were truly a conspiracy theorist, I would conjecture that the last thing Texas HS football coaches want is to compete head-to-head with the attractiveness of lacrosse. Pick out any big-city urban Texas high school with a strong football tradition but zero exposure to lacrosse. What happens if some of their "naturally athletically gifted" players get a hold of a stick and discover the opportunities that might appear for a laser fast, tough, quick as greased lightning lacrosse player? Compare the appeal of being a 2nd string running back or a 3rd string receiver to being an All-State middie...
From what I have seen in the past, Highland Park football and lacrosse seem to coexist well (look at the Dickensons for example). That's the east coast mentality. I watched the New York state HS lacrosse championships this past weekend (Thank You Dish Satellite) and heard over and over again how this player was also the quarterback of the football team or that player was an all-county defensive end etc.
I don't know if the TX HS football culture will ever accept lacrosse. That's a shame. We know that lacrosse is the perfect off-season program for football. Running, footwork, hand-eye coordination, toughness, discipline, team work, I guess that stuff isn't important in football.
Does anyone think that if one (or some) of the Texas colleges takes the step to NCAA status for their lacrosse team it would matter to UIL?
wallabear
06-19-2008, 12:17 PM
From what I have seen in the past, Highland Park football and lacrosse seem to coexist well (look at the Dickensons for example).
HP fotball and lax coexist?
You're kidding. Us on D2 had to sneak into the stadium to practice at 8:30 at night 2 days before state because the AD said we couldnt practice because football needed the field at that time when they were done at 3:30.
TXD2LAX
06-19-2008, 12:46 PM
I would hate to think "that the people in charge are not looking out for the game..."
Florida recently went their version of UIL. I hear some people are still unhappy. You can't please everybody.
How's this for a conspiracy theory: Who is the most powerful lobby in the world of Texas High School sports? My guess would be the football coaches. How many stories have we heard about football coaches either forbidding their players from playing lacrosse, or letting them know in code that playing lacrosse will severely impact their place on the football team.
High School football in Texas is a year-round sport from the actual fall season to off-season training to spring football to summer 7-man football and camps. I know of starting lacrosse players who asked their football coach for some understanding during lacrosse play-offs only to be punished with extra sprints an hour before the actual lax play-off game.
If I were truly a conspiracy theorist, I would conjecture that the last thing Texas HS football coaches want is to compete head-to-head with the attractiveness of lacrosse. Pick out any big-city urban Texas high school with a strong football tradition but zero exposure to lacrosse. What happens if some of their "naturally athletically gifted" players get a hold of a stick and discover the opportunities that might appear for a laser fast, tough, quick as greased lightning lacrosse player? Compare the appeal of being a 2nd string running back or a 3rd string receiver to being an All-State middie...
From what I have seen in the past, Highland Park football and lacrosse seem to coexist well (look at the Dickensons for example). That's the east coast mentality. I watched the New York state HS lacrosse championships this past weekend (Thank You Dish Satellite) and heard over and over again how this player was also the quarterback of the football team or that player was an all-county defensive end etc.
I don't know if the TX HS football culture will ever accept lacrosse. That's a shame. We know that lacrosse is the perfect off-season program for football. Running, footwork, hand-eye coordination, toughness, discipline, team work, I guess that stuff isn't important in football.
Does anyone think that if one (or some) of the Texas colleges takes the step to NCAA status for their lacrosse team it would matter to UIL?
I agree that our biggest hurdle will be football coaches. And yes, it would make a BIG difference to have NCAA ball here in the Lone Star State. I think we should be targeting the school boards with the fact there are so many kids playing football that never step a foot over the sideline. That this sport would provide very atheletic kids an opportunity to compete at a high level. The folks in Dallas that brought the NCAA games this spring break need to work with the other 2 main areas of the state to get more games all over the state. It will not do any good if only one area hosts everything. Those of you that have done things in this sport that were not a direct benefit to you, your son, or the team you are associated with I applaud you, and challenge to keep coming up with ways to do it. Now that we have 3 US lacrosse chapters they will need to work together. It will be very hard for them to do this, that is why I suggested the THSLL step up. If you are a leader in this organization and you do nothing to spread the sport, then please by all means STEP DOWN.
<<RANGER>>
06-20-2008, 10:18 AM
My only concern is what would happen to current players whose high schools chose not to adopt lacrosse. Would they let us transfer to play sports, or let us play for another school? Fort Bend draws from the entire school district, and we get zero support from Fort Bend ISD. We have about 80% of our players coming from one school, with the rest of us spread out over 3-4 other schools, as well as homeschooled players.
If lacrosse was added it would probably take a couple of years to get rolling. For example, if it was voted in today they might not start playing UIL till the spring of 2010. So, the rising seniors would have aready graduated.
Not positive what wreslting did but I think that when districts decided to add the sport most did it in every school even though not every school could field a whole team. (i.e. had at least one wrestler for every weight class). Not sure if the underrepresented schools each had/have their own coach or there was one coach for several teams in a district and they trained together.
One of the reasons it would be a challenge for lacrosse but worth it in the long run. Might have to take one step back (maybe lose some kids initially if their school didn't pick it up) in order to take two steps forward (get full support from the ISD in the form of fully paid coaches, fields to play on, unis/equipment, transportation to games, insurance, etc etc.)
SLLax07
06-21-2008, 09:26 PM
Lacrosse going UIL is the next evolutionary step in the sport in Texas, and Texas can easily oversome any hurdles associated with UIL. Colorado went CHSAA (UIL equivalent) in Boys lacrosse in the late '90's and went CHSAA girls in the 2000 or 2001. The sport has exploded in Colorado, all the way from 2nd grade teams through HS teams through LEGITIMATE select travel teams, through college recruiting and beyond. Colorado Lacrosse is light years ahead of Texas, and the two primary reasons is 1) the sport went CHSAA and 2) Colorado has two DI (Denver University & Air Force) and a DIII (Colorado College) college program.
Colorado schools were allowed to hire coaches as part time employees. I coached Girls Lacrosse and JK Mullen High in Denver as a part time employee. It was a situation everyone was happy with, of course you had to pass the background check for school employees.
THSLL and other entities (NTLOA? US Lacrosse?) need to be pushing for UIL in Texas as hard as they can. Even if it will not take effect for 5 years, UIL is the next logical step for the sport in Texas and needs to be whole heartedly endorsed by Texas Lacrosse Leadership. Once the sport goes UIL, there will be advancements and milestones reached that club programs could never do, even if unified (like in THSLL). Heck, Ryan Powell coached the JK MUllen Boys team for two years. Imagine getting a coach like Ryan Powell, or Joe Walters, or Brian Spalina here in Dallas because that person could also work in the financial sector, or as a teacher AND be part of a UIL program. I think everyone benefits from that.
Just my two cents....
SLLax07
06-22-2008, 07:43 PM
Anyway, I hoping Fort Bend has what it takes this year to finally step up and have our first winning season in like what? 7 Years?.... It'll be tough to replace Ben at goalie (hehe that's my problem) and our offense loses two of our starting attack but we should be able to fill that void with players moving up from jv and some outstanding middies.
Fort Bend had a good middie at T99. Logan, I think his name was, or something that begins with an "L". He will be a real asset to the team this year, I could tell in just the 8 games I coached him. Good Height, good speed, and developing stick skills. He just needs to get better off ball movement and quit some ball watching. Good luck to Fort Bend this year, I hope your team and specifically this middie do well......
lonestarlax
06-23-2008, 08:15 AM
"The sport has exploded in Colorado, all the way from 2nd grade teams through HS teams through LEGITIMATE select travel teams, through college recruiting and beyond"
What is the difference between a LEGITIMATE select travel team and an ILLEGITIMATE select travel team?
No being a smart-alec, just curious to hear your take.
Kleinlax-30
06-23-2008, 02:48 PM
I think going UIL is a great thing for the future but I think it would have alot of bumps like what would the kids whos schools don't have a team do? A good example would be our gollie last year, JJ went to Westfield and there is no way Westfield would have a team. Also atleast 30% of our team goes to Klein Oak or Klein Collins, would they be able to create new teams or still be able to play for Klein? Also what would they do for coaching because im pretty sure to be a coach you still have to teach a class, most of the coaches whould then quite because they already have jobs. Which means unless teams get lucky and find a good coach they would probaly be tought by someone who learned lacrosse off of internet.
But all of these things would be short term and in the long term when the coaching is fixed, it would make the sport way more competitive and gain alot more participants and teams.
Does any one have any more news about lacrosse going UIL?
KOLax25
06-23-2008, 06:24 PM
I think going UIL is a great thing for the future but I think it would have alot of bumps like what would the kids whos schools don't have a team do? A good example would be our gollie last year, JJ went to Westfield and there is no way Westfield would have a team. Also atleast 30% of our team goes to Klein Oak or Klein Collins, would they be able to create new teams or still be able to play for Klein? Also what would they do for coaching because im pretty sure to be a coach you still have to teach a class, most of the coaches whould then quite because they already have jobs. Which means unless teams get lucky and find a good coach they would probaly be tought by someone who learned lacrosse off of internet.
But all of these things would be short term and in the long term when the coaching is fixed, it would make the sport way more competitive and gain alot more participants and teams.
Does any one have any more news about lacrosse going UIL?
i think your a vagina :rofl:
SLLax07
06-23-2008, 06:45 PM
What is the difference between a LEGITIMATE select travel team and an ILLEGITIMATE select travel team?
About $300 per season.....Ba-dum-bump.
Seriously, the difference is the coaching & the coordination, the mission statement of the team, and how successful they were in fulfilling that mission statement. Are you getting recruiting exposure for the players, or are you just getting extra playing time at neat venue's (Vail, OC Md, etc). Both are legitimate as long as everyone knows that's what the goal of the team is. Also, if recruiting or exposure is the mission statement, how well are the coaches connected? Can they (the team coaches) call college coaches, college assistant coaches, or other sources to get looks, or are you hoping college coaches will be at the venue you will be playing at?
I've been associated with both types of select travel teams: ones that legitimately presented the players on a national spotlight, where the coaches (coordinators) could call coaches from Plymouth State, West Chester, Rutgers and assistant coaches from ND, N'western and Penn to make sure there was a presence. And I've been associated with select teams whose sole motive is to make sure the coaches (coordinators) make their money. BTW, both were elite level women's lacrosse, not men's, so please don't start the guessing game.
Does that help?
N1664G
06-23-2008, 10:42 PM
Well I'm a varsity starting tight end at Alamo Heights high school in San Antonio, but I play lacrosse for St.Anthony cause I've been with them since the start of my high school career. I've heard that the chances of the UIL starting a lacrosse league is highly unlikely to happen within the next 3 years only because one factor is that Texas is a football driven state. If we were to have lacrosse started by the UIL then that means less football / athletes getting better (physically)and giving their full devotion to football or the sport they play . When lacrosse first started at Alamo Heights all the football players that were eager to join were given a hard time not only by the students but by the coaches as well. One coach said "Go Ahead!! Waste your time playing that gay sport." Thus giving me my next example is that most high school football coaches dislike lacrosse . For them its the whole mentality that why play lacrosse, a sport that isn't recognized by the UIL, when you could be weight lifting and preparing for next year football. And for the record, not all Texas Ftbl coaches are like this, but most of them are. I love playing lacrosse more than anything and it angers me the way people think of it in Texas. But as said by others lacrosse is on the rise all across the US. So until there is an acceptance by all football or every coach in general then as said, by the Austin American Statesmen, its just a wait and see scenario.
Kleinlax-30
06-24-2008, 11:20 AM
i think your a vagina :rofl:
Thanks alot
:chair::guns:
KOLax25
06-24-2008, 06:50 PM
:imparied::jawdrop:no problem buddy:argue:
sscgulls
06-25-2008, 10:20 PM
Well I'm a varsity starting tight end at Alamo Heights high school in San Antonio, but I play lacrosse for St.Anthony cause I've been with them since the start of my high school career. I've heard that the chances of the UIL starting a lacrosse league is highly unlikely to happen within the next 3 years only because one factor is that Texas is a football driven state. If we were to have lacrosse started by the UIL then that means less football / athletes getting better (physically)and giving their full devotion to football or the sport they play . When lacrosse first started at Alamo Heights all the football players that were eager to join were given a hard time not only by the students but by the coaches as well. One coach said "Go Ahead!! Waste your time playing that gay sport." Thus giving me my next example is that most high school football coaches dislike lacrosse . For them its the whole mentality that why play lacrosse, a sport that isn't recognized by the UIL, when you could be weight lifting and preparing for next year football. And for the record, not all Texas Ftbl coaches are like this, but most of them are. I love playing lacrosse more than anything and it angers me the way people think of it in Texas. But as said by others lacrosse is on the rise all across the US. So until there is an acceptance by all football or every coach in general then as said, by the Austin American Statesmen, its just a wait and see scenario.
Everyone needs to take a look at the Friendswood Lacrosse program. Cooperation from the Football Head Coach / AD and the Lacrosse Coach.
They put on a great show for the D1 & D2 State Championships!
Look for Steve Kirk of Friendswood to be a big leader in advancing the game of lacrosse in Texas.
By the way Comish Ormsby was very helpful to Steve in starting the Friendswood program.
btclax
07-01-2008, 01:21 PM
is there any team that is trying to go D1? or any team trying to drop down to D2? heard Plano West wants to come down. Any thoughts on D1s coming down?
lonestarlax
07-01-2008, 03:03 PM
What's up with the Plano West coach? Any truth to the rumor he's going to Plano East? If so, who is the new Plano West coach?
sscgulls
07-02-2008, 09:58 PM
Clear Lake did it again!!!!! Mike Ormsby was whacked as the Lake Girls Varsity Coach. A sad day for a guy who has given his all since the programs inception!!!!
Gobbler
07-03-2008, 07:21 AM
To clarify. Coach Ormsby was not there from the inception. He inherited a program that was ready to transition to Div 1 because of the hard work of some coaches that remain in obscurity. Those few of us that were there, from the beginning, and have since left due to whatever reason, are disappointed at the steady decline in what we once tried to build. The girls team now dwells at the bottom of the league after making playoff appearances in it's first two years (even posting a regular season win over St' Johnsin its first). The boys team seems to think Div.2 is a league unto itself and not a just stepping stone to success in Div 1.
Coach Ormsby came in just as the very first group of freshman boys where entering their junior year. In their senior years they reaped some success, in Div 1, because of the hard work and sacrifice of the previous three seasons.
I read the back and forth about Lake and it is very sad to see it become a shell of what it was first invisioned to be.
Coach O is a good guy, but hardly the coaching legend people are trying to make him out to be. I dont blame him though, the CLLA has taken over the previous coaches visions in lue of their own.
Good luck to coach Mike, he will make a colorful addition to a program someplace.
Lax Mom
07-03-2008, 02:42 PM
To clarify your statement, Ormsby was there for the very first group of Freshman boys when they were Soph's. He was not the head coach, but acted as the head coach for many games, and ran the majority of the practices during that year when the head coach -Steve Otillar was changing his law practice to downtown Houston.
He coached with Andy Carmain for the 01-02 year, with Carmain doing much travelling due to work commitments, with the team winning over 20 games during the preseason and regular season. He coached them during the 02-03 year and won the Lake Tournament and TAMU tournament and during Lake's first year in DI, beat Episcopal, Woodlands (3X), Kingwood, Plano, Strake, Lamar, Parkway South of St. Louis, and lost to St. Johns by 1 goal in O/T. I disagree that all that success can be attributed to 1 year prior to his arrival. I should know. My son played for him for three years. Colorful yes, knowledgeable yes. Doing it his way - yes. He may have come off as abrasive to some, but his boys loved playing for him.
TXD2LAX
07-03-2008, 04:01 PM
Mike has also never been one to take credit for anything he has done. Lake has really spiraled out of control sad to say. The last time I checked there website was not even working. That is too bad for all the young guys and gals that are just starting to play there. Hopefully they will be able to turn things around. I think this slide downward started at the same time they cancelled their tournament just minutes before the first games were to begin. It mat be a coincidence, but I do know there was some backlash enternally and externally.
Gobbler
07-05-2008, 09:44 AM
To clarify your statement, Ormsby was there for the very first group of Freshman boys when they were Soph's. He was not the head coach, but acted as the head coach for many games, and ran the majority of the practices during that year when the head coach -Steve Otillar was changing his law practice to downtown Houston.
He coached with Andy Carmain for the 01-02 year, with Carmain doing much travelling due to work commitments, with the team winning over 20 games during the preseason and regular season. He coached them during the 02-03 year and won the Lake Tournament and TAMU tournament and during Lake's first year in DI, beat Episcopal, Woodlands (3X), Kingwood, Plano, Strake, Lamar, Parkway South of St. Louis, and lost to St. Johns by 1 goal in O/T. I disagree that all that success can be attributed to 1 year prior to his arrival. I should know. My son played for him for three years. Colorful yes, knowledgeable yes. Doing it his way - yes. He may have come off as abrasive to some, but his boys loved playing for him.
I was there from the beginning too. Coached the boys AND girls until they found a boys coach. Had success with the girls until the CLLA decided it knew better than experienced lacrosse coaches.
Lighten up, I'n not digging on coach Mike. But thanks for discounting all the work I had to do before he got there.
Gonna give him credit for his goalie those years too? Again, thanks.
sscgulls
07-06-2008, 09:35 AM
I was there from the beginning too. Coached the boys AND girls until they found a boys coach. Had success with the girls until the CLLA decided it knew better than experienced lacrosse coaches.
Lighten up, I'n not digging on coach Mike. But thanks for discounting all the work I had to do before he got there.
Gonna give him credit for his goalie those years too? Again, thanks.
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"Had success with the girls until the CLLA decided it knew better than experienced lacrosse coaches." Nice comment!!!!
Lake has a history to losing good coaches on the Boys & Girls side! Your comment "CLLA decided it knew better" is typical of the thought process in your organization.
Lake is in trouble from top to bottom in both programs. The lack to proper conduct on and off the field by coaches and players does not project a "proper image" for the sport. But again, I guess one would need to play the sport to understand where I am coming from on this subject. It's kind of like the Bad News Bears with sticks!!!
As the say "The fish rots from the head down".
TXD2LAX
07-06-2008, 06:05 PM
But with coach Furdon and his great sideline manner, they are looking to turn it all around.:ahhno:
kleinlax-75
07-06-2008, 06:14 PM
But with coach Furdon and his great sideline manner, they are looking to turn it all around.:ahhno:i remember jim rowan trying to help one of lakes injured players when we first played them and furdon screamed at him to not touch his players, i found it a little lame cause he was only trying to be considerate towards an injured player no matter what team he is on
rockwall[jv]
07-09-2008, 02:12 PM
I'm from Rockwall, and this upcoming season will be our first varsity.Where do they usually stick newer teams like that in terms of divisions?
kleinlax-75
07-09-2008, 11:05 PM
;1633177']I'm from Rockwall, and this upcoming season will be our first varsity.Where do they usually stick newer teams like that in terms of divisions?division three for now on i think unless they choose to go directly to DII, i think
SLCgoalie11
07-10-2008, 11:15 AM
do you guys not play outdoor in the summer in the south? I know there is Team Texas and Lonestar in Houston as far as select goes
SLCgoalie11
07-10-2008, 11:27 AM
Will they have to move colleyville to d2 because they won state in d3? because I know there is talk about a few d2 teams moving down
bellairelax713
07-10-2008, 04:11 PM
I would hate to think "that the people in charge are not looking out for the game..."
Florida recently went their version of UIL. I hear some people are still unhappy. You can't please everybody.
How's this for a conspiracy theory: Who is the most powerful lobby in the world of Texas High School sports? My guess would be the football coaches. How many stories have we heard about football coaches either forbidding their players from playing lacrosse, or letting them know in code that playing lacrosse will severely impact their place on the football team.
High School football in Texas is a year-round sport from the actual fall season to off-season training to spring football to summer 7-man football and camps. I know of starting lacrosse players who asked their football coach for some understanding during lacrosse play-offs only to be punished with extra sprints an hour before the actual lax play-off game.
If I were truly a conspiracy theorist, I would conjecture that the last thing Texas HS football coaches want is to compete head-to-head with the attractiveness of lacrosse. Pick out any big-city urban Texas high school with a strong football tradition but zero exposure to lacrosse. What happens if some of their "naturally athletically gifted" players get a hold of a stick and discover the opportunities that might appear for a laser fast, tough, quick as greased lightning lacrosse player? Compare the appeal of being a 2nd string running back or a 3rd string receiver to being an All-State middie...
From what I have seen in the past, Highland Park football and lacrosse seem to coexist well (look at the Dickensons for example). That's the east coast mentality. I watched the New York state HS lacrosse championships this past weekend (Thank You Dish Satellite) and heard over and over again how this player was also the quarterback of the football team or that player was an all-county defensive end etc.
I don't know if the TX HS football culture will ever accept lacrosse. That's a shame. We know that lacrosse is the perfect off-season program for football. Running, footwork, hand-eye coordination, toughness, discipline, team work, I guess that stuff isn't important in football.
Does anyone think that if one (or some) of the Texas colleges takes the step to NCAA status for their lacrosse team it would matter to UIL?
could an MCLA team moves to NCAA
the only Texas team that would do well is Texas a&m
Southswell
07-10-2008, 04:15 PM
my predictions
south:
1. klein
2. memorial
3. swlc
central:
1. CP (if they stay D2)
2. stoney point (i heard good things)
3. TMI
north:
1. Coppell
2. HPII
3. Allen
are you kidding austin high will wreck on any central team.
btclax
07-10-2008, 04:16 PM
;1633177']I'm from Rockwall, and this upcoming season will be our first varsity.Where do they usually stick newer teams like that in terms of divisions?
D3 is where new teams go until they prove they can compete at D2....
TXD2LAX
07-10-2008, 04:17 PM
could an MCLA team moves to NCAA
the only Texas team that would do well is Texas a&m
TITLE IX will keep that from happening for a long time. UT has a decent team as well. The problem is they would be in NCAA DI, not II or III. I do not think either of those two teams could compete even with the lower end DI teams.
btclax
07-10-2008, 04:18 PM
and no D2 teams in the north are going down...plus collyville did not win state at D3...D3 does not have state
kleinlax-75
07-10-2008, 04:46 PM
are you kidding austin high will wreck on any central team.yes but Austin high is DI, i was predicting for DII
SLCgoalie11
07-10-2008, 05:27 PM
They have a tri state tournament for lower level teams and they consider it the state tournament... If you look on the North texas lax website or colleyvilles site it says theyre d3 state champs
TXD2LAX
07-10-2008, 05:47 PM
If it is a Tri-State tourney, how does a team get named State Champ????
sscgulls
07-10-2008, 06:47 PM
Mike has also never been one to take credit for anything he has done. Lake has really spiraled out of control sad to say. The last time I checked there website was not even working. That is too bad for all the young guys and gals that are just starting to play there. Hopefully they will be able to turn things around. I think this slide downward started at the same time they cancelled their tournament just minutes before the first games were to begin. It mat be a coincidence, but I do know there was some backlash enternally and externally.
In truth, they are horrible people!
SLCgoalie11
07-10-2008, 08:26 PM
I dont know Im sure there is some explanation but the championship was colleyville vs. some lousiana team and colleyville gets the d3 state championship title it makes no sense
btclax
07-10-2008, 10:23 PM
well they are not....they had a district champ and that is it....there is no D3 state championship....they should not have it on their site...they are staying D3 too....
SLCgoalie11
07-11-2008, 01:12 AM
Is North going to be the same next year?
Kleinlax-67
07-14-2008, 01:26 PM
I dont see how numeruno or whatever can say he see's nothing from klein indoor when we play the other team always gets to pick up the college kids not from lack of players but so there is a level of competetion when there are none we slaughter. And people at the last indoor game adults who play said its klein and memorial to take the south so thats the general consensus.
numero uno
07-14-2008, 02:40 PM
I dont see how numeruno or whatever can say he see's nothing from klein indoor when we play the other team always gets to pick up the college kids not from lack of players but so there is a level of competetion when there are none we slaughter. And people at the last indoor game adults who play said its klein and memorial to take the south so thats the general consensus.
oh no u have to play with college kids u poor thing, i have played with them for 4 years, it makes u better, u get better when u play w better ppl i dont even play at the highschool indoor league cause its not a challenge, and memorial is a good young experienced team i have nothing against them. i said i saw ur team play and wasnt impressed w you or 75 (the two ppl who insist are so good and talk the most:nono:) or your team. i can say this because i watched them and i don't think ur very good. and u still dont realize how big a loss jj was to u:idea:. u will figure it out very very soon. and adults can say all they want or wat they believe in, i sure as hell do. bottom line i dont think klein will be nearly as good as they believe:bull:
but i do like how u at least man up and stick with ur team, but start letting ur talent do the talk and dont rely on wat team parents have to say to back urself up
TXD2LAX
07-14-2008, 03:10 PM
I have a feelng the South is going to be an all out brawl, with VERY little finesse. Back to the stone age.
kleinlax-75
07-14-2008, 04:08 PM
oh no u have to play with college kids u poor thing, i have played with them for 4 years, it makes u better, u get better when u play w better ppl i dont even play at the highschool indoor league cause its not a challenge, and memorial is a good young experienced team i have nothing against them. i said i saw ur team play and wasnt impressed w you or 75 (the two ppl who insist are so good and talk the most:nono:) or your team. i can say this because i watched them and i don't think ur very good. and u still dont realize how big a loss jj was to u:idea:. u will figure it out very very soon. and adults can say all they want or wat they believe in, i sure as hell do. bottom line i dont think klein will be nearly as good as they believe:bull:
but i do like how u at least man up and stick with ur team, but start letting ur talent do the talk and dont rely on wat team parents have to say to back urself upim pretty sure we do know how big of a loss JJ Rowan was, not only cause hes our former great teammate but because he is one of my good friends as well.
and i dont care if you werent impressed with what you saw for the short time you saw us play, i know i can score goals and make accurate feeds for assists and whatnot, it doesnt matter what you think about our skill level.
so how bout next season YOU go ahead and try to shut us up if it really gets to you so much and leave it at that buddy, until then i guess you can get over it
MEMLAX1
07-14-2008, 08:08 PM
I have a feelng the South is going to be an all out brawl, with VERY little finesse. Back to the stone age.
Really, what makes you think that? At least at memorial we are returning all but two of our starters. Sure the bottom level teams will be more physical, but I don't think it will be any different from other seasons. I think this will be a great season because the number one spot is up for grabs.
numero uno
07-15-2008, 10:07 AM
im pretty sure we do know how big of a loss JJ Rowan was, not only cause hes our former great teammate but because he is one of my good friends as well.
and i dont care if you werent impressed with what you saw for the short time you saw us play, i know i can score goals and make accurate feeds for assists and whatnot, it doesnt matter what you think about our skill level.
so how bout next season YOU go ahead and try to shut us up if it really gets to you so much and leave it at that buddy, until then i guess you can get over it
:lol:
u were the one who started saying that taylor had nobody and that klein was going to be the team to "run" the south. i said that taylor had good quality players. then wanted to see why u and ur pal had run your mouth about u guys being so good so i went to one of ur indoor games and wasn't impressed at all from wat i saw. i dont even remember u being on the same field as me last year so u didnt stick out nor did anyone else but jj. i dont think u are as good as u think u r nor your team. if u disagree then next year prove it. noone on your team got even an honorable mention except ur already graduated goalie. so for u to say u guys are going to run the south and that taylor has noone when we had someone who got all district and is returning then that would make u wrong. :ahhno:
Kleinlax-67
07-15-2008, 10:58 AM
oh no u have to play with college kids u poor thing, i have played with them for 4 years, it makes u better, u get better when u play w better ppl i dont even play at the highschool indoor league cause its not a challenge, and memorial is a good young experienced team i have nothing against them. i said i saw ur team play and wasnt impressed w you or 75 (the two ppl who insist are so good and talk the most:nono:) or your team. i can say this because i watched them and i don't think ur very good. and u still dont realize how big a loss jj was to u:idea:. u will figure it out very very soon. and adults can say all they want or wat they believe in, i sure as hell do. bottom line i dont think klein will be nearly as good as they believe:bull:
but i do like how u at least man up and stick with ur team, but start letting ur talent do the talk and dont rely on wat team parents have to say to back urself up
At no point did he or myself say that we personally we are good we said our TEAM is good which they are we beat you but that isnt saying much. If you have been playing with college kids for 4 years why arent you just the hottest thing on the field?
numero uno
07-15-2008, 03:34 PM
At no point did he or myself say that we personally we are good we said our TEAM is good which they are we beat you but that isnt saying much. If you have been playing with college kids for 4 years why arent you just the hottest thing on the field?
mmm to bad my 52 points was more then double the next leading scorer on my team, my goalie and i were a 2 man wrecking crew. and yes u beat us last year, we were garbage, hardly anyone was deticated on my team. this is a tottaly diff yr, we bring up quality players, u lose ur two best players. like i said i watched your team play and compared it to how much u and ur pal talk about how good ur team is and i wasnt impressed.
TXD2LAX
07-15-2008, 04:55 PM
OK Klein guys, yes, you did beat Taylor last year. Many teams did, but remember you scored the second fewest goals you had all season against them. Now without the key seniors, especially JJ, it will be rough. It will be rough for Taylor without Chris, and unless Stratford has been hiding a replacement for Grant, it will be a long season for them. This was the best senior class of goalies in a long time. They all had their team's respect, and most had the respect from their opponents as well. I am very interested in what will happen in the South. I am not expecting fireworks, but I think we will all see some things we NEVER expected.
MEMLAX1
07-15-2008, 07:57 PM
I think basically everybody except for cyfair is losing their starting goalie.
TXD2LAX
07-15-2008, 08:14 PM
I dont think Cinco or Clear Lake are losing their keepers. Plus Cinco lost like only one starter. Some have looked impressive at Tuesday and Thursday summer league games.
kleinlax-75
07-16-2008, 12:40 AM
:lol:
u were the one who started saying that taylor had nobody and that klein was going to be the team to "run" the south. i said that taylor had good quality players. then wanted to see why u and ur pal had run your mouth about u guys being so good so i went to one of ur indoor games and wasn't impressed at all from wat i saw. i dont even remember u being on the same field as me last year so u didnt stick out nor did anyone else but jj. i dont think u are as good as u think u r nor your team. if u disagree then next year prove it. noone on your team got even an honorable mention except ur already graduated goalie. so for u to say u guys are going to run the south and that taylor has noone when we had someone who got all district and is returning then that would make u wrong. :ahhno:maybe go take a look back at my post cause you are definitely exaggerating what i said bro
and for the record the reason klein had nobody on all state or all district is because our coaches slacked and didnt go to the meeting nor did they send in their nominations, jj got honorable mention because the coordinator of the south for THSLL said he was too good to not have any recognition.
Kleinlax-67
07-16-2008, 09:38 AM
unless your banana shoes kid from taylor nobody knows who you are and the only reason we noticed him is because he spent half his time slipping and falling to the ground.
MEMLAX1
07-16-2008, 10:21 AM
I dont think Cinco or Clear Lake are losing their keepers. Plus Cinco lost like only one starter. Some have looked impressive at Tuesday and Thursday summer league games.
Yeah your right about cinco. I think cinco is the sleeper
Kleinlax-67
07-16-2008, 04:06 PM
Yeah your right about cinco. I think cinco is the sleeper
Yes they are after cy-fair destroyed them we were sure it was a cake walk last season and it was but man after the half they came out like it was a state game and closed the gap to 3 goals they are definitely good.
OldSchoolGuy
07-16-2008, 04:51 PM
In truth, they are horrible people!
O yup they are all horrible people in clear lake. Youre always right SSC.:worship:
How can people say that they are spiralling out of control and they arent making the right coaching decisions if they were 6-7 with the so-called great perouty and 8-5 with the so-called terrible John Furdon? He gets those kids to want to win and play and he had less talent than the year before with matt braud and joey latimer. O yeah they are way out of control!:lol:
OldSchoolGuy
07-16-2008, 05:22 PM
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"Had success with the girls until the CLLA decided it knew better than experienced lacrosse coaches." Nice comment!!!!
Lake has a history to losing good coaches on the Boys & Girls side! Your comment "CLLA decided it knew better" is typical of the thought process in your organization.
Lake is in trouble from top to bottom in both programs. The lack to proper conduct on and off the field by coaches and players does not project a "proper image" for the sport. But again, I guess one would need to play the sport to understand where I am coming from on this subject. It's kind of like the Bad News Bears with sticks!!!
As the say "The fish rots from the head down".
Didnt the bad news bears make it to the Championship game when someone starting caring about them and they tried? You need better metaphors.
OldSchoolGuy
07-16-2008, 05:27 PM
I think basically everybody except for cyfair is losing their starting goalie.
Clear Lake's still got Mikey Candler and i think Cinco still has their's right?
numero uno
07-17-2008, 10:37 AM
maybe go take a look back at my post cause you are definitely exaggerating what i said bro
and for the record the reason klein had nobody on all state or all district is because our coaches slacked and didnt go to the meeting nor did they send in their nominations, jj got honorable mention because the coordinator of the south for THSLL said he was too good to not have any recognition.
we also didnt have any of our coaches go bc we had a game that night and thats why we only had 1 all district and i got it for a position that i only played for a quarter of the game. at least ur goalie got something, our goalie didnt and he had a fantastic year, i think the reason jj was so low was cause the fortbend goalie got something when he didnt deserve it. the kid never even had a winning season and thats wat messed it all up.
im not gonna argue anymore about klein or taylor cause there really is no point until we play.
Kleinlax-67
07-17-2008, 12:43 PM
yeah I'm not really sweating next season too much anyway its my last season of lacrosse so i want to have as much fun with it as i can.
numero uno
07-17-2008, 01:26 PM
yeah I'm not really sweating next season too much anyway its my last season of lacrosse so i want to have as much fun with it as i can.
who is your guys captains?
r u gonna play college ball?
Kleinlax-67
07-17-2008, 02:27 PM
who is your guys captains?
r u gonna play college ball?
I could play club or low d3 but there are just too many hot shot attackmen and i'll be a senior so its a little late for recruitment but i'm going to try my best
No clue who are captains are it will probably be sean #9 skyler 75 and drew # 10
kleinlax-75
07-17-2008, 02:56 PM
who is your guys captains?
r u gonna play college ball?have you been picked up yet?
ive talked to a couple of coaches but i dont have anything to send them so i cant exactly get recruited
yea what klein67 said about the captains sounds about right too
numero uno
07-17-2008, 03:28 PM
have you been picked up yet?
ive talked to a couple of coaches but i dont have anything to send them so i cant exactly get recruited
yea what klein67 said about the captains sounds about right too
u dont have any film ugh that stinks. i am talkin to a lot of d2-d3 schools. that stinks tho that u have nothing to send them. even one filmed game will be good. did u not go to any recruiting camps??? if u have none then i would try goin to a good junior college in maryland or new york depending on where u r finacially.
kleinlax-75
07-17-2008, 03:52 PM
u dont have any film ugh that stinks. i am talkin to a lot of d2-d3 schools. that stinks tho that u have nothing to send them. even one filmed game will be good. did u not go to any recruiting camps??? if u have none then i would try goin to a good junior college in maryland or new york depending on where u r finacially.yea i will be able to send them something this season sometime, i know its late but its whatever i can do, i can deal with walking on also
Kleinlax-67
07-17-2008, 04:18 PM
well maybe not drew on captain bad attitude and always talks some trash but the other 2 for sure as captains
btclax
07-17-2008, 05:09 PM
saw this on laxpower
http://laxmagazine.cstv.com/sports/s-inter/spec-rel/071108aac.html
KOLax25
07-17-2008, 11:18 PM
skyler, dyldo, and numerouno stop the bickering and take it out on the field, hell this is the internet stop trying to act tough.:bull: skyler ill come out and be yalls captain next year :yumyum:
kleinlax-75
07-18-2008, 03:08 AM
skyler, dyldo, and numerouno stop the bickering and take it out on the field, hell this is the internet stop trying to act tough.:bull: skyler ill come out and be yalls captain next year :yumyum:cyle no you wont i would break you off like a kit kat, go do something in aggieland