Man Down Defenses

[Sirfur4346]

I am need some different man-down defenses. If some one could help me out it would be great.

[GBaschski]

In the winter season, my coach made the d-men pack in towards the crease to stop any close up shots, and the middies would zone out around the area, a bit closer to the goal than usual. It wasn't so effective in getting the ball back, but it was effective in stopping the team from scoring, and burning time for our man down to get back in the game.
Hope I helped.

[TheKOB]

Here's two classic man down techniques. Army Coach Emmer did a presentation on 'em at the coach's convention, and the overhead computer animation does a much better job of explaining it than lacrosse players without practice jerseys on (even if they were from the MLL)

http://www.uslaxcamps.com/Strategy/mdd.asp?sec=strategy

[WHEELAX2]

try this one.. set up like the five on a die.
by this i mean the #5 on a pair of dice
. .
.
. .
G

The middle man has to be the most athletic.
The perimeter defenders have to pinch in when the ball is away from them, while the guy in the middle fills in for the defenseman covering the ball.

[stegmakk]

WHEELAX2 is the most basic man-down D that everyone should learn...
there are variations as to how the movement happens in this set up...
Ill see if I have any diagrams when I get home to post

[joeyp2003]

box and 1? does that count box and 1 with the middie stringing, also switch to a diamond with the middie picking up the sneak man...those are some i can think of

[RockStar]

try this one.. set up like the five on a die.
by this i mean the #5 on a pair of dice
. .
.
. .
G

The middle man has to be the most athletic.
The perimeter defenders have to pinch in when the ball is away from them, while the guy in the middle fills in for the defenseman covering the ball.

Makes sense, that's exactly what some teams do in box when a goalie is pulled for an extra attacker (similar 6-on-5 situation). It clogs the lanes against outside shots, and forces any offensive players driving to the cage to go through at least one defender.

Only question for me - in 5-on-6 d in field, any special strategy as to where to put the long sticks? The 2 Crease spots, the guy in the middle, and one of the high corners? or on the four corners?

Also, anything special on the breakout when/if you get the ball back?

[WHEELAX2]

It depends on how athletic your d-poles are. the more active they are the better they will be on the wings.
Man down Defense requires disciplined play,, you don't want your defenders extending themselves too much, or a good passing team will rip them apart.
In my experience, the most athletic/best defensive midfielder usually plays the crease because they have to scramble all over inside the "die" as a string man... It's better to have your long poles on the perimeter to get their sticks into passing and shooting lanes.

[RockStar]

.....In my experience, the most athletic/best defensive midfielder usually plays the crease because they have to scramble all over inside the "die" as a string man... It's better to have your long poles on the perimeter to get their sticks into passing and shooting lanes.

Glad to see I was right on that. After I posted, I thought it over and really didn't see a point to burying a longstick in the middle of the five-die.

I guess hiding the athletic middie in the middle kind of works for break-out too. If an opponent shoots from outside, that middie and maybe one of the longsticks on the top corner can tear off upfield for a fast outlet if the shot is saved.

One other question comes to mind - if the team on the man up is playing with an X man, what do you do differently, if anything? Does this even happen often?

[LHSlaxNfootball]

we run the box and 1, and if there is no crease man, well go as a pentagon until someone cuts.

[WHEELAX2]

PUTTING A GUY AT X IN MAN-UP OFFENSE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO COUNTER THIS DEFENSE.

EITHER ONE OF THE WING DEFENDERS HAS TO "SHOW" ON EITHER SIDE OF THE CAGE. HE HAS TO HONOR THE X MAN BUT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO COVER HIM.

IF A WING D MAN DOES COVER BEHIND/ LET'S SAY TO THE RIGHT OF THE GOAL, THE OTHER DEFENDERS HAVE TO FILL IN OPEN AREAS.. THE GUY IN THE MIDDLE HAS TO COVER THE AREA WHERE THE D-POLE WAS, THE FURTHEST DEFENDER HAS TO PINCH IN, AND THE OTHER WING DEFENDER HAS TO HELP OUT ON THE CREASE.

[PHSLax]

Easiest man down defense is..
2-3 Zone
.
G.'
.'

Bottom three are defensemen, top 2 are athletic middies.
because this is a zone, your men should NOT chase, which, after a slide, eventually would open a spot for a shot

[PHSLax]

ok that diagram was messed up, but you get the point.
1 D like 3 yards away from the goal to the side, 1 D on the crease, 1 D 3 yards away from the goal on the other side.

1 Middie between the left D and the crease D, but in front. The other middie between the crease D and the right D.

NO CHASING!!
this D puts no pressure on the ball, but hard to get close/medium range shots in.

[goalieskcickay]

Not really anything too cnstructive, but in my game today, our entire middie line were called for slashes, so my crease d-man (Funny guy) looks around and says: "ummmm form a triangle?"
And it was a shutout- Woohoo!

[Frihed89]

Yes the man in the middle of the five has to have eyes in the back of and both sides of his head; be able to slide in all directions; be very quick; be very brut; be able to commit instinctively without thinking about it, and know how to control loose ball situations in the middle.