You want lower gas prices?

[anjang86]

email I got... I say it's worth a shot?

We are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon gas by the

>> summer, and it might go even higher!!
>>
>> Do you want gasoline prices to come down? Then you,
>> me, and all of us need to take some intelligent,
>> united ACTION.
>>
>> Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea: This makes
>> MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain
>> day" campaign that was going around last April or May!
>> The oil companies just laughed at that because they
>> knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by
>> refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience
>> to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever
>> thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
>> really work.
>>
>> Please read it and join with me.
>>
>> By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at
>> about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too. It is currently
>> $2.15 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the
>> oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us
>> to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at
>> $1.50-$1.75, we need to take aggressive action to
>> teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace... not
>> sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each
>> day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we
>> are going to see the price of gas come down is if we
>> hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their
>> gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.
>>
>> How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop
>> buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if
>> we all act together to force a price war.
>>
>> Here's the idea:
>>
>> For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline
>> from the two biggest companies (which now are one),
>> EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they
>> will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they
>> reduce their prices, the other companies will have to
>> follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach
>> literally millions of Exxon and Mobi l gas buyers. It's
>> really simple to do. Now, don't wimp out on me at this
>> point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it
>> is to reach millions of people!
>>
>> I am sending this note to about two hundred and thirty
>> people. But if each of you send it to only ten more
>> (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least
>> ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)... and so on, by the time
>> the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we
>> will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers.
>>
>> If those three million get excited and pass this on to
>> ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
>> been contacted! If it goes one level further, you
>> guessed it... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
>>
>> Again, all YOU have to do is send this to 10 people.
>> That's all.
>>
>> How long will it take to reach THREE HUNDRED MILLION
>> PEOPLE? Well, if each of us sends this e-mail out to
>> ten more people within 24 hours of receipt, all 300
>> MILLION people will be contacted within the next 8
>> days!!!
>>
>> Now I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much
>> potential, did you? Acting together we can make a
>> difference.
>>
>> If this makes sense to you (and it sure does to me),
>> please pass this message on. It certainly makes much
>> more sense than just complaining about it and feeling
>> powerless, that's for sure.
>>
>> Then just continue the boycott against Mobil and Exxon
>> until gas prices lower to the $1.30 (or lower) range.
>> This really can work, if only Americans will get
>> involved. Won't you?
>>
>> =====
>>
>> SIMPLE TAKE ACTION REVIEW:
>>
>> 1. Do NOT buy gas from Mobil or Exxon.
>> 2. Send this to everyone on your list who buys gas.
>> 3. Encourage them to do the same.


>>
>> What? You're still reading this? Stop. Send this
>> email to your list right now.
>>
>> And remember: NO Mobil, and NO Exxon.
>>
>> You can do this.
>>
>> =====
>>
>> Still don't think this will work? Then just imagine
>> if no one bought from EXXON and MOBIL for just one
>> month, or even just one week! Get the picture. This
>> can work, and it will work, if we Americans will work
>> it.
>>
>> So do your part. Do it now. Then boycott EXXON and MOBIL.

[Mavido]

My family has goten nearly all out gass from the same place for nearly 8 years. and its a much smaller company the Mobil and Exxon.. just lettin you know..

And i just put that on my teams Forum.. so about 50+ people should see it in the next day or so...

[Longest]

Here's a better idea. Tell people to buy alternative fuel cars. Tell people to call auto makers and encourage, insist, nag, and order automakers to do so. Buy stock in one of the companies, go to a board meeting, and make a stink about alternative fuels. As soon as automakers are convinced people will buy alternative fuel cars en masse, they will churn them out as such. Do you wonder why every company now has SUVs of every size (small, mid, large)? Because 7 years ago, people started buying them in huge numbers. You will see the same in any type of vehicle if the demand skyrockets. Demand alternative fuel cars.

Btw, does the writer of the email not know that Exxon Mobil is one company now? I'm somewhat unconfident about his campaign if he has not grasped that simple business fact. Not to mention around here, those stations have the highest prices and I like to view myself as a competitive shopper, I buy the cheapest gas I can find.

Regards
Dan

[roughrider]

It is amazing that gas is still as cheap as it is. A finite quanity that is increasing in demand, yet decreasing in quantity. I fully agree with Longest (strangly enough). Also sick of gas prices-ride a bike, I know I am going to this summer

[stegmakk]

I too agree with Longest on this subject.
Don't buy from Exxon Mobil because of pricing sounds like a good ploy by a competing gas company.

[anjang86]

Btw, does the writer of the email not know that Exxon Mobil is one company now? I'm somewhat unconfident about his campaign if he has not grasped that simple business fact.

Does the writer of the above not read when it says

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline
from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL.

:chuckle:


I think the writer just wants us to know that we sholdn't buy from a gas station that says Exxon or Mobil.

[anjang86]

Well since everybody agrees with longest then I do too. I know my parents are buying a hybrid SUV (evne though I dont like the idea) so I think give it a few years and the hybrid will be in.

[Longest]

Does the writer of the above not read when it says



:chuckle:


I think the writer just wants us to know that we sholdn't buy from a gas station that says Exxon or Mobil.

Due to the weird spacing and formatting, I missed that paranthetical. My point remains: why even mention them as 2 separate companies since they're now 1? My only guess is, this idea was generated a long time ago when they were 2, became 1, and the propagandist did not want to revise the entire email. Whoever said it sounds like a ploy by a competing company, I second that.

Dan

[anjang86]

The idea seems good but the email is a dud

http://www.dcmsoft.com/rumor/story/gasprices.htm

[hbmedic]

Noone is going to buy alternative fuel, hybrid, or electric cars.. they're not as efficient nor can the reach the speeds or accellerate as fast as gasoline powered vehicles.. Thats why all of the hybrid or alternative fuel vehicles are so small (except buses which are lined with canisters throughout the ceiling of the vehicle), alternative fuels have no power..

Secondly, the sellers control the market in relation to commodities.. Gasoline, Fuel, is a commodity.. but for some reason we don't treat it as such.. The only answer to fuel costs is regulation. People need fuel to survive.. Period.. there is no way to just stop buying it.. Just like electricity, or water.. You have to have it.. You have to buy it.. Period.. Therefore, the consumer does not control the market.. Electricity, Water, and Gasoline have to be Regulated.. Bush doesn't address gasoline costs at all.. Wonder why?! I don't.. Not to mention our military is spread throughout the world more than ever at this point.. DO you know how far a tank will go on a gallon of gas?! about 500 yards.. It took 1300 gallons of gasoline for One tank to travel from Kuwait to Baghdad.. Each tank holds 55 gallons of gas per fillup..

Demand for gas is up, oil prices per barrell are going down, yet gas prices at the pump are still going up.. They are gouging and ripping us off and noone is doing anything about it.. How long do you think the economy will be okay if this continues?! I guess merchandise and groceries just magically appears in the stores?! This is ridiculous and its your fault.. I didn't vote for that crook Bush with his family history in the oil business.. Do you think he doesn't have any friends in the oil business being from Texas?! If you do your an idiot.. Thats why he doesn't address the issue at all.. and didn't during his first presidency.. but all anyone thought about during the election was the threat of terrorism.. What a joke.. So suck it up, its your fault..

hbm

[anjang86]

who's fault? My fault?

[hbmedic]

Its everyone's fault that voted for Bush.. All of the guillable, afraid, bible belt, hicks in this country.. Which unfortunately outnumber at this point, intelligent city dwelling people who support this country.. If you look at the election, all of the Major Cities, Washington D.C., New York, Cincinnati, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and others All voted against Bush.. Its the uneducated Country Folk from Virginia to Nevada and North to Montana & Idaho that sit around reading the bible and still believing it, that voted for Bush.. People that actually believe that taking our soldiers to the terrorists so they can have something local to blow up is what is keeping them from coming here.. 9/11 was caused by Security and Intelligence issues.. Fix those and the terrorist threat to the US is gone.. Not to mention Saddam wasn't a terrorist or a threat to the US, but thats another topic.. All we are doing is providing local targets for terrorists.. We will never get rid of terrorism.. Look at Israel.. They actually have balls when dealing with terrorists.. They don't try to decide who is a terrorist and who isn't like we're doing in Iraq.. They kill everybody, and they still haven't been able to prevent it.. You cannot prevent terrorism.. All you can do is try to defend yourself from it as best as possible.. Until Terrorists form an organized government and organized Army with nice little uniforms, you will not be able to stop it.. Why are people so stupid?! hbm

[hbmedic]

I'm sorry I got a little off topic, but I feel its related due to the demand of the military for fuel and Bush's connection to the oil industry and Texas.. hbm

[TheKOB]

You don't like it, feel free to move.

I wonder if Europe blames their higher oil prices on their leaders. If someone has ties to the oil industry, that means they like it when gas prices go up? Gore had ties to the oil industry as well.....so we'd be in the same boat.

There seems to be a lot of spaces in between your "Bush from Texas THEREFORE oil prices skyrocket" logic. At least he's not from Alaska or middle eastern, than we'd really be in trouble huh?

[hbmedic]

Whatever Kob.. I actually have money to spend.. Gas prices aren't bothering me.. I saw you tried to bid on that Hopkins jersey on e-bay but didn't have the money to win it when it only went for $160 bucks.. I bought the Hopkins helmet.. Bush has you believing everything.. I served in this nations military twice, so I believe actually You should be the one that moves out.. I earned my place here.. I served Active Duty Army and I'm still in the National Guard as an Intelligence Analyst and Logistics expert.. So obviously you know more about the military than I do.. Bush even has you brainwashed into believing we need Mexicans to do the jobs American Citizens won't when in all actuallity all he is doing is keeping Big Business from having to raise wages to pay people to do that Crap jobs so they can do them and still support their families.. But you just keep believing, at least he can't get re-elected..

Also Kob, you know I am not a Democrat.. I didn't like Gore, and I didn't like Kerry.. But either of them would've been better than Bush.. He's a Fanatic, and he doesn't care at all what the people of this country want or care about.. He has his views and his beliefs and he thinks that since he was elected and now re-elected its a license to do whatever he wants.. Especially with Congress held by Republicans as well.. Just because you are elected President does NOT mean that the people of this country agree with EVERYTHING you want to do.. You still have to pay attention to public opinion somewhat throughout your presidency.. He does not do that at all.. I would bet that if you went through everything Bush believes in you wouldn't compeletely agree with everything, you voted for the candidate that met your beliefs on Most of the things you wanted.. But Bush thinks everyone agrees with him on everything since they voted for him, and thats not how it works.. Either that or he just doesn't care.. :ahhno: hbm

[stegmakk]

HBM...I agree with your off topic Bush stuff...but on topic I would have to argue about alternative fuels being viable...
In Iceland/Greenland (cant remember which), they have rolled out an extensive hydrogen car program (or so I have seen on PBS)...
the biggest obstacle in the US is the infastructure...Think about how many gas stations you see on every corner...ALL of these would need to be refurbished with alternative fuel sources...of course there will still be gas cars on teh roads at the same time so gas stations will have to have both...not to mention there is no exact deciive direction as far as what alternative fuel is the way to go...hydrogen, electric, a mixture of the two, or a mixture of any above with gasoline...

[Thrillhouse]

Whatever Kob.. I actually have money to spend.. Gas prices aren't bothering me.. I saw you tried to bid on that Hopkins jersey on e-bay but didn't have the money to win it when it only went for $160 bucks.. I bought the Hopkins helmet..

Did you just discount his opinions because they didn't win an eBay auction that "only" went for $160?

Like school in summertime...

[hbmedic]

No, I discounted his opinion because he's an idiot that I always disagree with.. His views and opinions are always the exact opposite of mine, and all he ever has to say is that My theory or opinion doesn't "Hold Water" and other empty disagreements like that.. He never has any real evidence or examples of his opinions or ideas.. He's just a brainwashed fool.. Good enough?! hbm

[Thrillhouse]

Good enough?!

No. Explain why you have to bring up that someone didn't win an ebay auction and that you have so much money that don't have to worry about gas prices to prove your point?

This isn't the first time that he's pointed out some of the many holes in the rambling and incoherent arguments you put up here. And every time he does it, you attack him personally instead of defending your ideas.

[the wister]

Wow, someone has been watching a little too much fahrenheit 9/11. I'm not gonna argue politics with anybody, but lots of the things you said are ignorant stereotypes. From what you said, anybody that is Catholic/Christian/Anglican/Protestant or just in general believes that Jesus was the son of God voted for Bush. And while were at it, the Koran is more or less a bible, so all Muslims voted for Bush as well, according to you. So did everyone who never attended college, since all the 'intelligent' people clearly did not, right? Finally, if someone lives on a farm or in the suburbs, it's without a doubt that they supported Bush. I didn't have an opinion about the election, but I don't support people who like to lump everyone into set catagories. I like to do what they do for a minute and catagorize them as one of two things: uneducated or racist. As for gas, adjusted for inflation over the years, gas is the cheapest that it has ever been. And what's with judging someone because they didn't spend $160 bucks for a jersey. If that's nothing for you, why didn't you get it? I mean, come on, 160 bucks, that's how much my h1 eats up in gas after 4 days, nothin.

[hbmedic]

First of all its not a Category, its a generalization.. and ofcourse Everyone in that generalization didn't vote for Bush.. But enough did to win the election for Bush.. In Every Generalization there are going to be people who are extraordinary or exceptional, no matter what your talking about.. Bush is not a fanatical Muslim, he is a fanatical Christian married to a half Mexican.. So Muslims don't fit in this generalization either.. Typical well thought out argument of a Bush brainwashed person.. And another brainwashing technique is to adjust prices with comparisons to inflation and other BS.. If gas is so cheap then please make sure you tell the stores that when they raise their prices to maintain Profits.. And if gas is so cheap with regards to inflation then why are Gasoline Profits at the major oil companies at record levels as well?! Why is it that in the history of Fuel, when someone owned property oil was found on they were Automatically Rich beyond belief?! Because Oil companies have always Gouged and overpriced as well as Over Profited from Oil and Gasoline..

As for the Jersey, I didn't want the Hopkins Autographed Jersey, but believe me, If I did, I would've bought it.. It only went for $160.. I paid $150 for a MLL Long Island Lizards game jersey.. and I did want, and did buy the Hopkins Team autographed helmet which I paid $270 for, and bid up to $500 for.. I was simply saying that if he is so happy with gas prices and President Bush, then why isn't he rolling in dough buying up whatever he wants?! I am, but I'm not happy with Bush, I think he's a crook that is ruining this country.. Unfortunately we never see the results of a presidency until its well in the books.. Except when it involves adultry then its a tragedy and the president should be impeached.. Who cares.. Clinton got a bunch of our guys killed in Somalia and everyone wanted his a$$ but Bush is going on 2000 killed in Iraq for false intel and made up lies and he's re-elected.. What a mess. hbm

[oslax19]

wow, stop your stupid rants no one gives a sh** what you have to say. we understand that its that time of the month for ya. but just because your PMSing doesnt mean you have to take it out on the world. and for the record kerry wouldn't of done any productive for the country. so go cry. ok?

[hbmedic]

Typical idiot.. No answers, No significant evidence or facts to back up your point of view.. Just ridiculous insults.. If you had read anything but the last reply Mr. Short Attention Span-No Intelligence, you would've read that I don't Like Kerry.. Nor did I like Gore.. I don't need to go and Cry.. I wish you weren't such a internet toughguy and you had to say this stuff to my face, then we would really see who needed to go and cry, after you woke up and picked yourself up off the ground.. If you noticed above more people agree with me than disagree, so actually some people do care about my Stupid Rants that actually present evidence and examples rather than just empty insults because in reality you feel ignorant and have no real argument.. I can't help that, and I am not the reason you don't have the intelligence to analyze and present a valid argument.. And you have no idea what Kerry would've done.. Maybe since your so for Bush you should enlist and go to Iraq and get killed for the false intelligence, and false connection to Al Queda, and False Reports of WMD's.. ?! Rather than sit there in front of your computer and criticize while others serve in the military and actually face the terrorists and militants in Iraq because George Bush says they have to.. If your so Gung ho, enlist, put on a uniform, and stand in front of the enemy on their land while they defend Their country.. Nah', your too much of an internet toughguy to put yourself out there like that aren't you?! Wussy little girl.. Go away, your nothing to me, and your nothing on the lacrosse field.. You have to have intelligence to play lacrosse.. hbm

[hbmedic]

Jeez, can someone please stop these ignorant kids from replying.. Noone is what you are.. Noone is buying the hybrid cars, that is why Honda is cancelling and destroying them.. If you had watched the news lately you would see that there are protesters standing in front of Honda lots because Honda is abandoning the hybrid/electric car line because noone is buying it.. Evidence.. bye bye..
hbm

[enjoi]

Political rant
ROFLMFAO.
You don't like it, feel free to move.
Worst arguement ever. There is not a big enough roll-eyes smilie for me to use that would properly convey my feelings.

[swordsman]

Its everyone's fault that voted for Bush.. All of the guillable, afraid, bible belt, hicks in this country.. Which unfortunately outnumber at this point, intelligent city dwelling people who support this country.. If you look at the election, all of the Major Cities, Washington D.C., New York, Cincinnati, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and others All voted against Bush.. Its the uneducated Country Folk from Virginia to Nevada and North to Montana & Idaho that sit around reading the bible and still believing it, that voted for Bush.. People that actually believe that taking our soldiers to the terrorists so they can have something local to blow up is what is keeping them from coming here.. 9/11 was caused by Security and Intelligence issues.. Fix those and the terrorist threat to the US is gone.. Not to mention Saddam wasn't a terrorist or a threat to the US, but thats another topic.. All we are doing is providing local targets for terrorists.. We will never get rid of terrorism.. Look at Israel.. They actually have balls when dealing with terrorists.. They don't try to decide who is a terrorist and who isn't like we're doing in Iraq.. They kill everybody, and they still haven't been able to prevent it.. You cannot prevent terrorism.. All you can do is try to defend yourself from it as best as possible.. Until Terrorists form an organized government and organized Army with nice little uniforms, you will not be able to stop it.. Why are people so stupid?! hbmWhat!!
I am anti-Bush demorcrat from the NYC area and IBoth read and believe in the bible thank-you VERY much. And that's VERY radical. I don't like the war in Iraq but in Afghanistan. How does the FBI deal with the Mafia and such? Do mofiousos were uniforms. Terrorist are like gangs on steroids... more powerful and dangerous. I do think however that we need a team similar to the one in Tom Clancy's Rainbow 6 and hackers tracking terrorist movements over the internet. Terrorism can be stopped it will just take 40 or so years. :whyme: :bull:
Back on topic its simple go where its cheap to save $$$

[hbmedic]

I served in Afghanistan punk, and I served in the Philippines during the Marcos coup.. I have served my country, and stood a post Boy.. and I try not to insult people in this forum, but I can only take so much.. On this topic, You have no idea what your talking about.. Everyone knows Kerry was a very poor candidate.. So knowing that you can easily assume that Bush barely won the election against Himself.. Because Noone really voted for Kerry, they voted AGAINST Bush.. I criticized the Kob failing to purchase a Jersey he obviously wanted because he's always on here defending Bush's views and votes for Big Business and against the working people of this country, such as the votes against raising minimum wage earlier this year.. Maybe if he was against Bush he would have been paid better by whoever he works for, which I think is South Carolina University, and would've been able to buy what he wanted. You just don't know the story.. hbm

[Mavido]

reading the bible and still believing it, that voted for Bush..

I dont care much about the argument, but leave the damn bible out of it!

[oslax19]

i am actually lauging hysterically right now about everything hbmedic had to say, i really am laughing. first of all dont criticize me for not enlisting until you enlist yourself. and oh the best part i thought was when at the end you said something to the effect of

"Nah', your too much of an internet toughguy to put yourself out there like that aren't you?! Wussy little girl.. Go away, your nothing to me, and your nothing on the lacrosse field.. You have to have intelligence to play lacrosse.. hbm"

thats even funnier for you to assume your better than me on the field, and your insulting me for being an internet toughboy, but go read and everything you've said ever on this forum and i think the real internet toughboy is you, your all talk. oh and for the record john hopkins aint as good as you make them out to be. they;re only on the top because its a year where theres no competition in college lacrosse this season. this year is gonna end in dissappointment again for the JHU just like it has the past 3 years. so go cry somemore and buy some maxipads for your period.

[hbmedic]

The Bible and Bush's fanatical religious beliefs are the basis for his re-election.. The bible was a form of law based on morality and the threat of punishment for sins (crimes) in the afterlife.. When laws, police, and a judicial system were absent from Society.. Now that we have laws, police, and criminal punishment we don't need the bible any longer.. Show me one piece of physical evidence that anything in the bible actually occurred and I'll consider changing my beliefs.. There are none. But this is far off topic.. The bible is a story that was marketed as reality to provide people with hope and a fear of punishment if they committed crime.. No longer necessary and completely unfounded and ridiculous. If so many Miracles occurred back in the days of Christ, why don't they happen anymore?! Oh because he was the only son of Christ, and blah blah blah.. how convenient for religious zealouts.. Its not real.. hbm

[HdGLaxWarrior]

That could work. But in a way it couldnt.

Gas is running out- more demand. You cant lower the prices by just not buying gas from one company. It wont work.

We will run out of oil in my lifetime, and a lot of other peoples lifetime on here too.

[oslax19]

ok first of all, you are the most disrespectful person i have ever met. im gonna assume your a liberal. and last time i checked liberals were "open-minded" yet here you are blasting people about their religion and believing in the bible. and i personally take offense to that? have you ever read the bible? before you blast it read it with an open mind, than make up your mind. i dont care if you think differently im not gonna say your wrong. just stop being an arrogant ****y little ******* going around telling everyone that they are wrong stupid and complete idiots because they believe in something different than you. and where did that arguement come from. you just completly changed to subject blasting people for their religous beliefs. just think about that

[hbmedic]

See how everyone else has their location under their name?! Why don't you?! Because your hiding.. another illustration of your fear, and the fact that you hide.. People that hide have a pattern.. there are several examples in your posts but that is the most obvious..

And believe me, I am better than you on the lacrosse field.. When you make the team in D1 let me know, then maybe I'll concede.. Until then, yeah, I'm better than you are, in life, and on the field.. hbm

[oslax19]

oh and i just something else out, your right i actually am trembling, im so scared that your gonna come hunt me down and beat me up because i think differently than you. please dont hurt me hbmedic please dont hurt me. im so scared of you and your big "D1 lacrosse skills" lol this is classic

[enjoi]

Alright, everyone calm down.
[QUOTE=hbmedic]anti-bible rant[/b]
Hbm - Seriousley, you aren't discussing you end up flaming, and not only flaming me, but every person of a christian denomination.
OSlax - Don't instigate. Serious.