Wisconsin-no haters

[Marquette#2]

Settle down boys. Jack did you contact/ get a reply from fontbonne. Butters what have you been thinking about school?
Also this is this threads 250th post. Thats pretty sweet, only smaller then one other thread on the forums.

[Eclipse]

Hey punks, Im in STL now...panosian you need to learn how to spell coaches names for one thing...2 Jack your interested in Fontbonne? Lemme know if you have any questions its like 25 minutes from my house, pretty small school. Also i thought the camp was good as well, waiting for my reply from coach Gonnella just sent that out the other day. Hope Wisco is good. Peace

[Butters14]

Whats fontbonne is that a d3 school? I dont know what i'm doing for school, I'm starting to lean towards just playing college club, but I'm really not sure.

[Marquette#2]

Fontbonne is DIII they just got a team. I suggested it to jack after hearing about it from Jaron. And speaking of that little piece of ****, how’s St. Louis? Did you get in any summer leagues yet? Hope your doing good and repping wisco well. Btw I’m surprised I spelt any names wrong I thought I looked them up before writing it.

Jaron let me know what Guns response is. I just sent out some e-mails today myself.

[Eclipse]

what up boys. Not in summer leagues, im waiting for fall leagues. We have two fall ball leagues here so im just kind of waiting for that. Hopefully it goes well. Start school tommorow...****

[Marquette#2]

damn. you start school tomm. that sucks.

[Eclipse]

haah yeah but i get out in may....suckers

[Butters14]

yeah well i'll only have 2 periods a day after may, and they'll be foods and weights, thank god for ap classes

[DwinsChamps]

well i get out the first week of may and dont start until sept 7th. Who's the sucker now, Suckas!

[Eclipse]

yeah but your also ugly

[Butters14]

this coming from the pedophile who wants bices sister...

[DwinsChamps]

yeah but your also ugly


Quite ugly, as i was named to both homecoming and prom courts, all while holding the numerous state championship trophies which you came so close to getting...hey, a 7 goal loss is kinda close, right?

[Butters14]

dont be too hard on him, he just couldnt fill the 250 pound shoes of a beached whale... maybe they should have played jack on wing, him and lindheim would've destroyed us, or would've enjoyed playing draidle as we pummeled them

[just laxin1221]

[QUOTE=DwinsChamps]Quite ugly, as i was named to both homecoming and prom courts

Homecoming and prom aren't beauty pagents... congrats on runner up for prom queen though.

[Eclipse]

hahahahaha who is this guy? If he lives in wisco, sucks that i moved. anyway. What do you guys think about some of the madison teams coming to the STL this spring. You guys can get in some pre-season games, and get destroyed in the action! JK. Lemme know wha you think. Oh yea, pano is the only person allowed to bring a team from milwaukee. it would be pointless to play the others.

PEACE

[Butters14]

yeah i mean withotu pano there who else would bend over for you, might as well say from madison only middleton and verona, jack and horvath are the only ones here willing to do it

[Marquette#2]

F you butters. Sorry Jaron but I did look into it and we won't be coming down to STL. Specially with gas prices (3.20 today wtf is that?) We're hopefully going to get a few games in chi. and the jesuit tourny in indiannapolis. In other news some kid from cali moved hear and goes to our school. Supposedly he was either all-county or all-state out there. Sounds pretty legit. just more fire power so we can pound butters into the ground this year.

[Butters14]

Well you'll be pounding us in to the ground with a new coach. King got hired as an assistant coach at Denver. Yeah... didn't see that one comin. I'm kind of wondering who we're going to get to coach, or our team may be run by me from the goal...

[Eclipse]

where in denver...the university?

[Butters14]

He took a job as an assistant coach for the university of denvery lacrosse team

[USMlax]

He took a job as an assistant coach for the university of denvery lacrosse team

WTF? You must mean their club team, because nothing is mentioned on their website...

[Eclipse]

Thats because this is breaking news, and the only reason we know is because he told us.

[Butters14]

No not with their club team, this explains how he got Torpey to come coach his camp. He wouldn't leave to be an assistant coach for a club team, you have to remember he has a regular job here as does his wife. I'm just curious as to see who they're going to get to coach us now...

[Eclipse]

coach campbell

[Butters14]

yeah but if campbell coaches us i'd have to move to attack... no one else is fat enough

[Marquette#2]

lol. amazing about king. I'm sure this will help put wisco on the map.

[LALax5]

Wisconsin BOOOOO, i heard Western Springs lacrosse swept ur tourney with ease, and they arent even the best in the state. What happened there all you wisconsin no haters?

[lacrosse19]

western springs isnt the best team in the state of IL by far, its funny how almost all of wisconsin teams go to MN, IL and MI and beat up on everyone they play...

[DwinsChamps]

I wouldn't say "swept with ease", on account of their full squad barely, barely beating our squad that had a backup goalie and only 3rd liner middies...

[AStyles17]

hmm...sorry bud....ive never heard of a wisconsin team beating any out of state teams worth a damn...try again..bahahahaha

[Eclipse]

the more you talk the more i hate you.

[lacrosse19]

astyles17, honestly how much do you follow wisconsin lacrosse, check laxpower... then speak

[devillax57]

astyles17, honestly how much do you follow wisconsin lacrosse, check laxpower... then speak

Western Springs is not the name of their high school team. Most of the kids play for Lyons which is ranked above every wisconsin team. Thats on laxpower.com

[Eclipse]

im pretty sure we all knew that, its a mix of hinsdale kids too.

[DwinsChamps]

so if all those kids are from an amazing lyons team, how did their full squad barely beat our half squad of ****ty kids??

The final was 12-10, and im pretty sure that we had one of our top 5 attacks, our third line middies, no face off guy, and a backup goalie. Congrats on beating our backups, astyles...

[Butters14]

mike i think it was 10-8, i know i only let in 10 goals...

[AStyles17]

alright smart ****...hinsdale beat middleton 10-6...supposively one of the best teams from the "great state of Wisconsin"...and lyons township...mostly WS..beat hinsdale 10-3...that would mean that if middleton or anyother of u wisconsin-no haters would play our highschool team we would own your sorry asses...wheres your logic now smartass.

[Eclipse]

considering thats was there 8th game and our first...ill take the loss. Considering i talk to Coach Ryan about that game and he was shocked at how well we played after i told him it was our first game, ill go ahead and say you can basically shove it up your ***. Oh yeah, we were also projected to beat every team we played in that tournament by like 4 goals. 28 degree weather and snow doesnt help

[devillax57]

considering thats was there 8th game and our first...ill take the loss. Considering i talk to Coach Ryan about that game and he was shocked at how well we played after i told him it was our first game, ill go ahead and say you can basically shove it up your ***. Oh yeah, we were also projected to beat every team we played in that tournament by like 4 girls. 28 degree weather and snow doesnt help

i played in that game and our most of our seniors didnt play in the 2nd half. It might have been a closer game if we played you at the end of the season, but i think we could have still won it

[Eclipse]

meh we could sit here and say the same thing to eachother that we both could have won but, i guess you guys still did so.

[DwinsChamps]

Its true, middleton is one of the best teams in wisco, but we (verona) beat them 11-4 in the state champ game, so don't pair us up with any old team that hinsdale beat...not to mention, we've beaten teams by two goals early in the season, and killed the same team by a 10 goal margin later in the season; there are too many factors that add into a games score for you to use the score of one game as a reflection of our entire state...

With your own logic, your awesome team beat a handful of our varisty kids by a 10-8 margin. with your logic, id have to assume that we change a two goal margin if we have a faceoff guy, our starting goalie, our first two middie lines, and 4 more attackmen....again, your logic...

Besides, styles, no one is saying that LT is bad or that Wisco lax is better than illinois, im just saying that you need to give us more credit than you have been. You can't deny the fact that with the full team we expected to field, Western Springs wouldn't have made it past the second round of Brewtown.

[devillax57]

wow why dont we just plan 2 games this up-coming year. Hinsdale-Middleton, LT-Verona. That will make things easier. Its easier said than done though

[AStyles17]

the same goes with us...i dont know why you guys keep assuming we had our full team..including missing an allamerican goalie...and at least half of our varsity starters

[DwinsChamps]

ha, verona graduated all of their important players, minus the decent backup goalie and a pole or two...we probably wont be top five in the state...

id like our verona team to play western springs at least...

[Eclipse]

besides what dwins says i dont even play for middleton anymore, and u cant compare having an all american goalie on WS because nolan was a graduated senior and WS doesnt play grad. seniors. Not that the goalie u guys had wasnt bad because he was solid.

[Butters14]

Verona lost like 17 seniors, so we're out of the picture in the top tier of wisco lax, although if any illinois teams wanted to play us regardless, i'd love to play out of state teams. if your interested in looking to play some wisco teams send me a pm, i could even spread the word to some of the area teams because we're looking to play out of state teams more often

[stinisonfire]

in response to Jaron's post earlier...

On a side note, Jace is playing @ Saint Leo University, the first NCAA sanctioned lax team in Florida (D2) and Campbell is playing at Mars Hill, also D2. And that goalie out of Middleton (Brad, I think his name is) is starting keep out in CA Wittier in D3.

[Eclipse]

yeah if all goes well ill be playing at St.Leos next year too!

[Butters14]

you mean if they lower the height requirement...

[Illlaxhelp]

Madison Players- Fall Ball starts Sunday Sept. 11th at Keva Sports Center. Register individually at Keva for a 6 games league. Games will be played at Keva's outside field. Details on Keva's website. Spread the word.

[lacrosse19]

haha actually we have some pretty short kids on our team, but they can pretty much do anything with a stick in there hands...

[Butters14]

I notice how pano was absent from the milwaukee game, perhaps afraid of butters destroying that self esteem of his

[Marquette#2]

Nope. Just stayed at my friends house a little longer so I could finish up the Notre Dame v. Michigan game. I got there at about 4 and played in the mens game instead. Why did you guys leave so early?

[DwinsChamps]

Yea, Pano, your coach is a deusche. He asked me and trev wirth to play d for his team at brewtown, and he talked to us like we had never played before and made us wear all marquette equipment so as no real teams knew he had brought in ringers....although im certain they knew when the marquette defense suddenly appeared to have men playing for them. then he got all pissed when i had to leave for our verona game, thought i was 'doing him wrong' or some bs. at least your assistant coach is a nice guy, too bad he has to deal with that jackass of a head coach you guys have.

[Butters14]

We left because we were told that was the only game we were going to be playing. We didnt know there woudl be a mens game as well.

[Marquette#2]

Storts. Kinda uncalled for, and kinda late. Our dpoles you referenced were a back up JV guy and two 4th line var. middies that were using extra poles for the first time ever.

[Eclipse]

you have 4 lines of Dpoles? Woah

[Marquette#2]

"4th line varsity middies" not 4th line d-poles. The period after var. is to signify an abbreveation not the end of a sentance.

[LAXatives55]

hey, im from IL, but we played u my soph year. our coach was kinda crazy and switched all of our postions, so u destroyed us, but it was still cool to play an out of state team

[Marquette#2]

Who did you play, and where did you go?

[Butters14]

"4th line varsity middies" not 4th line d-poles. The period after var. is to signify an abbreveation not the end of a sentance.

You have to remember that Jaron's autistic, thats why we had to kick him out of wisco...

[middleton23]

astyles is a effin dou.che bag man...im sorry but why do the two states talk crap to each other? we have nothing on east coast lax AT ALL, besides man...if ur name is "steihls" or w/e and not styles, then i saw you play and you are not so hot at all...only players that were any bit memorable were padilla (whos also a dou.che bag) and a d pole kid...astyles, shut the f up man...play lacrosse

[gitrdone]

I went to Wisconsin once and i saw to kids thowing the lax ball around and i was like wow did not see that one coming.

[middleton23]

thank you for your intelligent, helpful addition to this thread...

[Marquette#2]

nice. what area?

[DwinsChamps]

Dude, padilla was a good guy. There was another good player from that western springs team who you didnt give any credit to, i think he was a captain, but he played attack. and yeah, that brody kid wasnt bad either at d. Your assessment of steihls, though, is right on the money.

[Eclipse]

winders i think his name was...justin winders. LT...ive read about him. O and Beau of course...hes raw as ****.

[middleton23]

maybe padilla was different when you were playing him...he almost got into a fight with trevor, and was talkin sh1t to all our guys, complaining to sid and i thougth he was kinda a weird kid, he told me "i just joined the lacrosse organization, im not good" and hes like talking about some weird stuff the whole game...not to mention even tho they were up 7 goals he was still jumpin up and down, and screaming the whole game which could in part be that hes just an excited person, but it was kinda unneccessary, after the game he took the ball and thru it into the air, along with his stick and gloves and they all did there little "we're number one" pose for the picture which im sure they 'all expected to run over the competition' anyways

[DwinsChamps]

Gotcha. Yeah, jaron, winders was the kid i was talking about...

[Butters14]

jack first of all i dont even see a styles post on here, although i would have to agree he reminds me quite a bit of one henric heide, for those of you dont know, kevin bice's boyfriend

[Butters14]

You're right, 50% of our varsity team, plus 50% of our jv team losing to this western springs team by what one goal? yes we're going absolutely no where. That team should've walked all over that entire tournament, and they struggled to beat a 50% jv team. Congratulations... looking forward to what you have to say to that

[Eclipse]

lol styles u kill me...penn state thats cool. but dont say no ones is going anywhere. in our three years of lacrosse in this state 5 players have got scholarships and about 5 more will next year. Considering we have had lax for a couple years...ill take it.

[Marquette#2]

Last time I checked Jaron started this forum in the right way “no-haters” If you’re not from Wisconsin or have anything constructive or interesting to say about lacrosse that somehow pertains to Wisco lacrosse, leave.
Astyles personally I think you’re a joke and I’d have to say the majority, if not everyone here, would agree with me. What school do you go to? I’m sure you’ve said it in the past, but I can’t remember and don’t care enough to check. If it’s a even half way decent school I know that we’d be willing to play you guys and then the winner will have some legitimate bragging rights instead of all this transitive property bullcrap. You tell your coach tell me and we’ll set it up somehow.
I’m also interested to hear more about a previous comment by Jaron about Penn State. I couldn’t find any past comments about it as the site has a peculiar habit of dropping comments for some reason. I’m assuming that it has something to do with Astyles considering the response was to you. If I could get a quote similar to the one Jack provided that would be optimal.

[DwinsChamps]

As much as i hate that steihls, he does/did play for lyons township....they would beat the best team that marquette could field by nearly 30. No joke, i hate to say it, but they are a great team and would embarass every wisco team minus our Verona squad from last season (if we were better coached on offense). They have what wisco teams dont have, and that's good youth programs and good coaching. Not to mention, a 6'5 dman who is good...like penn state good.

Steihls, btw, says that he's playing ball at div 1 penn state next spring, which is what jaron was refering to. I personally dont think that he's d1 quality (he's not listed on the laxpower recruits page...hmm), bice is better and put in 4 or 5 against a GOOD western springs (i.e. lyons township) defense. Steihls tallied one against our defense and butters.

[Eclipse]

Steihls isnt listed because he is a senior this year, he has one more year at LT

[LALax5]

Last time I checked Jaron started this forum in the right way “no-haters” If you’re not from Wisconsin or have anything constructive or interesting to say about lacrosse that somehow pertains to Wisco lacrosse, leave.
Astyles personally I think you’re a joke and I’d have to say the majority, if not everyone here, would agree with me. What school do you go to? I’m sure you’ve said it in the past, but I can’t remember and don’t care enough to check. If it’s a even half way decent school I know that we’d be willing to play you guys and then the winner will have some legitimate bragging rights instead of all this transitive property bullcrap. You tell your coach tell me and we’ll set it up somehow.
I’m also interested to hear more about a previous comment by Jaron about Penn State. I couldn’t find any past comments about it as the site has a peculiar habit of dropping comments for some reason. I’m assuming that it has something to do with Astyles considering the response was to you. If I could get a quote similar to the one Jack provided that would be optimal.

Last time I checked your the one hating Illinois lacrosse. It is simply too true what AStyles has said. I cannot personally vouch for the fact that he is going anywhere, but I do know that Lyons would crush you guys had they had their full team. Their goalie from last year, might have been the best ever goalie in this state and had he not tried to play football he could have gone top 5 DI. WS was also missing Teddy Winders who is a nasty attackman witha 91 MPH shot. You will definately catch him on the All-American team this year. Had they had those two players it would have been pure domination. There was also this LSM on Lyons who is a top notch basketball player who rumor has it got calls from Hopkins and 'Cuse this summer for BBall and Lacrosse. If you guys still think you can take them I suggest you call for your asswhooping. The only reason Loyola Academy lost to them is because their bush-league coach called a penalty on ours for dipping on the field, and that wasn't sportsmanlike, we also lost a great number of our seniors. Id say look for an LT- Loyola match up in the state championship, and either of our teams could smoke your entire state. So Bow Down! :guns: :guns: :guns: :guns: :bartmoon:

[Butters14]

What the hell are you talking about? We aren't hating on Illinois lacrosse at all. We've *****ed about style because he comes on here and starts talking trash. You're right LT could have probably beaten us this year but I'll tell you this much it would have been much more of a game than you give us credit for. But since we didn't play I don't see how you can just assume you could walk over us.

[Eclipse]

alright i have thrown my **** in here enough to im basically laying it all right now. i dont hate illinois lacrosse at all...in fact i have nothing but respect for it. They field high quality teams and have great coaching. I was simply hating on steihl...the kid said after the tournament he was wrong and had a "new view of wisconsin lacrosse" Now all he does is slam. Props to anyone in illinois besides him. I have met alot of players from almost every top team in that state and liked every single one of them. Winders was on that WS team by the way...i rememeber seeing him thinking he was a solid player, and yes we all know brent nolan is sick as hell at lacrosse and one of the best goalies the entire midwest has ever seen. Now to the loyola kid we dont hate on you guys...in fact i dont even live in wisconsin anymore, i live in STL, but im still not gonna sit her and let you guys rip apart wisconsin like its worth a ****. Verona was a solid team, and could have been ranked top 5 in any state in the midwest aside from maybe ohio and michigan...that includes illinois missouri minnesota indiana and all that, so lets just chill out and relax. No state is hating on any other state here.

[AStyles17]

first of all you were the ******** that started talking ****..me and loyola here are simply defending ourselves..calm down and stop pretending like you know all these illinois laxers...how would you know how good brent nolan is if youve never seen him...know the facts before start running your gums

[Butters14]

styles, you came in and said something like you've never heard of a wisco team beating anyone worth a damn. Seriously no one here is trashing illinois lax, if you'd read you'd notice that. We dont go trash the forums about you guys so give us some respect and dont trash ours. Like i said you cant say your lt team would've destroyed our verona team, we didnt play eachother. the best representation of how it would've turned out is laxpower, you guys (lyons township) had a pr of 90.58, we (verona) had a pr of 90.00. Quite close if you'll notice. That would probably translate if we played to the numbers, which after a full season are quit eaccurate, that you would win by probably 1-2 goals. Thats not an asswhooping by anymeans. Wisco lax is far better than you give us credit for. So seriously, stop with all your bull**** banter, all we have to judge how the game would've ended is laxpower's numbers, which clearly dont show the anhialation you seem to think that woudl occur. I'm not trying to trash you styles, or anyone else in illinois, i'm sure you're a great player but you know what you're making yourself seem like an *** to everyone on these forums. Check yourself before you speak.

[gitrdone]

nice. what area?
The south part?

[Butters14]

I think he meant madison or milwaukee, those private school kids... they dont know how to clarify they expect everyone to know what they mean... [no cursing] liberals

[Eclipse]

Styles i have met players from hinsdale, GBS, NV, naperville Central, wheaton, and yes LT...i liked them all, and to be honest looking at the way u post on other forums u seem pretty chill as well, except when it comes to wisco lax

[DwinsChamps]

Jaron and Butters, good posts.

[Marquette#2]

I agree. I've said it once before and I'll say it again that as of right now we should be supporting each other and the rest of the midwest because we are huge underdogs to the two coasts. Interstate rivalries are always good, and no matter how much you guys think you'd kill us by i'd still be interested in setting up a game with a few ill. teams.

[middleton23]

thank you alex, havent i been kinda preaching that for a while now?

[Marquette#2]

What's up boys. Hows 7 v 7 in mad town going, not a whole lot of lax to report from milwaukee.

[Butters14]

hmm notice they deleted a few posts on here

[Marquette#2]

yea idk why they do that. anyone know what boyd/neuman and ne1 else from wisco has decided for college?

[spenny]

i did it because if you guys cant keep this thing civil there will be bannings.

if you dont have anything good to say about WI lax dont bother posting here.
and WI guys... remember how the second guy in gets the flag... just ignore them.

[middleton23]

THANK YOU
finally some freaking order in our thread

[DwinsChamps]

When are all your indoor league games goin on this season? IM me your schedules, Butters or Jack.

[Butters14]

storts as of right now its the outdoor 7 on 7 league, 4-530 that field right outside keva. Indoor hasnt started yet but i'll give you the schedule for that one i have them

[laxjunkie]

Attention NE Wisconsin players. There will be two free sessions of open play at the Sports Emporium in De Pere on Saturday, October 22 & 29 from 9:00 - 10:00 p.m. Also, get all potential new players to the free sessions on the same days from 7:45 - 9:00 p.m. to get them interested.

Indoor starts November 5 - go to the Lacrosse America site to sign up.

[Goldenbearslax6]

i am not from mi but i heard u guys pretty gewd

[devillax57]

im from IL and i know that the madison players are pretty sick

[Butters14]

devillax are you from the hinsdale team that played middleton this year?

[devillax57]

yeah, i play D. That tourney sucked cuz it was WAY to cold out

[Eclipse]

haha yeah no kidding man....every time i took a check from my Dman it was like getting hit with a hammer. I took a missed pass by the kid in front of me to the thigh and it bruised like crazy. But thanks for the compliments on madison players guys. And for the record i know michigan and chicago are the top two midwest hotbeds...not counting ohio.

[stinisonfire]

alright smart ****...hinsdale beat middleton 10-6...supposively one of the best teams from the "great state of Wisconsin"...and lyons township...mostly WS..beat hinsdale 10-3...that would mean that if middleton or anyother of u wisconsin-no haters would play our highschool team we would own your sorry asses...wheres your logic now smartass.

dude, you're from illinois. stfu n00b

[stinisonfire]

haha yeah no kidding man....every time i took a check from my Dman it was like getting hit with a hammer. I took a missed pass by the kid in front of me to the thigh and it bruised like crazy. But thanks for the compliments on madison players guys. And for the record i know michigan and chicago are the top two midwest hotbeds...not counting ohio.

haha, thanks. we try.

[Cheez-it]

See this is the way it should be, in the IL lax forums everyones *****ing at eachother about how good their team is. Good job, Wisconson i commend you.

[Eclipse]

hahaha thanks cheez it, your the man

[NVLaX15]

We played a wisconsin team two years ago, middleton? Fun to play you guys if you're on here.

[Eclipse]

yeah lots of middleton guys for us. I remember that game, we played like crap, but you guys had some very athletic players

[NVLaX15]

Yeah man, that tournament was kind of joke though, we won it last season again, some of the teams they put in there like that hopkins team from two seasons ago are fricken terrible.

[Eclipse]

yeah no kidding...and champaign centennial or whatever is what...im pretty sure someone beat them 25-0....thats pathetic.

[Butters14]

Jaron your missing out, kevin leveille is living in madison now, and hes helping out with our outdoor league... bet ya love st louis now

[NVLaX15]

Kevin Leveille is the [no cursing] man, he did a shooting clinic down here last week, hes a cool kat.

[DwinsChamps]

God damn i wish we had a real coach when i was at verona...

Butters, in case the Kevin Legeille thing doesn't work out, you seriously need to tell Mr. Horvath to make a laxpower.com coaching vacancy. It's free, so the only thing he's losing is 5 minutes of his time...

[Eclipse]

well thats cool that he lives there...and yes i still love STL. despite one man we still have the better lacrosse and better coaches.

[Butters14]

yes, but you have to crack the starting lineup to experience that better lacrosse toddler

[Butters14]

and mike i think mr horvath found a uw grad student to be head coach, thats what dcups said at least

[stinisonfire]

wait, Jaron I thought you were coming to SLU next year? Or are you at a PG in STL?

[Eclipse]

never said i wasnt...im coming for my visit this month on the 27th...idk where ur getting that im not unless ur talking about fontbonne, which is not my prime option....?

[DwinsChamps]

he's a playin hs ball at st. loooey.
Btw, i was talking to bice today, he's the second line left attackmen at goucher, closing in on first line. He doesn't like the school too much though, and his room is creepy bc some kid slit his wrists in it two years ago. Yikes.

[Eclipse]

hahahahahahahaa. Well at least he is playing sick wit it....by why doesnt he like the school?

[middleton23]

sick wit it

that name originally comes from a street hoops player, and i met him at the Finish Line at west towne mall...he walked in the store and some other black dudes yell "SIK WIT IT" ... and thats my vh1 pop up video random fact

[Eclipse]

you said you met hot sauce u dirty liar

[middleton23]

they whole team was in there, i just didnt think u wouldve known sik witit...so yeah they were all there, white chocolate and the lot

[attackgod]

so ill take any1

[attackgod]

watch out Oregon is gonna be good this year u guy's just wait

[attackgod]

well not being biased but the mala is probably the best conference

[Butters14]

Oregon will be as good as Lafollete was this past season

[Eclipse]

Amen...i laugh if u guys win a game

[Marquette#2]

The newest piece of Lacrosse being mentioned in Wisconsin's media. Not exactly positive: From the Marquette Tribune ...

Party comes back to haunt lacrosse team
Student Affairs cracks down on alleged hazing
By John Borneman and Phil Caruso
Tribune Staff


The men's club lacrosse team has had its spring 2006 season canceled, its official club status denied until next fall and is being accused of engaging in hazing rituals.

The team held a party at a private residence in early October that was attended by a majority of the team and other students. Photos taken at the party were posted by a team member on WebShots.com, a public photo-sharing site. The photos show at least some team members performing keg stands and drinking from a beer bong. Some of the team members were photographed wearing nothing but thong underwear.

As a result of that party, the university became aware of the lacrosse team's actions and accused them of violating university alcohol and hazing policies, according Vice President of Student Affairs Andy Thon.

"Following procedures in the student handbook for violations of club regulations, (the university) held a student conduct hearing," Thon said.

The university's decision to suspend the lacrosse team was based on the club's violation of university alcohol and hazing policies, Thon said.

For the past few weeks, the team has been locked in an investigation that has led to the cancellation of their spring season.

As a result of the hearing, the lacrosse team will not be recognized as an official student organization until fall 2006, according to a university press release.


The rest of the article can be found at:
http://www.marquettetribune.org/285893538311887.bsp

[Eclipse]

LOL oooh god. Can you really be retarded enough to post pics of your whole team getting wasted wearing thongs and not expect to get caught. Thats no good man. Sorry to those guys but, shoulda been more careful.

[dale1prosist]

Recognize any of these Marq. freshmen?

[lacrosse19]

HAHAHAHA WOW

[Eclipse]

HAHAAHAHAHAHADHAHAHAHAAHA....nuff said

[stinisonfire]

Hahaha... oh Max's place.

Jace and Jaron know what I'm talking about. Jaron you missed strip *ping* pong.

[USMlax]

I just looked on Goucher's lacrosse website and noticed that Bice is not rostered for the 2006 season. Does anyone know anything about this? I understood that he didn't like the school, so did he transfer?

[Eclipse]

yeah to minnesota

[USMlax]

Gotcha, is he going to transfer to another lax school (DII or DIII) or stay at Minnesota next year?

Also, besides Raumann and Sollenberger, are there any NCAA laxers from WI anywhere right now?

[USMlax]

hello...is anyone out there?

[Eclipse]

chill Jace is At Saint Leo which is D2...and Campbell is at Mars hill which is also D2...then of course sollenberger is at whittier...and no bice is not transfering anywhere else hes basically done with NCAA lax and just wants to go to a big school.

[USMRISSELL]

yo geb and anyone else i know

[Butters14]

storts had an opportunity to go to kean university in new jersey, i also have talked to that coach and i sent in my application there, i've also talked to st johns which is a nationally ranked club team looking to go division 3. most of the verona alums are at uw milwaukee.

[Eclipse]

So far my list is as follows:
St.Leos (Tampa FL, d2)
Marymount (D.C, d3)
St.Johns (Minnesota, d3)
Fontbonne (St.Louis MO, d3)
Bellarmine (Kentucky, d1)
Mount St. Mary's (Maryland, d1)

[USMlax]

Jaron, your list is awesome...how'd MSM and Bellarmine see you?
As for me:
-Kenyon (DIII)
-Denison (DIII)
-Whittier (DIII)
-CT College (DIII)
-Dic.kinson (DIII)
-Salve Regina (DIII)
-McDaniel (DIII)
-VMI (DI)
-Lindenwood (DI Club)
-Marquette (Club)

[Butters14]

my only suggestion for both of you is make sur eyour ready to make the commitment and make sure you like the school and dont just choose it b/c you want to play lacrosse. kevin was someone who loved lacrosse but hated the school enough to outweight that love, and most of those schools are a lot of money to spend even for a semester only to find out you cant handle it or dont like it. As for me, I'm thinkin right now i'll end up at uw-whitewater playing club.

[Eclipse]

hey lindenwood is going to kind of downgrade from what they were...im not sure what you mean by d1 club, there just club. In facy now that they were caught giving money to players they have been stripped of there conference championships...forfeitted there 03 04 05 seasons and cannot go to nationals for a few years. alot of my friends go there...great lax, very very boring school

[lacrosse19]

butters is right, i cant stress enough that you guys need to be sure that your ready for ncaa ball. i know wisconsin has a lot of talent but usually compared to the schools that you guys are choosing, might not get a lot of playing time right away. school is always first, i mean for me right now at leo...im loving the lacrosse but i hate the school (just b/c they dont have graphic design here) so im in a major i dont want to do. just try and get a balance of a school you will like and then the lacrosse you are happy with.

[Eclipse]

Not much i can say to that except...i know its what i want to do.

[Marquette#2]

Sounds good for everyone. We'll see where I'll end up. I just wanted to give my boys some quick credit for winning the Gobbler (indoor lax tourny). I was a little bit dissapointed to see no madison teams there. Bayport did come done from GB which was cool. Whose beating up on who in Madison's league? And geb. I've heard some rumors but what is your coaching situation looking like for next year?

[USMlax]

What rumors?
As for the coach, Boyle is our new coach...

[veronaD#02]

What's the dealio in the keva league? I know verona's not the same team, that's for sure...

[Butters14]

depends how you look at it, middleton played liek the team the best, other than urso just shooting all the time, idk who won the game between sun prairie and west but west was dominated by boyd and neuman, sun prairie looks quite respectable and they played pretty well as a team. as for verona, well is any school open for transfers? i'd lvoe to get outa here

[Eclipse]

We could use a goalie down here in STL butters

[warriors1234567]

hey now lets not count waunakee out...........lol butters were in the same boat waunakee graduated all the starters on varsity cept 1 or 2 were pretty much ****ed for a couple years but we got 14 freshmen who won there league

[Butters14]

sorry jaron, stl is a bit far... but i'll consider...hell if soemone pays for me to live there i'll go

[veronaD#02]

haha, i think jaron meant to say, "We're looking for a goalie down here in stl, Butters. Do you know any?"

j/k butters, j/k

[tdarcy]

Nate/AKA Butters14:
What's this about UW-W....Kean out of the picture (I knopw it's a bit expensive)? At any rate as far as Keva goes, don't be too hard on yourself or your team. Indoor is fun but apretty far-removed from outdoor. I think your team will good again this spring. Hope to hear from you soon.
T. Darcy
tdarcy@aol.com
PS BTW: SP beat West/Waunakee something like 14-12 or maybe even better.

[Butters14]

I applied to Kean none the less, and my parents are still seeing how we are financially. Looking slim at the moment so I have to make sure i have an option around here I want to do.

[tdarcy]

Good move...you never know how things might go. Be good to drop the coach a quick note letting him know your situation and that you applied. Hope things work out for you either way. You'll do well wherever...
TD

[spgoalie06]

sp is in the same boat as waunakee n verona...we only have one returning starter so dont give up on verona yet theres alotta young teams

[Eclipse]

Middleton Vs Marquette

'Nuff said

[middleton23]

ill prolly agree with u jaron...
does anyone think that west/sp will catch up with mhs??? i wanna hear vaild arguments cuz some people are sayin they will and i dont know why

[Eclipse]

Middleton-lil' Adam, Urso, Haviland, Gundy, and Grant returning on D, along with Kneebone in goal.
West-Boyd, Nueman.
Sorry west but the numbers just dont match up. As solid as your two players are they cant compete against a team of good players. Especially a team who will no doubt have the best defense in the State.

[Marquette#2]

It's hard to say. I can't say anything bad against SP cause they beat us by 1 to start the year but we did play really bad that game. Middleton then beat us by 2 that same year, so I don't think they are that SP is that far behind. I don't know who they are returning though. As for West I don't see how they wouldn't compete with Neuman and Boyd. Plus I think Middleton may be losing a few more key players then some of you think. (Jaron). As for us I'm not to worried about the milwaukee teams if the indoor tourny is any indication (beat combined USM and Eastside with their best players and we definately didn't have all of our top players there because of hockey). Outdoor season is a lot different then indoor too so who knows. But its still hard to say what we'll do against madison teams and I don't know how many games we'll even have out there this year.

[Eclipse]

I still just cannot see west beating middleton. Middletons offense will have a cake walk considering west has no defense, and a goalie that needs to improve in the offseason a little to step up, not to say darcy isnt a good goalie, he is good at clearing for sure, he just needs to be more aggresive. On top of all that neuman and boyd will get good matchups against Haviland and urso, but even if they beat them they have a tough slide package in grant and gundy coming there way. With kneebone in goal its going to be even tougher for them to score outside shots. Add on to this the fact that having lost erik....west attack wont score a single goal all game, with maybe the exception of little white throwing in one.

[Butters14]

jaron heres the deal, lets look at west and middleton like this... West has two scoring threats who will always put up goals: Boyd and Neuman... Middleotn has one scoring threat: Urso. Contrary to belief lindheim sucks, and i didnt think haviland was anything special this past season, he didnt do anything really. Also no matter who you have on defense or whos in goal boyd and neuman wills till score, all that matters is whether urso can keep up with their scoring. I see west and marquette int he state championship game. Middleton expects to be there, west wants to be there. West Will be in the state championship game... heard it hear first

[USMlax]

I'm not to worried about the milwaukee teams if the indoor tourny is any indication (beat combined USM and Eastside with their best players and we definately didn't have all of our top players there because of hockey). Outdoor season is a lot different then indoor too so who knows...

Very true, outdoor is much different. MUHS poles are hardly intimidating and I foresee a very close matchup in Milwaukee this year, because the indoor team's better players had already played 4 games (Bottecelli, Pereles, and myself) with only 3 subs on each respectve sideline (USM had 7 players, 4 of whom were Arrowhead players who rode pine, Eastide had 5 and). MUHS may have depth, but more ball possession for Eastside will bode well.

[devillax57]

hey i remember playing last year against middleton and there was this kid who was the same grade i was (junior now) and asked me if i was jewish...yeah out of the blue...i remember i shut him down though...and Eclipse was slashed pretty hard by our best d guy...i think shut down too, but not sure about that...and oh yeah the D guy on middleton who was jacked scared me just a little bit...only a little...

[Eclipse]

pish posh...a goal and 2 assists. That best defense men who is nasty fell flat on his face on a dodge and i scored. I even have a picture. And butters, shutup. Middleton will beat west. its not gonna take very great players to score on them. I will even say you might be able to get a goal on them yourself. Middleton will beat West. Sorry.

[Eclipse]

Sorry Geb...milwaukee in my opinion will run over milwaukee teams more this year, then in years past. They lost one person, and there poles im sure, do a good job maintaining your attack. keep wishing!

[Butters14]

first off... marquette will dominate milwaukee just as it did last year, every team down there sucks. second of all, jaron anyone could score on west last year, theres no difference other than one defenseman and that one defenseman couldnt have made more than a 1-2 goal difference. The loss of trevor from middleton will produce thta same result. Middleton is not a dominate force, middleton will do as well as urso and kneebone can make them do. I'm not saying west will blow thim out, but west will be int he state championship game./

[middleton23]

Very true, outdoor is much different. MUHS poles are hardly intimidating and I foresee a very close matchup in Milwaukee this year, because the indoor team's better players had already played 4 games (Bottecelli, Pereles, and myself) with only 3 subs on each respectve sideline (USM had 7 players, 4 of whom were Arrowhead players who rode pine, Eastide had 5 and). MUHS may have depth, but more ball possession for Eastside will bode well.

didnt you talk up USM last year too? and then you guys finished near the bottom of the conference...

[Eclipse]

Understand that no one is a dominate force anymore in wisconsin Butters. Every game is going to be a shootout. Im not gonna sit here and argue cause i know middleton will beat west...and you know west will beat middleton. The only thing were going to agree on is that Verona wont be in the picture :bawling:

[Eclipse]

Vail is very competitive and not to sound like the put downer but this may not be the best time to compete in a tournament like that since Wisconsin lost most of its talent to graduation, and even with those all stars we still managed to get shafted at a gay tournament in michigan and only take third. A smaller tourney may be better to start in, but do whatever.

[middleton23]

Middleton expects to be there, west wants to be there. West Will be in the state championship game... heard it hear first

are you just pulling that out of your @ss butters?...how do you konw that west WANTS to win and middleton doesnt...you say some stupid shiit

[veronaD#02]

Jaron, i can't agree with you more. While people tend to think that with so many years under their belts they can compete in some big name tourneys, the same kids need to remember that collectively, Wisconsin teams are not anywhere near as good as they were last year on a national level. Graduation pretty much pillaged Wisco of its star talent, and it's certainly going to be awhile before we get that back.

I suggest looking into tourneys that have good jv teams/lesser varsity teams competing (GLLI is a good example), because spending the time/effort/money getting a vail team together is only going to be a painful setback.

And for the record, middleton is going to own the state this year. For West, Boyd is a tremedous athlete, but doesn't quite have the ability to make a game all on his own. He'll need to rethink shooting some of his shots (usually turnovers) and rely a bit more on newman to make something happen. Nevertheless, middleton (even without trev) should be able to hold newman/boyd to a few (we held them to a total of 3 goals in two games) goals while having an offense that should be able to get around a mike kent-less defense. West's D is ~2.5 stars, middleton's O is ~4 stars. Mid's D ~ 3.5 stars, W's O ~ 2 stars, at best. I don't see how there's any question.
Either way, though, the only reason that any non-madison team is competing in the state finals is bc they are given a spot. No Bayval, Milw, or non-conference team should be able to consistently hang with the upper tier (i.e. middleton, i guess west) of mala this season. Sorru muhs, wausau, and appleton.

Contrary to what some are saying, lindheim is actually good. If he uses his small size/speedless legs to lure defenders, he should be able to dish it all day. Unless, of course, he's playing the impenetrable verona zone (which sadly to say no longer exists)....the brainchild of yours truly.

[middleton23]

its just rediculous for him to say WEST WANTS IT...did he talk to everyone on the team? how does he know that they want it more than we do? he just assumes...thats waht i was tryin to say

nice assesmant of mhs and west off/defense tho storts
that was good-nice and indepth

oh and kent graduated ... i think u were referring him as a player this year

[middleton23]

sometimes you just annoy me, sorry for snapping

[Eclipse]

This def. is not middletons highlight reel season, last year was. This year is a...how should i say...down year for mala. No one is expected to get to state, at all. thats why middleton will get there. For the 4th year in a row.

[Butters14]

No you're incredibly wrong jaron. Middleton does indeed expect to get to state, because they all think like you and think that West wont be able to stop them. The only other team that I see as a potential contender would be Sun Prairie but they lost a lot of people and it depends on how others step up.

[Eclipse]

Stop acting like you know my old team better then i do. Last year we had the best defense in the state. THE BEST GOALIE considering garret was hurt, and some of the top scorers in the state. We lost alot of the power we had from last year, west didnt and they gave us a run for our money. If anyone should expect it, then its west. Its just not going to be. Im sorry but no matter where you are two great players cannot match up against a team of players, once that first line is off the field, the pressure is on. The difference is middletons defense will hold west attack to nothing. Scoring will break down like this.
Middletons attack:3 goals
West attack:0 goals
Middletons Midfield:3 goals
West Midfield:4 goals

Middleton wins 6-4

[Butters14]

I still just cannot see west beating middleton. Middletons offense will have a cake walk considering west has no defense, and a goalie that needs to improve in the offseason a little to step up, not to say darcy isnt a good goalie, he is good at clearing for sure, he just needs to be more aggresive. On top of all that neuman and boyd will get good matchups against Haviland and urso, but even if they beat them they have a tough slide package in grant and gundy coming there way. With kneebone in goal its going to be even tougher for them to score outside shots. Add on to this the fact that having lost erik....west attack wont score a single goal all game, with maybe the exception of little white throwing in one.


Oh yes... I believe this is EXPECTING to win... point proven once again. Jaron's once again in second place.

[veronaD#02]

They say "oh dang" down in St. Louis, too, right?

[middleton23]

When was the last time you talked to someone from your old team? im pretty sure he talks to us every day.

you are a cancer to the state butters

[Eclipse]

yeah, i just dont talk to you butters, cause you suck.

[middleton23]

they say "owned" down in st louis, too, right?

[veronaD#02]

Jaron, i'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that Middleton had the best defense in the state. We gave up 12 total goals, with a new goalie, to you in 3 games (that's 1 goal per quarter). Trev and your "best in the state" gave up 21...11 in the state champ game. Not to mention, our entire starting defense was unanimously voted to the mala team.

After the last few gamesf we've played, I thought that you'd remember how good the rohrer's and our d was...

[Butters14]

user recieved a 3 day ban for this post

[Eclipse]

funny how our entire Defense was named too...but Grant couldnt go, so he play on the team. So both our entire starting D got nominated, and both of our starting goalies got nominated.

[Butters14]

funny how our entire Defense was named too...but Grant couldnt go, so he play on the team. So both our entire starting D got nominated, and both of our starting goalies got nominated.
Key word is UNANIMOUS Jaron... from the email you yourself sent me, all three of verona's defenseman were nominated not only by their coach but also other coaches as well. Only trevor from your team was nominated by another coach. Point once again for me... score: Butters 2, Elf girl 0.

[Marquette#2]

Wow boys, a lot of anger. How bout a new topic. What out of state teams are people scheduling to play against?

[Eclipse]

Well my team in STL this year is Playing Trinity(#1 in KY) St.Xavier(#2 in KY) and Cathedral(#1 in IN) plus a few teams from chi town.

[lacrosse19]

i give the whole "who is going to state" thing a big thumbs down, honestly the both of you can shut up about it. if your going to do anything, why dont you just prove it on the field? honestly there is nothing you two have to say since you don't even play against eachother anymore (jaron in st louis and butters in wisconsin for all of you listening in at home). just see when the season starts and when you get to the point of the state championship, then you can start to argue.

[middleton23]

jace you are such a mediator

[veronaD#02]

Well my team in STL this year is Playing Trinity(#1 in KY) St.Xavier(#2 in KY) and Cathedral(#1 in IN) plus a few teams from chi town.


I dunno about cathedral, but trinity and st. x will be easy wins for your new team.

[Marquette#2]

It was needed.

[Eclipse]

i dont think they will be easy. We will win, but not like you know....a cake walk. Cathedral should be good.

[cherusci22]

I must apologize for muckfadison. He is a teammate of mine on notre dame. a few things u should know is that he is about a foot shorter than anyone else on any team, he takes "low-risers" from 40 yards out and whifs everytime, and he is a compulsive Braveheart watcher, sometimes viewing it 3 or more times in one sitting. My point is that you guys anger troubled children like muckfadison. he really only wants peace and harmony between gb and madtown, but is confused by these posts. he is right in saying that appleton will have a pretty good team this year. one of their guys is quite amazing. I play with him in indoor and he dominates. But no matter what kind of miraculus team ND can raise this year we're still gonna have a hard time beating appleton much less a madison team such as verona. I personally have never played against or even seen a verona or middleton game. i really don't know what u guys are capable of, but from what i hear... you're capable. the fact is that your team(s) has not played us (ND) for like 3 years, and i would throughly enjoy a game against a skilled team. i really dont know why we havnt played verona or middleton or any other team outside our conference, but hopefully this year we will. and it doesn't matter if we're gonna get our asses handed to us, but DON"T ASSUME THAT GREEN BAY's SKILLS RESIDE IN TWO TEAMS (SW and bayport) cuz frankly, from what i've seen they're not gonna be too hot this year. all right, i wish u well.

[Eclipse]

well lets see. I have respect for alot of u GB guys...except for this homo. Lets talk about none of us being Starters. Jace plays d2 lax. Kevin plays d3 lax and was the best player in the state. I led middleton in goals and assists and made the all star team...butters started on the state champ team. Alex is the best player in milwaukee. Damn none of us start. Grow up loser.

[lacrosse19]

which is what i was saying earlier. please please please just play in a lacrosse game to prove it all

[Eclipse]

not to mention those east coast panzies we play like..would light you up.

[USMlax]

"the only people to be recruited from wisconsin are from madison."

Hey...not entirely true. Some Milwaukee guys are getting recruited (very few compared to the talent pool of Madison), albeit only DIII, but recruited nonetheless...

I'm just playin' tho; no harm no foul. Does anyone know how Sollenberger likes Whittier? I'm quite intrigued, yet know nothing about the school beyond what Coach Connor told me over the phone...

On another note, the entire state of WI laxers need to unite for the betterment of the sport. With having such a small a laxer population as we have, regional factions (thank you Thomas Jefferson) cannot arise to destroy us. Arguments are healthty, yet they've become all to frequent and all too hostile. Let's all just relax, beacuse, who knows, Madison, GB and Milwaukee players may all end up on one "all-star" or "all-state" team down the road...and Madison guys, please don't say the team would only consist Madlaxers....

[Eclipse]

My comment towards recruitment was refering to players who have been recruited...not who is getting recruited right now.

[muckfadison]

Muckfadison again. please try and schedule a game against us (ND) all we want to do is play against the best and if yur the so called best, please bring it out . were doing all we can to try and schedule a game but our coach isnt the brightest.

[Butters14]

Verona didn't play ND last year we played Appleton, which I'm led to believe was the best GB team last year, correct? We won 12-6. From what my coach from last year, left to coach at denver university, Notre Dame wouldn't play us last year. Whether thats true or not i'm not sure but all of the seniors remembered the game a few years back and wanted to play you again. As for verona this year, we lost our top 3 middie lines, top 4 poles, top 6 attackmen. I'm the only returning starter, so playing us this year would prove nothing. Middleton and West are the madison area teams to play if you're looking for top caliber competition. Sun Prairie would be a very solid team to play as well.

[Butters14]

I'm not trying to make excuses, i'm stating fact. I have no problem playing you guys, but if you're going to talk trash about last years team you're quite sadly mistaken. Verona's team from last season destroyed far and out the second best team in the state 11-4. You say you're a first class team? I'm saying you can only prove it by playing first class competition. Heres a list of first class teams this year... Middleton, Madison West, Milwaukee Marquette. prove it on the field

[Butters14]

OK lets get this straight, you didn't have the PRIVELAGE to play Verona this past season because you couldn't even win your own conference. The team that did win your conference we beat quite convincingly, 12-6. You were the third best team in your conference behind Wausau and Appleton, so don't try to say you're a top tier team. Second of all, I started playing lacrosse as a sophomore, I didn't start playing goalie until I was a junior, and I'm arguably one of the top 2 goalies in the state. Don't bring this bs about lack of experience, you've had just as much as I've had if not more.

[MadtownLaxsux]

first of all muckfadison does not represent the intelligence in this school.

Second of all im not sure your argument that because you beat a team that beat us you are therefore better than us holds up. we all have different styles of play so i dont think it is fair to say that you would automatically kick our asses.

I was a freshman the first time we played you so I cant really say anything about why we refused to play you the first time. However, when we did play you. It was the worst display of sportsmanship on your part that i had ever seen. I recall people yelling at our coach, throwing helmets around, swearing at our team, etc... So we left when the game was over.

[Butters14]

gee how do i defend the madison conference? Oh yes I know, Madison has won every state championship, Green Bay has never even gotten to the championship game. I also recall a couple years ago in milwaukee when Verona beat your "Green Bay All Star Team", quite handily I recall. Verona also thoroughly handled the Milwaukee "all star" team this year. Don't even consider comparing yourself to last years verona team. Seriously until you guys win something you really cant talk trash. Madisons on top until someone poses a challenge.

[Butters14]

I dont consider 12-6 to be a pretty good fight personally...

[VeronaLacrosse7]

True, we had a few players on the team who...well, weren't good sports. We put up with them all four years, and no matter what we did to try and control them, they got out of hand from time to time. Please don't take their behavior to personify that of the Verona program.
But after the game we're talking about, no one threw helmets, yelled at your coach, etc. We had no reason to. We were smug in the fact that we had just proved our worth in the state, and showed you guys that we can back up our talk. I remember shaking hands, walking off the field, and listening to your coach comment loudly "I question your kids' schools, coaches, and parents. You're a bunch of trashy goons."
Verona consisted mainly of a bunch of hockey and football players who joined lax as an off season sport. That's how we played lax too; physical, but usually the hits were clean. Every team takes a cheap shot now and again, but whenever someone on Verona took one (usually one or two players who had no self-control), everyone made a stink about it because "they're winning, there's no need to take a cheap shot. What a bunch of trashy goons."
Now I don't know what other sports the players from Green Bay play - badminton, soccer, basketball, chess from the look of it - but out-of-state referees have come in to watch our games and have agreed that we play very similarly to how it's played everywhere else. If the Bay Valley isn't ready to play physical, then you aren't ready to play outside of your own conference. It's a part of the game, and when you're able to control the ball like most decent teams can, you won't have to worry about getting pushed around by bigger teams.
So if you really want to play Verona so bad, then dig the sand out of your vagina and strap on your pads, because they're not going to wear Maxi Pads just so you guys don't *****.

[cherusci22]

i have no problem with anyone playing physical. i always hate how lombardi, coach of SW, always complains about ND being too physical. they have more of a soccer mentality which is run. What muckfadison said about "east-coast pansies" was completly ridiculous. Even trying to compare a east coast team to wisconsin is pitiful, much less a mediocore team like ND or Appleton. As i've realized over the past two years the more skill you get the less actual hitting u do, not to say that u shouldnt knock a kid on his a$$ when he cant pick up a friggin ground ball, but u get my point. Notre Dame has three returning starters from last year, and the rest of the positions we hope to fill with some of our more talented football players. Don't know how thats gonna work, but in all honesty i think we have a chance at beating out Wausau and Appleton for the conference. I know thats probably not much to Madison, but whatever kind of competition we can get were gonna play our hardest and go off the field with no regrets. In closing i'd just like to say again, i apologize for my dumba$$ teammates (muckfadison, madtownlaxsux) who can't even have an intelligent discussion without making refernece to how you guys supposedly suck and can't back it up or whatever. i alredy told u about muckfadison, and the other kid is just as bad. so hopefully we can forget about our online chatting abilities and play some lacrosse.

[veronaD#02]

...beating neenah and menasha isnt that hard, and if u cant beat sw, u dont deserve to be a team. when they play appleton or us, then they can say there good, so how bout u defend your own conference.

You know, if you want to set your sights on the upper-tier madison programs, you should be sure to beat menasha first...then we'll talk.

[Eclipse]

You all contradict yourselves way to much in GB. First we played all finnese like "East coast panzies." Last time i checked when we played Menasha a few years ago in state they refused to ever play us again because were too physical. Verona did the same thing to ND a few years ago.
Second lets clean up this getting recruited by crappy illinois schools. Last time i check there was no NCAA team in Illinois so strike 1. Second Kevin Bice was recruited by Goucher in Maryland. Jace Rauman was recruited by St.Leos in Florida. Brad Sollenberger was recruited by whittier in California. Brad Campbell got recruited by Mars hill. Strike 2. On top of that players like me, butters, urso, Alex, Neuman, and boyd have all been recruited by a fair share of D1, D2, and D3 programs across the country. Strike 3...take a seat.
Alright then youre still better then us and we have no class right? Lets take the Brewtown showdown of last year where i decided to play for oregon...possibly the worst team in madison. We had a little other help as well from boyd and a few other good players from the madison area. In no way was this team the best in madison. The Mediocre oregon team i played for managed to succesfully stomped the Green Bay all star team by at least 8 goals. Oh yeah, i think we had some eight graders on that team too!
OK so we have been playing our whole lives here in madison right! Wrong. I dont think there was more then two kids on verona and middletons combined teams last year who have been playing since before Freshman year. Understand what its like to pay 10 bucks every sunday in the winter so you can play at an indoor soccer field. Understand what its like every single winter to play in full sweat suits on snow covered fields just to get better. Understand that here in madison...all of the teams have unity, so then realize why we can get 20 players from four teams together in January and play...just to get better. Its called dedication. Do not tell me about working your butt off until you have seen the work many of the players in madison put in because you wont win.
I dont care if youi like madison or not. But do us all a favor. dont tell me we are the guys with no class. If im right you are the one who just came on the forums...and out of nowhere decided it would be fun to call us ******* and girls. Wow thats alot of class.

Not to mention in the last two years Madison Teams have succesfully outscored its Green bay Counterpart 66-31. Almost twice as good :bartmoon:

Have a nice day!

[spenny]

you guys had this on track for quite a while. lets keep the swearing, fighting and attitude out of here. there have been bannings for the swearing and fighting. dont be the next one banned

[Marquette#2]

A few comments.
1. Don't bring up the Brewtown as a judge of any talent what so ever. Our team that was there had 3 varsity players on it and I assume that many of your teams had very few talented players there as well. The only team there that had a close to full roster was Western Springs and they're from Illinois.
2. I understand that there is little else to talk about now, and thats why people want to talk crap. But when you haven't checked the forum in a total of 36 hours and you come back and have to read through a page and a half of people talking bad to one another just to catch up it is a little bit frustrating. Though it does help you realize how dumb it sounds.
My analysis: Team's change a lot from year to year; however, up until next season Madison owns all bragging rights. All bragging rights, over BayVal and Milwaukee. That's because the winning history lies with them. I remember getting to the State Championship as a Soph and then just being owned (as a team) by Verona. Earlier that day we beat Menasha in a thrilling game, and I was just happy to be there. The next year we were defeated by Middleton in the Semi's by two and contended for the whole game. The rest of the state is catching up, but until we show them otherwise on the field Madison is still king.

So while fighting helps pass the time, it really is pointless.

Alex

[NDALAX]

i must apologize for muckfadison. he means no disrespect. he only wants competiton. our coach doesnt schedule any games outside of our conference so its hard for us to compare ourselves to anyone other than appleton. all we want this year is to play verona. win or lose it doesnt matter cuz we bring it all out on the field when we play. all i wanna do is play. the crap he talks about just drives us to do better. like i said, if u play us, win or lose, yur going to have to work for yur win cuz were not gonna hand it over like SW or Menasha

[laxhippie]

seems like [no cursing] is getting a little too serious around here. I know madtownlaxsux was just messing around so i dont think you should think to much of what he was saying and muckfadison is just a [no cursing] so just ignore him. But seriously I think it would be interesting to play verona and any one else outside of the bay conference who is will to play us. I think that our failure to play alot of different teams the past two years has hurt us and I know i will be pushing for our coach to schedule some more games. So i hope we can all just chill out a little and hopefully play each other sometime soon

[middleton23]

AHHHHHHHHHH WHAT DID I MISS!?!!??!?!?! this is weiiiird

[VeronaLacrosse7]

As I consider myself one of the originators of lacrosse in Wisconsin (not one of the original 5 from Verona, but soon after), the progression of lax throughout the state means a lot to me. I played one game as an 8th grader, and we started an actual league my frosh year (that's right, I haven't been playing my whole life as earlier mentioned...) hence the beginning of lax in Madison. I fundraised for the program, I helped out at the youth clinics, and I made a push to get youth programs established within individual schools. I've put more time into the growth of lacrosse in the state that I can count.

To settle the dispute that's been raging in this thread, the other areas of the state can't contend with Madison. For the time being. We got a short head start on the rest of the state, and the Verona, Middleton and West programs have fielded very athletic players for some reason. I'm beginning to see this in Milwaukee increasingly, as well as teams like Wausau (watch out...) and Appleton. Since the other teams in the Bay Valley have boycotted playing us, I can't attest to how athletic they are.

What I can say is that the other conferences in the state will narrow the gap in talent in the next year or two. Marquette or U School could really do some damage if they got a solid coach out there (not to hate on your current coaches, I'm talking about someone from the east coast who really knows the game well). Madison's dominance is coming to an end, especially since Verona graduated so much talent, and Middleton will lose much of theirs in the next year. With new teams like Arrowhead and Pius IX fielding teams, I think Milwaukee will have their shot at dominance next. I can see Wausau and Appleton doing well in the coming years, as they both had strong showings this last year, but as far as the other Bay Valley teams go, I expect nothing. It's not because they don't have the athleticism or talent; it's because their coaches are not concerned with the well-being and advancement of their players as much as they are their own reputation, and because by not playing against talented teams, they will struggle to improve.

Verona and Middleton had strong showings in the tournament in Illinois. We won respect for Wisconsin lacrosse, which means that out-of-state teams will be more willing to come and play us now. So you at least owe that much to Madison lacrosse.

Like I said - Madison lacrosse dominates, but it will likely be short lived. Hating on us isn't going to do anything. Playing better teams, or shoveling snow off of a field to go shoot, or playing wall ball in 10 degree weather, now those are the kinds of things that will get you to where you want to be. So quit complaining, quit swearing, quit hating everyone else just because they're better than you...because your time will come, if you let it.

Once again, as much as I want Verona to succeed, I want the state to succeed more so. If the state sends 5 kids to play d3, I don't care who wins conference. If the state sends a kid on a full-ride d1 scholarship, who gives a who wins state. It's still a developing sport, and it's going to change by leaps and bounds in the coming years.

What angers me most of all is that by talking trash about Madison, you're attacking everyone associated with it. That includes all of the players who have gone to college to gain respect for the state. That includes all of the players who started the sport initially in the state, the sport which you now play. You should be less concerned about us "cheap, dirty" Verona players and more concerned about developing your left hand. You should worry less about how Madison dominates the other conferences right now and more on how to change that. Basically, you should stop being so greedy, like we've seen all too often from the GB teams (and your coaches especially) and start taking some pride in the fact that you play such a fun, new sport and that you're a part of its beginnings.

[Eclipse]

AMEN Kevin Bice. You never cease to amaze me.

[NDALAX]

i agree w/ u 100%. yes madison lacrosse dominates because of the advancement u guys have down there, but up here were advancing far greater than u would know. u mention Appelton and Wausau as top contenders, but dont forget about ND. we only lost to Appelton by 2 points in the playoffs missing a star defender. also we beat Wausau in Brewtown. everybody has their rebuilding years, just as in pro sports, but dont count us out just cuz u havent played us.

[Eclipse]

He was nout counting you out...he was simply saying he could not contest for your skill because you guys have never played eachother. Also Madison did reach its peak in skill level last year, the years to come will involve a big drop for madison and a big increase in milwaukee and GB. Although i think the skill level of the entire state will not reach what it was last year for...quite some time.

[NDALAX]

yes your rite that u guys did graduate a lot of people, but so did we. i dont mean to sound , but we graduated one of the best goalies in the state. he was for sure in the top 5. we also lost all of our starters but 2, so i think it will be intresting to see who comes out on top this year. also i think that lacrosse up here is growing just as it did down there a few years ago, and im glad, im just mad to see that i wont be part of it when the talant across the state becomes even, because thats what weve been working for since we started playing. all we want up here is competition, and now that appleton is good and so r the teams in madison im looking forward to the regualar season.

[spenny]

i am quite tired of having to waste time in this thread.no more cursing from this point on, any post with cursing will will be deleted, not edited. and posters will be risking 7 day bans.

there is no need for that language, and it is against TLFs rules.

so to sum up:
if your post has those little asterisks in it, i'm going to delete it.
if you try to bypass the filter you will get a 7 day ban,
if you refuse to abide by the rules you will be banned

its really pretty simple.

[middleton23]

ND LAX

ur goalie was HUUUGE

he was the one that took out Eclipse during brewtown that was nasty

[NDALAX]

u gotta give it to him though, he could stop anything and he was as strong as an ox. his only weakness is that he would always go for the hit first instead of trying to save it.

[Eclipse]

yeah he knocked me out...then again...i scored on him more then he hit me. But he was still a beast.

[middleton23]

that guy was RIPPED...why wasnt he playing defense, im sure he could have helped your team much better at defense

[veronaD#02]

So what are some of the scores from the indoor season? who played...

[middleton23]

sadly, sun prarie won the first session...

they were the only team with there whole team there

[veronaD#02]

How'd the rest do?

[UWMLax#6]

Eclipse said, "Although i think the skill level of the entire state will not reach what it was last year for...quite some time."

I dunno, I've been playing at the Men's league in Uhline. There's some pretty sweet athletes coming from Northshore and Arrowhead this year. I'm not sure the kids name, but they guy I play with from Northshore is nasty, and the two arrowhead kids are both manchilds.

[UWMLax#6]

VeronaLacrosse7 said, "Marquette or U School could really do some damage if they got a solid coach out there (not to hate on your current coaches, I'm talking about someone from the east coast who really knows the game well). "

Didn't Marquette, Arrowhead, and Pius all get East Coasst coaches this year? I give Milwaukee 2 years before its the tops. Madison won't really expand any more, but Milwaukee will just keep getting better and better.

By the way who's the Marquette kid who plays at Oberlin, he told me he started the team there?

[Marquette#2]

Marquette kid at Oberlin- Ian Mark. He did start our team. Played one year in h.s. and is now playing NCAA which is pretty cool.
As for east coast coaches: I'm pretty sure arrowhead's coach is from chicago area but he's been playing for well over 20 years. Our coach is originally from Pittsburg, and has also coached out there.
I'll be playing in the mens league next session with a few of my teammates. It should be a good time.

[Eclipse]

Dude you gotta realize the skill level in madison this year was out the roof. Every player on the all star team could have played NCAA lax. Bice wirth storts brett urso me boyd neuman eric gundy the twins grant the Dman from west kneebone butters jason...bro it was huge. That skill level will not be reached for a while. You guys might have some sick players but team wise....we had some serious skill.

[veronaD#02]

Not to mention, there were alot of vital role players who never got accolades or attention that would easily be among the best in bayval/milwaukee. Tham is one, the jewish attackmen are others, even strub is playing some great ball for a good Minnesota State team. Don't forget Jacob Russel, LP/AJ, and (i think a middleton middie) the kid with "the knee braces"...all are playing college of some sort. There was alot of talent that went unrecognized.

[Eclipse]

^^^^
agreed

[UWMLax#6]

I dunno, I'm sure you guys were good, but seriously... nobody from your all-star team probably would have made the cut at a serious program in MI or OH. Did any of your teams play in Midwest Scholastic, how did they you do?

It's cool that you guys have pride. But, it'd be a shame if last year was the high water mark for Wisconsin.

I know I'm about to get hated on, and Eclipse is about to name more sick laxers from Madison, but y'all just ame awfully close to sayin "We were the best there ever was and the best there ever will be" just now. Y'all take a look at reality before u stroke yourselves like that.

It's cool that sum guys from WI are going to NCAA, but is that such a big deal. You should see the scrubs who get reqruited to all those Middle-Low D3 colleges. That aint sayin nuthin.

[lacrosse19]

I dunno, I'm sure you guys were good, but seriously... nobody from your all-star team probably would have made the cut at a serious program in MI or OH. Did any of your teams play in Midwest Scholastic, how did they you do?.

what he was saying that everyone who played on the all-star team would have played somewhere in the NCAA. Which in turn would also mean that they would play at a program at OH and MI and even good IL. i have seen the top players from OH, MI and IL and i can completly agree with jaron and back his statement.

in regards to playing with big tournaments or the top players from the midwest events. we dont hear a lot of info about them in the wisconsin area. it took kids actually trying to find out about stuff like the dixie thing that i know a couple of kids played in. if players from our area (the elite ones) would try out for any other team, i would say that they would be one of the starters or probably second line. we do have the talent and just athletic ability to do so

[Eclipse]

Also i wasnt stroking myself in saying we were the best there ever will be. I am saying we are the best there will be for a few years. I have seen Milwaukee's best and his name is alex, after that u guys kind of drop. In no way will the over all skill level of milwaukee green bay or madison be what it was in madison last season. Milwaukee you have some great talent but its not close to what we had last year.

[NDALAX]

i agree w/ u guys when u say that the talent down in madison was the best it will be for a long time, but up here we got some extremely good players, maybe not as good as u guys had down there, but were getting really really close to it. i played against u guys downt there for 3 years and ive seen what u can do. last year we had a couple extremely good players, but they just didnt care as much as u guys and kinda wasted theri talent, but if they worked as hard as some of us and u guys, we would be rite up there w/ u guys.

[Eclipse]

Like i said earlier, the talent pool will now spread to GB and milwaukee. I can say that this may be the last year a madison team wins state for a while...if they win it at all. Although the talent will move i think it may be a few years before it was as good...but it will happen. you guys want to win and want to play better. you will all get what you have been working for.

[Blade1375]

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[Marquette#2]

Green Bay's system may work differently. I know in Milwaukee we had a conference(sectional) tournament, and that decided who went to state. It's essentially the same system as the WIAA; however, everyone qualified so I don't know how much prestige is in that.
Blade- How many of your varsity guys were at the indoor tournament in Brookfield. It was good to see you guys come down, and some of your players had decent size.

[Eclipse]

3 things: Blade you are probably gonna get banned for swearing
2:no one cares if you were featured on the cover of a magazine
3:The system is the same everywhere. Each city sends the winner of the city tournament to state, except for the host city which sends the regular season champion as well as city tournament champion. EX:

From Madison: Middleton (Reg. Season Champ) Verona (City Tournament champ)
From Milwaukee:Marquette (City Tournament Champ)
From Green Bay: Appleton (City Tournament Champ)

[Marquette#2]

Speaking of the host city issue. Any word on where the game will be played this year? I know it's suppose to be in Green Bay, but what stadium would it be played at?

I'm not a huge fan of the rotating tournament. Pick a nice stadium, and stick with that for years to come. That's how tradition gets built. Madison seems to be the best location, and that's where the majority of the WIAA championship events take place. Seems to make sense.

Also, I think the system is a little skewed, and the host city should not recieve two teams automatically. This isn't saying that Green Bay could not earn a wild-card, but open that extra spot up to the entire state. The best way to choose that team from the entire state, laxpower.com. True, laxpower may not be perfect but it is far better then what we have now. I would hate to see a team that runs the table the entire season lose in a conference tournament on a fluke and not get to go to the show since the host city must send two teams. Thoughts?

[NDALAX]

Word up here is that its gonna be played in the Banta Bowl this year. it was supposed to be played at NDA, but i guess were getting our field torn up so its in Appleton. i also think that it should be the four best teams in the playoffs, but i think what theyre doing rite now is just trying to promote lax throughout the state. in a couple years however, i think they should just develope a system and stick w/ it for deciding who goes to the state tourney. also i agree w/ the idea of it being in madison, seeing as how it is the state capital and all sports go down there for state championships, but i also hear that the Banta Bowl is extremely nice, so i dont know.

[Marquette#2]

That's cool. Are there any pictures of this place online?

Edit: Just found a few. It looks pretty nice. http://www.lawrence.edu/about/tour/banta.shtml . Only problem is it's two hours away from Milwaukee and Madison. Which will have an effect on the casual fan turn out.

[Eclipse]

Looks like a tight field...then again so was breese stevens. they should also move the time of the game back like an hour or two...we only got under the lights for like 20 minutes of our game. Sux

[NDALAX]

i dont know about u guys, but up here we only get the parents and maybe a few fans who arent related to the players unless its a home game, otherwise we dont get much people. home games are the only time we get a lot of fans. do u guys get a lot down there?

[Butters14]

Verona Middleton got a solid amoutn of fans, our game inbullrush had so many people show up. Bullrush championship had a big crowd too. State championship too. Lot's of verona students would come and watch because we were so good, Verona's full of fair weather fans.

[Eclipse]

hahahah Bullrush Tournament had so many fans all over that hill. They all saw me score on you in 10 seconds...and then laughed when kevin scored on us behind the back.

[veronaD#02]

jaron, how good are the attacks and dmen on your new team?