(Tutorial) Regular Traditional.

[laxdevil666]

After seeing kryptic's great tutorial on a pita pocket, i am goign to attempt to guide you through making a basic traditional pocket. the amount of diamonds varries and it will be up to you. this one will be a six diamond pocket.

Materials:

1 unstrung head, i will be using a razer
2 18 inch sidewalls
1 long piece of cross lace, i use about 18 feet to be on the safe side
4 leathers
shooting strings(agian, your preferance)
Lighter
for cutting the leathers i have a pair of wire cutters but if you have something else, good.

Leathers:

stretch them out nicely so they dont get distorted when you break the pocket in.

This has been discussed many times but i will go over it for the sake of helping out.http://img222.echo.cx/img222/6052/lether9mk.th.jpg (http://img222.echo.cx/my.php?image=lether9mk.jpg)

Install all four leathers the same way.

For this type of pocket, instead of the knif and ball trick that kryptic intorduced us to while stringing a pita pocket, i use the following method.

for this you need some athetic or hockey tape, a spool of cross lace or sidewall, and you need to put a shaft into the head.
http://img222.echo.cx/img222/3236/trick6kv.th.jpg (http://img222.echo.cx/my.php?image=trick6kv.jpg)

this helps to form a pocket later on, and it also makes cutting the leathers a little easier

[laxdevil666]

Cross lace

this is not so hard as it looks but it can tire you out with repitition.

the basic traditional stitch looks like this(sorry for the bad res.)
http://img282.echo.cx/img282/2995/stitchsimple0012xr.th.jpg (http://img282.echo.cx/my.php?image=stitchsimple0012xr.jpg)

Now you have to do this all the way up, when you get to the top, put the string through the space between the leather ant the plastic and bring it to the other side.
http://img282.echo.cx/img282/117/crossover0016vu.th.jpg (http://img282.echo.cx/my.php?image=crossover0016vu.jpg)

now you need to back down the other side. you use the same stitch, but they have to inter lock.
http://img282.echo.cx/img282/3316/interlock2pi.th.jpg (http://img282.echo.cx/my.php?image=interlock2pi.jpg)

make sure to keep the spacing even, if its un even you pocket will be lop sided.

The next few pictures are just a guide for what it should look like as you go up and down.
http://img283.echo.cx/img283/7811/guide0012eg.th.jpg (http://img283.echo.cx/my.php?image=guide0012eg.jpg)

http://img283.echo.cx/img283/1593/guide0027su.th.jpg (http://img283.echo.cx/my.php?image=guide0027su.jpg)

http://img283.echo.cx/img283/5259/guide0037jw.th.jpg (http://img283.echo.cx/my.php?image=guide0037jw.jpg)

brong it back up the side and make sure you stay symetrical as to how you connect to the sidewall. when you get to the top, tie it off.

un-tape the leathers and put them through the holes on the bottom of the head.
if the pocket is too wight, losten the leathers and also run some of the cross lace back through the pocket to losten it up.

now all you need to do are the shooters.. which are pretty strait forward....

and now youve got a sick pocket...
http://img287.echo.cx/img287/470/finishedpocket0019up.th.jpg (http://img287.echo.cx/my.php?image=finishedpocket0019up.jpg)

http://img287.echo.cx/img287/4563/finishedpocket0026ke.th.jpg (http://img287.echo.cx/my.php?image=finishedpocket0026ke.jpg)

http://img287.echo.cx/img287/7971/finishedpocket0034tm.th.jpg (http://img287.echo.cx/my.php?image=finishedpocket0034tm.jpg)

[NY Lax 4]

great tutorial...nice work

[laxdevil666]

thanks, i know it's nto really as good as kryptics pita pocket tutorial, but i'll try and answer any questions you guys throw at me.

[Attack027]

ya that is good tutorial, Pocket looks good too

[Daplum92MTNlax]

looks sweet man keep it up

[LaxAttack2]

ahh niice tutorial man, i like seeing these niice detailed tutorials popping up

[TRELAX]

hey, is it possible to have a REALLY low deep pocket (as in down near the throat) with this pocket? i hate high pockets.

[kryptic]

haha, I guess I set the bar pretty high..

But, nice tutorial, looks good (except that one fuzzy pic)
anyways :thumbsup:

As for a deep low pocket, it is extremely hard to create that. I also don't like high pockets, so I'm constantly trying to keep mine low. I'm experimenting on using double knots (like in the RP) on a pita pocket so see if it will stay low..

[laxdevil666]

if you string more diamonds at the top and make the diamonds wider down low, you cna get a lower pocket, not super low, but it will be better.

[schratxs20]

nice job bro lets get a rocket pocket lol

[roswelllax85]

looks sweet man keep it up
defently(sp)

[O'Neill]

Hey good job on the tutorial! I was just wondering if there is a simple way to make the diamonds continue all the way down to the ballstop without there being a gap after the pocket has been broken in?

[LCNlaxman]

nice job bro lets get a rocket pocket lol


Dude, don't even joke about that. That is illegal to the law and you can be arrested/fined.

Great tutorial, BTW! Very informative.

[laxdevil666]

Hey good job on the tutorial! I was just wondering if there is a simple way to make the diamonds continue all the way down to the ballstop without there being a gap after the pocket has been broken in?

sorry i didnt do that, when i took the final pictures i hadnt pounded the pocket so the leathers didn stretch, but once the stretch fully, then you can pull it so the diamonds go to the throat of the stick...sorry for not mentioning that in the tutorial.

[RockStar]

Dude, don't even joke about that. That is illegal to the law and you can be arrested/fined.....

The only way they could probably prosecute/sue successfully is if you were selling the plans or selling the stringing service.

Even then, it's iffy. Don't know if you could actually successfully patent a system of tying string together. If so, You'd only be able to patent it on one specific head, all heads have different hole arrangements, and would probably require a separate patent.

Offering free instructions for a pocket that looks sort of like theirs could not likely get you into any trouble.

So, just change one of the knots slightly, call it the "Sprocket Pocket", and string it on a type of head that the RP people don't sell. If they send a cease and desist letter, send 'em one right back that says:

"Dear Sir:

In response to your letter dated XX/XX/20XX:

Go F yourself, and stop wasting my time

Cheerfully yours,

Your name and Signature"

[O'Neill]

no problem. thanks very much

[Jpettit25]

As long as you don't utilize the rock-it pocket tutorial to gain money, they could not touch you.

[laxdevil666]

The only way they could probably prosecute/sue successfully is if you were selling the plans or selling the stringing service.

Even then, it's iffy. Don't know if you could actually successfully patent a system of tying string together. If so, You'd only be able to patent it on one specific head, all heads have different hole arrangements, and would probably require a separate patent.

Offering free instructions for a pocket that looks sort of like theirs could not likely get you into any trouble.

So, just change one of the knots slightly, call it the "Sprocket Pocket", and string it on a type of head that the RP people don't sell. If they send a cease and desist letter, send 'em one right back that says:

"Dear Sir:

In response to your letter dated XX/XX/20XX:

Go F yourself, and stop wasting my time

Cheerfully yours,

Your name and Signature"

i think that we should just bag the whole idea of a RP tutorial since nobody including my self is willing to make one..not out of what is right and wrong, but it just takes too much time..

[Tman188]

When you take the leathers off the spool and into the holes ,do you pull the leathers tightly after you put them in, to make your pocket flat, then make a pocket?????? or do you put them in loosely so you already have a pocket????/

[laxdevil666]

you pull them so that ther is a pocket, but then once you pound it and play with it, you will periodicaly need to thghten them when they become illeagal..

[Tman188]

The spool thing is also so when you string it you can get the nylons further down so when your done there isn't as much empty leather at the bottom right????

[laxdevil666]

yup..it also makes it easier to cut the leathers and easier to line up where the diamonds go..

[regulate34]

preaty kewl i think we should have a tutorial comitetion hey thay would rock
hint hit to all you sweet stringers
i am working on one now doent know if i want it to a tutorial

[laxdevil666]

preaty kewl i think we should have a tutorial comitetion hey thay would rock
hint hit to all you sweet stringers
i am working on one now doent know if i want it to a tutorial

in light of that, i made a video tutorial of a doubble tripple threat pocket. it came out pretty well.. i still have to figure whats gonna go into the video, sound wise since my brothers got into a fight while i was making it and you can hear them yelling the usual f*** you, and the like.

[schratxs20]

i just strung up my trad looks sick...thanks for the tutorial

[laxdevil666]

no problem...i have a new one comming soon on a doubble diamond..its gonna be up on my website in a few weeks once i edit the clips and pics

[RottingMind13]

how wide should the diamonds be like inchwise, im having a hell of a time trying to string up my edge (practice stringing head) with the regular traddy. Any input would greatly appreciated from any of you knowledgeable folks

[FeelTheRain]

yo laxdevil, wats ur site address?

[RottingMind13]

not tryin ta make u guys mad for bumpin it so soon, but im tired of lookin at the edge, any help on the inchwise between diamonds from top to bottom cuz mine isnt coming out very well

[Garor]

How tight do you pull the sidewall during each diamond?

[zanderaruba]

the tutorial is great i am just wondering one thing... how do you connect the leathers at the top?

[nclax35]

thats a realy good poket i usualy just customize six and eight diamond but in want to leard traditional mesh

[Hemi LAX]

Nice tutorial il try it and give u pics later

[slinkyspine]

dont bring back old threads olease jsut make a thread with your trad in it or somethin

[laxmastr03]

very nice, im looking forward to that any other tutorials :thumbsup:

[pcgoalie17]

Great tut, I'm trying it on my goalie stick now

[laxpro]

good job! this should definetly be put in the Tutorial List :clap:

[crusaderslax09]

good job! this should definetly be put in the Tutorial List :clap:

It already is, its the second link.

[laxpro]

It already is, its the second link.
alrighty then, I stand corrected,
I guess I didn't realize how old this thread was

[laxhardrock]

im gonna string this in my finalizer but wenever i do a trad pocket with 4 leathers my pocket gets messed up cause the outside leathers dont get broken in and they pinch in on the ball. how do i fix this?

[laxgoalieguy123]

i just buying the stuff for it, and i call it........the killer whale...o ya

o and can you if possible take another clearer pic of the stitch, that would be a big help

[riddlebox]

can you buy crosslace from jimalax when its not in a spool???

[Enjoi LAX]

can you buy crosslace from jimalax when its not in a spool???
Maybe you should ask this in your own thread or search. I think that would be better than bumping a really old thread.

[riddlebox]

hmmm bumbing an old thread eh?? it looks like the last post was about 3 days ago

[riddlebox]

do i put the crosslace through the bottom sidewall hole to start off with?

[laxgod1790]

do i put the crosslace through the bottom sidewall hole to start off with?

Yes you do.

[Jod91493]

HOW DO YOU ATTATCH THE LEATHERS AT THE TOP!! im a beginner, sorry

[Wubbie]

Wow... Look at some other thread, Kryptic's Pita Tutorial jumps into my head... It truly is an easy task, it runs on common sense...

Just like searching the boards does.

[bigpattyboy73]

HOW DO YOU ATTATCH THE LEATHERS AT THE TOP!! im a beginner, sorry


okay dude, you notice how one end of the leather has two slits in it right? one should be slightly below the other. let's call that the top of the leather. tak the other end of the leather, the bottom, and thread it through the bottow of the slits. pull it through. now thread the leather through the top slit. pull it through. done.

hope that helps.

[Meade Lacrosse]

well, you cut two slits at the top. They run down the leathrs, and one is at the very top, and the other is a bout half an inch or less beneath the top one. You take the very bottom of the leather (the one cut into a point) and stick it THROUGH the top slit, and back down/in to the bottom slit.

[livinglegend]

alright sorry to bumb this back up from i dont know how long. but you use one peace of string for the whole thing right? im just making sure because if so thats a ridiculous amount of string.
well im gonna try this out on my torque wish me luck

[runninandgunnin]

yeah you use one string.

[kingdawgell]

alright sorry to bumb this back up from i dont know how long. but you use one peace of string for the whole thing right? im just making sure because if so thats a ridiculous amount of string.
well im gonna try this out on my torque wish me luck
you can use one long peice, or five smaller peices, but the knots will get annoying and such.

[livinglegend]

grrr... okay one more thing you can use just normal sidewall string right cuz im not to sure what"crosslace" is

[abomb]

for xmas my uncle (who used to play) got me this old school excalibur, like the original one, and its sort of strung with traditional, the leathers are in and the diamonds are installed but its not connected to the sidewall of the head, i tried to do it myself but i couldnt figure it out. the sidewall is has nylon strung through it already but i just dont know how to attach the leathers. i dont want to use nylon mesh because thats what all my other sticks are, i want to keep it traddy just to mess around with it. any help would be greately appreciated

[kingdawgell]

for xmas my uncle (who used to play) got me this old school excalibur, like the original one, and its sort of strung with traditional, the leathers are in and the diamonds are installed but its not connected to the sidewall of the head, i tried to do it myself but i couldnt figure it out. the sidewall is has nylon strung through it already but i just dont know how to attach the leathers. i dont want to use nylon mesh because thats what all my other sticks are, i want to keep it traddy just to mess around with it. any help would be greately appreciated
pictures would help a ton, I don't think anyone knows what you're talking about.

[laxdevil666]

for xmas my uncle (who used to play) got me this old school excalibur, like the original one, and its sort of strung with traditional, the leathers are in and the diamonds are installed but its not connected to the sidewall of the head, i tried to do it myself but i couldnt figure it out. the sidewall is has nylon strung through it already but i just dont know how to attach the leathers. i dont want to use nylon mesh because thats what all my other sticks are, i want to keep it traddy just to mess around with it. any help would be greately appreciated
If i understand it correctly, you are going to have a very difficult time attaching it to the side of the head. Also, for the one piece of string, i usualy use about 5-6 arm lengths. That leaves me with a bit extra, but i always leave a foot on each end after the know just incase i need adjustments.

[hustlenflo22]

great job on the tutorial, and i dont mean to be a pain about this kinda stuff, but im totally new to the idea of stringing and my first attempt failed--

i was wondering if anyone wouldnt mind putting some tutorials up of some basic skills with really clear pictures so that when it comes to the more difficult stuff there is a base level tutorial to refer to

thanks anyways

[macdaddylax4]

hey i noticed you had holes in 2 of the leathers at the bottom where you put the string threw i was wondering did you make those or did they come with them cuz im trin this and i just ordered all the stuff

[laxdevil666]

macdaddylax44, there aren't 2 holes in either of the leathers. I think I do see where it sorta looks like there could be, but I don't think I've ever had 2 holes at the bottom of the leather. Leathers do not come with precut holes at the bottom, at the top they almost always come with 2 pre-cut holes. At the bottom, when you need to cut the hole, what you need is a special type of clippers that have a 'hammer head' look to them. The cutting edges are perpendicular to the handles, where as a normal pair the cutting edge is on the same line.

PM me if you need any more help.