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Implant
06-16-2005, 02:13 PM
can girls shoot sidearm or underhand with their sticks? and if so is it faster than their overhand shot?
Piklz
06-16-2005, 02:30 PM
My adverage overhand shot is 49 and the adverage sidearm (riser) is 48. BUT THAT'LL CHANGE THANKS TO MY NEW STICK!!!! WOOT!!! cough, anyway, it all depends on you and how often u practice each.
ilaxitup007
06-16-2005, 02:59 PM
yeah i rely on my sidearm and i love it. my riser is mad fast, a lot faster than over hand. probably becaus ei practice risers all the time and i love them. i wish i knew how fast my shot was.
underhand is like shovel shots and on my team, they are forbidden. hah my coach hates them and they are usually very weak.
laxfolife24
06-16-2005, 04:19 PM
i know one girl on my team that can fire shovel shots, but i like the sidearm/over hand mix-if that makes any sense.
the under hand shot or shovel shot is alot slower but you can fake a golaie out pretty well with them.
ljlax
06-16-2005, 10:34 PM
underhand and shovel are different shots. shovel is when ur facing away from the goal and dont "push/pull" and just "shovel" the ball in. but if u shoot with ur back to the goal and like flick it more, its a real shot and not shovel and pretty cool.--the shot im talking abuot is like a backwards side arm sorta. if u know waht i mean.
my side arm sorta sucks so its way slower and not accurate but its getting better....
rebellax
06-17-2005, 07:21 AM
i have no clue how girls get any kind of whip on there sticks or how they can play with shallow pockets i give girls respect for that........
yeah u can get like a speed gun for around $100 not a bad investment for you and a couple friends
ljlax
06-17-2005, 07:23 AM
or a lot of the time at camps they do like fastest shot contests. also, ive known lacrosse stores to have one that u can use
btw with newer heads (tempest, impulse, apex, etc) girls can have a pretty good pocket compared to what they used to have to play with
molax19
06-17-2005, 08:01 AM
Does anyone know a way to practice quick stick shots on your own? Mine look awful lately.
ljlax
06-17-2005, 08:10 AM
if u dont have somoene to feed u. then just go to the wall and do quick sticks and try to hit the same spot eveyrtime. it might be hard to catch if ur doing it hard. but if u stand farther away it should be managable. other than that i have no idea what u could do..
RockStar
06-17-2005, 08:38 AM
You need a bit of a whippy stick to get a fast, hard underhand shot. Sidearm needs a bit of whip, but not as much.
I'm guessing it can be done with a woman's stick, but it's going to take lots of work!
laxchic
06-17-2005, 01:43 PM
anyone wanna define the terms "risers" and "whip" for me?
thanx!
Piklz
06-17-2005, 07:01 PM
okay webster... whats pnumonomicroscopiconocolios? Yeah, i thought so...
UKLaxFan
06-17-2005, 07:59 PM
anyone wanna define the terms "risers" and "whip" for me?
thanx!
Laxchic: Whip can be described even easier.
The amount of "Whip" on a stick is determined by the angle of release of the ball when you throw it. The steeper or greater the angle the more whip there is. The shallower or narrower the angle of release the less whip a stick has.
The easiest way to measure the whip on a stick is to put a ball in a stick and tilt it Head down / Handle up until the ball falls out of the stick head.
On some men's sticks you can hold the stick upside down and it will still hold the ball if it has a lot of "whip".
Inside Lacrosse article on Stick Stringing Tips by Paul Gait covers it.
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=69632
You can have Whip in a women's stick and still be legal. It involves having a top pocket, or having the maximum depth of pocket you can have just underneath the shooting strings. This allows you to get more power into your shots, but you need to set the ball up in the stick to be able to pass accurately on the run.
Shooting power has more to do with technique than strength, watch Mark Millon's Offensive Wizardry or read up on proper technique.
Shooting with Mark Millon article
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=70226
Shooting: Learn the Proper Mechanics
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=72080
UKLF :bye:
LCNlaxman
06-17-2005, 08:10 PM
okay webster... whats pnumonomicroscopiconocolios? Yeah, i thought so...
Too bad you either spelled it wrong OR it doesn't exist. You shall hush now.
Piklz
06-17-2005, 08:16 PM
Gah, u ruined it... I guess i spelled it wrong or added a few syllables, but its a disease of the lungs caused by breathing in volcanic ash and sulfur. :dummy:
LCNlaxman
06-17-2005, 08:22 PM
Hmm, that's pretty interesting, actually.
UKLaxFan
06-17-2005, 08:51 PM
Pneumoconiosis -
Occupational disease principally of miners working in confined and dusty conditions. Caused by inhaling irritants, often only as minute specks, the disease inflames and can finally destroy lung tissue.
Piklz
06-17-2005, 08:55 PM
same thing... lol
laxlove5
06-19-2005, 09:41 PM
Shovel shots are the way to "get around" using your left (or non dominant, whichever you want to call it) hand for a shot. They're also pretty easy for the goalie to save. And side shots are good because you can sometimes shake your defender (as well as the goalie) by pulling an unexpected one on them. And the behind-the-back shot, which I cannot do but really throws someone off (and just plain looks cool), is just rolling the crease and throwing the ball over your shoulder. I personally have trouble getting whip and power on mine. But they look really cool and usually come unexpected.
Texlax13
06-28-2005, 01:12 AM
And the behind-the-back shot, which I cannot do but really throws someone off (and just plain looks cool), is just rolling the crease and throwing the ball over your shoulder. I personally have trouble getting whip and power on mine. But they look really cool and usually come unexpected.
I totally agress about the behind-the-back shot. They're pretty hard to pull off and usually require a lot of practice. The only girl I've ever seen do one in-person perfectly was Kendie Bauer of the Towson University Tigers. She is just a Freshman, and doesn't shoot too much b/c shes a middie, but she has an amazing shot! She helped coach a lax camp here in Dallas.
Trilax03
06-28-2005, 01:16 AM
i'm a goalie and a girl did a behind the back shot in a tournament and i completely was caught off guard...but i've mostly been seeing shots from sidearms rather than overhand
Piklz
06-28-2005, 07:32 AM
I totally agress about the behind-the-back shot. They're pretty hard to pull off and usually require a lot of practice. The only girl I've ever seen do one in-person perfectly was Kendie Bauer of the Towson University Tigers. She is just a Freshman, and doesn't shoot too much b/c shes a middie, but she has an amazing shot! She helped coach a lax camp here in Dallas.
Kendi helped out at the camp I went to. Not only is she a great laxer, but she's really cool. We totally dominated as a team in foosball :laugh:
Trilax03
06-28-2005, 08:42 AM
It sucks when you let one it, they all get happy lol
yeah they do lol...but they creamed us anyways
ilaxitup007
06-28-2005, 10:09 AM
i scored on a btb shot once. it was mad sweet.
allylax03
06-28-2005, 10:19 AM
About the faster shot, if you shoot a normal overhand shot it is much faster than a sidearm shot. Why? Because a overhand shot uses your legs and back muscles along with those huge biceps and triceps I'm sure you all have. The sidearm is much more your arm muscles than your whole body. Girls espically have less arm muscles than legs and back muscles.
I don't know if other people said this because I got tired of reading but there you go.
LTlaxfan
06-28-2005, 01:06 PM
I think switching to sidearm from two handed last second is one of the toughest shots to block, because the goalie doesn't see it coming. Also, between the legs bounce shot is the best spot to aim for. Pretty much impossible to stop.
laxgirl0108
07-05-2005, 09:59 PM
um...i kind of disagree. (being a goalie), i feel that the between the legs bouncer will some times go in (hey, you can't save everything), but I feel that if the shooter is to the left of me, and nails a bouncer in the right corner, that's a tougher shot. Also, if the shooter is to the right of me, and nails a bouncer in the left corner. But you are right-bouncers are HARD to stop.
ljlax
07-05-2005, 11:25 PM
they arent impossible to stop but they are easy to shoot and goalies are rarely ready for them. i dont think a goalie has ever saved a shot of mine between the legs(prac or games)
I always thought the weak side hip was the toughest shot for a goalie to stop.
ljlax
07-05-2005, 11:48 PM
it is. but its way easier to shoot between the legs. i usually just shoot somewhere between weak side knee and shoulder
laxgirl0108
07-05-2005, 11:53 PM
It depends on the goalie-most people have a rougher time with hip shots and bouncers, but some are amazing low, and could stop shots between the legs, but are awful on high shots. some, are the other way around...
frlax348
07-11-2005, 11:33 AM
i think it all depends on the goalie. my teams goalie is pretty good with low its when u shoot opposite high thats when she has problems. between the legs shot is good if u fake them up high first then drop the shoulder and bounce it low there.
ljlax
07-11-2005, 05:28 PM
i was just saying taht like if ur under pressure and dont really have time to aim or fake its easy to shoot between the legs and many goalies (atleast around me) arent usually expecting it.. yeah i definately shoot weak side knee to weak side high usually (anywhere along that pipe.. :) )
ljlax
07-15-2005, 09:03 PM
yeah i agree off hip is the best shot and usually where i shoot. but for me between the legs is easy and effective...and sort of a cheap shot sometimes
laxfolife24
07-15-2005, 09:49 PM
yeah maybe its cuz we in cali and the goalies like aren't ready for it but between the legs hgas worked almost everytime except against your goalie, shes muy bueno.
ljlax
07-15-2005, 09:57 PM
she goes to a different high school than me. but yeah shes pretty good... but i scored btween the legs on her... lol only once. other wise off side hip.. but anywayy
wait we had two goalies.. which one are u talking about?
laxgirl0108
07-16-2005, 08:11 AM
I think that unless you are a goalie, it's pretty hard to say what a goalie's toughest shot is. Even though you may score a lot on one particular goalie for a shot, that doesn't mean that shot is hard for every goalie. Personally, I think that a weak side bounce is much harder to save the between the legs. Maybe it's easier to shoot, but for between the legs, you don't have to step to a side, or worry about stick positioning on offside or anything to save it...
ljlax
07-16-2005, 09:54 AM
i know...and people can stop telling me that cuz i def know that weak side hip is hardest. and i've shot on way more than one goalie.. ands its not nessessarily hard to save, i would thinkit would be easy. its jus easy for me to score.(btween the legs)
then again i have prob scored more goals on the goalie off side hip. so theres no point to this. and u guys dont need to keep telling me that weak side hip is a better/the best/hardest to save shot...
:)