From the north to the south (FL lacrosse)

[XtremeLax]

Have any northern teams played against Florida teams... What do you think? Personally I think Florida is getting better and better, yet still some northern teams are just outrageous. I guess its only a matter of time and at the pace Florida is travelling hopefully within the next couple of years we will be considered a great lacrosse state on par or even better then some of the northern states.

All opinions are welcome... what do ya think?

[UNCdefense]

not really in the north(north carolina), & i havnt played any florida teams but we played GA team that was pretty good.....lax is getting big everywhere, it'll be the next sport to be recognized by all high schools(even in the south), give it 10 years & i guarantee almost every public high school will have a registered lax team.....back on topic though, yall got invited to a big tourney up here & never showed up whats up????

[XtremeLax]

What tourney I don't remember anything like that offered to my team... If it had been we would have come. my team is all about spreading the word and getting better.

[ragnut]

McDonough beat Florida's state champ St. Andrews 16-1
Woodberry Forrest I believe beat them 6-5
Hewlett beat Florida state runner-up Winter Park I believe 10-5

[XtremeLax]

Thanks-
Yea as I said you northern boys are still better... however St. Andrews is on a decline, other schools are better and some club teams are unnoticed yet good, I believe My school beat Winter Park as well, we were #5 in state two years ago and and we are like #24 in southern area... georgia, tennessee, etc.

[thetruth]

Thanks-
Yea as I said you northern boys are still better... however St. Andrews is on a decline, other schools are better and some club teams are unnoticed yet good, I believe My school beat Winter Park as well, we were #5 in state two years ago and and we are like #24 in southern area... georgia, tennessee, etc.

Saint Andrew's lacrosse has supposedly been on the decline for the past 3 years but all they've done is won 3 championships in a row and 9 of the past 11 titles. How long is it going to take people to realize that it doesn't matter who they lose, they're going to always reload. And if decline means bringing back a sophomore attackman who was All-American, then yea they're on a decline.

[XtremeLax]

Saint Andrew's lacrosse has supposedly been on the decline for the past 3 years but all they've done is won 3 championships in a row and 9 of the past 11 titles. How long is it going to take people to realize that it doesn't matter who they lose, they're going to always reload. And if decline means bringing back a sophomore attackman who was All-American, then yea they're on a decline.

How about your recent loss to GP and Pinecrest this past season.... IDK how you guys lose and still manage to go to finals it isn't fair. do you pay someone, if so who, cause my team wants a piece of a championship aswell.

[CFLaxer]

What team do u play for that beat WP? Also, 10-5 isnt a bad score against hewlett considering they were one of the best teams in new york and had multiple players going to D-1 schools. And St. Andrews only lost to Woodberry forest by 1 point, but they beat cincinatti indian hill.

[thetruth]

How about your recent loss to GP and Pinecrest this past season.... IDK how you guys lose and still manage to go to finals it isn't fair. do you pay someone, if so who, cause my team wants a piece of a championship aswell.

Wow, someone needs to chill out. First of all, Gulliver didn't beat SA this season. Saint Andrew's won 11-9 at SA and 8-7 in overtime in the South Florida Championship which was down in Miami. And yea, Pince Crest did beat SA and they should get credit for that. Saint Andrew's lost a game in the regular season, so should that eliminate them? I recall that Gulliver lost in the regular season so why should you go to the championship. And finally, if you want a piece of the championship then you should've put your money where your mouth was in the South Florida Championship. You've lost that game 3 years in a row, so why should you deserve the title. And I'm not trying to be rude because I believe most Gulliver players are more knowledgeble and don't share your opinion. You guys had a great season, but couldn't get over the hump. I believe you guys will be right back in the thick of things next year but don't go off making presposterous claims with no facts to back them up.

[chslax538]

A few years back a kid from florida came up to play with us at a turney and he was amazing. I thought lacrosse was big in florida though.

[CFLaxer]

Florida does have some sick players, its just the team aspect isnt there yet.

[XtremeLax]

Florida does have some sick players, its just the team aspect isnt there yet.

agree-
and also, I'm not saying that St. Andrews sucks, I've just been hearing from other FL teams that they arn't getting any better. I also heard, seeing as how I didn't witness, that you guys lost to GP in Miami... I don't go there I go to Dwyer. You beat us this past season. You know what sucks tho... WE beat St ed's twice in reg season and had a better redord, but then we lost to them by one point in districts. I'm just sayin it seems like no matter what the under doggs do they can't get threw the first.. the "best" teams in FL. especially those club teams they had it bad last season thanks to your likes... Club teams can't go on to win states anymore, or so I have heard, and one club blames it on you and a few other state contenders.

[Conrice]

i think the area that has it the best is the miami area....kids play for multiple teams there....they can stay with their highschool teams, and then go out for club teams like weston......you gotta remember...a lot of kids havent been playing lax that long in FL.....a lot of the kids are just athletes that pick it up and stick with it....go FL lax....look at FSU...that team is mostly fl players, and they'll be goin' d1 in a few years.....so watch out

[XtremeLax]

I didn't know FSU was goin D1 thats tight... Do you know anything about the other colleges in FL. and where was lacrosse first introduced to FL, does anyone know???

[Conrice]

ya....its always been an east coast thing....cuz a lot of ppl retire from the northeast in the miami area....so thats where it really started....and then it just kinda spread out from there

[lacrosse19]

besides www.flalax.com are there any lacrosse shops around the tampa area? im looking to find a job

[thetruth]

agree-
and also, I'm not saying that St. Andrews sucks, I've just been hearing from other FL teams that they arn't getting any better. I also heard, seeing as how I didn't witness, that you guys lost to GP in Miami... I don't go there I go to Dwyer. You beat us this past season. You know what sucks tho... WE beat St ed's twice in reg season and had a better redord, but then we lost to them by one point in districts. I'm just sayin it seems like no matter what the under doggs do they can't get threw the first.. the "best" teams in FL. especially those club teams they had it bad last season thanks to your likes... Club teams can't go on to win states anymore, or so I have heard, and one club blames it on you and a few other state contenders.

For the third time, Gulliver did not beat Saint Andrew's this year. SA won in Boca 11-9 and beat Gulliver 8-7 in OT in the Regional Championship in Miami. If you're referring to 2004, then yes, SA lost in the regular season to Gulliver in Miami. How can SA get better if they win the championship every year? And why should Dwyer deserve a piece of the title? Saint Andrew's spanked you guys 12-1 in the regular season and you didn't even make it out of districts. You guys had a lot of pre-season hype but that was it. OK, so if you beat Saint Edward's twice in the regular season wouldn't that make them the underdogs? There's no conspiracy against you. They beat you when the game was on the line and that's it. And what are you talking about club teams can't go on to win states anymore because of us? No club teams ever won the state championship. And if you're referring to Weston, they're a garbage team who loves to believe they're better than Saint Andrew's even though SA was up by at least 15 goals at halftime both times they played them in 2004. Why are the club teams complaining? They would never beat SA, Gulliver, Pine Crest, Saint Edward's or even Dwyer for that matter for a state title. It's the high school state championship not club league championship.They should be content with the fact that they're state champs of some level even if it is against garbage club teams.

[ragnut]

It would be interesting to see how FSU does, as they were the #4 ranked college club team in the country this year.

[wickedlaxer4]

wow, theres like a new thread every day on Florida Lax

[chargerlacrosse]

well yeah XtremeLax i played for dwyer back when i was a freshman and guys like siegel, dom, kev, danny, and geoff are all elite level players. i mean look at your football team you guys have pure athletes who need a year or two of solid playing (because at least celeste, heide and crotty teach stick skills unlike our "coaches" at suncoast lol) and you can pretty much get to the point where you give the dude the ball from the face and watch the other team try to catch him. the thing is though, for the south to truly compete with the north in any sense, obviously the foundation needs to be set in the younger years, and the youth league scene needs to be more widespread and more appealing, if you will. i mean look at it, lax still has to compete with baseball and travel basketball among other things in the spring. but once everything comes together, the climate is so favorable down here and the athletes are numerous enough that some truly solid players can emerge. in your position, i'm sure u've noticed at dwyer that a really good team can come together with a superior level of coaching and a group of interested guys. first year, you all were 6-6, then this year you lost to ed's in districts, and yes, you did lose all those seniors, but in our district anyway you guys are still high up there because you have a JV team and willing coaches to coach, and play, all year round. so yeah, look at it, over a few years, JTAA Tide/DWyer lax has produced 5 really good players. the 561 is def. on the rise

[XtremeLax]

Thanx charger good point.. what do you think about the set up of more youth leagues... and truth in my last message i wasn't tryin to argue with you, I was merely TELLING YOU THAT YOU HAD A GOOD POINT BECAUSE I WAS JUST RELAYED INFO I DIDN'T KNOW FOR SURE... I also said that SA had a good team and that you deserved what you got but that it would be nice for the smaller teams to grow as good as you and GP and Pinecrest etc. to better FL as a state in the lacrosse world.. sorry it didn't come out that way but there is no need for you to get b*&chy. now stop fighting about how good your teem is and only post on subject.

[chargerlacrosse]

well xtreme take a look at weston even tho they are a bunch of arrogant chumps you go to their field they have their warrior posters all over the place, looking like theyre ready for the lacrosse version of the and 1 mixtape open run...and people buy it, and they do have a good program, just not nearly as good as they think they are, i'm not one to talk because my team was 2-12, but really, for a club team, etzion i mean SA would wreck them. hell you guys could have beat them this year. but the point is weston in particular does a great job of adversting the game and making it appealing to the kids there. and jupiter is coming along even tho they dont have celestes strong hand of influence they still are at least developing players. and now i heard gardens has a rec-ish league and stuff. so its spreading. once kids put down the baseball gloves sooner and the sticks earlier, it'll happen. but jupiter is so bent on baseball, so it will take time and a few state championships by either you guys (which could happen in the coming years) or jupiter (scary thought) before it really picks up. so while things need to fall into place, like i said earlier there are way too many good athletes and parents down here with such deep pockets that there is the potential for lax to rise to the level of the north...and ragnut mcdonogh is the best team in the nation, MD state champ. give SA or gulliver any .500 NY team and its a contest...

[flalax]

[QUOTE=chargerlacrosse] (etzion i mean SA would wreck them. )


Etzion is not St.Andrews whole team. Yeah he is their best player but they are solid throughout. We held Etzion to 1 goal 0 assists in the semifinal. Every Sucessful team in this state has at least 15 players that can contribute to a win. Not just one or two. And this is why teams from north Florida can't beat good south teams.

[GAlax3]

florida lacrosse could not compete with northern lacrosse and they wont be able to soon you retard

[chargerlacrosse]

ight bro you should talk coming from GA i bet you get smoked down here...and yeah flalax i respect that i actually would liked to have seen you gulliver guys take it to SA, its just etzion is a baller he's gonna be like danowski getting AA cred his soph, junior, and senior seasons...and GA when i say soon i dont mean next year, im saying once certain things happen and the right elements settle in the right areas with good athletes and enthusiastic coaches it can happen. look at how torrey pines CA beat garden city i think it was a few years ago. cherry creek colorado is good, so are brother rice from michigan and upper arlington in ohio and now in CA, la costa canyon, all within the top 33 nationally...im not saying we're going to experience a 180 degree reversal in the talent spectrum from the north to the south. in his opening statement Xtreme noted the pace at which florida is progressing within the next few years, so am saying florida's elite teams are gona upstage teams like mcdonogh and west genesee and darien...no...but it is evident in FL and probably in GA too that kids are getting good, fast, and if you get the right group of guys in say a summer tourney, anything can happen...and fyi GA, flalax's team is good. real good.

[Gobbler]

Many, many moons from now, Florida will be able to fill the waterbottles for the teams up north. Competitive play will arrive sometime around December 3010.
Go Baltimore! :guns:

[GAlax3]

ight bro you should talk coming from GA i bet you get smoked down here...
GA lacrosse is better than florida..but i never said that we could compete with the north either..i know we cant but i also know for a fact that there are teams that we can compete with..considering that i have had close games with teams from up north in tournaments and such..but both georgia and florida haave very good players but we dont have teams that could compete with the best teams from the north for example..your state champs getting beat 16-1 by a satisfactory team from the north..and you try to tell me that florida lax will soon be able to compete with the north, it wont

[flalax]

I think it is you who is the retard. You must be kidding calling Mcdonough a satisfactory team. They were the best team in the nation. Everyone loves to look at how Mcdonough killed every team they played down here but look at some of the scores that Mcdonough had against some Maryland teams many of the scores were just as bad. You wanna know how a state gets better. they play teams from big lacrosse states. and while your best teams are playing games aginst teams from tenessee (and losing) Florida teams are playing teams from Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio and New York. That is exactly why in a few years Florida will be able to compete with the nations best. And how can you say that Georga is better than florida you have probably never seen a good florida team play. I have seen some Georga lacrosse Your state champs from 2 or 3 seasons ago and i can honestly say put St. Andrews ,Pinecrest, or Gulliver against them and they would get smoked.

[flalax]

Oh yeah and Chargerlacrosse Etzion is a baller I wasnt trying to say he wasnt I just dont think he is their whole team. in the first game against us i think he scored 5 goals. and against winter park in the state championchip he tooled their entire defense all night.

[FortMyersLax]

Florida lacrosse is getting bigger by the year. In my area they are all club teams, but we are working on it. Its just a matter of time.

[GAlax3]

I think it is you who is the retard. You must be kidding calling Mcdonough a satisfactory team. They were the best team in the nation. Everyone loves to look at how Mcdonough killed every team they played down here but look at some of the scores that Mcdonough had against some Maryland teams many of the scores were just as bad. You wanna know how a state gets better. they play teams from big lacrosse states. and while your best teams are playing games aginst teams from tenessee (and losing) Florida teams are playing teams from Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio and New York. That is exactly why in a few years Florida will be able to compete with the nations best. And how can you say that Georga is better than florida you have probably never seen a good florida team play. I have seen some Georga lacrosse Your state champs from 2 or 3 seasons ago and i can honestly say put St. Andrews ,Pinecrest, or Gulliver against them and they would get smoked.
actually we have teams playing other teams from all over the south and we have travelling teams that go to tournaments up north..hmmmmm loost like someone doesnt know what theyre talking about doesnt it

[chargerlacrosse]

and GaLax: "GA lacrosse is better than florida"...for all we know you play in a peach orchard...also in flalax's defense, even tho he clearly mentioned it himself, mcDonogh would steamroll your team or even lassiter for that matter. in fact, i think pope john paul 2 from down here takes it to your pope squad...maybe thats just me

[GAlax3]

and GaLax: "GA lacrosse is better than florida"...for all we know you play in a peach orchard...also in flalax's defense, even tho he clearly mentioned it himself, mcDonogh would steamroll your team or even lassiter for that matter. in fact, i think pope john paul 2 from down here takes it to your pope squad...maybe thats just me
did i say that mcdonogh would lose to my school or lassiter? no all that i said is that this whole thread is retarded cus its a bunch of florida kids being like very soon florida lacrosse will be able to compete with if not be better than the northern lacrosse which is completely untrue

also, you have not seen my school play nor do you know **** about it

[CFLaxer]

I've seen lassiter play, St. Andrews would tear them a new one.

[flalax]

No one is saying that a florida team will be able to beat a top 10 team next year or the year after that. what we are saying is in 10 years florida will be able to compete with big lax states because about 2 years ago many teams down here started youth programs for kids in elementary school so when those kids get to high school they will have a ton of experience.

[GAlax3]

I've seen lassiter play, St. Andrews would tear them a new one.
good for them..lassiter isnt that good they just start the season strong but get worse as the season goes on..they got murdered by lovett..and which game did you see?

[XtremeLax]

did i say that mcdonogh would lose to my school or lassiter? no all that i said is that this whole thread is retarded cus its a bunch of florida kids being like very soon florida lacrosse will be able to compete with if not be better than the northern lacrosse which is completely untrue

also, you have not seen my school play nor do you know **** about it

Actually the point of the thread was so that northern teams could tell floridians what they thought of us, and to note the rapid developement of Fl lacrosse. By the way I didn't know anyone in georgia knew how to play lacrosse. wups my bad- oh and why don't you stop saying we've never seen your team play, tell us what team you play for and we'll let you know whether that is true or not. damn your a ****y son of a b*tch. your the only d*ck coming in a forum simply to bash all that post. :nono: