View Full Version : This brine vs. stx stuff is garbage!!!??! it's like if cascade sued brine!!!!
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-27-2003, 02:53 PM
I sincerely hope that stx partner's with cascade to sue brine for using a visor and chin piece on their lax helmet design....
...sounds dumb when gait, stryke, and riddell are out there w/ similar designs too right???
... well that is what brine's doing... they are sueing one of many lax stick companies that took the offset concept (first used in sports by golf i believe, so it's not like brine invented it!!!!) and did their take on it!!!!!
... if so.... shouldn't the originator of the gloves sue, and the originator of lax shoulder pads sue... and the originator of the shaft sue....
... &*$#ing hell just give the natives all royalties cuz really it's their game anyways... so just shut the hell up brine, and rather than make money off old designs over and over and sueing stx, do what the others are doing and sit down at a drawing board and come up with something new for a change!!!!!
superx-ignitor...ooops there's a lawsuit....
there's a reason no good pro's use brine..... it blows now!!!!
stx= marecheck, g.gait, grant jr. and tons more!
warrior= team usa, powells and so on...(as much as it hurt to admit it)
debeer= tom ryan, paul gait, colin doyle, team canada
mohawk= malawsky's and tavares(for the box ppl)
brine= who? really who??? that field goalie who doesn't even play anymore, or maybe a few goons in the NLL like ladouceur, coyle and so on......
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-27-2003, 02:55 PM
the debeer ppl should sue cuz brine made a guru, probably after they saw the wicked stalls and stuff you can do w/ the wizards...LOL...that one goes out to all the ppl who think the wiz is as good as a guru for trix...that u pollo loco!
laxcrazy
11-27-2003, 03:03 PM
well darn, the native americans(indians) should sue for making lacrosse sticks. after all, the did invent lacrosse and how it is played!
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-27-2003, 03:13 PM
exactly, you ppl are starting to get my drift here....
... it may be a new link of understanding between canadians and americans!
CCLaX24
11-27-2003, 04:17 PM
haha the guru is so much fukin junk
you are a real trickster if u can do it with your own stick...
X2 is good for tricks
bionic is difficult BUT im workin on it :agree
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-27-2003, 04:25 PM
exactly, it's just as easy with the wizard!!!!!
and who else caters to canadian box laxers than stx and debeer, certainly not brine!
CCLaX24
11-27-2003, 04:30 PM
brine is such a joke...no offense to all you brine lovers
but i mean Paul Gait is right...anyone whos anyone in lacrosse avoids BRINE
thats the fact ppl
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-27-2003, 04:33 PM
yeah dude....
i kinda like innovation, i am not intro in lax yet...edge...LOL
anyways... as i was saying i like to improve my game with new stuff, not getting the exact same stick with new sidewalls or new materials every year....
.... hey which gives me an idea, can stx not sue brine for the prophecy....fuse/liquid=prophecy
CCLaX24
11-27-2003, 04:53 PM
damn paul gait u are the mastermind in lax for sueing...lol
damn isnt lax such a soap opera?
unfortunatly thats what its becoming....hahaha
theres a quote " For the good of the game " i have no idea where from but ehh yea...maybe it applies to this :-p
bigDman
11-27-2003, 05:12 PM
*takes edge of starting shaft buts it on gay AL6000 throughs take pictures to put on ebay move revo to starting shaft and wiza4rd to back up puts edge on ebay*
laxattack
11-27-2003, 05:30 PM
amen... dammit im using a vapor. as soon as i get my replacement proton i will dye it with the words long live stx on the scoop!
CCLaX24
11-27-2003, 05:40 PM
GOT LOVE FOR STX ?
those last 2 posts are heavenly....excelent moves
heh i found an edge... and i want to put BRINE SUCKS on the scoop
that would be sweet...
...keeping in mind that id sell that on ebay and rake in some major dough! some brine hater out there would buy it
:clap
Paul_Gait_RULZ
11-27-2003, 06:14 PM
yeah, i think i'll go and beat the crap out of someone in box til the edge snaps to take out my anger of this..LOL
johnnyicesae
11-27-2003, 08:34 PM
The cant and the offset are the same thing. It's just that STX can't use Offset because that is patented. the name offset is like a brand. It's like saying Instant Macaroni instead of Easy Mac
CHMiddie
11-27-2003, 08:56 PM
i read the first post...its all i need.
the originator of the gloves wouldnt sue. cascade wouldnt sue. most companies do it for the bettering of the sport.
now walk into your local sporting goods store.(doesnt applie to anyone who lives in a place where lacrosse is extremely popuar) u walk in and see 2 companies on the shelf. BRINE and STX. they dominate the market by far. people say warrior does...but its only because they control the mll. brine would most def. sue stx.
WHY would you get a patent if you werent going to enforce its legal use?
BTW- POST NUMBER 200 YAY!!!!
CHMiddie
11-27-2003, 08:58 PM
there's a reason no good pro's use brine..... it blows now!!!!
stx= marecheck, g.gait, grant jr. and tons more!
warrior= team usa, powells and so on...(as much as it hurt to admit it)
debeer= tom ryan, paul gait, colin doyle, team canada
mohawk= malawsky's and tavares(for the box ppl)
brine= who? really who??? that field goalie who doesn't even play anymore, or maybe a few goons in the NLL like ladouceur, coyle and so on......
actually the reason no one uses brine is that brine doesnt PAY anyone to use their equipment.
shiftylax
11-27-2003, 09:21 PM
Don't dis BD. He's on the Cannons protected list, so hes probably coming back. PG isn't going to play anymore. Tom Ryan might not either because of his post concussive syndrome issues. David Evans and Gewas Schindler would have been better debeer examples. Also Brine has AA's Kevin Casesse, Tim Soudan, and many other (perhaps older) players that don't play pro. Ladocouer works for STX. And until last year brine had the last 8 college players of the year - in. a. row - using an edge. I'd say that qualifies them plenty.
They also sponsor more start up and high school leagues than any other company ever has, I'm not talking one year and done leagues, I'm talking they started them and they KEEP supporting them. B.U.L.L.S, NESLL, Metro Lacrosse and Winners lacrosse. Grassroots prgrams that help the community. Let's not start the boycot just yet. Wait and see what happens.
johnnyicesae
11-27-2003, 09:44 PM
The Detroit Lions still hold the rights to Barry Sanders...but we aren't going to see him anytime soon
shiftylax
11-28-2003, 10:09 AM
true, but Barry retired because he was bored and didnt want play football. BD was forced to retire due to a medical condition. Check out the protected 20 man rosters. There is more than a few surprises to be found...I REALLY don't think that the cannos would retain BD unless he was at least talking about playing next year.
www.majorleaguelacrosse.com
baxlax
11-29-2003, 11:20 PM
you guys are idiots. although i dont agree with brine suing stx, try to remember back to when stx tried to sue brine for using open sidewalls. you guys are being hypocritical. also, saying that nobody good uses brine equipment is idiotic, because brine doesnt pay people to use their stuff, unlike every other company you mentioned. BTW, not all brine stuff is ****ty. the nitrous, prophecy, matrix, cyber, vapor are all good heads. all of their shafts are good too.
it seems like everyone here is trying to suck up to PAULGAITRULZ too..."hehe ill dye brine sucks on my edge"
i majorly want to flame paulgaitrulz, but i'll tone it down so i don't get kicked off. you're wrong on so many levels.
first of all, how is the supercrosse at all like the ignitor? a three piece finger?
what would happen if there were only fords on the market, because they had the patent and nobody else could make a car? who likes ford anyway?
it doesn't matter if they used the offset in golf. the two designs are not at all similar. same with in x-c cycling, they have offset designs, i'm not sure where, but that doesn't apply to lacrosse. stx has a golf part of their company, shouldn't they get sued too for using the golf offset technology?
lastly, who really cares who works for what company? that doesn't make them any better. if every single top-notch player worked for a company, their products wouldn't dominate the market. what really matters is what the people graduated in and if they know what they're doing. Industrial Design is the right degree for designing products. that's what the guy that designed the supercrosse graduated in. that's what i'm majoring in. i hope to work for brine or start my own company some day.
i'm just trying to show the other side of the story, kids. don't go making huge disses to people or companies if you don't have the basis to do so. when i dis warrior, i do it because i have excellent reason to belive that their products are inferior, except the superfreaks. excellent gloves.
CCLaX24
11-30-2003, 12:27 AM
hey bax...its my opinion like im not a fan of brine...never have been...im all in for the good of the game...with the companies all rallied up like that it creates a "spark" in the lacrosse world...as seen in this post...but in the end it is all better for the game...i honestly wouldnt be surprized if brine were to come out with some "new" stuff for lax...acctually im kind of expecting something big for them but till then
VIVA LA STX
laxin it up since the "good ole days"
Stopper22
11-30-2003, 10:49 AM
this post is so rediclous. Its a bussniess move, thats all. Stop taking things so personal. If you were in the postion that Brine was in you would do the same. And dont try to say youd do the morally right thing and not sue STX cuz you would, to make more money for yourself. When it comes to lacrosse gear, its all a bussiness, as most things in life are. Get use to it thats how things go in life. Its all about the money:dummy
defensemanrule
11-30-2003, 12:37 PM
Yeah anyone would, but Brine is just doing it because their gear doesn`t sell. All they need is money and they think they can do well, but with their heads, I wouldn`t sell either! That is why Brine is doing this!
baxlax
11-30-2003, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by defensemanrule
Yeah anyone would, but Brine is just doing it because their gear doesn`t sell. All they need is money and they think they can do well, but with their heads, I wouldn`t sell either! That is why Brine is doing this!
prove to me that 'brine is just doing it because their gear doesnt sell" and ill consider taking you seriously
give some proof
Paul_Gait_RULZ
12-01-2003, 09:35 AM
again ppl got it all worng here....
I don't care about players and who pays who and this and that, basically i want tons of lax companies out there, if you like brine that's great, but they make their stuff too small and big guys cannot fit into their arm guars and the thumbs on goleves are too small, stx and debeer realize that and make bigger stuff...
All i am saying is that rather than sue brine needs to draw a new patent other than the stupid edge...
the edge is so 10 yrs ago, stx improved the excalibur with x2, but how does an edge with the same freggin offset, same sidewall and all the other crap come out as a matrix??? was it really all that different??? the debeer's are the best example of what i long for, something NEW every year, wizard, triton, torque, phantom, somehting for every price range and player...box tested...hella easy to string....
the edge x still hasn't improved the stringing... the only that did was the nitrous, and not by much either!
SullyLax
12-01-2003, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by raine
who likes ford anyway?
me. :bye
baxlax
12-01-2003, 10:07 PM
any reason you felt the need to edit my post laxattack? i hope using the word "idiot" didnt hurt anybody's feelings too much
Paul_Gait_RULZ
12-02-2003, 02:15 PM
stopper22 that's probably right, but we're discussing the fact that i can't believe brine actually has a case against stx and if they wanna make money, a new design that works may sell, hey how about that???
BuckWyld
12-02-2003, 02:30 PM
they may or may not have a case, that is what they are going to court to decide, I don't think any of us have enough information to make that decision. The quality of Brine's equipment is a completly different subject.
what company has a patent that came out recently? answer me that.
Paul_Gait_RULZ
12-04-2003, 09:22 AM
probably warrior on the finalizer, or i am guessing debeer does on their awesome string hole concept on the triton and torque....
maybe brine's gotone on the guru???
WestSideLa X eR
12-04-2003, 05:25 PM
i like brine. Brine suing stx has no effect on what products i buy. What DOES have an effect are the quality and how good the product is. I see people suddenly "turning against" brine for suing stx when they have been using brine sticks for years. Its just a marketing move that most of us dont know the details about. Like me. Im not sure but didnt brine sue stx over a SPECIFIC offset?
Plus, stx has been suing brine for years according to lax.com.
Why arent ppl pissed at stx? Why dont people just stop using stx heads?
Paul_Gait_RULZ, would you stop using debeer if they sued stx for some reaon?
You guys say the brine should spend time making innovative products when they have been the single most innovative company out thier. Stx? debeer? warrior?
Ive seen more new and innovative products from brine than any other company.
stegmakk
12-17-2003, 10:38 AM
the companies sare acting like junkyard dogs fighting over the scraps...when will the lax companies learn...
join together and help promote lax as a whole...they do not have to be best friends or share design secrets...but crosspromote...and stop wasting $$ fighting each other...let the market grow first and when it is a good size THEN they can fight for market share...