"Cheap shots"

[LSLax6]

AS a d guy i get critisized alot for these. I probabley do throw alot of "cheap shots" cause thats my job, annoy the hell out of attackmen and make it so they cant think about the game. But what do all you guys classify a cheap shot? A smack to the groin? A slash to unguarded wrists? Puposely aiming for unguarded areas? pokes to the ribs and stomach?

Let me know

[xots]

anyplace that is normally guarded on the body that isnt is a free invitation to hit there, i.e. rib pads, etc, as long as its legal

[MrTibs]

Only cheap shot its slappin the nuts. Not cool. Anything else is fair game unless its somethin really vicious like slashin the throat.

[RockStar]

AS a d guy i get critisized alot for these. I probabley do throw alot of "cheap shots" cause thats my job, annoy the hell out of attackmen and make it so they cant think about the game. But what do all you guys classify a cheap shot? A smack to the groin? A slash to unguarded wrists? Puposely aiming for unguarded areas? pokes to the ribs and stomach?

Let me know

As far as I'm concerned, the only cheap shots are:

-From behind,
-above the shoulders,
-below the belt.

If the attacker thinks he's tough enough to skimp on protective equipment, and then b!tches about being hit in the arms or ribs or somewhere like that.....well, tell him to shut the frock up, take his purse, and go home.

Goes for defensemen too. I know if I was pressuring you as you're trying to clear, I'd be hitting you harder than you were hitting me when was on attack....learn to either deal with the pain, put on the pads, or just go shut up and go home! (As an attacker, I'd spare no effort either.....I'm far from the last line of defense so if I overcommit and lose you, it's really not a big deal. If you're carrying the ball, I'm coming in hard and looking to run you over!)

[faceitoff]

Nuts and throat.

[LaxAttack2]

Nuts and throat.
^^ Amen. I'd say these are teh big cheap shots, id say things like aiming for unprotected parts is just part of teh sport, maybe a little malicious, but it works

[SDS416]

yeah, I gotta say if you hit me in the nuts or the throat you better damn well kill me because when I get up, I will run your butt over like a mack truck. Actually I got nailed over the top of the head once, d-man just clubbed me like a baby seal...that sucked. But he found out how much of a ***** payback is...before I could even get an opportunity to steam roll him, my stepbrother had an altercation with him...grabbed him by the cage on his helmet and picked him clear off the ground and basically threw him into the bleachers by the sideline. I've never laughed so hard in my life.

[mustang_lax]

cheap shots are for pansies. A good, focused attackman won't be rattled by cheap shots, unless they are viscious. If you're all that good, why stoop so low to give cheap shots. When the ball is on the other side of the field you don't see attackman swinging at a dman's legs or wrists. Yes lacrosse is a contanct sport, but cheap shots aren't part of the game. A middie on my team went to go scoop a groundball and a dman approached him. Instead of stick checking his stick so that he'd miss the grounball, the dman swung at his back around the kidney region. The dman did get kicked out of the game but c'mon now. That behavior isnt necessary. Play the sport the way it was meant to be played.

[LaxAttack2]

yeah iv got a story kind of like that, this middie from teh other team was coming to scoop a ground ball, but then one of our middies ran over and axed the guy in the back of the neck, he didnt even get thrown out, but it was vicious

[Mavido]

as an attackmen i throw cheap shots all the time, in the first round of the playoffs last year i slashed the other teams goalie in the thumb on purpouse*later found out if was fractured*.. i did it with the intent of taking him out of the game.. it worked, i felt bad about it later, but if thats what it takes to win the game ill do it, when i have a d man that comes up on my back and im on the inside ill stomp on his instep and roll out of him.. or cut off of a d mans instep, makes him fall down and give me all kinda space, its a game but the object is to win, and ill use any means possable.

[exile lacrosse]

not all exposed areas are cheep shots, and some of the time a hit in the groin can just be a misplaced check, especially at younger levels. Checks to some (not all) exposed areas are on purpose-to inflict pain. attackmen who know that they will get hit somewhere that hurts will think about that pain next time they go up against a dman, and its one more thing for them to think about, a little bit more of a chance they'll make a mistake. Im not saying go for the kidneys and ribs all the time, but places like the exposed wrist and the arm between the upper arm pad and shoulder pads, are all fair game. and if you skimp out on pads, theres nothing that bothers me more than some one who wears little padding then complains about being hit where theres no pads. on feild, we are not friends. my job is to stop you, inflicting pain is a means of doing that.

[mustang_lax]

I'm not saying that playing rough is bad, I'm saying that playing with the intent to injure by any means necessary isn't right. That's not how lacrosse is meant to be played. I agree with you about attackman who wear barely any padding then complain about it, but because they have barely any padding isn't the more reason to tomahawk them rapidfire. I don't know about you guys but when the ball is on the other side of the field I have a conversation with my dman. Just because you're trying to beat them doesn't mean you haveto like hold a grudge against them. IDK that's just me I like to show good sportmanship and respect to the opposing players

[faceitoff]

I get slashed on the ankles all the time at faceoffs.

[LaxAttack2]

^^ yeah thats how i feel, i mean getting hits part of the game, but hitting with the intent to injure really isnt rite, i too hav conversations with the dman when the balls on the other side of the field, but yeah i just think ppl who are goin just to hurt the person arent playin the game the way it was intended to be played but what can you do, as the sport grows in popularity many people are joining the game purely to hurt someone in many ways this has made the game a much more physical and ferocious game rather than the days of stick skills and dodges or like fundamental d

[stegmakk]

The junk and the throat area are cheap shot areas...
When someone tries to dodge I like to give a solid poke with follow through right to the chest...Im not playing to injur the guy...just to have him second guess...

attackmen can be just as cheap...doing the foot stomp pisses me off and youll get a crosscheck if you try that on me...

[Mavido]

so you guys going to keep saying how you have morals, and ethics, just keep piling the guilt on me b/c i cheat? i said i felt bad about it! and i appologized to the guy after the game....

[xSURFERx]

if u aim for the nuts or throht...if its an accident ok, but dont aim. and i would encourage hitting on wrists and ribs where theres no padding, its a rough sport...make it hard for them

[jedimasterPIMP]

goin for the nuts is pretty dirty but what i consider cheap is a nice slap check across the stomach, i hate it when that happens.

[zak]

As D, ive had my fair share of wrap checks and agressive attack on clears. As its been said, its part of the game, you just got to suck it up. Then again, I know ive accidently hit ankles, throats, and testicles. The worst part though is when it was clearly an accident, I get down and help the guy, appologize, and they still flip out on you. I mean, it happens, get over it, and unless your the ref I dont want to hear "slash/un-sportsmanlike conduct/cross-check/whatever." Or the next time it wont be an accident...

[RockStar]

This is filler

[LaxAttack2]

wait...are you saying that attackmen are pussies? or am i just confused, which i think i am, but xSurferx i wasnt tryin to like yell at you for hurtin the guy i was just sayin that i dont do it, but like i mean i know you didnt truly want to hurt him, i was just sayin that i dont really play with the intent on hurting the other player that much

[tekz]

my coach told me that if they don't have a cup, go for the nuts.

[Jjaylax09]

Nuts and throat.

'nuf said...
if you dont want to get hit, be a scorekeeper... and i tell the attackmen on my team that they are not allowed to cry because all they do is hit me in practice and i never say a word

[LAXatt]

as an attackmen i throw cheap shots all the time, in the first round of the playoffs last year i slashed the other teams goalie in the thumb on purpouse*later found out if was fractured*.. i did it with the intent of taking him out of the game.. it worked, i felt bad about it later, but if thats what it takes to win the game ill do it, when i have a d man that comes up on my back and im on the inside ill stomp on his instep and roll out of him.. or cut off of a d mans instep, makes him fall down and give me all kinda space, its a game but the object is to win, and ill use any means possable.

1)the object of the game is not winning its to play your best and if your team plays your best and your outmatched then hey just keep trying and get better and if your team wins then good for you

2)even though you felt bad about it you still did it with the intent of taking him out of the game

3) if youve got that "if thats what it takes to win attitude" and you keep throwing those cheapshots some d-man is just gonna level you

[Despise Purity]

1)the object of the game is not winning its to play your best and if your team plays your best and your outmatched then hey just keep trying and get better and if your team wins then good for you

2)even though you felt bad about it you still did it with the intent of taking him out of the game

3) if youve got that "if thats what it takes to win attitude" and you keep throwing those cheapshots some d-man is just gonna level you


I agree, and if you have to cheat to win then what is that saying about you or the team? Along with the d-men coming after you to some degree.

You can usually tell when it is a cheap shot, but as others have replied I would have to agree on anything in the lower region or throat, as well as for me being pushed from behind.

[stxbionic42]

Only cheap shot its slappin the nuts. Not cool. Anything else is fair game unless its somethin really vicious like slashin the throat.

I hate nut shots. Theres always a guy to go for it to.

[xSURFERx]

RJRoffense,....i totally disagree with u. doing whatever it takes to win!! why dont u just practise more, thats what it takes to win...not injureing ppl on purpose. thats just low. if i was the d man and u did that stuff i would lay u out...with or with out the ball. has ne1 done that to u? if u really do that stuff id b surprised if they didnt.

[CornerPicker22]

Nuts (Especially man down when you're string middie), Throat (more specifically, Area Below the Ear: huge vein right there that'll knock you dizzy), and DIAPHRAM. Had this little hack poking at my diaphram the entire game, knocked the wind out of me every time.... grr I hate diaphram poke checks.

[faceitoff]

^^^ cups are for pussies, the only way to play is with your nuts swinging.. ^^^

That'd be funny if I nailed you in the nuts.

[mdawg12087]

im a big fan of the hip pointer, may be considered below the waist, but its barely under the rib pads. If u "go" for a check on the bottom hand or arm guard and "miss" , u can follow through onto the hip pointer. Good place, causes alot of pain, never ever protected, and the pain can last the whole game. and the little spot between arm guard and cuff of the glove. not cheap, just open shots.

[camthraxFHK]

Schnuts, from behind or hacking someone so hard it injures them. Other than that its not illegal unless the ref calls it or your coach yells at you.

[Lax.53]

I love it though when i get the ball on d or something and i see all 3 attack try to lay me out and they all slash like madness.

[GBaschski]

The way I see it, as long as you're not hitting them in the back, the head, or the neck, they'll be fine (as long as they're wearing a cup).
I remember one time when I was going down for a ground ball on Middie, and a defenseman came up on a full sprint and checked me off my feet in the back. I was layed out for five minutes, and just as I was about to get up and give the guy a piece of my mind, my coach switched out our lines. :hot:

[geggieman]

nuts, and back. texas lax is brutal

[blckout20]

My job as a defender is to throw checks that will cause the ball carrier to drop the ball. Now, with this in mind, I throw checks with the intention to cause pain that will either slow the attackman down or force him to drop the ball. Now my own morals prevent me from throwing checks to the groin or throat, especially since I belive throwing a check with your stick to the throat can lead to legal consequences. But I'm sure I've hit someone in the groin either going for a ground ball or in some other situation, now it not being intentional I have no sympathy for the person. At the same time though, when I am covoring the ball carrier I will intentionaly throw poke checks to the ribs and stomach and throw slap checks off of the wrists and hip bones. While this may seem dirty, I consider it tactical and in my oppinion well within the boundaries of the sport and while I can be called for it being illegal I seldom am and it gets the job done. So, unless you are trying to do serious damage to the kid, I don't think throwing checks to certain areas is dirty, but it is a fine line between being a tough defender and being an idiot out on the field to do damage.

[Caleb]

Nuts and throat.

And in the back about at the shoulder blades. You know the kind that makes you get whiplash in your neck.

[faceitoff]

And in the back about at the shoulder blades. You know the kind that makes you get whiplash in your neck.

Yeahh. And the ribs. Defenders can get the ball without jabbing you in the ribs, you know.

Post #2300.

[mcqdman]

My job as a defender is to throw checks that will cause the ball carrier to drop the ball. Now, with this in mind, I throw checks with the intention to cause pain that will either slow the attackman down or force him to drop the ball. Now my own morals prevent me from throwing checks to the groin or throat, especially since I belive throwing a check with your stick to the throat can lead to legal consequences. But I'm sure I've hit someone in the groin either going for a ground ball or in some other situation, now it not being intentional I have no sympathy for the person. At the same time though, when I am covoring the ball carrier I will intentionaly throw poke checks to the ribs and stomach and throw slap checks off of the wrists and hip bones. While this may seem dirty, I consider it tactical and in my oppinion well within the boundaries of the sport and while I can be called for it being illegal I seldom am and it gets the job done. So, unless you are trying to do serious damage to the kid, I don't think throwing checks to certain areas is dirty, but it is a fine line between being a tough defender and being an idiot out on the field to do damage.
i agree. i throw pokes at the attackmans ribs and stomach all the time. If you do it enough and hit hard enough, they will be afraid of you. After i gut kids they get the ball and just pass as quick as they can. you have to do whatever you can to win. But then one thing i wont do is hit the nuts or throat.

[monsterone]

asa d-pole, i've never trowna shot at the nuts or throat. a-men wil always get you back.

i've gotten more cheap shots/ cheating when i beat on on gu's gloves/ pushed out w/ my gloves.

i lay off until i get one of those, them i'll line you up on a coma slide.

[thunder_15]

all i gotta say if ur the one taking the crap from the d guy dont let it keep happening do something about. the reason i say this is that i sometimes get some younger guys in my team come up to me and tell me if someones being a **** head so instead of whining do something about. but do something that will mean they wont do it again.

[RockStar]

all i gotta say if ur the one taking the crap from the d guy dont let it keep happening do something about. the reason i say this is that i sometimes get some younger guys in my team come up to me and tell me if someones being a **** head so instead of whining do something about. but do something that will mean they wont do it again.

Amen, Brother.

If you're being chopped by a D-man, just wait until he moves to recover a loose ball.....then pay him back ten fold!

[Upintheclouds]

i consider a cheap shot as an illegal hit that the guy isnt expecting

[mx255]

A cheap shot is pretty much something that is a dirtbag move that doesnt do anything but cause excess pain. Anything to the groin is cheap. Throat and ribs can be too. Cross checks etc

[JedimasterKyle]

Anything below the belt or above the shoulders. As an attackman, I don't see what is wrong with rib pokes. If you suck enough to get hit there, than so be it. When you are to the side of the D man, he hits you in the arm. The only way you should get hit there is if you are facing him, which you shouldn't be. I still wear rib pads but because of D men who hit from behind when you beat them.

On another note, I have pads that make me a tank. The only way for a D man to hurt me is to level me. I have wrist protectors so they can't get checked and my arm pads protect from my wrist pads to my bicep pads. My rib pads fit right below my shoulder pads so no area of my body is unprotected. Plus, I am just as mobile because my pads are all flexible.

[Jpettit25]

I've played both D and attack in the past few years. The basic rules I follow pertain to not being an *** on the field. As a D man, I'd poke a lot to keep the offensemen second guessing, and level them when necessary, but I'd never actually search for exposed skin then beat it as hard as possible. Sure, attackmen get vicious when riding you, but it's never with the intent to hurt, they just want the ball. Same goes for when I was attack. I'd never swing at someone just to hit them, it was always in an attempt to go for the ball. If a D-man stood there and just kept wailing on my exposed wrist, I would consider that a cheap shot. There's no need, and wailing on my wrist will not help you get the ball.

[Tex71]

i think nuts above the sholders and lower back because that hurts is just done purposly so you cant run as well as you could because they just smashed the place where your hamstrings start so running hurts