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The Fatboy
05-15-2005, 07:38 PM
I was wondering what the difference in weight is between a mesh pocket and any traditional or custom pocket. I was wondering because I ordered a torque on a db803 with a custom pocket strung. I know the torque and 803 are supposed to be an incredibly light combo, but will some of the lightness be sacrificed by the custom pocket or will the difference be unnoticeable?

Thanks in advance!

Here is the pocket I am getting:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/crcowboyfan/CutterFront.jpg

Irish8027
05-15-2005, 07:44 PM
ive often wondered the same thing.....with that pocket it doesn't look like that would make much of a difference but thats just what it looks like. im not much on traditional though.

The Fatboy
05-16-2005, 05:49 AM
Thanks for the input, anyone else?

RockStar
05-16-2005, 06:08 AM
Dude: The difference between the heaviest pocket and the lightest is so insignificant that it's a non-issue.

beast416
05-16-2005, 02:06 PM
not really rock star have u ever played with mesh then with the same stick except pookie pocket? huge difference but here i dont think it will be too much of an issue becuz the head is already lighter then the shaft so at most it will even out

The Fatboy
05-16-2005, 05:45 PM
Well now I have mixed opinions here. Has anyone else played with a stick using a mesh pocket and that same stick using a custom pocket?

RockStar
05-17-2005, 06:13 AM
not really rock star have u ever played with mesh then with the same stick except pookie pocket? huge difference but here i dont think it will be too much of an issue becuz the head is already lighter then the shaft so at most it will even out

Whatever, it's a few strings.

If that affects your game, time to hit the weight room.

RYU
05-18-2005, 05:28 AM
not really rock star have u ever played with mesh then with the same stick except pookie pocket? huge difference...I have an Evo strung w/ a trad pita variation somewhat similar to the one pictured above. It uses more crosslace than a basic trad pocket and has three long hockey lace shooters + one nylon. I mention this, b/c although it doesn't use as much material as a RP, it does use significantly more string than basic 6D trad.

I also have a Nitrous w/ 6D mesh w/ one nylon shooter + two hockey laces. The Evo and Nitrous both weigh 5.2 oz unstrung. I weighed my strung heads on a digital scale accurate to +/- 2.0 grams. Here were the results.

The Evo w/ pita trad weighed 218 g. The Nitrous w/ wide mesh weighed 204 g. 14 g is nearly equal to 0.5 oz. Here are some other references to give you an idea of what 14 g equates to.

An empty 12 oz (volume not mass) soda can weighs 14 g.

A large paper clip weighs 1 g, so 14 g = 14 paper clips.

A US nickel weighs 5g, so three nickels would be 1 g over 14 g.

An NCAA regulation lax ball must weigh btwn 5 - 5.25 oz (142 - 149 g)

RockStar, go easy on the pups. I think a lot of these kids must struggle to lift 10 lbs above there heads, in which case 0.5 oz difference at the the end of their stick makes a "huge difference" for them.

RottingMind13
05-18-2005, 12:29 PM
RockStar, go easy on the pups. I think a lot of these kids must struggle to lift 10 lbs above there heads, in which case 0.5 oz difference at the the end of their stick makes a "huge difference" for them.

is that a bit of sarcasm ryu??? :agree: :agree: yea if ur pocket weight is screwin u up you gotta be like 2 weeks old or someone doesnt know how to string and did like 8 layers on top of each other

RockStar
05-18-2005, 12:39 PM
.....The Evo w/ pita trad weighed 218 g. The Nitrous w/ wide mesh weighed 204 g. 14 g is nearly equal to 0.5 oz. Here are some other references to give you an idea of what 14 g equates to.

An empty 12 oz (volume not mass) soda can weighs 14 g.

A large paper clip weighs 1 g, so 14 g = 14 paper clips.

A US nickel weighs 5g, so three nickels would be 1 g over 14 g.

An NCAA regulation lax ball must weigh btwn 5 - 5.25 oz (142 - 149 g)
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Nice work, this needs to be stickied!

That was always my point about the foolish quest for the lightest head.

-Almost always more weight in the shaft than head anyway. There's value in looking for the lightest shaft that is durable enough for the lacrosse you play. With heads, the difference between light and heavy almost never amounts to much more than an ounce. With heads, go for shape, durability, and stiffness, not weight.

-The weight of the combined head and shaft is INCREDIBLY HUGE compared to the weight of minor add-ons such as string and tape. Sure you could save weight by re-designing your pocket or tape job, but it's so little weight that it doesn't make any noticeable difference whatsoever. Tape as needed, string as you like, and forget about it.

-With a 5 oz ball in the pocket, the percent difference between the lightest head and the heaviest is even less significant!