Is this my call?

[tjslax]

Yesterday, in my first real game, I was the trail (and off) official. My partner had the shooter, and I was watching the crease area. A shot was taken, the ball bounced and came up, apparently hitting the net inside the goal near the crossbar. My partner did not signal a goal, but i sure looked like it to me.
I did not call a goal as I was on the top corner of the box, not the endline and was unable to tell if the ball completely crossed the line or not.
It's a a tough call to go from the shooter to the goal as fast as the shot. Who makes that call? Is it still the lead official? He's the one on the line.

[Vector_Joe]

It is pretty much the lead ref's call. IMO, If he looks to you for help and you are SURE, then you can talk it over with him. Otherwise, it is up to him.

[michaeldwilson]

If you see the goal, I think you call the goal. The team deserves the point if they actually made it in the net.

Your angle is bad for seeing the ball cross the plane of the goal, but if you see the splash against the net (the lead ref may not have an angle for that), I would certainly make the case.

Mike

[Snake~eyes]

This is definitely the leads call but if you are 100% sure the ball went in the goal then run in and sell that call. Make you are are absolutely sure and do not guess.

[shrekjr]

My question is why are you watching the ball go into the goal instead of watching the shooter to make sure he doesn't get laid out after the shot?

I know, its hard to not watch the ball, especially just starting out.

[laxref39]

I think before any assertions are made we need to know where the shooter was and the circumstance in that regard!

[tjslax]

The shooter was near GLE on the goalies left side, I was watching off ball activity in the crease

[shrekjr]

I understand there are too many things for us to see everything. In my experience, the top 2 priorities on a shot are covering the goal line to see if the ball goes in, and covering the shooter to protect him. At that moment, everything else going on is minimal. That doesn't mean other things can't or won't happen, but I'm not looking for those things. I am looking to see if a goal was scored if I'm the lead or to protect the shooter if I'm the trail. That is sometimes very difficult when the lead is "ON" and the trail never sees the shot.

[CoachRob]

My question is why are you watching the ball go into the goal instead of watching the shooter to make sure he doesn't get laid out after the shot?

I know, its hard to not watch the ball, especially just starting out.

I agree. If you're the "off" official, and the shot was from far out, then you should really be watching the shooter to be sure he doesn't get leveled (and it would be tough to see the goal at the same time). But it is hard to do that when your instinct is to follow the ball.

But if you are SURE it had splash and bounced out, call it a goal. It's not a turf war between refs. The mechanics manual offers guidelines, and at times, they need to be altered.

[Snake~eyes]

I agree. If you're the "off" official, and the shot was from far out, then you should really be watching the shooter to be sure he doesn't get leveled (and it would be tough to see the goal at the same time). But it is hard to do that when your instinct is to follow the ball.

But if you are SURE it had splash and bounced out, call it a goal. It's not a turf war between refs. The mechanics manual offers guidelines, and at times, they need to be altered.
Everyone is speculating, for all we know the shot was by a player with no one around him. Am i suppose to continue to stare at him? I think not.

[tjslax]

Everyone is speculating, for all we know the shot was by a player with no one around him. Am i suppose to continue to stare at him? I think not.

The shooter was being closely guarded by a defender. My confusion is basically when the lead official is the on official, what should the trail/off official be watching. I was originally watching the crease and movement off the ball when the shot was taken. As soon as the shot was taken, what should I have turned my attention too?

[Snake~eyes]

The shooter was being closely guarded by a defender. My confusion is basically when the lead official is the on official, what should the trail/off official be watching. I was originally watching the crease and movement off the ball when the shot was taken. As soon as the shot was taken, what should I have turned my attention too?
The lead is goign to have to take the goal on a shot. The other official should watch the shooter to make sure no action happens, he should also close down once there is goal ot make sure action has fully stopped, this is atime where cheap shots, illegal bodychecks, taunting and that kind of stuff can happen. If they see we are around they will be less likely to try it.