If you could change a rule(s) in girls lacrosse what would it be and why?

[happykeeper]

If you could change a rule(s) in girls lacrosse what would it be and why?

My personal rule(s) change would be eliminating the dangerous shot and the obstruction of free space rules, because referees are blind and they sometimes have hard time distinguishing between these rules. Especially here in Oregon it can get really foggy.

Dangerous Shot Rule: Occurs when a player propels the ball toward the goal without control, or in the direction of a field player or the goalkeeper.

Obstruction of Free Space Rule: Occurs when a defender is not closely marking her opponent and is in the free space to goal of the attack player with the ball. The attack player must have the opportunity and be looking to shoot.

PS
Another rule I would change...
Three Seconds Rule: A defender may not stand within the eight meter arc, unless she is closely marking an opponent, for more than three seconds. I think it should be longer than three seconds.

[LO_LAXkeeper]

Dude tell me about it. I swear some of Oregon's refs are so blind! Another rule they totally need to change is the Deputy Rule!

[Laxergirl]

i agree about the dangerous shot rule but not so much about three seconds in the crease. it would clog up the lane and slow the game down somewhat. i may be looking at this in a wrong sense because im relating this to basketball and to me, if you take away three seconds in the crease, then its gonna be more like half court offense and way slowed down. kinda like how guys college plays where they set up and just pass pass pass. thats just like a half court offense and just makes it more boring.

[laxkay841]

at the moment, i would want to change the check toward the body rule, because if you think about it...nearly every check you make is TOWARDS the body but most never TOUCH the body ( i hope i'm making sense here, my apologies if i'm not ) also the required eyewear (yes, i know it's for our safety, and it does make perfect sense, but my reasoning is that it's just uncomfortable!!!) but the eyewear isn't too bad, i mean if you look at some of the eye injuries before goggles (ex. tiffany schummer from UVA) they are pretty bad. so far those are the only ones that comes to mind...if i think of more i will surely post them.

[SawyerLaxGirl44]

Dude tell me about it. I swear some of Oregon's refs are so blind! Another rule they totally need to change is the Deputy Rule!


What is the deputy rule? I'm really not all in-tuned to all of the rules, so I really don't know what I would change...

[Octane]

I'd change the goal circle violation where your stick (not your feet) carries thru the circle after a shot. Momentum can't be stopped. They could fix this by making the circle larger 2-3 meters in diameter.
Also, make hard boundries. If you throw a pass and your girl can't catch she doesn't deserve the ball just because she can sprint to the side line faster. This game is based on skills not biased for speedsters. One team we played had a set clearing play where they would hurl the ball right at the scorer's table so their fastest girl could sprint for it. The girl couldn't even cradel so the player just flipped it another player who was set up just behind her by design.
CAN'T THROW, CAN'T CATCH = CAN'T PLAY. Go sit on the sidelines and cheer your friends that can.

[laxkay841]

Originally Posted by SawerLaxGirl44
I'm really not all in-tuned to all of the rules, so I really don't know what I would change...

Not trying to be mean or anything here, but how can you play and not be "in-tune" with the rules? I mean you have to have some guidelines of what you can/can't do in order to be a good player, right?

Originally Posted by Octane
Also, make hard boundries. If you throw a pass and your girl can't catch she doesn't deserve the ball just because she can sprint to the side line faster. This game is based on skills not biased for speedsters. One team we played had a set clearing play where they would hurl the ball right at the scorer's table so their fastest girl could sprint for it. The girl couldn't even cradel so the player just flipped it another player who was set up just behind her by design.
CAN'T THROW, CAN'T CATCH = CAN'T PLAY. Go sit on the sidelines and cheer your friends that can.

Although sometimes I do appreciate the no boundaries rule, it does get on my nerves. When there are girls on the other team that can't catch, but they are fast enough to get to the ball before me or one of my other team mates do...that makes me really frusterated. It's almost like saying to the girl "Well, you don't have to practice since your speed carries you thru games". Yes, in the longrun it will hurt them (if they are truly dedicated to the sport)[not their speed, their lack of ability to catch/throw etc.,] but if we had hard boundaries, I think the game would be better along with the players that play the game. It would make things alot more competitive and alot more fun.

[SawyerLaxGirl44]

Not trying to be mean or anything here, but how can you play and not be "in-tune" with the rules? I mean you have to have some guidelines of what you can/can't do in order to be a good player, right?


Yes, I think knowing more of the rules would help me, but my coaches really never taught us the in-depth rules. I've only been playing for 9 months!! SORRY!!! I know the basics, no sticks or body in the crease but the goalie, shooting space (dont' understand) dangerous shot, the whole bounadaries thing, the checking rule, can't cover the ball...see, I do have some guidelines, just not as many as I would prefer!!

[Paul_Gait_RULZ]

i`d allow more pocket

i think the flow of the game would be a bit better with it

I played a mess around game with some team ontario girls using their rules and ona breakout they dropped our passes because of lack of pocket, witht he woodies you could get away without pokcet thanks to the cat gut wall

but, plastic head need have a bit of pocket

or, wear gloves and check more


I dunno, I guess it`s because more girls are taking up modified box lax than field lax up here, maybe there should be a field lax for women like the men`s game, i`d be curious

[laxkay841]

Originally Posted by SawyerLaxGirl44
Yes, I think knowing more of the rules would help me, but my coaches really never taught us the in-depth rules. I've only been playing for 9 months!! SORRY!!! I know the basics, no sticks or body in the crease but the goalie, shooting space (dont' understand) dangerous shot, the whole bounadaries thing, the checking rule, can't cover the ball...see, I do have some guidelines, just not as many as I would prefer!!


I have to admit, I was the same way. In any case, I forget what site it was, but I stumbled onto all these rules and actully I found myself that after taking a few days and reading through them all I really became a better player I think. It wasn't like I improved in stick skills and what not but I understood what was going on around me, which for me, made the game more fun. So if you ever find yourself with some free time, you may want to take advantage of the opportunity as well!

[sumSum]

Hey, I've been playing for like 10 years and I dont even know what the Deputy Rule is!

I would not change any of the above rules...I've never played against a team that intentionally threw the ball out of bounds. I would hope the team would have enough self-confidence and respect to their opponents that they would not try a move like throwing it out on purpose.

The only rule I'd change is the eyewear rule, though I doubt that even if USLacrosse took it away that anyone else would change it (aside from the NCAA maybe). The HS leagues would probably keep it as mandatory. Another rule I would change is to make it so that a defender can go in the crease but not the offensive player.

[ShutDown]

no crease... and no slashing/checking rules. 'nough said :thumbsup:

[LO_LAXkeeper]

A deputy is a player who enters the goal circle when the goalie is out of the goal circle and her team is in possession of the ball, I totally think the deputy should be allowed to go inside the crease while the goalie is in the crease. The rule states that the deputy can only go inside the crease when the goalie is outside the crease.

[SawyerLaxGirl44]

Yea....now that I know the deputy rule... it does kinda suck. Specially for the D havin to run AROUND the crease while in guys they run THROUGH.


But as a goalie, its sorta annoying when some1 is directly in your way like, 2 feet from you...

[LO_LAXkeeper]

"Yea....now that I know the deputy rule... it does kinda suck. Specially for the D havin to run AROUND the crease while in guys they run THROUGH." posted by SawyerLaxGirl44

Right! When I went to a boy's match I was like what? Because in girl's we can't do that and I was like you so totally can not do that. Then my guy-friends explained that you can through in guys.

[lax_08]

there is nuthing that annoys me more than the rules we play! firstly the bubble rule... its ridiculous that u cant check close to the head! secondly the stopping on the whistle rule, i played in a comp once where we played free movement, no fan, minute penalties for major fouls and 30 sec for minor fouls, and it was pretty much liek mens lacrosse, it was the best gae ive ever played! so much better! i think that womens lacrosse should stop being so precious, like the eye goggles, i think thats stupid! and definatey need hard boundaries! make our game more like the mens game, it would be alot faster and then people might enjoy watching it!

[chippie]

problem is to change one rule would mean a change of more rules

1) shooting space: if an umpire doesnt call it and you shoot and the ball hits someone in the head, then you get penalised, to change this then you would have to wear more equipment such as helmets, this would also be the case for the bubble rule as well (although there aint many injuries, it only takes one law suit by an angry parent!)

2) deputy rule is just stupid (i think anyway) if your keeper is out of the crease and the ball gets turned-over and the other team shoots are you really going to stop it? and why would stand in the crease with no equipment when your keeper is standing there as well with full gear?

What i would change is the yellow card rule: you dont lose anything having a playing been sent off for another player to come on, i think having the team play with the player that commited the foul play a player down would be much better!!

Didnt know that some places still play without hard boundaries, i think you need them.

Womens rules have changed so much in the last couple of years, they will just kepp changing and get more like the mens game!!

[LatinBabe]

no freakin goggles. that's all i want.

[LO_LAXkeeper]

Why do y'all dislike the goggles?

[LatinBabe]

because... they itchy, restrict vision, and it is just more fun without them... seeing as atleast down here, having goggles means it's ok to whack you in the face a few times in a game... no fun.

[FOGO 9]

no freakin goggles. SO I CAN TELL WHOS HOT

[ljlax]

i like the idea of a defender being able going in the crease. that would eliminated the deputy rule because u would be allowed in at the same time as the goalie. but i doubt that many people would go in because its dumb and if u are playing good defense with good body position u wont need to. but it would be nice to have the option. if like there is someone rolling the crease or something.

also some checking rules need to be modified. like sometimes a check is like kind of towards the body but not really and like the player does it cleanly and it gets called. i think refs should have more flexibility in deciding what is and what isnt dangerous

the bubble around the head rule is good because it hurts to get checked in the head. so they should leave it cuz i dont want to wear a helmet.

i like the no boundaries because if u miss a shot, a home behind the goal can get it and u will get another chance to score.

goggles are lame but they are not likely to get rid of it considering it just became a rule.

dangerous shot and shooting space is a little weird because sometimes someone will get called for a dangerous shot but the girl in shooting space wont get called. and we need to have that rule because we dont wear pads like guys. but they should modify it in order to make it mroe fair to both the offense and defense.

and i still dont completely get what obstuction is. so if someone can clarify for me that would be awesome.

i guess im ok with most of the rules but sometimes they are annoying but thats usually because we have like super anal refs. if they were a little bit more lenient it would be better.

also the no contact thing irritates me. i mean i dont think it should be full contact but u need to put pressure on an attacker to keep them out of the arc. it would be better if they werent so strict on that rule

[ljlax]

Also, around here, there is lots of checking, not stick to body but a lot stick to stick and on defense it real physical, most of our attackmen (attackwomen?) have bruises at the end of a game. Our refs just let us play I suppose but if they didn't, like they wouldn't let that much checking I would want more.

well, the refs in cali are like reallyy strict like if u touch an attacker they call on the body or whatver. i remmeber last year we played liverpool, ny and the refs just let us play and the other team was wayy more aggressive because they were used to playing like that and the refs let them. i liked it, except my team wasnt used to it and we were pretty intimidated so i guess it makes sense that they killed us. but if we were always allowed to play like that it would be awesome. so i guess im not asking for a rule change but more of a ref change lol

[kerf_19]

I'd can the bubble...who craddles in the bubble anyway! It's lame. I'd also get rid of the dangerous shot cos the goalies' wearin pads to stop the ball whether its at their feet or head...they got a helmet for a reason and its not like the shooters r trying not to score and hit the keeper!! i know i'm tryin to score wen i shoot :P D' needs to be allowed to be more physical but the refs r slowly startin to ref more like NCAA so thats cool. Refs need to stop bein pansies with hard checks, there is such a thing as a hard CONTROLLED check....I see Sarah Forbes (Aussie who was at Maryland 94-97, captain of aus team 05, if noone knows her) do it every bloody week. Absolutely lethal! :)

Umm i cant think of much else...hard boundaries r good cos bad passes are penalised but u still get the ball back if ur closest on a shot so thats all good.

But i reckon play like the South Australians and go: no standing on the whistle and timed penalties like the guys, makes the game crazy fast :)

Thats all i got for now!

[ques]

Think of the plays you could run if there was no standing on a whistle? Talk about speeding up the game. It would also let the defense set up better.

[BigTony]

I hear you girls talking about the dangerous shot rule, and I understand what it is. But how fast do most D1 women's lacrosse players shoot?

[sumSum]

This was mentioned elsewhere but its been estimated that most top D1 players shoot anywhere from 60-80 about. I think it really depends but that seems to be the range.

[kerf_19]

yeh not stopping on the whistle makes it crazy fast, the women in South Australia play like the men pretty much, just adopt woemns rules but set up plays and run attack and defense like the men......they always win nationals too.....