hackers

[Falcon_Lax6]

so yeah summer league started today and we were scrimmaging. the kid covering me would not stop hacking at me, just swinging his stick like a ****ing baseball bat. it started to get real annoying, and i was already tired, so i made a couple bad passes. so what do you guys normally do when someones all over your *** like that?

[laxliveit]

i run as fast as I can, and pass it off as quick as I can, and then when he gets used to me doing that I take it to the cage and keep in close to him so he can't extend his arms for the slash

[CoachK]

Well, I shouldn't say any of this, but you have a few options. If he's doing it because he's dumb, the above suggestion is great. I'd run doing zig zags, kind of split dodging (without switching hands) to get some space, and keep his feet moving. It's tougher to check while running. You can also check his hands. Most players are predominantly L or R. On D, he might not switch hands, and you could probably carry it to his off stick head side pretty easily without too many checks.

Alright, the part I shouldn't say; If he's doing it to hurt you, or just plain because he can and he's an ahole, there's really only one way he'll learn, pain. I've seen people take bad shots right into people's stomach, sometimes with a fake, but they make sure it hits the defender. There are lots of problems with this, a few are; 1, it could seriously injure him, 2, he may retaliate and you would have been happy with the slashes. I've even seen people shoot at defenders feet and calves, or follow through on a shot to hit the guy with their stick.

Slashing him back won't help, and isn't worth it. Playing him tough on D would be more effective. Especially if you stop him with body, and don't even play stick, over and over. I'd most likely run him into picks over and over, as hard and fast as I could. I've had coaches tell me if you're not cheating, you're not trying, but make sure he's trying. Run him into the ground, and make sure you use any force you can against him. Lift his hands, poke, poke, poke, body, poke, body, and then on O, run him hard into screens. Be a threat, score some goals. Good luck.

[lax4life6]

i usually take couple shots right near the kid like shoot right next to him so next time he's scared of getting hit and next time you can fake the shot then go right by him

[RockStar]

2 choices:

1- start a fight.

2-If you're in a league that suspends for fighting, Next time you get the ball near him, wind up and fire a shot right into his nuts.

(You'd be amazed how many guys are "too tough" or "too brave", or just too effing stupid to wear a cup.)

[shiftylax]

Shoot the ball at him/his head to get space. I know, I know, I'm an arse.

[franks2089]

Don't wind up to hard or you could possibly hurt them but just hit them in the stomach.

[When It Cuts]

Alright, the part I shouldn't say; If he's doing it to hurt you, or just plain because he can and he's an ahole, there's really only one way he'll learn, pain. I've seen people take bad shots right into people's stomach, sometimes with a fake, but they make sure it hits the defender. There are lots of problems with this, a few are; 1, it could seriously injure him, 2, he may retaliate and you would have been happy with the slashes. I've even seen people shoot at defenders feet and calves, or follow through on a shot to hit the guy with their stick.
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That’s the last thing you should do. Advice like this just gives the sport a bad name. One of my friends got a nice broken rib from some BS like that. If I said we aren’t out there to hurt each other I would be lying, its a part of the game. But we certainly are not out there to injure each other.

[freestylewalkin]

scariest thing on D is when u forget ur cup and a guy winds up for a shot right in front of u


dont try to aim for D its a cheap **** that isnt needed

[kryptic]

Theres was a kid in box lax that was doing the same thing to me..he was a short, fat kid...So I would let my hand get slashed all the time..I didnt hurt, I just wanted to see him get pissed.

So he's hackin at me again, so I'm getting pissed, what do I do? I ran him and pinned him to the back of the goal (the crease was funny).

Options that you can do...
1. If you are a better athlete, run him, run him into the ground...make him really tired, hen dodge against him.
2. If you are a better 1 on 1 player, dodge against him, toy with him, make him look bad.

Other options
3. When V-Cutting to get open, step on his feet with your cleats (they hate that),

[kryptic]

scariest thing on D is when u forget ur cup and a guy winds up for a shot right in front of u


dont try to aim for D its a cheap **** that isnt needed

Well, hacking at my arm for no reason, no attempt to get the ball, is cheap and not needed either..

[RockStar]

That’s the last thing you should do. Advice like this just gives the sport a bad name. One of my friends got a nice broken rib from some BS like that. If I said we aren’t out there to hurt each other I would be lying, its a part of the game. But we certainly are not out there to injure each other.

Anyone who hacks and chops incessantly and doesn't expect retribution and isn't tough enough to deal with retribution isn't cut out for our sport.

You want to hit me and play me tough when I have the ball, fine, that's part of the game.

You want to slash me and stick me incessantly when I'm nowhere near the ball, that's fine too, The difference in this case, is I'm going to make sure you get hurt at least as bad as I do!

[When It Cuts]

Anyone who hacks and chops incessantly and doesn't expect retribution and isn't tough enough to deal with retribution isn't cut out for our sport.

You want to hit me and play me tough when I have the ball, fine, that's part of the game.

You want to slash me and stick me incessantly when I'm nowhere near the ball, that's fine too, The difference in this case, is I'm going to make sure you get hurt at least as bad as I do!
You talk about retribution, and hurting your opponent as bad as he hurts you...none of this includes throwing a lacrosse ball 65 miles per hour or more at him. I have no problem with you slashing him for revenge, because whats the worst that can happen? Throwing a ball at him is much more serious in that it can cause serious damage, even death. It shows poor sportsmanship and isn't something I want potential newcomers to the sport being exposed to.

[RockStar]

........none of this includes throwing a lacrosse ball 65 miles per hour or more at him..... Throwing a ball at him is much more serious in that it can cause serious damage, even death. It shows poor sportsmanship and isn't something I want potential newcomers to the sport being exposed to.

It's hypothetical.

In Canada, I wouldn't shoot, I'd just pick a fight. No biggie, we both end up cooling off for 5 minutes. You guys get ejected and suspended for scrapping, so you have to look for other means to get retribution.

It's also hypothetical in the sense that if I was being chopped off-ball, I'd suck it up for a bit hoping the ref called the ******* and gave my side a man-up. If the hacking is being ignored, you take the law into your own hands.

[fallingupstairs]

if there not good and ther are small bulldodge them but that only works if your good at hitting

[busdriver44]

best bet is run him, after awhile hell just give up. It is so exhausting trying ur hardest the whole game(especially when u dont have the ball, cuz that means no breaks). If ur dead too, try subing out, if ur not at ur A game rest until u r. If ur at one of the leauges theres no subs, take a shot and barely hit him on ur follow through. Hell prob end up stepping away, givin u plenty of room. I wouldnt try hitting him though, cuz what happens if u aim for his helment and u hold on too long and u hit his neck? If he steals the ball from u hack him back.

[PilotShinjiIkar]

I have had guys who think their hard and shot at me after I play agressive on them because I know their slow and unagile. One guy aimed at my balls twice, both times he missed and hit me in the lower back cuz I turned at the last second. First time I took it and gritted my teeth, second time I tried to f****king spear him with my stick and he laughed cuz I missed and he thought hed taught me a lesson and then proceeded to try and walk all over me. I controlled myself and waited and didn't play agressive, he got close and then I slapped check the **** out of him in the balls right after I slash his ribs after getting him to lift his stick hand for a roll. He layed on the ground for a while, and I stood over him wanting to pummell him into the dirt. So if you want shoot at a D pole to scare him but if u hit him prepare for the consequances. I advise either using your athleticism to out do him, burn him, or get a friend a set him up for hit. I've seen a d pole get baited into trying to hit a guy and the dude rolled and the d pole flounders right into the dirt on all fours. Most pathetic thing I've seen.

[lax4life6]

Another thing that works is to leave yur guy open on the clear. as soon as the ball is in the air line him up and then when he gets the ball take him out

[NY Lax 4]

i had a retard that was guarding me the other day...i did a v-cut(cut in and back out quickly) got the ball...just put a move on him, he tripped me, instant 1 minute penalty...we get the ball back and i score on a power play

[Falcon_Lax6]

see i didnt want to retaliate though, because it was the kids first year and thats just how he plays defense i guess. ill make it a point to break his ankles tomorrow.

[shiftylax]

Hey, I'm not saying shoot the ball at a guy first. That's not right. But when a guy has 6 feet of metal and plastic and all you have is a little rubber ball as your only retaliation, then hey, what else are you going to do? I'm not a big guy 5' 7'' 175, and I get hit ALL the time. Trust me.

I got a bad bad concussion the other week because I lined up a 6'5'' guy who saw me coming and raised his stick to my chin to stop me. I shoot close/at the D-man to set up a face dodge and make the guy turn when he sees me wind up. Then all you have to do is walk past him and take your bunny shot...

[BioPro29]

just show that you are completely superior by burning him w/a simple move.

[FaCe-oFF-MIddiE]

i wound up and shot at a D and it stuck in his helmet, all the defenders got so scared that they basically stepped out of the way everytime i shot.

[Upintheclouds]

2-If you're in a league that suspends for fighting, Next time you get the ball near him, wind up and fire a shot right into his nuts.



That has to be one of the most messed up things ive heard, seeing as how you are a male you should realize how messed up that is to sit there and tell another guy to shoot at someone elses nuts

[RockStar]

That has to be one of the most messed up things ive heard, seeing as how you are a male you should realize how messed up that is to sit there and tell another guy to shoot at someone elses nuts

Said it many times:

Any d-man who is too brave/stupid to wear a cup deserves whatever happens!

As stated too, I'd only do that if picking a fight was not an option.

Bottom line: if you don't chop at me meaninglessly when I'm nowhere near the ball, and if the ref doesn't ignore the chops, you've got nothing to fear in terms of a retaliation.

[Upintheclouds]

wearing a cup has nothing to do with it. you of all people being a male should realize the damage that can be done from hitting a guy in the nuts, whether hes wearing a cup or not. ill admit that people that dont wear them deserves whatever happens but that doesnt make it right to purpously (spelling?) hit them there. And yes i realize that he may be chopping meaninglessly on your arm but that does no where near the damage that getting hit in the nuts does

[3rdPersonPlural]

As a ref, I'm dismayed that this is even a topic. I can only assume that you are being hacked on your stick and gloves, because otherwise we'll be tossing flags.

Rather than taking matters into your own hands, have your captain share the violator's number with the officials at an opportune time. Your captain should play to the ref's sense of importance and be careful not to leave the impression that he has been remiss. Captain says something like:

"I'm sure that it hasn't escaped your attention that #9 is being aggressive with his stick checks. I've warned my boys not to take matters into their own hands, but I thought you'd like to know that it's not unlikely that there'll be trouble if he keeps up the dirty stuff.'

Then walk off.

The ref will subconsciously click into his 'control the game for the sake of safety' mode and will watch #9 like a hawk, if only to catch a retaliatory countercheck. And he'll be curious as to what 'dirty stuff' your cap'n had assumed the ref was cognizent of.

Support this message with audio. And a little drama. Next time he thwacks you with a malicious disregard for the 'get stick' rule, holler. "OWW! At least aim for the stick, wouldja?" Be sure to address the slasher, not the ref.

If he comes down with a check on your shoulder drop like a sack of potatos. Be sure to fall on the ball so your Oscar doesn't cost a fast break, but only a truly addled ref would call you for withholding when you've been pounded into the turf with what could only be an illegal check. When the ref comes over to see how just a little tap could have floored you, mention that he must have got a nerve because your legs went numb for a second there. Refs don't like officiating a game that results in nerve damage, and they'll rethink the boundary between a marginally misguided stick check and a slash.

Use your head. Put your stickhead tight up near your helmet and do a few spin dodges or face dodges. It's easy to protect your head with your helmet from broad swings, and the clarion sound of stick on hat is sure to draw a flag. Even if he gets a little stick, too.

[RockStar]

....If he comes down with a check on your shoulder drop like a sack of potatos.......


You're telling me to dive?

Sorry, I don't play soccer.

[3rdPersonPlural]

You're telling me to dive?

Sorry, I don't play soccer.

RockStar, I was of the 'take matters into your own hands' school of thought when I played, but in the scenario given, where the officials are permitting dangerous checks, probably dismissing requests to watch a blatant infractor, and tempers are running high, I think that a mature player could be excused for calling attention to the unsafe environment in a dramatic (and therefore compelling) manner.

I understand that you are constitutionally disinclined to adopt that role for yourself, but surely you grasp that a dive is preferable to a donnybrook?

..and we're not talking BoxLax here. Envision a developmental league field game instead.

[lax4life56]

instead of blasting your d-man in the nuts, or possibly even putting him in the hospital, as an attackman ride his *** whenever the d trys to make a clear. i kno a lot of guys who play d and as much as they can dish out the pain they sometimes cant take it. so what i do is when he has the ball just throw body into him, and remember the bigger they are the HARDER THEY FALL!!

[lottaLaX]

Refs don't like officiating a game that results in nerve damage, and they'll rethink the boundary between a marginally misguided stick check and a slash.

Wouldn't they not let you play then?

[laxguy318]

2 choices:

1- start a fight.

2-If you're in a league that suspends for fighting, Next time you get the ball near him, wind up and fire a shot right into his nuts.

(You'd be amazed how many guys are "too tough" or "too brave", or just too effing stupid to wear a cup.)


hit him in the balls....your one sick ****er...faggot

[RockStar]

^^Congratulations, laxguy. That post was almost in English.

Faggot?

I guess you maybe wish I was one.I am pretty cute you know :crazy: .


Truthfully folks, I'm not a nut-shooter by nature.

I'd gladly start a fight instead if it wouldn't lead to a suspension. Like I said, I'll even suck up the first few slashes to try and draw a call.

The shot at the hacker is the only revenge thing I can figure out that will get the hacker off me, and won't get me a penalty while the hacker stays on the field.

[lax4life6]

You could always act like the kids slashes really really hurt. Usually when i get cheap shotted i scream at the ref to call something. Usually my language is more colorful though