Wisconsin-no haters

[middleton23]

that stadium is nice, i really wish it was closer to madison, we had a good 100-150 kids show up to watch which is awesome (state this year)

[Marquette#2]

Yea, that's my only reservation is the fans. I mean for a state championship you obviously want as many people out as possible. Kids would come if it were like 45 min- an hour away but 2 hours i doubt it.

[Butters14]

Just have it in madison, at least here theres stuff to do/see. Green Bay area is far away and it doesnt have the same appeal as the capital city. Milwaukee, well i dont want to get shot, so madisons the way to go.

[Marquette#2]

Haha. I would say that last year we had a sweet home field, any Verona players that can remember coming out to play can attest to that. Also by the way, congrats to everyone who posts as we are now over 500, and are and will remain the biggest thread.

[Eclipse]

jaron, how good are the attacks and dmen on your new team?

This year we have one All-American attackmen recruited by hefty D1 programs and one attackmen who was recruited by Salisbury, Loyola, Manhattan, and is playing at Butler on half ride scholarship.

Defense is so so...only one senior, returning as all conference from last year..prob all state this year.

[Marquette#2]

How many kids do you think will end up going D1?

[Eclipse]

well the all american actually decided against it because he did not want the commitment...he just wanted to play D3 even though he is the best attackmen in the state. From my team most likely just 1 or 2. From the state probably around 10 D1 recruits

[Marquette#2]

Where's the attack guy going?

[Eclipse]

Weslyan University. Its not a big lax school but he really liked the place.

[Marquette#2]

Thats cool. I think it's pretty widely accepted that you should pick a school for a school, not lacrosse.
I know I asked awhile ago, but whats the word on new programs in the state starting up. Milwaukee area is adding atleast four: Arrowhead, Westside, Brookfield, and Pius.

[NDALAX]

up here Preble is really close to getting a team this year, and also DePere is in the process of getting a team also. id say within 5 years we have at least three or four more teams

[Marquette#2]

I'd hope more then 3 or 4 in 5 years considering the current growth rate (about 5 a year). Do you think Preble and Depere will have teams for next season?

[NDALAX]

Depere i dont think will have a team this year. Preble is about 70% of the way there for getting a team this year. also GB west and east are also close to getting teams, but those are all the schools in GB. as for other citys that would be in the Bayval conference i have no idea, but i would think we will have at least 4 or 5 in the next 5 years in our city, not just our conference. i have no idea what other cities are close to getting teams though.

[Marquette#2]

Depere i dont think will have a team this year. Preble is about 70% of the way there for getting a team this year. also GB west and east are also close to getting teams, but those are all the schools in GB. as for other citys that would be in the Bayval conference i have no idea, but i would think we will have at least 4 or 5 in the next 5 years in our city, not just our conference. i have no idea what other cities are close to getting teams though.

Yea, we'll see what happens. The bigger the better obviously.

[VeronaLacrosse7]

It does seem that the growth has certainly slowed down in the past few years...recruiting in Madison has been at a stand-still as far as getting new programs going. What about Edgewood? Lax would be perfect for them (east-coast prep sport for an east-coast prep wannabe school). Also, they've got lots of athletic talent there, good hockey and soccer players looking for an off-season sport.

I know that the way lax got started in Madison was that Mr. Glenn went to local schools after the Verona program had established itself and spoke at the schools about the sport to anyone interested. That year, we had (8?) programs pop up and we got the MALA league up and running. If we could send someone to schools like Hudson, Rapids, New Richmond, Janesville, etc., all of whom have tons of potential for development, we could start some new hotbeds. Eventually lax will probably reach these schools, but going to them early could speed up the growth process immensely.

It looks like Milwaukee has been doing a great job with this, since they've got a few new programs starting up this year. GB too, since Appleton and Wausau joined last year. Madison has been kind of dormant for a few years, following the initial growth, and even lost one program (Stoughton, who played only at the J.V. level last year.)

The growth of the sport will depend partially on how willing we are to keep it growing. We can't take for granted what we've already got.

[tdarcy]

I think growth in Madison has stabilized but it isn't at a stand still as far as player participation is convcerned...I know that our program (West/Edgewood) has grown every year in the number of players coming out. You have to remember that the game started kind of backwards here...high school first and no youth program to speak of. Most places, like Milwaukee, do it the other way and as the youth players get older they take the game into high school and new programs at that level then commence. The paucity of viable youth programs in Madison is where the emphasis needs to be and that is why youth programs like Verona's, Waunakee's and M'ton's as well as communities like Fitchburg (alliied with firms like LacrosseAmerica) need to be grown. If that happens, then the game in team numbers will grow at the hs level. As for edgewood be a "preppy east coast school"...remember, the talent pool is smaller there and other spring sports pull from it (baseball, track, for example) Right now probably 20% of the kids on the Regent team are from EHS...until there are a few more kids from EHS, the Regents will likely remain a joint team. We're also reaching a point where MALA alumni need to get involved as their college/work schedules permit.

[NDALAX]

its not so much the joining of players thats at a stand still, its more of the creation of teams for highschools. a lot of people keep joining, w/ more and more each year, its just that new programs for highschools is at a standstill. if a lot of people that play for a different school can get there own school to start a program, this will become a varsity sport in no time.

[thedamnedfan]

I saw something about talk of the Indoor Season at Keva Sports. Yeah, and the talk of the Sun Prairie winning and such. I was on the Sun Prairie because a mere 3 Stoughton kids signed up for it. Sun Prairie won alot of their games from alot of cherry picking, but they were well skilled, and worked well with their Sun Prairie teamates, and notice Sun Prairie teamates, and not all, they show little respect for other poeple. But enough with that, I was on the Session One winning team, put up a few assists and that was about it, maybe 8 mins playing time per 40 minute game. But now Session Two has started and more Stoughton kids came out, about 3... hah. And now were grouped with some Verona kids, its alot better of attitude and teamwork but Keva really screwed up the "Divisions." Two divisions that consist of 3 teams each, you play 2 teams for 6 weeks, Stoughton has played Oregon 3 weeks in a row, and now there is talk of for the Spring Season, Oregon and Stoughton combining together. Making 2 Stoughton teams for this year, last year Stoughton only supported a JV team. But yeah. I have noticed alot of more activity in lacrosse from last year to this year thou, its really starting to stand out and I just wish that it was school sponsored so it would get even more attention.

[middleton23]

dont blame it on keva, its that red haired guy...

by the way, for the amount of money that you have top pay for that stuff, the playing time really really isnt worth it

[veronaD#02]

dont blame it on keva, its that red haired guy...

by the way, for the amount of money that you have top pay for that stuff, the playing time really really isnt worth it

...not if you're in for 8 minutes/game

[thedamnedfan]

They broke up the teams better for the second session at Keva. Now its Stoughton and Verona on a team with about 10-12, I play a good half of the game now if not more. Its just I no longer have any form of respect for Sun Prairie. But yeah, the goalie for Middleton is nutz. There is one kid from West that has an unbelieveable power shot. But yeah. I like that there is indoor in the area now, I just want spring to come faster now thou.

[middleton23]

what did ya'll get for xmas???
i gotta digital camera, i thought i'd represent for the mhs kids here with a sample of my fine photography

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c272/JPete23/my%20room/me%20and%20people%20i%20know/7980db51.jpg

[veronaD#02]

Have you ever needed to wash those jerseys, Jack?

[Butters14]

No you wouldd need to play to create sweat and, in turn, justify the need to wash them.

[middleton23]

hey man jayvee counts

[Eclipse]

lay off my man those jerseys ARE PHAT! and we won state in the maroon ones.

[veronaD#02]

...and you lost state in the white ones.

[middleton23]

and you guys wore TOWELS over ur pads

[NDALAX]

those jerseys are tite, where did u guys order them from

[Eclipse]

Im pretty sure they are from wave one

[veronaD#02]

What's the schedule for Keva games...they're still sunday night, right?

[Butters14]

its online mike, go to lacrosse americas website, then look for wisconsin programs. i'm too lazy to find the link myself

[thedamnedfan]

http://wi.lacrosseamerica.com/schedules.shtml

There it is chumps, you Verona guys?

[veronaD#02]

How'd you figure?? Anyways, i say we invite some ringers to play with team Virginia...you know, for ol' time's sake. Jaron, Maryland is all yours.

[Eclipse]

HAHA we shall see if the six hour drive takes me to madison for one indoor game.

[spgoalie06]

They broke up the teams better for the second session at Keva. Now its Stoughton and Verona on a team with about 10-12, I play a good half of the game now if not more. Its just I no longer have any form of respect for Sun Prairie. But yeah, the goalie for Middleton is nutz. There is one kid from West that has an unbelieveable power shot. But yeah. I like that there is indoor in the area now, I just want spring to come faster now thou.

hold on y is it that u are hateing on sp?

[middleton23]

apparently you dont read this thread much... its 98 percent hating on others 2 percent wisconsin lacrosse talk...dont worry.

but yeah, ive seen alot of cheap shots from sp kids, and in the outdoor tourney at keva when they played our freshman, i saw SO many cheapshots...i guess i dont really respect you guys to much either

[Butters14]

haha, i wasnt even doign the bashing fo ronce!

[spenny]

if you insist on it, you guys can trash talk here, but keep it civil, and all in good fun, if you cant take it, dont dish it out. anyone who gets out of line, will get temporary bans, if you get way out of control, you can expect permanent bans.

if you arent sure, dont click post

[spgoalie06]

hold on so ur judging our entire organiztion on like 3 kids cuz ill admitt we have a few trash talkers but theres only like 3 kids who i can think of the are a little bit cheap

[spenny]

PS: any post with cursing will be deleted.

[veronaD#02]

Man....spenny kills the mood faster than a mom who enters without knocking.

[spenny]

hey, i dont make the rules, i just see that everybody plays nice

[thedamnedfan]

Huh, I swore? OH, did I say the "s" word? Well I basically said I got trashed talk after rushing off the field after my stick broke on a stick check and got trash talked for some reason for letting in a goal when I was coming off my man to make a triple up on a guy from west. But yeah, they, SP, beat on the freshmen team in the tourney but yeah. They beat Stoughton because of Stoughton error, they got us in the first game but in the final we totally could have won if our coach didnt show up and coach us differently, but we also didnt play the greatest either.

[spgoalie06]

so r u sayin u can beat our varsity cuz if i remember rite u guys lost to the jv team plus we havent had our whole team since last season at the shootout tourney we were missing all of our d poles except one virtually all of our middies and only one attack was playing against u guys the first time while the other one was playing dpole for the first time ever n i dont think u shuld whine about getting trash talked for making an error thats what happens when u make an error do u expect anyone to be happy about it

[Butters14]

lets solve this problem... you're fighting over a weak 7 on 7 tourney and an indoor league. get over it who cares. its for fun.

[NDALAX]

just a question. i recently recieved a copy of the conference bylaws and was glancing through them when i noticed that under the competition and practice section it stated that "Schools may conduct sport competition and practice only during the defined respective sport season as specified by the Wisconsin Lacrosse Federation and once a week during the off-season, unless the off-season team is a recreational program". does this mean that we can only practice once a week during the offseason? do u guys have the same rules?

[Eclipse]

Yes. That is what it means. Everyone in Wisco has those rules.

[VeronaLacrosse7]

Huh, I swore? OH, did I say the "s" word? Well I basically said I got trashed talk after rushing off the field after my stick broke on a stick check and got trash talked for some reason for letting in a goal when I was coming off my man to make a triple up on a guy from west. But yeah, they, SP, beat on the freshmen team in the tourney but yeah. They beat Stoughton because of Stoughton error, they got us in the first game but in the final we totally could have won if our coach didnt show up and coach us differently, but we also didnt play the greatest either.


I'd like to put into place another rule...take note Spenny...from now on, all posts must be written at a third grade grammatical level or better. DamnedFan, it's not just you, it's a few people on here, but it's hard for me to understand the point you're trying to make when I can't even understand what you're saying (i.e. "They beat Stoughton because of Stoughton error"...eh?) Take the extra ten seconds to read through all the garbage you just typed in before you click the submit button. You can't be in that much of a hurry, and if you are you should start posting after gymnastics practice, not right before.

[veronaD#02]

I second Bice's proposal.

[thedamnedfan]

Sorry it was a quickie, I was trying to get my point in before I had to head off to work. Gosh, jump on my back why dont ya.

[middleton23]

...do you realize how little sense that makes?

noone can read what ur typing till you post it...so seriously, like bice said, take the time and puncuate for god sakes...

also on another note, i noticed that storts hasnt had a 2 page long post lately which accuratley rips apart an entire person, team or organization... i miss those

[veronaD#02]

My apologies, Jack. Thanks to all of the alcohol/illegal drugs I have faced in college, I no longer have the skills to compose such masterful works. Let that be a lesson to you all.

[VeronaLacrosse7]

Does anyone else miss LP's famous trash talk on the Middleton forum from way back? We should get him on here. I'd still need to put it through the ebonics translator to figure out what he's trying to say, but he really had a knack for stringing together beautiful trash talk sentences...

[Eclipse]

hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[Marquette#2]

Just came back from playing lacrosse before the game and during halftime of the Wave game at US Cellular arena. Half time was cool because all the fans were watching us, even though I just played goalie for the little kids. Before the game though (during the high school game) it was really cool to play in a big place like that, even if the seats were empty.

[thedamnedfan]

Do any of you Verona guys play in Kevas Indoor, im a bit choppy on if you do or not? But yeah, Wanaukee definatley plays it like football. Taking runs from half and leveling players on the run, from behind, and on ball down. But yeah, alot of this Wisconsin lacrosse is teams just going for big hits, I notice this alot now, since Wanaukee started throwing out so many hits tonite. Took a few slashs to the throat, and they took quite a few unessicary (sp?) roughness penalties throughout the whole game.

[veronaD#02]

A few of us wanted play so we worked the youth camp early and played the game late, although it's not going to happen again. And yeah, a few of those kids were chippy. Probably upset that ringers came for the verona/stoughton squad.

[middleton23]

hey damnedfan, who r u?

[thedamnedfan]

Tony, from Stoughton, playin in Session 2 at Keva with Verona and other Stoughton kids. Cant really tell you my number, im usually in a different penny every game. But if you notice an all orange stick on the field, orange/black fade Wizard w/ orage Harrow Field stick, thats me.

[veronaD#02]

Yeah, you're the kid who got slashed after setting that pick. I was the lanky kid in blue with the gold helmet...

[middleton23]

/\others refer to him as the exterminator

[Butters14]

Or to some, a closet alcoholic.... haha Mike, Tiller reminisced (sp?) that story to our class the other day.

[thedamnedfan]

But yeah, that was me, takin the slash to the throat, left a nice red mark. But yeah, that other guy that played the first half that was throwin those behind the back passes and shots was nuts. Showin lots more skill than other team, when they played physical, left a few guys sore, especially the lanky Stoughton kid that got layed out on a clear, he was fealin some this morn.

[veronaD#02]

Or to some, a closet alcoholic.... haha Mike, Tiller reminisced (sp?) that story to our class the other day.


lmao, what did he have to say??

[Butters14]

He called you a moron, some kid peuked in his sleep in gibsons class and I asked him about your story. He seemed more interested in table hockey as usual though.

[veronaD#02]

He called me a moron?! At least I didn't go on paternity leave...

[middleton23]

...talk about whipped

[Butters14]

Mike if you had the option of taking 4 months off of work, to extend your time off from june to december, you would most definately do it.

[Marquette#2]

They updated the schedules on laxpower. We have a preseason starting point of 90 this year. Higher then I expected, but pretty many other states have high starting spots as well. Anyone remember what we started at in the past?

[lacrosse19]

dude, everyone starts out at 90...honestly take a look!

[Marquette#2]

I was talking about our state, not my team. I obviously noticed that every team in our state is currently at 90, but every state does not start at 90, and it is higher then where we have started at in past years. But how much higher is my question. I would think this is due to another year under our belt, and Verona's ending power rank.

[Eclipse]

We start at 95.65 down hurr in the Lou.

[middleton23]

oooh man, not good news from baltimore, boys latin's second leading scorer is moving to edgewood and will be playing on west.... there goes my spring

[Eclipse]

To bad i moved. Woulda been nice to see this kid play

[Eclipse]

P.S Sucks to be everyone in Wisconsin except west if this is TRUE. If.

[Butters14]

lets take a look back, I believe after last season I picked west to win state this year? Thank you, bow before me now.

[USMlax]

can anyone confirm this boys latin rumor? if it's true, what is the players name?

[Eclipse]

Nick Hummel.

[thedamnedfan]

What ever... Stoughons takin state this year... lol... yeah right. But theres a possibility that Oregon and Stoughton might have to merge. IDK if its true yet, but yeah.

[Tonkalax23]

yeah, i play D. That tourney sucked cuz it was WAY to cold out

We played in that tourney also. we lost to middleton and wheaton but beat hinsdale. do you guys know if your playing in it this year

[veronaD#02]

That West team will be unstoppable.

[Marquette#2]

When is he moving in, and does he play attack or mid?

[veronaD#02]

Boyd/Newman/Hummel would be a mean mid line...

[Butters14]

hmm, perhaps I'll have to gain some more weight, my only option to stop them would be cover the entire net...

[thedamnedfan]

You would then be the 2nd best goalie fitting that description, Stoughton has a pretty hefty goalie, Big Sam. From the picture he is quite a bit bigger than you. But not sure skill wise because we didnt play you last year, I think.

[veronaD#02]

Yeah Butters, big Samford has approx. 120 lbs on you...not the most agile guy, but he covers the net.

[thedamnedfan]

You should have seen him first session playing, SP had a goalie and Sam was mostly attacking, really funny. But Sam isnt one of the goalies that runs it downfield like Middletons goalie... man hes crazy.

[BigSam24]

What you talking about tony, i tore that up. lol. well not really. Butters how much do you weigh?

[Butters14]

i'm listed at 6'2" 240 lbs

[Eclipse]

Hummel is attack..lefty too.

Since Boyd is lefty they would be able to feed eachother alllll day. Defense is still a question for West though.

[Butters14]

Who cares about defense? They can bust out the Syracuse strategy. "We can score more goals than you can"

[thedamnedfan]

Hah... that strategy usually alwasys works if you got a really good attack and midi line out. But yeah, this Hummel kid sounds pretty raw, goin in my first year varsity this year but yeah, I feel sorry for Sam and Butters, and most of the other goalies in our division, only if this kid is what hes talked up to be.

[BigSam24]

I think its going to be fun playing up against a hard team like that. I dont know much about oregon but im sure that they have some better defenders then ours so i think we will be alright.

[veronaD#02]

I wouldn't go as far as saying Oregon has better defenders. Last year, in two games, they allowed us more than 30 pts...

[Eclipse]

Yea we scored around 14 on them in one game...they arent anything special.

[Butters14]

Only the glorious Verona defense of last year was able to shut down the boyd/neuman combo, add in this kid and they won't be stoppable. No Oregon defender, not trying to start trouble here, would be able to stop the combination of these 3.

[tdarcy]

Guys...the fellow hasn't even moved here yet...I have no idea how this will all play and I don't think we should count our eggs before they are hatched. Things are shaping up for a good lax season here in Wisconsin so let's all just concentrate on that. I just got back from the convention in Philly....heard that Cornell and Notre Dame will play down in Illinois (Benedictine U) in early March...details to follow hopefully soon. Also, the UW-W camp with Coach Alberici from Army is a go for late July and I think the Denver guys want to put on a camp here in Madison in late July too. Please be a bit circumspect on this fellow coming from Baltimore...moving to a new town in the middle of a school year is difficult enough. Don't be shy about sending me e-mails directly tdarcy@aol.com
Hope you are well out there in cyber space.
Coach Darcy

[BigSam24]

We dont have that great of defenders neither. We only have 1 good one and i dont think he wants to play defence anymore anyways.

[thedamnedfan]

Oregon has to have a great defense to stop Stoughton/ Verona in indoor... hah... joke. We played completely horrible on sunday. And second game was frustruating againt Wanaukee.

[Butters14]

It was amusing to watch as I "coached" from the bench.

[thedamnedfan]

Yeah, I got ticked at that game. I was tired as hell and then had to deal with Wanaukees rowdyness. It started to get out of hand after a while, tis why I got in an arguement with the "ref" if thats what you want to call him, standing at half and leaning on the boards and not calling much but some slashes hear and there that didnt amount to the level of some others. I accomplished a goal though, got booted from a game. I somewhat overreacted thou.

[middleton23]

darcy:

he hasnt come yet, i know that, but when he does come it will be the end of middleton forever

haha jk, we have a youth program, but im still sad abou tit

[BigSam24]

I thought that i played a nice game and i also thought that Tom Kirby didnt do that bad. I mean most of the team just kinda gave up and then 1 time it was me vs 4 other guys. But oh well maybe well win next week

[thedamnedfan]

^ the next top comedian!

[veronaD#02]

I hope you kids enjoyed the taste of victory while us verona vets were in town. Now that we're back at school, verona/stoughton may never win again...

Ha, just thought i'd remind everyone.

[tdarcy]

Jack: Well, let's see what happens. I still think you guys will be formidable here in Madison for quite some time...all the teams are getting better all the time.
Take care
TD

[middleton23]

thanks storts, yeah its ttrue but i think verona will get lik 4th this yer

[Eclipse]

I think your being generous giving Verona 4th. West Middleton Marquette and Sun Prairie all top them easily. Wausau prolly too.

[thedamnedfan]

Hey VeronaD#12, we are 2-2-1, that 1 tie is when you were there. We beat Oregon the first two times we played them, tied Wanaukee then lost 2 in a row, one to Oregon and one to Wanaukee. It will be different for the chip.

[veronaD#02]

I thought we beat waunakee...we were up 10-3 when we quit.

[Butters14]

Jaron, he meant 4th in conference not in state. Wausau isn't in our conference. Verona has a very solid shot of finishing 4th.

[thedamnedfan]

I am pretty sure it was a 12 - 12 tie. Pathetic I know, it got hella tiring with the hits that they were throwing out.

[tdarcy]

Jaron:
How's things in StL? Hope you're doing well. Any college plans yet? I know it's getting kind of late for apps and such but if you need a hand, give me a shout.
TD

[NDALAX]

i dont know why u guys down in madison think that wausau is so great. im not saying there not good, cuz when we played them we barely beat them, but if i were u id be more concerned about Appleton, seeing as how they lost absolutly no starters last year. also, there best player from last year is not so anymore, but theyve got an extremely talented middie this year, who i would argue is quite possibly the best middie in the conference. but if you guys are gonna say that wausau will be good, you should also be mentioning Appleton. not trying to rip on Wausau.

[Butters14]

Wausau showed more potential of any team we had played. They were the one team from outside Madison we saw that actually set up a system on offense. I don't know why everyone else thinks they're so great, but me personally I was more worried in goal about letting one in against Wausau than I was vs any other outside madison team.

[odysseybmx54]

no tony, we beat waunakee.. we tied with oregon.. the time that eric wasnt there remember

the second time we played oregon we tied.. the first we won.. we smoked waunakee.. they didnt catch up.. the end score was 13-6 or somethin like that

[middleton23]

whats with the explosion of stoughton kids all of a sudden

[odysseybmx54]

no clue.. people are just getting more and more intrested in the short i guess.. i knoe i did this is gonan be my first year

its good that more people are getting intrested tho

[middleton23]

its ur first year? and u already know about lacrosseforums? wow ur movin quick! Lol

[Eclipse]

Im sure his buddy told him about it jack. Deep breaths.

[veronaD#02]

Haha ^^^^

[middleton23]

that was obviously a joke, JARON

[odysseybmx54]

yeah my friend did tell me about it

its my first year and i scored on a varsity goalie my first game.. it was pretty sweet

[BigSam24]

Well nate it was a wide open goal

[odysseybmx54]

lol yeah i knoe.. it was just pure luck

[Butters14]

I hate to interupt your two's flirting, but what tournaments are people going to this year? I hear verona's going back to chicago somewhere but I dont know any specifics.

[Eclipse]

well im not even in wisco anymore but here were playing about 4 teams from kentucky (including Trinity and St. X) and Cathedral (#1 from indiana) and some chicago team. Were also attending like 4-5 D1 games.

[thedamnedfan]

I know that Ive been pondering tournaments for the Storegon team, (Stoughton and Oregon fusion) but not sure yet, we have an upcoming meeting and it all depends on funds and stuff, but yeah.

[veronaD#02]

Sto-Oregon will definitely need a year under it's belt, at the least, before going to any big tourneys.

[NDALAX]

hey if any of you guys down in Madison or Milwaukee are holding any tournaments and need any more teams feel free to invite us (NDA). i know the last time we played wasnt exactly a friendly game, but that was four years ago and our coach from back then might not even be our coach this year. all i want to do is play some good lacrosse teams throughout the state to see where we fall, and i'm sure my whole team does also. if you guys need an email just ask. i'd really appreciate to play other teams not in our conference, because as of right now, i dont think we have any games scheduled.

[Butters14]

I'll inform Mr Bice, we have our Bullrush tournament every year and I'm sure they'd be glad to have you.

[veronaD#02]

Ha, aside from Bullrush, of course.

[Butters14]

Bullrush is a very respectable tournament, that we will rig so all of the bad teams are on the side of the bracket that Verona is on, only to make it appear as if we are decent...

[veronaD#02]

It's how we've done it for years...

[Butters14]

Except when they set it up so that the #1 and #2 ranked teams in the state play in the semi-finals rather than the championship. Only to set up a slaughter of West.

[Eclipse]

sounds alot like state 2 years ago....

[tdarcy]

I enjoy Bullrush but I never thought it was "stacked" to favor Verona. Last year, we played well against a team from Minnesota and beat SP but ran out of gas even before the game started against Verona and their impenetrable defense...we lost bad but the tourney was till fun to be a part of (I really liked winning against the MN team, I have to admit). Hope you are all doing well and getting in shape for the season.
T. Darcy

[Butters14]

I'm always in shape

[thedamnedfan]

Id like to play in Bullrush this year, if I am capable of it. Im not ever sure if Ill get to play regular season. Freak accidents suck, especially when it makes you bling in your right eye. But yeah, Ive only played in the Keva Fall Tournament, if that was even really concidered a tournament, but it was fun to play, more or less.

[middleton23]

butters you are in shape for the sole reason that ROUND is actually a shape

[veronaD#02]

Jack, excellent point. To be honest, I jizzed myself so badly laughing at that post that I not only needed to change my underwear and sweatpants, but I needed to wipe off the bottom of my laptop as well.

[Eclipse]

maybe you should try getting some booty so things like that dont happen.

[middleton23]

haha jaron lol

yeah, im gettin kinda out of shape too... not anything like butters though

[thedamnedfan]

Well... as for the laptop, I feel sorry it got to know you that well Jaron, I believe? Kinda funny how we all pick up each others names like nothing, its like were one big happy family.

Hopefully Butters is inshape compared to Sam. But he plays basketball, hes like a Indiana Jones Boulder when hes runnin downfield in Indoor. And are you playin Session 3 Butters? Because I have a feeling its going to be a similar team setup this time, other than there are a few more Stoughton kids comin out, a few more of our varsity kids, and im out because of an injury, but yeah. Im gonna be outta shape for another 4 weeks til im allowed to lift and exercise, because of medical state.

[Eclipse]

Well... as for the laptop, I feel sorry it got to know you that well Jaron, I believe? Kinda funny how we all pick up each others names like nothing, its like were one big happy family.

Hopefully Butters is inshape compared to Sam. But he plays basketball, hes like a Indiana Jones Boulder when hes runnin downfield in Indoor. And are you playin Session 3 Butters? Because I have a feeling its going to be a similar team setup this time, other than there are a few more Stoughton kids comin out, a few more of our varsity kids, and im out because of an injury, but yeah. Im gonna be outta shape for another 4 weeks til im allowed to lift and exercise, because of medical state.

Actually no that was storts...number 2 from Verona last year.

I am jaron number 22 at middleton last year. BTW jack is anyone stealing my number?

[thedamnedfan]

Oops... okay. I need to pay a little more attention then. But yeah.

[Butters14]

Jaron you could always sell your old uni's. I'm sure someone from middleton's youth league might be able to fit in to them, or if not you've got some toddler clothing available for if you ever have kids. And yes i'm playing third session, we'll see how that goes.

[middleton23]

my brother signed up for 22, hes playing for us, he signed up for 22, an dhis back up choice was 2...he royally effed up his wrist this evening snowboarding...comepletely annihlated the two bones...he'll be out till season starts

[thedamnedfan]

Well... if Verona and Stoughton have enough, might be two seperate this time through, I know that Stoughton, Oregon and Verona are all playin on the same scheduel it looks like again. Not sure about Wanaukee thou, didnt really pay attention to them.

[odysseybmx54]

well.. i hope wanaukee is playing with middleton and sun prarie so they can get their asses handed to them

[middleton23]

i know its just indoor, but stoughton wouldnt beat middleton...ever

[thedamnedfan]

Indoor, probably not, IDK. We have some pretty good varsity kids playing session three, I think. Outdoor might be a different situation with the Oregon-Stoughton fusion, im not sure how well it will benefit or if it will matter at all, other than there will be a Varsity and JV team, both with good numbers.

[veronaD#02]

Outdoor will be a different situation...middleton will be way, way better than Sto-regon. They have Urso, plus a great defense and relatively awesome attack. Nearly everyone important on their squad has had a few seasons of experience. Stoughton hasn't even played an outdoor game since spring of 2004, and Oregon wasn't competitive last year.

There will be a few teams that Sto-regon can compete with in mala this next season, but I think middleton might be a stretch.

[middleton23]

like verona

[Butters14]

Even that might be questionable, Verona won't be as bad as everyone thinks... I hope. We have a respectable defense, and some hope that our attack will come around and also be respectable. If only we could cut out the midfield portion of lacrosse we'd be a decent team.

[Butters14]

haha, is one of you stoughton kids from on here that kid I dropped tonight?

[middleton23]

has anyone else noticed that there hasnt been a green bay kid talking since the little fight we had?... those kids must like contreversy

[veronaD#02]

Or they've gotten off their butts and are learning the game. I'm most likely wrong, though.

[middleton23]

yeah i dont think ur right...storts why did you change ur name from dwinschamps or w/e

[veronaD#02]

One day I just couldn't log on, so after a few months of pouting I broke down and got a new sn.

[Eclipse]

lol they probably ban you for being such an a$$

[middleton23]

true that

extra words

[NDALAX]

where the hell do you guys think I'm from. do you think Notre Dame is in Milwaukee? I've been replying on this site for at least once a week since i got a user name.

[NDALAX]

and second of all, you retards think just because you're better down there that we dont know how to play? how about the fact that it's 10x more devoloped down there. I havent stopped practicing since the end of last years season, and thats w/o help. we dont have a crap load of clinics and stuff up here like you guys do. plus everyone down there who plays loves to play. most of the kids up here just play to A) stay active so theyre not being lazy, B) think it's a laid back sport so they can say theyre an athlete, and/or C) say they play lacrosse. if we had a full team of guys up here who were as dedicated as me and some others, we would be in contention w/ you guys down there. i gaurantee that once it gets as developed up here as it is down there, you guys wont be talking as much crap about GB as you do now. i understand that you guys have a lot of great athletes that play other sports, particularly hockey and football (i played both until i started lax) but we dont get that up here, mainly in part because up here it's not considered a sport and it doesnt get close to the respect it should. i say give it at 3 - 5 years before our team is doing real good and our conference is given respect. but dont just talk crap about the program up here, cuz its getting there. just wait.

[BigSam24]

Hey Butters that was pretty funny when Rich scored on you from the other side of the field!lol

[Butters14]

So now that NDALAX has cleared up the squabble over whos better, madison or milwaukee (madison), how bout we get back on to normal talk and not trashing. GB guys just chill out...

[Eclipse]

yeah here we go again. and quit playing like madison has hundreds of clinics. The 3 years i was there i dont think i attended one clinic in madison. So shutup and chill before you get spenny in here again.

[thedamnedfan]

Hey Sam, your lucky Butters didnt put that goal in on you him self, you know, when he took it down field. But IDK... he just chose the wrong time to come out and hit Eric.

[NDALAX]

just cuz u didnt attend a clinic doesnt mean they dont have any. and i didnt mean just clinics. you're guys' indoor league is 10x better than ours, but thats mainly due to our lack of schools and players that participate. but still, you cant even argue that lax is more devoloped down there than it is up here. and i dont recall getting riled up about anything other than you guys telling us that we dont know how to play, so why dont u watch who you say chill out to.

[Eclipse]

and second of all, you retards think just because you're better down there that we dont know how to play?

That seems kind of riled up to me, and beleive me if there was a clinic i would have gone to it. I had my hand in basically everything madison lax had to offer, as did others on this forum. Indoor leagues also cant really be better. Whats the difference between you playing on an indoor soccer field, and us playing on an indoor soccer field? Keva league wasnt all that awesome anyway. The refs sucked, we couldnt hit, and most of the games were blowouts. Im not questioning anything at NDA but please stop making claims like you actually know what goes on down in madison, cause you dont. You dont live there, you dont know anyone there, you dont know how our indoor league works, and you certainly dont know what events occur there, like "Clinics"


and i dont recall getting riled up about anything other than you guys telling us that we dont know how to play, so why dont u watch who you say chill out to.

And stop threatening people like you are a tough guy. This is a lax forum, not a WWE event.

[Butters14]

haha J-ron the enforcer...

[veronaD#02]

Dudes, I have to leave eau claire at noon on friday, drive up 7 hours to the U.P., and play Calvin College....the 5th ranked team in the nation....at 9 pm.

Not cool.

[Butters14]

So I'm guessing you'll lose. You'll soon know how V-lax will feel all season...

[thedamnedfan]

Eau Claire has a team? I was unaware of that, I know that theres a UWM team. I went out and watched some games in the fall out off University Bay Drive, behind the hospital. It was like, Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin and a few others I believe. But yeah, what is the Eau Claire team ranking? (D1,2,3 or club?)

[Butters14]

All the Wisconsin schools are club, as are all of the Minnesota, Iowa, and I believe Illinois teams. I think Eau Claire is USLIA, right Mike?

[Kevin Boyle]

Eau Claire and Stevns Point both field teams in the USL MDIA. SP plays in the UMLL conference and EC plays in the UMLL-B conference. Marquetted used to play in the UMLL as well. Kudos to EC and SP for stepping up and taking their programs to the next level. For more information on the USL MDIA visit http://www.uslia.com. The league maintains a very well organized and informative website (with a good forum too).

The only other college lacrosse programs in the state are Club teams. They mostly play in the GLLC (Great Lakes acrosse Conference). Visit greatlakeslax.org for more information.

[veronaD#02]

There ya go...

[NDALAX]

hey Boyle, I'm going to UWSP next year most likely and i was wondering if because they're in a different league than all other teams except EC is it considered a varsity athletic at UWSP?

[middleton23]

i gaurantee that once it gets as developed up here as it is down there, you guys wont be talking as much crap about GB as you do now

thaaaat could be a while...... :) we win you lose

[JJtheJewBag]

Lemme just interject something here, Wisonsin Lacrosse Sucks, thank you, carry on, have a nice day ;)

[Kevin Boyle]

I'm not sure what administrative label is used by the athletic or student rec. department at UWSP to identify the UWSP Lacrosse Team. Some athletic departments that field teams in the USL MDIA refer to their lacrosse teams as "varsity", some still refer to them as "clubs". At Michigan, the Men's Lacrosse Team is referred to as a "Varsity-Club", and it is listed along side Michigan Football, Softball, (that's pretty good company) and other sports on the website. Some Schools make a point of not using such labels at all. Newman University is fielding a lacrosse program via its athletic department, that will participate in the GRLC-B o the USL MDIA. The news releases don;t say anything about varsity or club.

It doesn't really matter though. The fact that an athletic department calls a program by a particular label has nothing to do with the way the program is run, or with what sort of experience that you'll have as a participant. The fact of the matter is that there are some so-called clubs with huge budgets and coaching staffs, that travel nationally to play lacrosse; on the other hand there are so-called varsity programs (even D-I programs) that have tiny budgets, 2 man coaching staffs and rarely travel out of their state. Also, Many clubs or USL MDIA programs compete with and often defeat NCAA or so-called varsity pograms.

More to come...

[Eclipse]

Lemme just interject something here, Wisonsin Lacrosse Sucks, thank you, carry on, have a nice day ;)

Your member name is JJtheJewbag. Enough said.

[thedamnedfan]

Im guessing that JJtheJewBag is probably in a state when lax is even worse. Or he is a really mental east coast freshmen, or along those lines.

But back to stuff about UWEA and UWSP. Now I remember some logo thing from the tournament having to do with the Great Lakes, just didnt take it into concideration, was more fixed on watch some games. But at least the sport is advancing.

[Eclipse]

jjthejew is the from illinois, which i have no problem with, and dont bash. Although its a known fact my current resident (St.Louis) has better lax then illinois.

[thedamnedfan]

I almost moved to St. Louis, but im not sure if I would have been involved in lax or not. I used to like in Kansas City, and I dont think they had anything for lax at all in the area. But Im not trying to bash, hes the one that came here and said WiscLax sucks.

[Eclipse]

no hes gay its cool. Actually Kansas City on the MO has Rockhurst Jesuit who finished 4th in MO last year...but there the only good team.

[middleton23]

Originally Posted by JJtheJewBag

Lemme just interject something here, Wisonsin Lacrosse Sucks, thank you, carry on, have a nice day ;)


jeese its like lindheim just moved to illinois and started bashing wisconsin all of a sudden

[middleton23]

actually his brothers name is jj, not him, but still jewish

[thedamnedfan]

Yeah, but Rockhurst really wasnt my kinda school.

[Eclipse]

There still pretty good at lax haha.

[Eclipse]

1000th post. Right here in the Wisconsin forum baby.

I'd like to thank Jack for helping me get here, providing me with great oppurtunities to throw his opinion back in his face. And of course all the kids from Illinois who talk smack on our wisconsin forum...for allowing me to be an ******* back to them. AMEN!

[Butters14]

No thanks to me? By making fun of your elfish features I allowed you to cry at your keyboard... Oh wait, that doesn't involve you posting back. My bad.

[middleton23]

haha we have a fan club!!! check it out

[middleton23]

This has taken me a lifetime to read and as a UK player I am totally lost! My point of view is that Milwaukee are a good side but Madison are going to win? I found this site from www. ********* .co.uk and you guys have a much better conversation going on. Good to see lacrosse is so big in the states and growing in the UK. When is the final 4 being played i might pop over and watch it?

ill translate that: Milwaukee is a good team (or has good teams) but madison has better teams

they even know madison is better in friggin englans

[laxjunkie]

Memorial Day weekend - May 27-29 in Philladelphia, PA. DI Semis on the Saturday, DII and DIII finals on Sunday, Final on the Monday. A full weekend of lacrosse. Well worth the trip for all ages.

[Kevin Boyle]

(This got posted in the wrong spot, sorry)

"I'm not sure what administrative label is used by the athletic or student rec. department at UWSP to identify the UWSP Lacrosse Team. Some athletic departments that field teams in the USL MDIA refer to their lacrosse teams as "varsity", some still refer to them as "clubs". At Michigan, the Men's Lacrosse Team is referred to as a "Varsity-Club", and it is listed along side Michigan Football, Softball, (that's pretty good company) and other sports on the website. Some Schools make a point of not using such labels at all. Newman University is fielding a lacrosse program via its athletic department, that will participate in the GRLC-B o the USL MDIA. The news releases don;t say anything about varsity or club.

It doesn't really matter though. The fact that an athletic department calls a program by a particular label has nothing to do with the way the program is run, or with what sort of experience that you'll have as a participant. The fact of the matter is that there are some so-called clubs with huge budgets and coaching staffs, that travel nationally to play lacrosse; on the other hand there are so-called varsity programs (even D-I programs) that have tiny budgets, 2 man coaching staffs and rarely travel out of their state. Also, Many clubs or USL MDIA programs compete with and often defeat NCAA or so-called varsity pograms.

More to come..."

[veronaD#02]

Congrats to Jaron for the 1000th post! Post-whoring at its finest, IMO.

[NDALAX]

i would just like to say laxjunkie quit twisting my words and telling other people (you know who) that i'm saying stuff i actually dont. its getting me in trouble and i dont appreciate it.

[middleton23]

storts how did your game go in Mich

[cherusci22]

do any of you guys know how experienced the Great Lakes Lax conference is in general. That is to say, is it pretty much the equivilent to the wisconsin highschool program. i guess it depends on the school as well, but just curious.

[Eclipse]

UW Madison is basically the only good team. They are actually damn good too. Thats pretty much it though.

http://www.laxpower.com/update05/other/rating09.php

[veronaD#02]

storts how did your game go in Mich


I don't play vs. Calvin until friday night. Saturday will be fun: 3 games...we play UW-Oshkosh, Ferris State, and St. Thomas.

I should say, the GLLC has been improving. Whitewater this year (they've got some old verona kids) would be approx. as good as West was last season. UW-Mad is really good, UW-Milw is much worse, although they've got alot of verona talent (but a middle school-esque defense). UW-La Crosse is decent, I dunno too much about the others. To be honest, the GLLC has it pretty good. Drives aren't too long, costs are low, and you'll still play in some good tournaments with some good teams; I know earlier in the year UW-Madison hosted a tourney with Minnesota State Mankato, UW-Milw, UW-Whitewater, Purdue, Illinois State, Bowling Green, and a Minn. Men's team that featured Kevin Leveille, among others.

[NDALAX]

for the seniors on this forum, where are you guys going to college? ( I assume you'll be playing lax wherever you go.)

[Eclipse]

Fontbonne (D3) for a year before, if all goes well, trasnferring to Denver (D1) Sophmore year. Unless of course i end up at Denver next year =)

[BadgerLax57]

After watching this thread grow and grow I finally decided it was time to say something now that the GLLC has been brought up.

I played for Waunakee last year and now I'm on the UW-Madison team (which plays in the GLLC). So far we've only played UW-Milwaukee and spanked them pretty hard but everyone on the team says that there really isn't a lot of competition for UW-Madison teams (A and B) to enjoy in this conference. Madison has mostly out of state guys on the team, with traditional east-coast guys, some LA area guys, then a bunch of Chicago players. Luckily this year we had a lot of talented WI guys join up including Jason and Pat from Middleton, LP and Brett and I think one other from Verona, and the Batterman twins from SP.

But in general, the other teams in the GLLC seem to be a least a little above the high school level, though I would say not by a large amount because for teams in a conference like the GLLC, partying take precedence over practice. Lots of WI and Minn natives who just want to have fun and not worry about practicing too hard. And like veronaD#02 said, its fairly cheap and you will have the opportunity to play lots of different teams. Not too bad if you just want to have fun making friends, having fun, and playing lax.

[middleton23]

UW-Milwaukee...maybe we'll be better than 14th place of 14 next year haha

[USMlax]

I'm playing at Kenyon College (DIII) next year...

[tdarcy]

Jaron: I had a nice talk with Coach King about you and some other kids while I was at the convention in Philly. Hope all goes well for you. Glad to see other kids posting about where they're headed. Right now, looks like we'll have kids headed to Ithaca (or Nazareth), maybe Bates and as bunch of kids will likely play "locally" (St John's in MN, UW etc). Best of luck to you all.
T. Darcy

[veronaD#02]

Jaron, have you met up with the new coach, Nick Silva, yet?? He was my counselor at the Notre Dame camp a few years back. Cocky, but plenty of skill to back it up.

[tdarcy]

Coach Silva, if I recall right, is a Manhattan College grad...only D1 program in the NYC area (Hofstra, Stony Brook are on LI). I've corresponded with him several times recently and I think Mike hit the nail on the head. he has good reputation among other college caoches I've dealt with too.
TD

[Eclipse]

Hes a great guy. Yes he is a manhattan Grad. He played high school ball here in St.Louis. Prior to taking the job at fontbonne he was a coach at top 15 USLIA school Lindenwood also here in St.Louis. He is mainly recruiting midwest...so if anyone is interested let me know. Ill get you contact info.

[tdarcy]

Jaron: Dropped Coach Silva a quick note about you earlier today...I lied and said you were a good kid, hard worker but most of all very shy (!)...all kidding aside, he's excited to have you as a prospect...I think you'll do well there. BTW, keep good thoughts for some of the WI kids who may want to come down and join you. Good luck with school and your lax season...take care
TD

[Eclipse]

Haha thanks alot coach

[NDALAX]

just a quick question for anyone who knows, but do any of you guys know how good or not good UWSP is in relevance to the other USLIA schools?

[Eclipse]

Not really good. Not bad .

[Butters14]

So, thoughts on the upcoming season... Who is going to win state? Supposively with this transfer from Boys Latin, the picture has entirely changed. Will it be West? How about Middleton? Maybe even Marquette pulling an upset? Also what's your top ten for the upcoming season?

[veronaD#02]

Those three, rounded out with SP, Waunakee, Appleton, Wausau. That adds up to ten, doesn't it?

[Butters14]

I don't think you can have Waunakee in there, they lost too much. No Indy, no Gage, no #4 kid who had to have an illegal stick. Who else did they have?

[Coach_Goldberg]

Well, from what I have seen of the indoor play so far, I know that all the teams: West, Waunakee, Verona, Sun Prairie, Stoughton-Oregon, and Middleton have some players that can score. Each of these indoor teams has also beaten Middleton, which many would say might be the favorite to win. Granted, the indoor game is a completely different beast than the outdoor game( the indoor game is basically a 40 minute shooting practice). I would say that West so far is looking pretty good. Waunakee and Sun Prairie are also pretty good. I have no way of judging the out of area Milwaukee or Green Bay teams so I will only rank the Madison Area Lacrosse League. If there was a tournament to be played this weekend, I think it would come down to these rankings: 1) West 2) Middleton 3) Waunakee 4) Verona 5) Sun Prairie 6) Memorial 7) Oregon/Stoughton 8) LaFollette

I think that is the league...

[Butters14]

Coach Goldberg, just curious but who do you coach?

[Coach_Goldberg]

You probably won't like me when I tell you butters, but I coach Middleton. I am probably going to be committed to coaching the JV this year b/c my little brother will be playing.

[Butters14]

Haha it's alright, I may have had quarrels last season but this year I'm far more laid back.

[Coach_Goldberg]

Cool. How much of your team has been dedicated to playing indoor? We're missing alot of players and I wish more would show up. Have you had that prob?

[Butters14]

We have a core group of kids who have been dedicated, a lot of people from our lacrosse team snowboard or ski, and say they dont have time to play indoor. Not as many as I'd like to see come out, but we also don't have the numbers we had last year losing as many seniors as we did.

[Coach_Goldberg]

Has your team scheduled any out-of-state tournaments to play before the season starts. I think there is an IL one. Minnesota too. Playing different competetive leveled teams, especially before season, is probably the best way to get warmed up. Practice can only do so much.

[Butters14]

I believe so, but don't hold me to it. I had heard from coach king, prior to his leaving for Denver, that we would be going to the same one we went to last year. But as he is gone, I'm not entirely sure.

[USMlax]

Right now, looks like we'll have kids headed to Ithaca (or Nazareth), maybe Bates...
T. Darcy

Which kids do you speak of? When I met with coaches at Dickinson this summer, they mentioned Urso as a great WI prospect they saw at a camp... Whoever it is, the schools listed a very impressive top DIII contenders!

[Butters14]

He probably means Boyd and Neuman. Boyd told me he was going to go to Bates, and Neuman is capable of Ithaca or Nazareth if he sets his mind to it.

[USMlax]

Ithaca and Naz are really sick nasty! Many of their recruits are choosing between those schools and other DI programs. Even fringe Top 25 teams like Kenyon College have guys who where recruited by DI programs, but opt for smaller classes and better academics. If either of those two play at the aforementioned schools, that's huge for WI lax. Any Madison guys get contacted/recruited by Whittier? If so, when... because I recently got another phone call from the coaches after my Early Decision Admission at Kenyon, and I thought it was really late in the recruiting process to still be pursuing players.

[Butters14]

No I haven't heard anything, I'm still getting a lot of stuff from St Johns (MN), I don't know why because I told the coach I wouldn't be going there and they're club so I dont understand why they'd pursue so much. BTW usmlax, were you at the USM hockey game tonight vs Janesville, if so what happened with Janesville? I'd always known they werent a top ten caliber team, and thought that last year was purely a hot streak, but 9-2?

[Marquette#2]

I think right now State is a three horse race between the three teams butters listed. Marquette, Middleton, and West. It's a long season and I like our chances, but I don't want to throw out any guarantees.

My Top Ten:

1. West: This is contingent on the Boys Latin kid coming through, and him being as good as everyone has said he is. Laxpower has seven kids from Boys Latin signed already (5 going D1) and he isn't one of them which makes me a little bit hesitant on his hype. Regardless I'm sure he'll be a quality players, and Boyd and Neuman are both very talented. West will definitely be loaded on the offensive end.

2: Marquette: We are only losing one player from our semi final loss squad from a year ago, and he was out for over half the season. A new coaching staff will bring change and hopefully great things as the program continues to get more and more defined. People have been working hard especially our three biggest additions: All State Free Safety, All Conference Linebacker, and a solid player from California. Competition against other Midwest Jesuit schools in Indianapolis should also well prepare the team.

3: Middleton: They have a quality squad, and the effort put in at the JV level should help develop the squad into another power this year. Urso is an athletic talent, and kneebone will anchor a solid defense. However I think people are underestimating some of their losses Jaron's ability to guide the offense and Trevor's physical presence aren't there anymore and others are going to have to step up. They'll run into West and only one of them is going to make it to State so that also hurts them.

4. Sun Prairie: A solid core of returning players and good season of Indoor earns them a number four ranking; however, they are still third in their conference, so it's hard to predict their first postseason birth.

5. Appleton: The quality of the BayVal conference it looks like they will be there in the end, and once you get there anything can happen. They are returning a ton of guys from last year, and experience playing Verona at their best is an advantage they have over the other teams in the BayVal.

6. Wausau: A tough, athletic program. I'm not sure who they're returning, but with such a large squad they should be able to reload without much trouble. They also have a large Booster Program behind them, and that has a bigger effect then most would like to admit to.

7. Milwaukee Eastside: The second program from MALL. They have a lot of returning players who have worked hard over the offseason. Midfield is definitely their strength with several quality athletic players. They also have an energetic, and active coach in Kevin Kane.

8. Verona: No, they will not be anywhere close to last year, but they are still an established program. Butters will need to step up and provide a good amount of leadership to coach his returning guys. Perhaps one of the biggest losses is at Coach. Coach King built that program, and was one of their strengths. Change is never easy.

9. Milwaukee Northshore: Advanced to the conference championship last year, and they were leading us for the majority of the first three quarters. They do lose their best player and a solid goalie, but they do have a good attackmen and a few solid middies. They will play closely with Northshore.

10. Bay Port: They played fair at the Gobbler Indoor tournament, and an active, knowledgeable coach that wants to get as much experience for her players cannot be underestimated. If they travel down to Madison and Milwaukee to get experience I can see them finishing third in the BayVal.


HM: Stoughton - Oregon (A solid indoor season can't be denied). USM (6 am practices and an experienced coach should add to their toughness) GBND (A program looking to get more top level experience, and they were competing for the BayVal's postseason birth late into last year).


It's hard to not put my team as the favorite, but the talent that West has compiled is hard to deny. Coach Darcy knows what he's doing and it looks to be the first year that Middleton/Verona don't dominate the Bulrush. I don't mind being an underdog, and I certainly don't mind number two.

[zack Attack 12]

^^^^^
All Conference Linebacker

YEAH WHAT HE SAID

[Eclipse]

Alright Panosian Im agreeing with you on everything but this:

3) Sun Prairie: From what I hear these kids are kicking some booty in indoor. They will be physical as always, and already have some kids signed for College.

4) Yes i am placing my old team behind SP. Heres why, Kneebone isnt playing, HUGE LOSS. The defense is going to be stacked. Grant and Gundy will run the show across the state...but younger goalie and a huge lack of midfield aside from Urso combined with an attack line of all Juniors are going to lead this team to its first miss of the state tournament in 3 years.

[Marquette#2]

That changes a lot, last I heard Kneebone was playing. With him out of the lineup and your suggestion I would agree with the switch. SP is a quality program. They beat us last year, we played bad but they still beat us. Who are they losing?

[Coach_Goldberg]

Jaron, I have to disagree with you about the loss of Kneebone. Luke has worked his butt off becoming a better goalie. He works out everyday after school, I know I see him in the weight room. He has improved immensely as a goalie, so while Kneebone's athletism will be missed, the goalie ability level should be the same, if not better.

[Butters14]

I'd have to disagree. Luke has improved vastly, and is a very solid goalie. (From what I've seen in indoor). But Luke isn't a threat to run the ball like Kneebone had the capability of doing. You also have to factor in the ability to major a Trevor-less defense. Without Trevor there will be more pressure on Luke to direct things, and you can't judge how he'll do with that pressure. I think Luke is a very solid goalie, but he has a lot to prove before it can be said he's better than Kneebone. All my opinion though, and I tried my best to not be bias.

[Coach_Goldberg]

I guess that is were practice is going to have to factor in :naughty:
But, when it comes to ball stopping ability, I think that Luke is great. The rest, running a defense and solidarity. That can only come from hard work in the season. So we shall see...

[BadgerLax57]

Ah Butters, thank you for the compliment regarding my stick skills.

On Waunakee's strength, too much of Waunakee's power last season rested on the seniors. Basically, the entire team's scoring relied on 2-3 seniors doing most of the work coupled with 2 and half very strong middie lines vanishing...the offensive side of the team will need to rebuild for sure. Only 2 non-starting defenders return, with about 4 juniors, 1 senior, and the rest freshman. These freshman do have a lot of talent though and they are already coming into their own. It may take a season, but they will be a force soon enough. Look out for a kid named Woock, he has lots of potential especially.

Though with Indy gone, things may turn interesting on that end of the field...especially with Gage/Hellenbrand (The big kid with no skills whatsoever)/Lawler gone from Defense.

I don't think you can have Waunakee in there, they lost too much. No Indy, no Gage, no #4 kid who had to have an illegal stick. Who else did they have?

[BadgerLax57]

Ok so obviously I don't know how to even post a reply. Sorry mods for cluttering this up..I don't know how to delete my own posts.

[USMlax]

No I haven't heard anything, I'm still getting a lot of stuff from St Johns (MN), I don't know why because I told the coach I wouldn't be going there and they're club so I dont understand why they'd pursue so much. BTW usmlax, were you at the USM hockey game tonight vs Janesville, if so what happened with Janesville? I'd always known they werent a top ten caliber team, and thought that last year was purely a hot streak, but 9-2?

Janesville was just flat and couldn't handle USM's potent first line. Cole Holmes, arguably the best player in the state, (not to mention the most modest and nicest guy) had 6 goals and 2 assists, and didn't play more than 2-3 shifts in the 3rd period. Yeah, J-Ville is REALLY overrated, especially Olzewski...

Butters, do you still play hockey for Verona? I know after 2 years on varsity at USM, I got really burned out and wanted to avert my attention to becoming a top-notch ringer on a beer-league team (8-10 pts a night)...

[Butters14]

Yeah I still play for Verona. We're havin a rough season after losing 13 seniors, one of the better players in the state (Drew Hackbarth) was suspended for 80% of the season for a drinking ticket, and no one understands our coaches. Although with Drew back now, and playoffs coming up we might be able to pull an upset over a Janesville. If you get a quick goal or two on Janesvilles goalie he'll be trash the rest of the night and they're nothing without him on his game.

[middleton23]

yeah butters you guys have a chance at jville...they kinda blow....

on another note, marquette finishing SECOND????? maybe in the state bracket but not best team wise...SP has mayville, basically the same person pano is but with a left hand and not as athletic, that will cancel that out, and just because you get new kids to sign up doesnt mean they are going to be good lacrosse players, it takes at least a year to develop the stick skils you need

[Coach_Goldberg]

Are there any new teams being formed in the Green Bay or Milwaukee conferences? Stoughton was supposed to add a new team to MALA but the merger with Oregon keeps the League at the same number it was. We need varsity teams in the state to make it a varsity sport. This probably won't happen for a few more years, but I would just like to see that there are new teams being formed to get there.

[tdarcy]

Coach: Sauk Prairie has a new JV team and will probably have a varsity squad next year. It's only a matter of time before Edgewood and West finally split...probably in a year or two. I heard Milwaukee is up to 8 teams now. Wausau has a team and I think there are one or two new teams up by GB. I think it'll be awhile before we get even close to WIAA sanctioning. If the girls game grows simultaneously that will only help get the sport "recognized" at the state level...still a ways off I think. I do think having the sport in the Summer Badger State games will be huge and from what I hear at least 8 teams are signed up now...prbably more to come.
Tom Darcy
Regents Lax

[Butters14]

Lacrosse is in the Summer Badger State Games now? That's pretty sweet. I hope Verona has signed up to be in it because I think that would be a lot of fun.

[tdarcy]

Nate:
Hopefully, yes. MALA is working the details with the Badger Sate Games folks now...should be in late June...after Brewtown. Hope things are well with you over there in V-town.
TDarcy

[NDALAX]

i think up here (GB) we are getting one more team added for sure, but dont take my word for it, but i doubt we'll get two teams this year, but i know a couple of areas that have some programs started.

[Eclipse]

If anyone wants to come to St.Louis this year to face some damn good teams (Lafayette, MICDS, Desmett, CBC) let me know..im sure we can get the hookup. Talk to your coaches...and coach Darcy, i think this would be your best year to take west on the Road...plans?

[middleton23]

we better get to play in the b.s.games