View Full Version : this is my idea for a bucket, what u think?
Paul_Gait_RULZ
10-30-2003, 02:41 PM
I will have it like the gait helmet, but...
... the nike quest hockey helmet is the base (used by mario lemieux in hockey)
it's an air pump lightweight hockey helmet, with a cascade like shape to it too...
check it out...
then we'll add a brim for sure wether box or field cuz they're cool and gotta respect the field boys!!!!
then a titanium gace for a c-pro or cpx
or a stryke z-pro ti cage>>>????
or an stx pro mask, martyo'neil/maxlax cage is all the names for that cage, basically the NLL cage...
and last but not least a four strap system complete with a plastic cocloured chin protector and visor thing like all lacrosse helmets!!!
what do you think, do you think nike would try this prodecut, it's about time nike joins lacrosse with equipment, watch they'll buy out brine or stx or somehthing one day!!!!
reply what you think of my idea though!
stegmakk
10-30-2003, 03:24 PM
The day Nike enters the lax equibment biz...I will cry...You think warrior/STX/Brine would last...hells no...
I wouldn't give nike any ideas...
Paul_Gait_RULZ
10-30-2003, 03:27 PM
yeah but imagine the helmet wasn't nike though, would it not look sweet, better than the gait, but now that i look at the brine, it's sorta what i imagine minus their cage idea
Aussie_kid
10-30-2003, 04:50 PM
Nike would take over the lax world as well
SullyLax
10-30-2003, 04:57 PM
the gaits are the guliest helmets. period.
sumSum
10-30-2003, 05:51 PM
If Nike were to enter the lacrosse world I would flat our deny to buy any of their products, unless they were genuinely dedicated to providing the sport with quality products and they really cared about the sport.
laxattack
10-30-2003, 06:16 PM
rabble rabble, amen. nike would deffinatly monopolize the lacrosse industry just as it does with everything else, making it more flashy and showy than it needs to be.
SullyLax
10-30-2003, 06:55 PM
yeah, thats why we have warrior!
dont try to turn a hockey helmet into a lax helmet, we need our own stuff, like the cascades, and triads, and strykes
laxattack
10-30-2003, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by SullyLax
yeah, thats why we have warrior!
:laugh :clap took the words right outta my mouth lol
Paul_Gait_RULZ
10-31-2003, 09:37 AM
yeah ok, but the stryke's weigh a tonne, at leats the infinity and z's do, z-pro ain't that light either, and the cascade are ok, but you don't find them bulky or constricting????
gait helmets are sooo ***, ****ty hockey helmet=****ty lax helmet, what was paul smoking on that one???
but hey, i guess i just wanted a light helmet with some air features ....
is warrior owned by nike?
that wasn't a true question, of course. i only buy nike xc running spikes. otherwise, it's mizuno's, puma's, or adidas. i currently love mizuno best. i think if nike were to join lacrosse, they'd take a few years to catch on with the better players, but the younger kids would just start off with a nike equipment package and head on out.
nike all ready has started their conquest, whether they know it or not. they sponsor lacrosse camps and stuff. i won't go to a nike camp.
Longest
10-31-2003, 11:35 PM
Nike is a mover and a shaker in the sports world because they're the gorilla. Golf has only gained in popularity with Tiger Woods' involvement. If Nike did move into lacrosse, there only real bet is to link up some sponsorship with someone that is easily the most recognizable player. Who is such a player? It's hard to say. With most sports it's easy because it's whoever the TV is following heavily, LeBron in NBA now, Tiger in golf, etc.
As for shoes themselves, Mizunos, for me, have always been teh most comfortable shoes hands down. New Balance are great for comfort but there is something about Mizunos that is hard to top, whether they're cleats, turf shoes, or running shoes.
Dan
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-06-2003, 12:36 PM
dude, warrior is the nike in lax, they expose some ***** called powell (casey not ryan, ryan cool) who's afraid of the NLL and not good enough to actually make the BANDITS and they market crappy stuff like hell!!!! Look how many kids have warrior this and warrior ythat due to powell and the MLL, basically the helmet wouldn't even be called NIKE, it be called by my name or by STX or a cool lax company other than brine and warrior for obvious reasons. Why not the XLAX helmet...LOL...
stegmakk
11-06-2003, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Paul_Gait_RULZ
Look how many kids have warrior this and warrior ythat due to powell and the MLL, basically the helmet wouldn't even be called NIKE, it be called by my name or by STX or a cool lax company other than brine and warrior for obvious reasons. Why not the XLAX helmet...LOL...
Warrior isn't doing anything heinous...
Just marketing like any other company...Didn't STX market the Gaits back in the old days before GaBeer? Just lax was not that big in general back then compared to now...plus there was no internet to bash and praise certain companies...
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-06-2003, 02:47 PM
yeah ok, whatever...
... but dude, warrior is the nike of lax,
quest hockey = warrior supertars and s-freax and all the pds with flashy ****....
what's next the one piece lax stick
or the shafts with air in it?
Stx marketed with the gaits a nd marechek of course, but they didn't name the mesh pocket the gait pocket???
a mesh is a mesh, so why call it a powell power u shooting pocket....
or, I can't believe they would do that, especially for a guy rumoured not to be a very good stringer and actually gets people to do it for him....
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-06-2003, 02:50 PM
basically everyone here is overlooking the fact that i said i'd use the nike bucket as a shell, not call it a nike helmet....
.... but really don't be surprised when nike comes to LAX, they did it in hockey and I was pissed that BAUER became NIKE, but now nike does have some nice hockey ****. I just hope if they do come they make good stuff, and not buy out brine and call it nike.... I hope they build their own **** and it's decent cuz you know everyody will use it just cuz it's nike man, all them kids.... But i'll still be with whatever Paul Gait designs cuz it's always sweet (except for the gait helmet, good concept, wrong hockey helmet)
SullyLax
11-06-2003, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by Paul_Gait_RULZ
or the shafts with air in it?
last time i checked, all shafts had air in them.:bye
Longest
11-06-2003, 04:26 PM
You lost me. I can't tell if your point is that Powell=***** or that Warrior=Team Hatorade. Maybe neither. It's my knowledge Casey is playing NLL, is that incorrect? What "crappy stuff" is being marketed? Warrior sells the heck out of the products they produce. Whereas some things from the other companies just sit there doing nothing (Prophecy didn't exactly blow up, nor did the Liquid). XLAX is good tho, I'd wear a helmet called that, if only cuz no one else probably would :-)
Dan
bigOHlax
11-06-2003, 09:57 PM
the part warrior calling a mesh stringing a powell pocket that is just strait up stupid
but stx does call their shooting strings the "gait hockey laces"\
and that is pretty lame too
stegmakk
11-06-2003, 10:58 PM
actually i think one year they marketed the 2 versions of the stx turbo...one as a gait strung turbo and they offered a regular strung turbo...
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-10-2003, 01:11 PM
really, I never thought stx was that stupid too...
the turbo was a little before my lax time so....
But, the point is mesh should be called after a modern player, because countless people have strung like that...
Do you really think that no one before vano;banion the e-lax guy never strung sticks like that before him???
No, he just put it on a website and copyrighted some of them, but i bet you some other people had similar designs....
The point is that it's dumb to call pockets after certain players unless it's totally original and totally unseen and unused before like the shook shakedown for example....
I guess, the more i see the triad bucket, the more it looks like my idea minus the nike hockey helmet as a shell, but they seem to have made a thinner smaller profile helmet.....
boxingit
11-14-2003, 05:44 PM
hey paul gait rulz why don't you like the box gait helmet man. There one of lighter helmets out there right now and they have almost perfect vision. An there aint nothin wrong with itech helmets in the first place.
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-17-2003, 08:25 AM
Dude, that helmet *****, what's with the colour above the cage if there's no brim, it looks dumb, and if you're gonna use a hockey helmet without a visor, just get a pro cage like my helmet and a better hockey helmet!!!!
I think they look stupid without a brim on it!!!!
and the gait cage weighs a ton compared to the pro cage!!!!
boxingit
11-17-2003, 04:57 PM
you could always just put any visor you wante don it by screwing a new one onto it or just by the field version there the same thing but the field one has a viser
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-17-2003, 05:02 PM
that's what i am saying the field version is a good idea minus the itech helmet.... the box is just dumb.... colour above the cage for no reason>>>???
constricting chin piece for no reason???
Lax4Ever
11-17-2003, 05:44 PM
I like the Gait helmit and I think they look good when there is only one colour. I haven't seen any with two colours but I think they would look fine. They look ok on the site.
As for nike, they will be in lacrosse as soon as it looks like the popularity is going to take off. They have already started and are waiting for the perfict time. You will know when they make thier move because they will buy the biggest company they can afford, take all of there ideas and research then they will will market them as that companies and make better more expensive equipment and market it as nike. They will then have the mid price market and the top end market. They have to buy a company or they will be years behind in research and they can't fase the the company out because it costs too much so they split the market.
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-17-2003, 06:13 PM
exactly, someone who sees it my way, one colour i'd wear the gait, without the top colour even, but the box makes no sense, i'd probably wear the field...
but change the cage to the one i have now...
Lax4Ever
11-17-2003, 06:19 PM
The Box one would look better if there were more places where you could see the second colour. The field has the mask colour around some vents on the top. That would make the boxes second colour a lot better.
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-17-2003, 06:23 PM
yeah, or like the tqwo colour hockey helmets... my buddy has got a silver visor and chin on black field one and the silver decals around the vent holes are sweet lokking
boxingit
11-18-2003, 03:28 PM
yeah now i see what your saying but i would be just as content wearing a box one as a feild on but hey thats your opinion so im fine with it
joeyp2003
01-18-2004, 07:55 PM
can u imagine the nike lacrosse commericals god...theyd have people playing lax in the house and jumping over couches or somthing...i agree with whoever said b4 we dont need flashy nike in lax we have warrior
CDLax2
01-18-2004, 08:55 PM
tru dat... nike needs to leave lacrosse alone..... they dont know anything about lacrosse...
Utility_man
02-11-2004, 10:33 PM
I agree partially about lacrosse not needing nike, although the game is fine without it, the publicity that company can bring to a sport is amazing.
I know people are thinking "we dont need publicity" but hear me out on this one.
If nike got into lacrosse and bought a company they would not totally sieze opperations, they would start a smaller company using some of the technology of the company they purcased and develop some of their own, just like they did in hockey, of course it will take a while for them to come into their own as a manufacturer of lacrosse gear but they'll figure it out, and the result will be great
Also nike will bring more interest and sponsors to the game which will bring more money to players meaning guys in the NLL wouldnt have to be teachers and firefighters, they could spend their time training for lacrosse which would in turn make the game better
so i think nike wouldn't be all bad for lacrosse, in the long run i think it would be great
brlacrosse50
03-07-2004, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by laxattack
:laugh :clap took the words right outta my mouth lol
lol same here.. as soon as i read that i was like... Warrior lol
WestSideLa X eR
03-11-2004, 10:19 PM
actually, nike would know alot about lacrosse....the day they move into the lacrosse biz, is the day they'll hire a bunch of retired pros, small time players, researchers, etc.
NIke would actually churn out some decent equip.....if they deem the lacrosse biz to be a potential, they have the money to see it through
I hate how nike turns sports into glamour, etc.
ive been seeing more brine ads than warrior ones now.....
the triad and concept ad is annoying
Paul_Gait_RULZ
03-12-2004, 01:30 AM
I hate brine period.... They should really hit the drawing board with a decent stick to keep up with gait, stx, and warrior..... Brine just seems to copy equip ideas,and still milk off the edge, sooooo 1997...... Although the same could be said about mohawk, their heads are designed for box lax and have a very strong build with the intention that it is known they will be baked to pinch, hene the thickness and etc..... but they are great really!!!!
a_nik_02
03-12-2004, 08:36 AM
I would never buy any Nike products if they tried to sell lax products.......I would never think about buying their stuff. But nice idea for a helmet though
wingslax5
06-24-2004, 12:22 AM
I just bought a nike quest helmet and was wondering what cage you suggest for it.
SharpShooter3
06-24-2004, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Paul_Gait_RULZ
yeah ok, whatever...
... but dude, warrior is the nike of lax,
quest hockey = warrior supertars and s-freax and all the pds with flashy ****....
what's next the one piece lax stick
or the shafts with air in it?
Stx marketed with the gaits a nd marechek of course, but they didn't name the mesh pocket the gait pocket???
a mesh is a mesh, so why call it a powell power u shooting pocket....
or, I can't believe they would do that, especially for a guy rumoured not to be a very good stringer and actually gets people to do it for him....
Wait a sec, you keep saying that Warrior is a lax version of Nike. First of all there is no lax version of Nike and there never will be, cause Nike is involved in many other sports therefore it isn't a "hockey company" or a basketball company."
The other thing is, Warrior is one of the few companies that is totally devoted to lax (the only other company is DeBeer), cause Brine makes soccer gear and STX makes Field hockey gear.
Lastly, maybe it is just that I haven't been following lax gear since I started but it seems like Warrior has gotten flashier since they were bought out by Nike, so maybe Warrior still is a good lax company at heart (that doesn't mean I love Warrior). I also think that is why New Balance/Warrior is doing all this crap with the "Players Club" cause New Balance didn't jump on the celebrity bandwagon in the shoe industry so they are trying to do it in the lax industry where they are a dominant power. That might explain the "Powel Pocket"
SharpShooter3
06-24-2004, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by Utility_man
I agree partially about lacrosse not needing nike, although the game is fine without it, the publicity that company can bring to a sport is amazing.
I know people are thinking "we dont need publicity" but hear me out on this one.
If nike got into lacrosse and bought a company they would not totally sieze opperations, they would start a smaller company using some of the technology of the company they purcased and develop some of their own, just like they did in hockey, of course it will take a while for them to come into their own as a manufacturer of lacrosse gear but they'll figure it out, and the result will be great
Also nike will bring more interest and sponsors to the game which will bring more money to players meaning guys in the NLL wouldnt have to be teachers and firefighters, they could spend their time training for lacrosse which would in turn make the game better
so i think nike wouldn't be all bad for lacrosse, in the long run i think it would be great
First of all what makes you think that Nike will come into the lax industry? I don't think that there is enough profit in the lax industry right now for them to devote even 10% of their sweat shops to the production of lax gear.
If they did come to the industry they would probably come and buy out STX or Brine, most likely STX cause they are already a well devoloped, wealthy company and start banging out flashy low quality equipment. Soon they will be sponsoring the MLL and the NLL, they will be advertising more than Warrior ever could, with the lax wonders of the day.
And while Nike probably won't persuade guys like you and me to buy their gear, little kids will cause they know the name NIKE. Then Nike will set up something close to a monopoly on the industry and we would all be forced to buy their gear.
not enough profit to donate even 1%. i like nike back when it was just bill bauerman and steve prefontaine. now they suck. and i think warrior and brine could easily survive a big company invasion. brine owns the dominant goal making company, in the crease, and new balance owns warrior. so, brine will always be making goals, and warrior has tons of money. brine also makes killer gear, and nike will not be loved by 95% of lacrosse players, so our companies will survive.
longpole3661
06-24-2004, 04:18 PM
u guys r totaly over reacting when ike came into golf none of the companys went out of buisness caus they were all establishedno lax companies r gonna go out of buisness and if they do who cares.
Like Utility Man said Nike will help the sport more then they will hurt it. They would bring it moe repesctability and help to increase the level of competition and make the sport grow
lacrosse is a very small part of the sports world. nike could pretty much buy half the companies in a year. golf is an established sport, and nike couldn't take out those companies, or buy them so easily. frankly, i don't want such a terrible company that makes such lame stuff in my sport. stay out nike, i'm warning you. don't taint this beautiful game with your sweat shops and overpriced equipment. stay away.
senor_k
06-28-2004, 10:49 PM
I think that unless Nike makes something very good or revolutionary, they will not dominate the lax market. Think about it: All the companies right now have either been in it for a very long time, or did something uniue to lax. STX: open sidewall; Brine: offset; Warrior: advertising; Harrow: those things they make. Maybe that thing they will bring to lax is brand-name recognition like you guys said earlier. Basically, if they make good stuff without gouging prices mre than they already are, then I'm all for it. (keyword there: IF)
attack2themax16
05-20-2005, 10:27 PM
u put me 2 sleep. stop typing soooooooo freekin much!
I honestly hate Nike and hope they don't corrupt Lacrosse. I used to work for The Sports Authority and I hated showing their crappy equipment. But kids would wine about it and beg thier mommy and daddy to buy it for them because it had the swoosh. The only thing I can say good about them is their shoes. They make pretty good shoes, although grossly overpriced they are good. It kills me when I watch a baseball game and see the swoosh and a glove or on cather's gear! The sad part is I think it would be good for the sport and because they have so much money they would provide so much more exposure than Warrior or Brine ever would be able to. The only thing is if they are spending a lot of money promoting the sport they definately want to make the money back in selling crappy equipment. So basically, it will be the same situation as baseball, college and pros will be forced to use them and because they are using them kids will beg their parents to buy them.
bloodilax977
08-01-2005, 11:22 AM
the gaits are the guliest helmets. period.
i'm going to guess you meant ugliest right?
RockStar
08-01-2005, 01:58 PM
Way to bring back a half-dead thread, guys.
Died in June 2004, resuscitated in May 2005 with a meaningless post. Following that, it was left for dead, until a newb hit it earlier today!
Mods:
May need to code an automatic lock onto threads when there's more than a month or so of inactivity.
My bad, I just wanted to comment on it. Didn't know if anyone wanted to do the same.
hjr432
08-01-2005, 02:16 PM
at least he had a meaningful post, rather than just "wow gait helmets rule man"
radman
08-02-2005, 12:53 AM
I think they should design helmets where its easy to change the cage, interchanegability.
For example, if you prefer cpx shell with cpro cage-like Gary Gait did with his CPX.
As long as the cage is legal, cpro, cpx, or cpro-ti..etc, why not have interchangeable facemask like football helmets. Let the player decide how he wants protect himself.