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Expressgoalie01
08-05-2005, 09:39 AM
What do you guys think was the biggest equipment improvement in lacrosse? If you chose "other" what was it?

allyearlax
08-05-2005, 09:45 AM
MESH all kinds of it

Expressgoalie01
08-05-2005, 09:47 AM
o yea sorry forgot that one good call

stegmakk
08-05-2005, 09:49 AM
Plastic head...
Without it, the rest could not have happened...

lax12345
08-05-2005, 09:59 AM
by far the plastic head

LaxAttack2
08-05-2005, 10:03 AM
definately the plastic head, definately changed the game in a good way

DJ Death
08-05-2005, 10:05 AM
Yeah, the plastic head comes in first, but the titanium shaft definitely comes in second. Princeton had a huge advantage with those things when Dave Morrow started handing them out to his team.

EaglesLax22
08-05-2005, 10:16 AM
i agree the plastic head definetly

spenny
08-05-2005, 10:19 AM
the only thing that the titanium shaft improved in lacrosse is the profits of warrior, STX, Brine et. al

roycegracie47
08-05-2005, 10:23 AM
the only thing that the titanium shaft improved in lacrosse is the profits of warrior, STX, Brine et. al
To that note, I would say it is more apt that the first aluminum shafts to go along with synthetic heads in replacing wood would be a bigger innovation/improvement as opposed to developing a titanium shaft.

Expressgoalie01
08-05-2005, 10:28 AM
Yea your right titanium isnt needed its just a great shaft. Everyone could survive with just aluminum shafts. Aluminum was the start of all new metal shafts. Good point roycegracie

LFLax12
08-05-2005, 10:45 AM
the mesh pocket is pretty big

ColtsLax
08-05-2005, 04:18 PM
new pads and gloves, changed the game.

RockStar
08-05-2005, 06:06 PM
You can make a case for plastic heads, but I'm going to buck the trend and say:

-offset heads,

-followed by metal shafts.

Playing with an old-style straight plastic head with traditional stringing is hardly any different from playing with a lighter-weight woodstick. It's essentially no different if you're using a wood shaft with your tupperware.

Lax101
08-05-2005, 06:13 PM
There's so many more advancements then the choices..

-Metal shaft
-Offset/curved head
-split fingers in gloves
-the use of vaportek/coolmax in gloves
-Mesh
-seperation of shafts and heads (heads and shafts are interchangeable)
-shooting strings

I would give a tie to metal shafts and plastic heads. It just advances the game so much in durability and performance. With the Cascade helmet, there's still many who don't use a cascade. With mesh, theres many who still use trad. With titanium shafts, hell I've never used a ti shaft (not much of an advancement at all...what % of people use ti shafts? less than 15%?), etc. However, about 99% of everyone has converted to a plastic head and/or metal shaft.

Garor
08-05-2005, 06:15 PM
You can make a case for plastic heads, but I'm going to buck the trend and say:

-offset heads,

-followed by metal shafts.

Playing with an old-style straight plastic head with traditional stringing is hardly any different from playing with a lighter-weight woodstick. It's essentially no different if you're using a wood shaft with your tupperware.

But I think the point is the offset came from the plastic head. Offset could have been used in wood sticks, but it would be difficult to do. I felt the offset was a big improvement too, but it came from the plastic head.

THEHENRON
08-05-2005, 06:17 PM
If we didn't have plastic heads we wouldent have off set heads plus titanium dosent make a huge dif i am just as good as when i play with some crappy aluminum shaft instead of my stx ti

RockStar
08-05-2005, 06:26 PM
If we didn't have plastic heads we wouldent have off set heads

Not true at all. Gaits and others were off-setting heads way before Brine cooked up the idea. (Gaits and others off-set heads by bending their metal shafts.)

So, I'm going to move the metal shaft from second to first place in my list of biggest improvement. Guess it goes without saying that synthetic heads are needed for metal shafts, so the plastic head and metal shaft are tied.

plus titanium dosent make a huge dif i am just as good as when i play with some crappy aluminum shaft instead of my stx ti

Titanium is not for improving stickhandling/shooting etc. It's for smashing the hell out of your opponents without breaking 2 to 5 shafts per season!

Expressgoalie01
08-09-2005, 05:31 PM
anything else

tomahawks11
08-09-2005, 06:38 PM
i thought it would be the helmet because it brought out better head protection

lax4life6
08-09-2005, 06:39 PM
im gonna say the plastic head closely followed by the offset head/shaft.

lottaLaX
08-09-2005, 07:25 PM
I think it's separating the stick(heads and shafts). It has expanded the market a great deal and without it there wouldn't be improvements such as the plastic head, offset heads, and the titanium shaft.

wrwarrior19
08-10-2005, 09:48 AM
In my book, the head/shaft separation is pretty big. Like Lottalax said, the separation allowed for greater innovations of the head and shaft.

broslax16
08-10-2005, 10:00 AM
IMO the plastic head is the biggest improvement to the game. All the other things have helped, but the plastic head has made a great impact on the game.

WHEELAX2
08-10-2005, 10:26 AM
helmets if your an old schooler.. if you had to wear those old buckets you'd understand.. but most of you guys are in the cascade era.. try an old sport helmet on just to see what it was like

spenny
08-10-2005, 11:09 AM
In my book, the head/shaft separation is pretty big. Like Lottalax said, the separation allowed for greater innovations of the head and shaft.

innovation? i'll repeat myself, the biggest innovation in sticks (other than the offset shaft) is the ability to separate you from as much as $250 or more for a complete stick.

selling shafts and heads separately just increased the amount of $ that you can pay.

my first stick cost $25 while that was over 25 years ago, the stick you are getting today isnt worth 10 times the expense.

TweeK
08-10-2005, 01:11 PM
its really the plastic heads, because everyone has one on their sticks, but not everybody has a cascade helmet and titanium shafts aren't really "a big emprovement"

shoebag2000
08-10-2005, 02:55 PM
I say plastic heads, followed by making those heads offset. Plastic heads just opened up a whole new world of possibilities in head design.

lottaLaX
08-10-2005, 03:01 PM
its really the plastic heads, because everyone has one on their sticks, but not everybody has a cascade helmet and titanium shafts aren't really "a big emprovement"
Not specifically Cascade helmets, I think he meant the innovation of helmets from the 80's brain buckets to our CLH, Stryke, Triad, etc. Cascade pretty much single handedly changed the lacrosse world with their helmets.

regulate34
08-10-2005, 03:56 PM
Yea your right titanium isnt needed its just a great shaft. Everyone could survive with just aluminum shafts. Aluminum was the start of all new metal shafts. Good point roycegracie
i couldent use a aluminum in box i break hickory
the only thing that has held up for a hole box season is my stx ti

Expressgoalie01
08-10-2005, 07:19 PM
anything else