View Full Version : Head Prices
mr laxplaya33
01-31-2005, 07:53 PM
I've noticed how nice pinched heads are more expensive than open heads. Yet, when u look at them it looks like the same ammount of plastic is used for each one, so y do heads cost more when they are more pinched?
Longest
01-31-2005, 07:55 PM
Engineering costs. Manufacturing costs. Advertising costs. All of those add up to the end price.
Dan
Orange
01-31-2005, 07:59 PM
All of the newer sticks have been increasing in pinch. Therefore newer stuff costs more, while the cheaper, wider heads go down in price as they become older.
Lax101
01-31-2005, 09:23 PM
wider heads are geared towards beginners. Beginner stuff is coherently cheaper than advanced stuff. Also in the 80 or so bucks we pay to get a high end head, we're paying for the technological advances in it, i.e. pinch, offset, weight, etc.
H-townlaxer
01-31-2005, 09:41 PM
because the companys can thats the real reson
Snowman01
01-31-2005, 09:47 PM
Some of you may not agree but alot of what were paying for is supply and demand based. Fads are just as much a part of lacrosse as they are with clothing (IMO of course). I'll use the brine cyber as an example. The price had gone down considerably (35 unstrung on LD) as newer heads have come out. These new products take focus off of the older heads therefore in order for the company to continue to sell the older heads, a decrease in price is a reasonable solution. The cyber's preformance has not changed yet the price has, thus illustrating the supply and demand theory. We cant possibly be paying for stregnth in all cases, just compare the X2 to the razer. IF anything, a majority of the price is tied up in the cost of manufaturing such as the cost of the mold, or machine used to make it. We're certainly not paying for the finest quality plastic. Arguably, professional players can pick up just about any "beginner" stick and still outpreform an average high school player with the most expensive setup. The gaits certainly didnt start off with an ultra pinched overpriced open sidewall head. I still think that the brine shotgun is one of the strongest heads out there. Of course its super wide, onset and not necessarily attractive, but it got the jub done for me when i was just starting out, as it probably did for most people. Longest makes an excellent point and i agree with him completely, yet i still stick with my lacrosse fad theory. Im not saying the products arent good, their just not necessary.
Longest
01-31-2005, 09:59 PM
Your scenario regarding the price of the Cyber does not "prove" supply and demand but it does illustrate it quite nicely. And that's really just a nitpick, good points.
Dan
Snowman01
01-31-2005, 10:05 PM
Your scenario regarding the price of the Cyber does not "prove" supply and demand but it does illustrate it quite nicely. And that's really just a nitpick, good points.
Dan
Good point. Fixed
Good thread, I like how it has turned out. Moved to stick tech, however, once I finish this post.
I have bought two Cybers. First one, $60, brand new. Second, about $45 or $50. Still the same head each time, and I love them. I have two, one my old broken one, hanging up in my room. You ask me which company gives you the most head for your money, it isn't Warrior. The strongest plastic appears to be in Brine's relatively older heads, like the Vapor, Cyber, Edge, Warp, Matrix and such. Very tough heads. Thier newer Edges are weaker, like the Edge-X turned out to be. But still, Brine has my favorite polymer. Debeer also has tough heads, as does STX. My X2 is just about as invincible as they come. However, newer STX heads also seem to be weaker, like the Liquid, Hype, Fuse and Profile turned out. So, I'd stick with Gait heads or older Brine heads for strength reasons, and Brine heads usually are the lightest, but Gait does have the Torque. Yep. Personal experience.