Drilling many holes to lighten shaft

[johnkrz]

is this legal i didnt see anywhere in the manual it said i couldnt.

It says something like cannot modify shaft to inprove preformance. So do you think i could do this and then tape over it.

~john

[kamikaze0188]

Okay you said that you couldnt find anything in the manual about it, yet you also put that you cannot modify the shaft to improve performance. What do you think.. Use common sense.

[PimpD-LaxRider]

i really doubt that its legal but good idea + it would be cool

[stxbionic42]

I had that idea too.. I just didn't bother to see if it was legal..

[livin4lax09]

if you drill holes then cover them with tape you're essentially negating the holes with the tape and it will be the same weight, just weaker.

[RockStar]

is this legal i didnt see anywhere in the manual it said i couldnt.

It says something like cannot modify shaft to inprove preformance. So do you think i could do this and then tape over it.

~john

Dumb idea even if it is legal

If you remove enough weight that you'd actually notice a difference, the shaft will be stupidly weak.

[kryptic]

Also, rain my get inside the shaft and may cause it to rust, I dont know if there's a protective coating on the inside..

[1/2man1/2amazin]

If you remove enough weight that you'd actually notice a difference, the shaft will be stupidly weak.

That's what I'm thinking the biggest problem would be

[ex-lax]

sounds pretty stupid the strength would suffer alot and, would it really be a noticable weight change

[lax1127]

if you get rid of wieght by drilling holes your just gunna gain the wieght back by puting tape over it

[1/2man1/2amazin]

I think tape weighs considerably less than metal as far as covering up a hole is concerned. Although I don't think you could make a noticeable difference anyways.

[OutBurst]

Also, rain my get inside the shaft and may cause it to rust, I dont know if there's a protective coating on the inside..

Anodized surfaces don't rust.

[hbmedic]

No it is not legal, and it would weaken the shaft so much that it would break from the weakest hit.. The reason you can get away with the drilled hole for your head is because it is near the end.. Sticks are very light these days, why do you guys keep talking about pinching your heads, drilling your shaft, adding ridiculous amounts of shooting strings, and other idiotic alterations.. If any of these techniques were an advantage, college and pro lacrosse players would be using them.. They don't.. Noone does.. You just have to practice.. IF you have a weakness you feel you can improve by trying these idiotic alterations that may or may not be illegal, then you need to practice.. In lacrosse and in life, there are no shortcuts.. Get used to that now, and learn hard work and practice makes you a good player and a great person.. Not shortcuts and trying to get over or get by the rules.. Just practice.. Find a wall, find a friend, cradle while watching TV, whatever it takes.. Stop blaming the stick for your problems.. Its not the stick.. hbm

[LaxAttack2]

i've done it to my alloy2000 with my friend when we were really bored, doesn't make a diff., well maybe it does, but really it's pointless, anyways the holes will rip the palms of your gloves and messing up 120 dollar gloves with a twenty dollar shaft is deff not worth it

[staples]

Sticks are very light these days, why do you guys keep talking about pinching your heads, drilling your shaft, adding ridiculous amounts of shooting strings, and other idiotic alterations..
You're one to talk, using an evo/revo pro and you just posted in another thread that you use 6-7 shooting strings, while most people use 3.

[LAXstar]

one hard check to your stick and it will snap in half like a pretzel.

[extreme lax]

if you get rid of wieght by drilling holes your just gunna gain the wieght back by puting tape over it

ya tape weights as much as aluminum :whyme: (sarcasm)

[hbmedic]

You're one to talk, using an evo/revo pro and you just posted in another thread that you use 6-7 shooting strings, while most people use 3.

Well, 1st of all I've been playing 30 years and played collegiate lacrosse.. Therefore whatever I want to do I can do.. however, when I was a developing player I didn't try any silly tricks, I didn't have an illegal stick, I believe at the time I only used 2 shooting strings as well.. Shooting strings really makes no difference.. Baking or pinching your head, using an illegal pocket, drilling your shaft.. Ridiculous attempts at overcoming a lack of ability.. As a matter of fact, I see the Mesh the same way, but Mesh is widely used and acceptable so that doesn't matter.. Never the less, I suggest practicing before trying gimmicks.. If the collegiate players aren't doing it and the MLL players aren't doing it, then it has no advantages and believe me, those guys are the authority not me.. Just look at what their using.. Stick to the topic, do you have something to offer?! Probably not.. or I should say obviously not.. hbm

[exile lacrosse]

hbm- you forget that inovations such as shooting strings was someone experimenting with new ideas. they havnt always been there. sure some things are stupid, but who knows- the next "crazy" or "stupid" idea or alteration may just in fact be the next shooting string.

on another note wasnt there some hype about warrior or brine making a shaft with a bunch of holes like this?

[RockStar]

^^Forget arguing with HB. He knows everything about lacrosse. It's simple - if you argue with him, He's right, and you're wrong.

[hbmedic]

Okay fine, go ahead and do it, who cares.. Its your money, and hopefully when your shaft breaks you'll fall on it.. hbm

[OutBurst]

You talk a lot but don't say much Mr. 69.

[LaxAttack2]

hbm when are you gonna learn? i know this sounds harsh, but it has to, respect is the most important word when your talking about a forum, ever since you came here you've displayed none, all you've done is just argue and start fights with people, liek the person above said, you think you're always right and if people say anything else, you talk about how you've played for 30 years, mesh sucks, the mll and college players don't do it so why should you, pinching sticks and custom pockets suck too, and that you could whup us all in real life and that we're all faceless nobodies who hide behind our computerscreens, why can't we just have normal threads with respect and just share our views, you shared your point that it would make it really weak, but then you went on with your useless rambeling, so all ask for are normal threads about lacrosse or anything like the ones before you came here, run by us faceless nobodies in the real life, which should be easy for some one who's played lacrosse 30 years + and someone whos lived on the earth for more than that, please just act your age, when a 13 year old can see it why can't you? pleaes man

[Radioactive Ape]

Ya and that thing that New Hampshire is part of Canada and that goalies are stupid argument made by hbm is hilariously retarded.

[hbmedic]

You kids are just ridiculous punks and the internet is a forum where you can act like your adult and talk to people the way you want to without getting slapped.. So hide if you want to.. The fact of the matter is that I have been playing lacrosse for 30 years, and I've been around the block.. I've been around the world.. I've played lacrosse at all levels, so I believe you are the ones who "Think" you know everything. 30 years of lacrosse at every level of play, growing up in Maryland with players of all levels and coaching 4 years at the High School level allows me to give advice and be considered an "Expert".. You, on the other hand, are not.. So when you are an "Expert" at anything, please come back and give me some advice.. If you don't like my advice great, disregard it..

Regarding goalies, I was just kidding with that kid.. Goalies are okay, I assume they are as intelligent as anyone else.. I really haven't hung around with a goalie.. One time our goalie in college drank 2 pints of jack daniels in about 10 min and ended up with his eyebrows shaved off passed out over a doghouse.. Thats about all I know about goalies.. And regarding New Hampshire.. Dude, New Hampshire is in New England, I hate New England, I hate Boston, everyone up there is white trash rednecks..and as far as Lacrosse, they really have no history.. Mention New England and Hockey, fine, great, your the best.. Therefore, might as well be part of Canada..

Thats it.. Take it or leave it.. The arguments I usually get into on here such as kids trying to bypass actual practice and skill, hard work, are usually directed to one person and are partially on topic, if you don't agree, great, who cares.. Your nobody.. Your experience is minimal.. so if you want to cheat or get by then your skill will never improve and you will never get to the next level.. And thats fine with me, we don't need cheaters in collegiate lacrosse.. and we definately don't need players that would rather get by than give 110% every single day they walk on the field.. Got it.. End of discussion..

hbm

[regulate34]

evey thing you do to you stick or you pads or watever is to make your selfe a better player and have a edge or others and doent try to tel me that the pros do not have somthing done to their pads/gloves or stick to gain an advantage over every one else they all doo it

[Mavido]

Im going to fill a spare shaft with this foam that is used in insulation.. its lighter then air.. so it will actually lift the stick b/c its nearly all Hydrogen and a slight amount of carbon.. it should be pretty sweet if it actually works.. and i think my dad can get it uber cheap b/c he works with constuction people.

[staples]

HBM you're living in the past, get over yourself. If you were as popular as you say you are we would have heard of you, leave you loser.

[lottaLaX]

And regarding New Hampshire.. Dude, New Hampshire is in New England, I hate New England, I hate Boston, everyone up there is white trash rednecks..and as far as Lacrosse, they really have no history.. Mention New England and Hockey, fine, great, your the best.. Therefore, might as well be part of Canada..

Massachusetts is quickly gaining recognition as a hotbed of lacrosse. Have you ever seen Duxbury High play? I suggest you do.
Also, I wouldn't go around calling New Englanders rednecks; we consistently bring up the finest athletes and students in the country. And remind me, which state voted in the Terminator?

[johnkrz]

Damn ppl i was wondering if this could help make my old shaft lighter so it is relativly the same weight as my game stick. Im not trying to get past doing work. You are talkign to a kid who does a minimum of 2 to 3 hours practice during the season and at least 30 mins a day in the off season.

[LaxAttack2]

rjr lol at first i thought you were joking and gonna start talking about putting a dyed head on that shaft to speed up your shot, if you aren't that sounds pretty sweet

and as to hbm, i'm done with that and you, i'm just tired of mostly everything you've brought to this forum (some of your posts are great)
-faceless nobody

[staples]

Damn ppl i was wondering if this could help make my old shaft lighter so it is relativly the same weight as my game stick. Im not trying to get past doing work. You are talkign to a kid who does a minimum of 2 to 3 hours practice during the season and at least 30 mins a day in the off season.
He ruins every thread he speaks in, one of mine was closed because of him.

[Mavido]

LaxAttack im 100% serious its an actual foam its what they use to make some boats float.. its an awsome foam i have played with it before.. and i dont know if this is possable but make a shaft that is almost boyant.. think about that it would feel like its a gram or so total, im going to look into it i dont know the exact stuff but my dad does hes an engineere and a mathmatician so im sure that we can figure it out.. Its gona be IMP if it works!

[LaxAttack2]

:agree: that's pretty crazy, if you have any extras send one out to me bc you know we're homeboys :agree:

[Mavido]

Dude you have the black dragon.. i dont think you need any cooler shafts.. ok! honestly your just being a little greedy.. and thats a SIN!

[LaxAttack2]

lol yeah i know, i am very very gratefull, but hope that works out and then we shall rule the land with our shafts, but really that stuff sounds pretty sweet, what's it called?

[Mavido]

i said i dont know the exact name, but its the foam that is used in inulation in some homes and they use it in boats, like pontoon boats to keep positivly boyant.

[LaxAttack2]

hope that works out for you, sounds pretty sweet, if you could get pics of it that would be sweet

[livin4lax09]

one more mention of hbm and this will be closed.

[stegmakk]

I am all for experimenting and product innovation...but drilling holes in the stick will just weaken it and it will snap...
I dunno about filling the shaft with foam to make it lighter (can't be possible)...but hey you never know...

[RockStar]

....
I dunno about filling the shaft with foam to make it lighter (can't be possible)...but hey you never know...

It's not possible......unless, I guess, if the void space in the foam is filled with something lighter than air. Even if the foam is lighter than air, the shaft filled with foam won't be and the foam will still weighs something

I'm intrigued, let's think about this for a second:

-The volume of a hollow lacrosse shaft is about 0.06 cubic feet (I modelled the shaft as a 1" diameter cylinder 32" long. My model actually overestimates the volume).

-Air weighs about 0.08 pounds per cubic foot. (That doesn't matter to me, but hey, some of the board members worry that their tape job might weigh too much!)

-So even if I could replaced all of the air in a hollow stick with something that had ZERO mass, I'd be saving a big fat 0.005 pounds (0.08 ounces).

You want to waste time with this, go ahead!

Me, I'll just figure that an ounce or two either way doesn't make a damn difference, and I'll just buy stuff that's solid enough to last!

[stegmakk]

Or we could all just put in a little extra work at the gym...what's that term again??? oh yeah...noodle-arms