View Full Version : tips for beating aggressive defenders
An AttACk OfLaX
01-16-2005, 09:56 AM
there are some really hard checking defenders in my league u no any moves that would be good to use against them to beat them
thunder_15
01-16-2005, 10:08 AM
is the defence is being aggressive then u have to be aggressive
layingthelumber
01-16-2005, 10:38 AM
If im being really aggresive, the attack will normaly draw me out way too far then just do a dodge and run like mad past me.
busdriver44
01-16-2005, 11:08 AM
I'd say when defenders are getting really aggressive they tend to forget basic things( ie like layingthelumber said guarding someone outside the box). The best thing to do is just run by them. If you can get him outside the box , then if u beat him theres a lot more room to either dish it or score. Just try running one way 80% sprint and then time his check and spin the other way 100% will burn him everytime. Or the easiest thing to do with any defender is just run on diff planes(makes it really hard to get a hard check on u) and to just sprint outside the box to make a pass. Just try to remember not to get frustrated and force a pass that you know isn't going to work, pull it out.
joeyp2003
01-16-2005, 11:11 AM
suck there nuts
i got a great idea how bout you grow up...the kids asking for some help how are you not banned yet? well nonetheless as stated above the best way to beat an aggressive def is become more aggressive. thats the only way
xSURFERx
01-16-2005, 11:24 AM
busdriver44 sayed it perfectly, just time the checks and roll him
WHSlax42
01-16-2005, 05:46 PM
Match their agression and make them play you far out and then..hit the jets...
WestSideLa X eR
01-16-2005, 05:50 PM
Try NOT to match thier aggression....sometimes it'll get you more beat up in the process and you wont get anywhere (closer to the goal).
I would just work the ball around, when a D man is being extremely agressive, he is prone to forgetting the basics and overcommitting.....analyze this and do some fancy footwork and you'll burn him easily
franks2089
01-16-2005, 06:01 PM
Just peg them in the leg really hard once and then they will usually give u a little more space. But you have to make it look like you were really trying to shoot.
mustang_lax
01-16-2005, 06:17 PM
When the defender gets the ball while clearing ride him hard and lay some good checks. Don't just slash him but make sure you give him a good licking. When you have the ball just take it outside and make him play you one on one. When dodging at him try to bait him and when you see him going for a yardsale, bring your stick in and run by him. If you can find some videos of Mikey Powell on e-lacrosse. He does it very well
RaiderLacrosse
01-16-2005, 07:53 PM
When you have the ball, dodge to his left, while at the same time move the head of your stick in between you and the defender while keeping it close to your head. Many overly aggressive defenders will instinctively slash at the head of the stick in hopes of knocking the ball out, however he'll also be slashing at your helmet. Penalty.
ChIcAgO LaX MiD
01-16-2005, 08:45 PM
move the ball around and try to bring them out of the center and then when they are pretty well spread, make a move to get past them
SDPirate
01-16-2005, 08:59 PM
refuse to go to your left for a few checks then when he isnt expecting it switch hands and burn em
brlacrosse50
01-18-2005, 05:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by H-townlaxer
suck there nuts
i got a great idea how bout you grow up...the kids asking for some help how are you not banned yet? well nonetheless as stated above the best way to beat an aggressive def is become more aggressive. thats the only way
i agree you need to grow up, so does the kid who laughed at it
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Persian
01-18-2005, 06:05 PM
Just use your speed, defenseman are generally gunna be slower than you so as others have said you can just fake one way then out run them.
Denis_callahan
01-18-2005, 06:28 PM
a face dodge will work very good, act like your gonna pass/shoot if hes overcommiting hell go for the head of you stick, which is a big no-no, once you see him lunge for the head of your stick pull ur stick across your body and fly right by him, wont work everytime but when it does youll have like 3 steps on him, and it was stated before that u should run on different planes, and different speeds, dont let the defender get into a rythem where he can put alot of checks on you easily, make him work and get him tired
Mavido
01-18-2005, 09:21 PM
When you go off to get some water.. make a few calls.. when you come back... use the secret hand signal.. and have the sniper put one between his eyes... every one is all screaming and stuf.. you can just jog on over and shoot.. always works...
CoachK
01-24-2005, 04:14 AM
If you're drawing the best defender, see how far out you can pull him... If you can create 5v5, without their best defender, someone else might be able to get a clear lane to the goal. I personally drag them as far out as I can, if they play highside, an inside roll is great, even if you have a 20 yard run to the cage, otherwise a face dodge or speed move works great. Tease him, Tease him, Tease him with your stick. If you get too far away, a lot of times they'll stop chasing, so just keep moving around, changing direction, speed, hands.... Have some confidence, that big stick doesn't work real well when you're in close, so be out of reach or in close.
Essentially, everyone is telling you to be cautious with your stick, create as much space as you can around you (the last thing you want is a double if you can't get a pass off), bait the defender when possible, and use his out of position play against him. Good luck
azlax1115
02-22-2005, 06:57 PM
Just peg them in the leg really hard once and then they will usually give u a little more space. But you have to make it look like you were really trying to shoot.
dude i'm a defensemen and i can tell you that im gonna get even more pissed and want to kill if some attackmen hits me in the leg on purpose....i guess that might be just me though................plus ur throwing away a possesion which is probably gonna get u castrated
Tex71
02-22-2005, 07:18 PM
if he is good and you get close hes gonna push you away thats what your supposed to do but just go right outside where he stops and just outside his range with his stick and then just run back and forth with your stick facing him and he will go for it when he does just doge him and drive to the goal
titanslax
02-24-2005, 06:11 PM
change directions a lot, any good defender will move with you and maybe even your stick( i dono maybe?). but anyways, if your left handed, switch hands and make it look like your going to shoot, if he lunges for your stick, bring it across your body and you'll get a quick iso goal. dosent work all the time, but give it a spin every couple times. im not that great with dodges, i usually just rely on my speed, but im working on dodges. the best advice i can give with dodges is, fake once maybe even twice and then turn the jets on and drive as hard and as fast as you can to the goal.
NJSLaxxer
06-02-2005, 07:53 PM
When you have the ball, dodge to his left, while at the same time move the head of your stick in between you and the defender while keeping it close to your head. Many overly aggressive defenders will instinctively slash at the head of the stick in hopes of knocking the ball out, however he'll also be slashing at your helmet. Penalty.
Thats not getting around him though.. thats just a cheap way of keeping possession
fattie64
06-02-2005, 08:38 PM
dude i'm a defensemen and i can tell you that im gonna get even more pissed and want to kill if some attackmen hits me in the leg on purpose....i guess that might be just me though................plus ur throwing away a possesion which is probably gonna get u castrated
nope...pretty much every d man in the entire lax world gets pissed at that. i ended up giving a kid a concussion that took him out for a week because that little *** chucked one at my stomach.
LCNlaxman
06-02-2005, 08:46 PM
If the defense is not communicating, draw your defense out. pull em WAAAAAAAAAY out, all of em. So that way when the middle is clear, run up in there, shoot or dish.
laxersk8erguy8
06-03-2005, 08:36 PM
titanslax, a good defender always checks the stick, but always watches the stomach/torso for movement. As for getting by the guy, try to get him to run out to you, than just throw a quick dodge and get him while his momentum still is going forward. Baiting your stick also works really great. There is one attackman on my team who consciosly drags his butt, and the first time somebody goes for it, he goes right by them and scores.
lax4life6
06-04-2005, 06:54 AM
last game this one d-man was covering me and every time i got the ball he went for my head. I just kinda drew him way out the the sideline and whenever i got the ball i would quick stick it to someone else and then run my defenseman around the field some more to tire him out.
bulldog24
06-04-2005, 09:08 AM
im usually one of those agressive defenders...what u should do is get in their head, but keep ur cool. it gets them way fired up, completely outa position and make stupid penaltys. definently get in their head.
lax4life6
06-04-2005, 09:46 AM
o yeah. I was making fun of this kid because he had a purple stick and he kept trying to throw take out checks whenever i got the ball. It was great. Every game i'll just start talking to my defensemen before the faceoff and get them all mad and stuff. They spend so much time worrying about trying to kill me that they dont stay in position and we get easy goals
keenan
06-04-2005, 09:51 AM
if you have realy good stick skills you could hang your stick behind you and when they go for the big over the back check, protect he stick and go to the net
or pretending like you have no left works pretty good too
lax4life6
06-04-2005, 09:56 AM
That move should work unless he knows what youre doing or if u get double teamed.
johnboy07
06-04-2005, 08:02 PM
what I like to do, since im small, is right as they are about to nail me with an incredible body check, roll, everytime ive tried it ive burned them or they fell down.
FaCe-oFF-MIddiE
06-04-2005, 08:19 PM
most of the time ill just change directions real fast and if hes being agressive then hell get burned. when your being agressive your focused on being agressive not staying with him.
dsticklax17
06-08-2005, 09:09 PM
Overly aggresive defenders tend to lung when they throw a check. wait till they throw it, then dodge
moondog
06-10-2005, 12:25 AM
Think--once a defender throws a check--you have him beat. Tuck your stick, and cut to the other direction.
Oh yeah, and ride him until he becomes suicidal.
chrisbchicken13
06-16-2006, 09:47 AM
tell your team mate to cut inside of the defender, then draw him way the hell out feed to ur cutting teammate for a shot.
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i made a diagram, just because i can, the x is u and taem mate, o is brickhead defender and the < is the cage
MGLAX
06-16-2006, 10:11 AM
yeah that works. i love the diagram. its one of the ones you can actually understand.
BuckWyld
06-16-2006, 10:21 AM
I think the answer depends on the circumstances.
A If you can beat him in the open field
1 take the ball outside get him to over commit then run, pass when the slide comes,
or if there is no slide shoot the ball
B If he is one of the better defenders and you can not beat him
1 with out the ball, take him away from the net to make him ineffective
2 set him up to get penalties, either by baiting him with your stick near your helmet
turning so he hits you from behind
3 bumping, trash-talking etc to get him to retaliate and hope the refs see
just don't get caught
4 flopping, especially if there is a big size difference, if he is going to commit
penalties, might as well make sure the refs will see it.
B3 and B4 I would probably only do if he playing like a jerk, trying to hurt people etc
D3STRO
06-16-2006, 11:02 AM
if they are playing aggressive then use it against ... ball movement and fakes
once they overcommit, take em ... they won't be able to recover
ptlax79
06-16-2006, 12:08 PM
Whenever a defender is playing aggressive against me i throw all the fakes i can then i bring him out far and dodge to get around him.
the next 'one'
06-17-2006, 03:18 AM
try to pull them out farther than they are supposed to be, then pull a roll and sprint to the goal. if anything you will have caused a fast break. defenders are going to be aggresive, and you have to counteract that by beating them on the run. also, it helps to dodge...ALOT! i try to dodge once every 3 or 4 steps until i lose the guy. always be changing direction.
checklax
06-17-2006, 11:50 AM
If you wanna go out for the pass but he's just not getting off of you, like he's so close you can hear him breathing (thats what I consider an annoying defender) take a step forwards towards him, slide your shaft butt end down, and pop him in the stomach to get you some impulse to go the other way, I like to call that poppin' in and out. hahaha.
MACDADDY
06-18-2006, 03:05 AM
i think u either get faster or stronger. thats bacially it. i mean if a defender is really big then u could run fast enough. but if the defender is small and fast, or ur size, you should try raming him or outwit him. i mean its a mental game. lax isnt that hard if u just think its easy. i mean ive only played 3 months and im better than some pplz thats played a year.
MaddxLax
06-20-2006, 10:51 AM
every defender has their weakness, if they are getting too confident and trying to run through u, blow by them w/ a face dodge for something.....just dont let size scare u, if u cant get by them get out of pressure, pass the ball, and back door cut...its not really my thing but u can try being sneaky....or if u are a desent size lay them out when they get the ball and go to the goal
iplaylax22
06-20-2006, 02:55 PM
usually overaggressive defenders tend to play u far out. If thats the case go way out and let him follow you , then burn him.
laxpro
06-21-2006, 12:03 PM
Time the checks, and then just dodge past him and you should be fine.