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After cruising the aisles of Lincoln Financial Field (a workout in itself) I finally tracked down LaxRef in his seat. No, not in a suite or Sky Box as we all thought, but in an ordinary seat. Of course I knew who it was immediately because of the piles of paperwork surrounding his area: still working on those Federation rules modifications. The person who sat next to him whispered to me, "Why does this guy mumbling to himself about simultaneous fouls and 72 rule differences and the ramifications of end caps?" I said he was having Forum Withdrawal. But it was great to meet our Guru/TaskMaster!
I looked for Coach Rob, but no luck. I think he was the sole voice that shouted "Great Call, Ref." above the boos whenever the replay of the foul flashed up the on the Jumbotron screen. If there ever is a technical device that puts the fear of the Lord into a ref it's that Huge Screen showing the world the validity of your call. I am very suprised one of the coaches didn't tell me I had blown it because he and everyone else had just seen it on the screen.
CoachRob
05-31-2005, 10:19 AM
Alas, I was unable to attend Monday's game. I left a voicemail on your hotel phone eme but I wasn't there Monday in case you called back. I had to return to Hershey early.
I did give a few "good calls" though. The best call of the weekend IMO was the disallowing of Virginia's goal after the attacker was illegally pushed into the crease and landed BEFORE it crossed the plane. Goal taken off, ball awarded to Virginia lateral to the goal. Little did we know then how crucial one goal would be vs. Duke in the semifinals (Duke won in OT). The fans around me were livid until I stood up an explained WHY it was no goal. That seemed to satisfy everyone. But there was a lot of hooting and hollering going on about that one for sure. They couldn't understand why the goal was taken off yet Virginia was awarded the ball anyway.
Snake~eyes
05-31-2005, 12:46 PM
I did give a few "good calls" though. The best call of the weekend IMO was the disallowing of Virginia's goal after the attacker was illegally pushed into the crease and landed BEFORE it crossed the plane. Goal taken off, ball awarded to Virginia lateral to the goal. Little did we know then how crucial one goal would be vs. Duke in the semifinals (Duke won in OT). The fans around me were livid until I stood up an explained WHY it was no goal. That seemed to satisfy everyone. But there was a lot of hooting and hollering going on about that one for sure. They couldn't understand why the goal was taken off yet Virginia was awarded the ball anyway.
Ehhh, that was a little screw up in my mind. Two things, first off we saw the Lead slip as he was coming in, the Center gives a goal signal with out confirming with the Lead. Big mistake, I would have looked down(held my laughter until after the play), and asked the official if he had a goal. Nothing looks worse than one official signaling goal, while another behind him is waving it off. Now it was a great call to wipe the goal off the board, the player was clearly in the crease before the ball entered. But was he pushed in the back? I didn't think so.
Just some observations that I made from the couch. Other than that I thought they did a good job of officiating the game.
LaxRef
05-31-2005, 12:53 PM
Ehhh, that was a little screw up in my mind. Two things, first off we saw the Lead slip as he was coming in, the Center gives a goal signal with out confirming with the Lead. Big mistake, I would have looked down(held my laughter until after the play), and asked the official if he had a goal. Nothing looks worse than one official signaling goal, while another behind him is waving it off. Now it was a great call to wipe the goal off the board, the player was clearly in the crease before the ball entered. But was he pushed in the back? I didn't think so.
Yeah, I didn't mention that, mostly because I thought in the grand scheme of things it wasn't the worst mistake since they corrected it right away, but it would have been better to confirm before signalling. The other error I saw was the lead and center both signalling a goal (and not in a situation where the lead didn't see it right away so the lead made the call); that's technically not supposed to happen, but again it's not a big deal.
tjslax
05-31-2005, 12:59 PM
No errors noted in eme's game though?...I'm sure it was a thing of beauty. Can anyone confirm what type of socks he was wearing?
CoachRob
05-31-2005, 01:02 PM
Very pretty ones that did not fall down once. He is a bit grayer in the hair since he starred in the famous video, but still a VERY attractive man. And quite a commanding presence on the field. (He was also quite gracious in signalling his inadevertent flag.) They even put his mug on the big screen! I grabbed my son and said "THAT'S EME SAM!!", and he knew him from the forum. Very exciting.
LaxRef
05-31-2005, 01:03 PM
No errors noted in eme's game though?...I'm sure it was a thing of beauty. Can anyone confirm what type of socks he was wearing?
I didn't make it to that game, but I heard he wore Argyle socks with black sandals, a black-and-white-striped mumu, and a propellor beanie.
CoachRob
05-31-2005, 01:05 PM
No errors noted in eme's game though?...I'm sure it was a thing of beauty. Can anyone confirm what type of socks he was wearing?
No, he did make on small one. See
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=20498
tjslax
05-31-2005, 01:09 PM
Just as I thought, he'll do anything to get out of the long black/whites we usually wear. On his home turf, in warm weather, he can often be found in ankle length white socks. (Actually, I'm just harassing him 'cause he gets some grief from the other refs in the area about it. As far as I'm concerned eme, short socks are the way to go). Our local assoc. permits them.
Snake~eyes
05-31-2005, 01:09 PM
Yeah, I didn't mention that, mostly because I thought in the grand scheme of things it wasn't the worst mistake since they corrected it right away, but it would have been better to confirm before signalling. The other error I saw was the lead and center both signalling a goal (and not in a situation where the lead didn't see it right away so the lead made the call); that's technically not supposed to happen, but again it's not a big deal.
I noticed the C signalling goal often, I just assumed it was some NCAA thing because I was taught the C only signals goal in special occasions.
LaxRef
05-31-2005, 04:15 PM
I noticed the C signalling goal often, I just assumed it was some NCAA thing because I was taught the C only signals goal in special occasions.
Like on holidays and on goals by Christmas? :chuckle:
Yup, I realized by the third quarter that the only way I was going to make the Big JUmboTron with full facial was an inadvertent flag.
Coach Kaley after play had been whistled dead and I awarded ball back to Limestone who had possession when the flag flew..."Eric, don't we get the ball? We had AP."
EME: "No, Coach, it's who had possession on an inadvertent flag or whistle."
Coach K: "Are you sure?"
EME: " Absolutely. I have had a lot of practice with this situation>"
Coach Kaley laughs and off we go....
CoachRob
05-31-2005, 09:40 PM
Exactly why we need them to accept our proposal:
RULE 7 SECTION 13 Inadvertent Flags and Whistles
At the time of an inadvertent flag, horn or whistle, whichever came first, play must be stopped immediately and:
(a)...a team with, or entitled to, possession shall restart play with possession.
(b)...if neither team has or is entitled to possession, the ball shall be awarded by the AP rule (unless the ball is in the crease, in which case it shall be awarded to the defense 20 yards lateral to the goal).
Play shall be restarted:
(a) ...if there was an inadvertent flag, at the spot the ball was when the flag was thrown. Play shall be restarted outside the attack area if the ball was inside the attack area.
(b) ...if there was an inadvertent whistle [or horn], where it was when the whistle [or horn] sounded. Play shall be restarted outside the attack area if the ball was inside the attack area.
LaxRef
05-31-2005, 10:07 PM
Exactly why we need them to accept our proposal:
Well, except that NCAA doesn't play by NFHS rules, but I think I'll suggest this rule to the NCAA as well.
laxref39
05-31-2005, 10:44 PM
Alas, I was unable to attend Monday's game. I left a voicemail on your hotel phone eme but I wasn't there Monday in case you called back. I had to return to Hershey early.
I did give a few "good calls" though. The best call of the weekend IMO was the disallowing of Virginia's goal after the attacker was illegally pushed into the crease and landed BEFORE it crossed the plane. Goal taken off, ball awarded to Virginia lateral to the goal. Little did we know then how crucial one goal would be vs. Duke in the semifinals (Duke won in OT). The fans around me were livid until I stood up an explained WHY it was no goal. That seemed to satisfy everyone. But there was a lot of hooting and hollering going on about that one for sure. They couldn't understand why the goal was taken off yet Virginia was awarded the ball anyway.
Actually, Duke crushed Md. and Hopkins won in ot! The lead had blown the whistle and was signaling in the crease and no goal as he ran in and fell, it seemed to be much later that the rabbit came in signaling goal which I don't think he should have and that might be the reason the lead gave a push. There was definetly no push!
CoachRob
05-31-2005, 11:27 PM
Actually, Duke crushed Md. and Hopkins won in OT! The lead had blown the whistle and was signaling in the crease and no goal as he ran in and fell, it seemed to be much later that the rabbit came in signaling goal which I don't think he should have and that might be the reason the lead gave a push. There was definetly no push!
Sorry, Duke was a typo. I meant JHU.
On the Jumbotron, it certainly LOOKED like a push. They replayed it twice and each time, when the VA player was reaching for the loose ball to push it in, it seemed the JHU player was leaning awfully hard on his back. Of course, that was only one angle, so it could have been clearer from a different angle on ESPN. If there was no push, then it was a costly error.