Stalling quiz

[LaxRef]

NCAA rules

Team A is two men down for 3:00 with 5:00 left in the game and they are leading by 3. They work the ball around the offensive end, touching up in the attack area repeatedly to get a new count, but they make no attempt to create a scoring play.

Q1: Can they be warned for stalling?

Q2: If instead of passing the ball around, they had A1 carry the ball into the box and stand there, with no team B player near him, could they be warned to keep it in?

Q3: Same as Q2, but B1 guards him closely.

[LaxRef]

Aw, come on! No one is going to take a shot at this one?

[lacrossefreak]

i dont think they can be warned for stalling if the guy runs around in the box or they just pass it around in the box.... i think if the guy was just standing there.... in the box he still would not be warned for stalling because well hes in the box... the only place you can be warned for stalling is when you come out of the defensive box to the midline and you stand there and do nothing.... theoretically you have no time limit to get it to the midline but you have to keep the ball moving in that area..... and for Q3 even still the guy is gaurding him shouldnt the defenseman try to get the ball while they are down by 3? i dont think you can be called for stalling in any of these situations

[GIattack]

this happened to my team, were we were up by one with a few minutes left and they had slow D so our attack just ran around be hind the net and the refs never said anything to us. so my awnsers are Q1.no Q2.no Q3. no

[LaxRef]

this happened to my team, were we were up by one with a few minutes left and they had slow D so our attack just ran around be hind the net and the refs never said anything to us. so my awnsers are Q1.no Q2.no Q3. no

Just to clear things up a little, the stalling warning is "Keep it in!" Thus, you were warned for stalling in the game you mention because the stalling rule is automatic in the last 2:00 of the game. If you had taken the ball out of the attack area after the wanring, you would have been called for stalling, which is different (that's the foul that actually turns the ball over).

And, as always, just because some officials in some game did something doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. :chuckle:

(BTW, 1000th post!)

[rilax]

Just to be different (and think I am right as well)

1)warning can be given and probable should be.

2)NCAA now says never can happen in this situation. Would not do it in NFHS as well

3)Can be given hear however before I do it there needs to be something else i.e. player backs out of goal area etc. If A brings it into the goal area and A1 is just there holding the ball getting hit over and over I will not care much

[eme]

I'd like to see a situation where one team was two men down and the other team refused to play them....outside of a blowout game.

[LaxRef]

Just to be different (and think I am right as well)

1)warning can be given and probable should be.

There used to be a lot of confusion on this point because the rules stated you could not be called for DEFENSIVE stalling while man down, but the A.R.s just referred to "stalling" and not "defensive stalling." Thus, I know a lot of officials who were convinced that you couldn't call a team for offensive stalling when they were man down, which, of course, is when teams are most motivated to stall.

However, the 2005 rules take all of the defensive stalling rules out, so there's no more mention of "man down." Thus, it's now clear that you can be called for offensive stalling when man down.

(For those of you who don't know, the defensive stalling rules were completely silly rules about what happened if a team got across the defensive clearing line but elected not to try to clear over midfield; they involved a lot of warnings, but ultimately you couldn't penalize the team for not clearing the ball across midfield).

2)NCAA now says never can happen in this situation. Would not do it in NFHS as well

Correct. Cannot warn in NCAA. Can warn in NFHS.

You cannot, incidentally, ever be called for stalling when inside the attack area.

3)Can be given hear however before I do it there needs to be something else i.e. player backs out of goal area etc. If A brings it into the goal area and A1 is just there holding the ball getting hit over and over I will not care much


You can definitely warn team A for stalling if they are not attempting to create a scoring play while keeping the ball in the attack area and while team B is guarding them. You cannot, however, ever be called for stalling when inside the attack area.

One thing they don't make clear is what we're supposed to yell when the ball is outside the attack area but you're going to tell them to keep it in when they get in there. You don't want to trap the offense, where the middie thinks he can just touch-up and you tell him he has to keep it in while he's on the way out already. I usually just tell them "White is going to have to keep the ball in!"