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hey guys, my mom's friend just won her second 1 million dollar lottery prize and since i work for her and am a good worker, she said she'll back me up in opening a lacrosse store on-line. i need some help from you computer nerds, now. jk. how much would it cost open a store online at say a lacrosse digest quality format?also how would i go about getting a store? and who could i pay to build it for me?
btw here's the link for her amazing win-http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-a1_4luckyjun11,0,3188283.story
laxinatl
06-12-2005, 02:05 PM
geez... she has won 1 million dollars twice?
PompLax14
06-12-2005, 02:17 PM
It's all about advertising and presentation.
First, make your website amazing. As good as great atlantic. I'm turned off my lax digest everytime I go their because it is such a ****ty site. I think it's a scam even after all the good stuff I have heard about it because I say to myself what legit company would have such a ****ty website?
Second, advertise. Get the word out. Every single forum you can find, all your friends and teammates, etc...
geez... she has won 1 million dollars twice?
yep
extrawords
alright but i don't wanna spend that much money on the site but enough to make it do the same as lacrosse digest, although it is bad, i don't think it would be that bad for my first store, i could always improve if my store grows
lzlax09
06-12-2005, 03:08 PM
I don't think you know what your getting into here. You are going to need alot of inventory if you are looking to make a profit as well as advertising, shipping, budget etc. etc.
LeftySniper
06-12-2005, 03:11 PM
umm, how do you go about doing this? are you going to try and become a certified retailer?
lzlax09 i know you're only trying to help but please don't make posts like this saying i don't know what i'm getting here, i appriciate your concern but i'd rather fail trying my best then to not try at all
the only thing i'm unaware of is a website, i'm not that computer gifted so i just need help with that
umm, how do you go about doing this? are you going to try and become a certified retailer?
yes i will be getting certified through Warrior, STX, Brine, and Gait by DeBeer, i am also pondering going through mohawk and harrow
HdGLaxWarrior
06-12-2005, 03:17 PM
You will also need to get Warrior if you want to make more money.
You will also need to get Warrior if you want to make more money.
huh? i'd be getting certified through warrior,brine,stx and gait
HdGLaxWarrior
06-12-2005, 03:26 PM
My fault... I was skimming...
HdGLaxWarrior
06-12-2005, 03:30 PM
Tony, another good website to look off is www.qclax.com they have one of the lowest prices, and the shipping is fast.
yea, i'd be happy with anything like that, as long as i can post pics of products and have a shopping cart and such, i'm happy
Laxitivepro
06-12-2005, 03:35 PM
Make sure you use as many brands of equipement as you can. Check out all of the other successful websites and see how much inventory they have of each product. Another thing is: give people the option of using UPS or US Postal. Postal is cheaper and a lot of the time it is faster!!!
i may go with usps but i think i'm locked on ups although it's a bit more expensive, they give detailed tracking on every package, so showing this to customers gains their trust, especially when i'm just starting out,
sd please don't clog up my thread
Laxitivepro
06-12-2005, 03:41 PM
Yah UPS is friendlier....Just make sure your as personal with your customers as posibble. I cant stand trying to contact a lax website and never get a response!!!
LeftySniper
06-12-2005, 03:43 PM
tony, if u do get off the ground with this and have low prices, ill support u. as long as u have torques ill buy from you. alos, you should try and get cascade because you dont need to have any inventory and still make money.
tony, if u do get off the ground with this and have low prices, ill support u. as long as u have torques ill buy from you. alos, you should try and get cascade because you dont need to have any inventory and still make money.
wow i totally forgot about cascade as well, yea i'll make sure that i definatly get them
Jpettit25
06-12-2005, 05:37 PM
Luck seems to ride on your coat-tails, Tony. The only advice I have for you is that in the web industry, you get what you pay for, especially when dealing with E-commerce. Don't skimp out on a company just because they're a little bit more expensive than another; it will pay off in the long run to utilize the more expensive one.
laxfolife24
06-12-2005, 05:50 PM
damn, got enter the lotto. me=poor, though i do have a few pennies in my sock draw.
i'm thinking about doing this one:
http://www.broadspire.com/solutions/express/shared/ecommerce/manager.html
it's not really expensive but yet has all components that i want, but my question is, is this all i need to buy? or do i have to also register a domain? this computer stuff is very difficult
ViewLax9
06-12-2005, 06:36 PM
how much are you gonna sell your stuff for because if u sell stuff for really cheap and buy them in large bulks you can sell a bunch. youll probablly have to be the cheapest to compete with the other sites that have been around for some time.
i haven't gotten any prices from any companies yet, so i don't know what i'd charge for anything
Jpettit25
06-12-2005, 06:46 PM
It's different with each company, but you will have to purchase your own domain with most companies. Make sure that you check with the company first, though.
TexasLax13
06-12-2005, 06:48 PM
ya, the computer part seems to be the hardest, that looks like a good deal I would get some computer neard(sry) to do the website they kno all the text things and stuff like the comands
anyone know someone who would build it for me?
Hookem
06-12-2005, 07:40 PM
tony I doubt anyone here knows enough web language scripting to make your E-com. site. Its requires PHP, mysql, cookies, and all that sort of stuff. My advice is goto www.hotscripts.com look for a free one, and if you dont find a free one dont RENT one, BUY one.
thanks for that hookem, but i have no clue what that is, i'm like the most computer illiterate person ever
Ghslongpole14
06-12-2005, 08:01 PM
I'm not trying to hurt your dream by any stretch of the imaginatoin, but I'm just curious as to how this would get off the ground. So I have a few questions for you.
A.) How old are you?
B.) Where are you going to run this business (garage, mall,etc.)
C.) How much money do you have to use?
D.) How do you plan on becoming an STX/Brine/Warrior dealer?
E.) Are you going to have any partners?
F.) What will make you better than QC Lax, Bacharach, etc?
G.) Are you taking any back loans or are you being fully financed by your friend's mom? And how far is she willing to back you?
H.) Will you sell mainly out of your house to local ppl, or do you think prices and shipping will be competitive enough with larger companies to ship across the continental US?
I have a lot more, but by no means am I saying you will fail. I do believe however, that emerging in the growing lacrosse market will prove rather difficult. Good luck wiht everything.
Mike
I'm not trying to hurt your dream by any stretch of the imaginatoin, but I'm just curious as to how this would get off the ground. So I have a few questions for you.
A.) How old are you?
B.) Where are you going to run this business (garage, mall,etc.)
C.) How much money do you have to use?
D.) How do you plan on becoming an STX/Brine/Warrior dealer?
E.) Are you going to have any partners?
F.) What will make you better than QC Lax, Bacharach, etc?
G.) Are you taking any back loans or are you being fully financed by your friend's mom? And how far is she willing to back you?
H.) Will you sell mainly out of your house to local ppl, or do you think prices and shipping will be competitive enough with larger companies to ship across the continental US?
I have a lot more, but by no means am I saying you will fail. I do believe however, that emerging in the growing lacrosse market will prove rather difficult. Good luck wiht everything.
Mike
A. 16
B. From my house until i see how much of a potential it is.
C. As much as i need, keeping it within reason
D. Apply to become a dealer with each company
E. My parents and Donna
F. My personal care for each customer, and my prices hopefully, and great experience with lacrosse in general
G. No loans, paid by donna and myself from working
H. I'll sell to local customers, and yes i believe my shipping rates will be very competitive
thank you for being interested enough for typing that out
laxinatl
06-12-2005, 08:28 PM
I think that this is a good idea that could really take off but you just need something to separate your company from others. It is up to you to come up with some amazing idea that will attract more people to come to your site.
i think i'm gonna steal your idea and raffle off a head or shaft, and for every 20 bucks spent you get one entry
Laxitivepro
06-12-2005, 09:21 PM
THis would be really awesome at such a young age. I'll definatly buy from you if you have good prices. Its just gonna be hard to compete with the web sites that have point systems like lacrosse.com and Lax.com. So your gonna have to have great sales or very low prices to start good.
like i said i'm gonna try to keep the prices as low as possible, i just gotta see what deal the manufactours give me
Orange
06-12-2005, 09:38 PM
Ooo tonyfab clearly doesn't read the stickies :nono:
feel free to move it if it's a must mods.
I'll back you, sir, by buying your products. I promise, no matter what price, I'll pay for your stuff. If I wanted to start a store, I'd be in the opposite position, because my brother is a computer programmer and he could help me out, and I'd need everything else. But when I buy my E3, I'll buy it from you.
Attack027
06-12-2005, 10:32 PM
Ya ill back you too. I need some new shafts
thank you and after a couple weeks of being open i'll try to figure out a way to give tlf members a discount
here is a banner made by NYLax4 any comments?
http://img131.echo.cx/img131/3831/banner24nv.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
also i'm estimating the site being up in about a month and a half, hopefully opening on August 1, 2005, and hopefully having a good grand opening sale
wilsontopowell
06-12-2005, 11:03 PM
i really like the slogan in the banner except maybe when u get the website up having millon in a cannons uniform or a diffrent player
PuLsE_SpEeD
06-12-2005, 11:15 PM
tonyfab if your store gets off the ground I'll help you out with some web design if you need it, I designed www.longislandlacrosseacademy.com for my old lacrosse coach, I'm sure I could help you with something too.
NY Lax 4
06-12-2005, 11:18 PM
me and pulse know how to PS
the slogan i made up on the spot :represent:
fenwicklax89
06-12-2005, 11:18 PM
bravo pulsespeed. i applaud your work
Laxitivepro
06-12-2005, 11:25 PM
pulsespeed...you rock dude!!!
ccbl91
06-12-2005, 11:41 PM
hey tony i'm pretty good with photoshop n stuff if u need help
ok just send me some banners and backgrounds for my computer, and thanks for everyone's help
Cburylax
06-13-2005, 12:16 AM
I can tell you first hand that all the manufacturers will require a brick and mortar storefront, plus they will only open you if you don't intrude on another existing retailers territory. I'd call them first and talk to the territory rep before doing anything else. Good luck though....
PuLsE_SpEeD
06-13-2005, 12:21 AM
http://x4.putfile.com/6/16300211280.jpg
NLLStormCA
06-13-2005, 12:33 AM
wow i wouldnt buy from him, his prices are crazy on mohawk stuff, he buys a shaft and head on ebay...the shaft is 3 yrs old and is asking for top price, na i wouldnt buy from him
wilsontopowell
06-13-2005, 01:07 AM
http://x4.putfile.com/6/16300211280.jpg
wow pulse..... that is amazing
giantredlobster
06-13-2005, 01:15 AM
This is an intereseting project.
An online marketplace is hard when it comes to lacrosse. But could prove very succesful. Lacrosse is a very hard thing to sell online as having a physical store front is much better (ability to try on sizes and different gear.) Unfortunatley since your 16 having an actual lacrosse store in your town is kind of out of the picture. Because unless there is one somewhere near you, you could have a great physical business if you had hands on help and experience working in your store.
Back to online store. You want simple. Big banners with pictures and funky text, may look cool but dosen't make your site look proffesional. You also want it to be easily navigatible. the ability for everything to be accessed from the front page without scrolling all adds to a good website. Slingitlax.com has a good website.
As far as advertising goes posting on forums wont get you too far. You might want to try to become affiliated with some of the local programs, being their official suppliers, so when say atleast 10 people on there team buys from you, they get 15% discount.
Everybody here is supportive and if you try and it fails, you tried. Before you do anything find out with the big 4 and see what they have to say. Remember everything happens in steps and be patient.
Aussie_kid
06-13-2005, 02:25 AM
tonyfab ill buy something off your site when it gets going, so hopefully i can be the first international buyer!
wow i wouldnt buy from him, his prices are crazy on mohawk stuff, he buys a shaft and head on ebay...the shaft is 3 yrs old and is asking for top price, na i wouldnt buy from him
prices of my personal stuff has nothing to do with my retail prices. and just because i wouldn't lower the price doesn't mean i'm a bad seller, it'd be like you buying superfreaks for 25 bucks, i'm sure you wouldn't sell them for 20 would you? and the stick wasn't 3 years old fyi it was only 1
NLL if you don't have any advice don't post in here
livin4lax09
06-13-2005, 08:11 AM
if you didn't take that picture of millon, you can't use it without purchasing the rights from the photographer. Also, consider fedex for shipping. Some photographers I have talked to all say they use fedex now because they pay more attention to their packages, and fedex packages always come less banged up. Plus, fedex guys are much more pleasant in my opinion.
Ghslongpole14
06-13-2005, 08:28 AM
thank you for being interested enough for typing that out
No problem, man. if this gets started, I'll try to help you get off the ground. I haven't read any of the posts since mine, but do you plan of seling stringing stuff too?
i don't think i'll be selling stringing stuff, but i will be stringing and dying
and livin thanks for the advice, i'll consider fedex also.
and nylax4 made the banner so i'll let him know to change it
eamiddy16
06-13-2005, 09:21 AM
also with some of the gear, have ur own review of the gear as well as peoples if possible its always good to read a review on gear so u an opion of what ur buying and such
palmettolax29
06-13-2005, 11:32 AM
Hey tonyfab,
I can't exactly help with the whole web design thing, but I'll definitely look into buying from you, cause I think it's great that you're working to make the customer happy, instead of just aiming to make a profit without the considerations of the customer in mind. I totally support you, and best of luck to you.
yea i'd rather spend more money on the actual equipment to buy more and get each item for less to keep the cost down rather than spend an enormous amount of money on the website
WHEELAX2
06-13-2005, 12:10 PM
Probably more important than having the website, is getting people to stop by.
Newer companies spend loads on promotions and advertising before they make their first sale.
You might also have to hire a web designer and you might need some IT help if your site crashes. and u will need a server...
you will need staff to answer phones/take internet orders/ship product/receive product.
I'm actually in the process of building a customer base for a store of my own.
you have to do a lot of footwork and reputation building.
are you planning on being a large company, or just selling for fun?
if you have any questions about website design, you can pm me.. my little brother is a computer engineer.
AZReDWiNG
06-13-2005, 12:13 PM
If you want to run an Internet-based website and you have no idea what you're doing on the computer, you need to find someone who does. Either ask someone or hire someone, but the more knowledgable he is the better. You need a TON of computer stuff including basic HTML, Perl (for order forms and such), probably CSS to make life easier while coding, and maybe PHP. Personally, I taught myself HTML but then again I was already computer savvy. It won't be easy for you should you choose to make the website yourself.
I would help you but I'm not up on the times with HTML and CSS and I don't know Perl. Plus I can guarentee that the website will be a ***** to maintain and update.
http://www.phpbb.com/ go ask the guys at this forum for help. Programming forums tend to be very friendly and helpful, and hopefully you can find a guy to get this stuff for you.
I would seriously consider paying someone to do the website; without monetary reparations nobody is going to create and maintain this large of a project. And yes, it's a large project. See Lacrosse.com: they've got every product availible on its own page, complete with cgi scripts that allow the user to "add to shopping cart". Plus keeping track of user accounts, delivery orders, etc. Anyone that does not get paid to do it will a) do a horrible job, or b) quit after a week. Pay someone to do the site.
Remember that this is just the web design portion of running the business. You also have to get licensed as a retailer, both by your city government and lacrosse companies, keep track of delivery orders, etc. You also have to look at tax codes and see how they apply to you specifically. There is a TON that goes into a business aside from the actual product. Remember, only 10% of businesses survive their first year. (On the other side of the coin, 10% of businesses is apparently enough to sustain the economy of the most powerful nation on Earth.)
If you're only 16 and still in school, how do you plan on running this store PLUS school PLUS lacrosse season, once it rolls around? The store has to be a major priority, otherwise it'll go belly-up. People get degrees in business, and those who want to run a business get Masters' degrees. Even they fail 90% of the time.
I'm not telling you not to go ahead try it. But it will be extremely challenging. I don't think you realize the magnitude of running a business. There's a ton more to consider than just lacrosse. That said, I completely support your efforts in this venture.
Not to be discouraging, but remember the dot-com bust of the 90s? Good luck.
well my father will actually be running the business per say. he's owned companies before others bought out his share due to his older age and surgeries, so he's getting everything from the goverment and such, and i want to pay someone to build the site, i just don't know who to get and how to get them
titanslax
06-13-2005, 01:04 PM
Great ambition dude, i think you should send out a catologue (sp) like Great Atlantic Lacrosse..oh and one other thing dude, you should have like events for your store..thatd be so cool like, sweetest trick contest or i dono, use your imagination. Also, be really really nice to customers, most of your customers are going to be moms who are looking for stuff to buy for their kids, so be really nice and 9 times outta 10 the mom will tell other lax moms and they'll give you business. Get your site on Google.com..how ever you do that?
AZReDWiNG
06-13-2005, 02:27 PM
well my father will actually be running the business per say. he's owned companies before others bought out his share due to his older age and surgeries, so he's getting everything from the goverment and such, and i want to pay someone to build the site, i just don't know who to get and how to get them
Go to the PHP forum I told you about. Ask them for help on how to find a willing web designer. Some may even do it for you (not for free). Be sure to mention that it's a paid job..
unta8
06-13-2005, 02:32 PM
I can possible post a threadi n something awful for you. That is where the real tech1337 hang out.
longpole
06-13-2005, 02:43 PM
You probably wouldbn't want to do this but if you wanted to i think you could opewn up like an ebay store. It wouldn't be as good as a real store but it would be great for a while to help you get off the ground
Lax4Life102
06-13-2005, 03:08 PM
ye, this whole story idea is sick. Sell goalie stuff, and a few girls items to help you get more sales. I am definetly gonna but from you, and advertise it. this way you'll get lots of customers. This is the first time I have read every post on a thread. WOW.
unta8
06-13-2005, 03:10 PM
You probably wouldbn't want to do this but if you wanted to i think you could opewn up like an ebay store. It wouldn't be as good as a real store but it would be great for a while to help you get off the ground
He already has that. Read: El Cheapo Depot and more.
TheKOB
06-13-2005, 03:26 PM
One thing to worry about is how your customers will pay you. The usual way is credit cards, and for that you have to give a small % to the credit card companies from each sale. Also don't overlook taxes and what form the business will take. I'd recommend checking out www.overstock.com and buying a few of the "for dummies" guides. There's a lot of stuff out there that'll jump up and bite ya, but I'd be more concerned with how you take orders (credit cards, etc) and the security of your site and getting registered in your state than what equipment you'll carry. Go to your library and look up some books on retailing, or talk to a retailing prof at your school. Things such as how much inventory to carry, etc and make or break a new business.
azerdwing, i posted on there twice and within 30 seconds they were both closed, i guess they don't want people who know nothing about php or whatever that is
HdGLaxWarrior
06-13-2005, 03:44 PM
Try to also get certified through Under Armour too.
swordsman
06-13-2005, 03:46 PM
I stink at comp stuff but all tell about your site and not only buy but keep people coming back for more.
lyonslax98
06-13-2005, 05:05 PM
get apparel like t-shirts and shorts on there too. definitely sponsor some local lacrosse stuff, maybe get a tournament going or if theres a house league set up a tent on the last day of games. i like what someone said about being the official supplier for your local team/school/league...make up some order forms with discounted prices and give them to the coach. at my school the only lax specialty store around fills our orders and its very convenient for players. just fill out the order form and write a check and your coach gives you your stuff a week later, and at a discounted price.
but aside from all these great ideas, the business side is really a lot more important than what stuff you will carry. it sounds like you have a decent handle on it, but make sure you don't lose sight of the fact that this is a job, not a hobby. set up the business, make sure it runs smoothly, then try to distinguish yourself.
HdGLaxWarrior
06-13-2005, 05:07 PM
Yeah, like all the brine team shorts. At a lower price though. And you should have a like a discount club, similar to lax.com, and Great Atlantic.
exile lacrosse
06-13-2005, 07:36 PM
my sugestion is to make sure whoever designs the site it has an easy to use interface. nice and quick and user friendly. laxdigest.com isnt my favorite, i just dont like the way the interface is set up.
edit: i think someone said funky text, imho, i would go with something plain and simple and EASY to read. and i wouldnt make it too small or too big. but thats all stuff for the designer.
NLLStormCA
06-14-2005, 12:09 AM
prices of my personal stuff has nothing to do with my retail prices. and just because i wouldn't lower the price doesn't mean i'm a bad seller, it'd be like you buying superfreaks for 25 bucks, i'm sure you wouldn't sell them for 20 would you? and the stick wasn't 3 years old fyi it was only 1
NLL if you don't have any advice don't post in here
well i know alot about MOHAWK and i know its more then 1 years old...second, I'm just tellin pple the truth, your out to make money right? and other companies will be able to have alot lower prices, but i know the people on the forum are smart...i'm just tellin you how i see it, you asked for opinions and you got one...not all are going to be in your favor so CALMD DOWN MONEY BOY
giantredlobster
06-14-2005, 12:24 AM
my sugestion is to make sure whoever designs the site it has an easy to use interface. nice and quick and user friendly. laxdigest.com isnt my favorite, i just dont like the way the interface is set up.
edit: i think someone said funky text, imho, i would go with something plain and simple and EASY to read. and i wouldnt make it too small or too big. but thats all stuff for the designer.
I said Funky Text was bad.
exile lacrosse
06-14-2005, 05:53 AM
I said Funky Text was bad.
ok sorry about that i evidently cant read. guess im pretty f'd on the english final :banghead:
TheKOB
06-14-2005, 10:47 AM
just heard on a morning show this morning about that Donna lady winning the lottery twice in PA. I wonder what the odds were that that she'll win a 3rd time....
WHEELAX2
06-14-2005, 10:56 AM
have you made a business plan yet?
and check into local laws and such... ie tax laws.. business laws.. intra and interstate transaction laws...
you might even want to look into taking a business class or two at your high school/buy some business books
There's a lot that goes into a small business.. lots of planning...
yea wheelax i've taken business classes in school already, but me and my family have come to the conclusion that right now isn't the best time to do it, they want me to wait a couple years and then actually be able to open a store not out of my house, so after fighting with them, and thinking about it more, i think it's a good move, it gives me more time to plan, take classes as you said, and most importantly mature in my life, which i feel will give the future customer a better experience when purchasing
so for all the people that wanted me to fail, start laughing now. jk :chuckle:
again thanks for everything everyone has done, but sorry to inform you of the bad news.
WHEELAX2
06-14-2005, 11:28 AM
that blows... couldn't you start something for right now?
OutBurst
06-14-2005, 11:31 AM
Online stores aren't known for racking up the cash so I would suggest to just rent a retail space and put the effort into opening up a real store. I am a little lazy right now but my reasoning is there.
no they don't want me to, but i'd really like to, i do have the stringing and dying thing on ebay so i guess i'm gonna stick to that
Online stores aren't known for racking up the cash so I would suggest to just rent a retail space and put the effort into opening up a real store. I am a little lazy right now but my reasoning is there.
i totally understand now what your saying and thats something else that my parents were saying.
TheKOB
06-14-2005, 11:46 AM
Online stores aren't known for racking up the cash so I would suggest to just rent a retail space and put the effort into opening up a real store. I am a little lazy right now but my reasoning is there.
They're not? Do you mean just online stores, or places like lacrosse.com as well who have a catalogue? I always figured that the majority of business was done through the internet.
OutBurst
06-14-2005, 11:56 AM
They're not? Do you mean just online stores, or places like lacrosse.com as well who have a catalogue? I always figured that the majority of business was done through the internet.
The majority of business is done through the internet but that doesn't mean it is the most profitable way.
Yes, setting up an online store does have its benefits: low storage costs, low wholesale prices, and low labor.
Cons of online stores are: very little interaction and actual salesmanship, less trustworthy, and having to deal with MAPs.
Actual shopping stores have good interactions with their customers, better sponsoring of local schools/colleges, and overall low overhang. MAPs are meant to keep the local stores in business. Once relationships are developed between the store and the customer, trust is built, therefore free advertising and return customers.
Cons of shopping stores are: rent/purchase/mortgage is high, property taxes, employee's salary, insurance, and all that other good stuff.
In my opinion, I would much rather build my own shopping store in a town than start up an online business.
livin4lax09
06-14-2005, 02:37 PM
oh yeah, if you need photos for logos, let me know
HdGLaxWarrior
06-14-2005, 02:44 PM
He said he wasnt doing it...
I'm sorry to hear the Tony.
laxdudesvn2
06-14-2005, 04:46 PM
Wow, all i have to say is good luck and i'll def. support you bro.
t-square
06-14-2005, 05:04 PM
16 huh? Good for you.
?1: How much is Donna willing to invest in your venture?
?2: How big do you want want this idea to be? Local? Regional? National?
?3: What's going to differentiate you from your competition?
?4: Do/will you know your [potential] customer and their demographics?
?5: Do/will you know your [potential] competitors?
?6: Can/will you manage a "Click & Order" AND a "bricks & mortar" format?
?7: Etc.
?8: Etc.
?9: Etc.
IMHO, if you really want to do it RIGHT bone-up on alot of "marketing" know-how or hire someone with that knowledge and a [successful] track record. That will be a start. Of course, there are plenty of garage-based businesses that have made the bigtime based on vision, dedication, "who you know" and some luck.
Good luck man!
Ghslongpole14, sorry for the redundancy on ?s.
swordsman
06-14-2005, 05:07 PM
That's cool... In a couple of years restart this thread and see who's still around. :monkey: :monkey: :monkey: :monkey: :monkey: (sorry I olike the monkey )