Going to Space?

[lax21286]

Do you guys think that we will expand into space and live on different planets? Where does space end?? Is there an end??? Are we the only ones living in space? Is there Extraterestrial lifeforms out there??

[zippo30]

Do you guys think that we will expand into space and live on different planets? Where does space end?? Is there an end??? Are we the only ones living in space? Is there Extraterestrial lifeforms out there??

To say we are alone, is well, stupid. Just think, say that even 25 percent of the stars in the sky are not binary stars (meaning they do not orbit eachother), then that is God knows how many seperate solar systems, with an equal amount of chances for a planet to be at the right distance for life to be sustained. But, unless we make contact soon, I don't think we will. The universe is rapidly expanding (the red shift, background radiation- evidence), and the nearest galaxy, at the moment, is 2 million light years away, it's a long shot.

I do think we will expand into space eventually. When the Sun evolves into a red giant, which is not anytime soon, Mars will be the new Earth, so to speak. That means it will be at the right distance for water to not evaporate, and not freeze, and the right distance for an atmospher to not be burnt awa (IE: Mercury).

I believe that after Mars is not an option, we are not screwed. One of Jupiter's Galilean moons, Europa, has frozen water, or something like water. Our best bet to continue life is there, possibly under-water?

Just my two cents.

[LaxGuru27]

Its not going to happen. The Earth is the only place in our solar system that we can realistically sustain life on.

That means you would have to travel outside the solar system. Seeing as its mathmatically impossible to travel at or above the speed of light, and the technology will most likely never be around to travel anywhere near that area, I think its safe to say that its never going to happen.

I think its safe to say that your wrong my friend. There have been more tech. advances in the last 100 years then ever in history. Im just saying i would be shocked if that within mine and your life time going past our solar system will be possible.

[bloodilax977]

why could you make one thread out of the two you just made?? your wasting..uh..space.

[zippo30]

I think its safe to say that your wrong my friend. There have been more tech. advances in the last 100 years then ever in history. Im just saying i would be shocked if that within mine and your life time going past our solar system will be possible.

We've gone from lack of technology, to decent technology. It's not a spectacular advancement. We don't have robots, or flying cars, or good-looking women that can clean (ZING).

But, Laxmiddie is right to a point. Earth is the only place we can sustain life on in our solar system, AT THE MOMENT. As the sun gets larger, the Earth will no longer be inhabitable, Mars will be, but water would be a problem. I suppose that after a while Mars will be warm enough to support rain like Earth does, but not for a long time. Our only realistic situation on Mars are man-made colonies, in what? Weather controlled domes? I have no idea there.

[LaxGuru27]

We've gone from lack of technology, to decent technology. It's not a spectacular advancement. We don't have robots, or flying cars, or good-looking women that can clean (ZING).

But, Laxmiddie is right to a point. Earth is the only place we can sustain life on in our solar system, AT THE MOMENT. As the sun gets larger, the Earth will no longer be inhabitable, Mars will be, but water would be a problem. I suppose that after a while Mars will be warm enough to support rain like Earth does, but not for a long time. Our only realistic situation on Mars are man-made colonies, in what? Weather controlled domes? I have no idea there.


And there you have the story line of every anime I've ever watched, Anyway, i honestly believe that sooner or later man will inhabit other planets besides earth.

[TheKOB]

That is, unless, you find a way to produce an infinite amount of force to deal with the infinite amount of mass created while approaching the speed of light. Then you have to deal with how you are going to keep someone actually alove on a craft that is severely distorting time as it travels.

That' a theory, not a fact. When we get that fast, then we can figure that out.

That being said, I do believe that we'll eventually colonize other planets, that there is life on other planet, etc. It's only a matter of time and technology.

[zippo30]

That' a theory, not a fact. When we get that fast, then we can figure that out.

That being said, I do believe that we'll eventually colonize other planets, that there is life on other planet, etc. It's only a matter of time and technology.

You're failing to remember that the universe is expanding as we speak, very rapidly. The only way we could communicate, is sending messages faster than light. How can we do that? I don't think technology will ever surpass the speed of light.

[ShermanLax607]

As i posted in other thread, no limit, infinte potential, infinite matter, infinte space

end of story. We will never see the end of space because 1) There isnt one 2) we r going to get whiped out even if there was 3) technology will never be that good to travel at light speed for millions of years 4) well there is no 4

[HdGLaxWarrior]

You're failing to remember that the universe is expanding as we speak, very rapidly. The only way we could communicate, is sending messages faster than light. How can we do that? I don't think technology will ever surpass the speed of light.

We are transmitting messages into space. So if there is someone one, somewhere out there, they will get the message. I dont remember when my science teacher told me they sent them. But if I remember correctly. They havent made it past the first star closest to earth at the rate they are traveling.

[laxrat22]

you know as i read this i realize this is a pointless discussion because all this stuff will happen (if it does) millions of years after we are dead.

[ttacka]

^ depressing yet so true..makes me mad when i think about it actually...

[TheKOB]

Its also a mathmatically proven theory.

if it was proven, it wouldn't be called a theory.

[TheKOB]

You're failing to remember that the universe is expanding as we speak, very rapidly. The only way we could communicate, is sending messages faster than light. How can we do that? I don't think technology will ever surpass the speed of light.


Just because our science and technology NOW tell us we can't doesn't mean we won't be able to in the future.

The universe expanding (and how fast) is just another theory....why would we need to send out messages faster than the speed of light?

This is kinda dumb...a bunch of people with rudimentary knowledge of physics and space debating this kind of stuff (me included).

[AZReDWiNG]

if it was proven, it wouldn't be called a theory.

"Theory" doesn't equate "unproven".

http://wilstar.com/theories.htm

I will answer this when I come back..

[stegmakk]

Everyone that is saying it will take millions of years...no...a few hundred to thousand yes...but by then will the human race still be around...
In like 5000 years we have gone from caves and spears and rolling rocks to hydrogen cars, spaceflight, etc...
As far as will we ever colonize different planets...yes...but at first domes so we can get the hang of it...hell...we are halfway there with the spacestation project...people are living in space for months...we first need to figure out how that affects our bodies first...

[laxfolife24]

i know that they just developed a rocket ship/jet that takes you to space and back in 1 day but they are sitll working out the details. it was on the news a few months ago and it is going to cost somewherE around a million dollars IN THE FIRST FEW YEARS.

[MainLax28]

Today a japanese travel agency announced that they are going to give trips to the space station for 2.2 billion yen, orbit the moon for 11 billion yen, and experience 0 gravity at 100km for a mere 11 million yen

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050818/sc_nm/space_japan_tourism_dc

[TheKOB]

"Theory" doesn't equate "unproven".

http://wilstar.com/theories.htm

I will answer this when I come back..


I doesn't equal proven either. Like stegs pointed out, how many of the advances that we've got today would be deemed impossible just 50 years ago?

It's a theory based on the best means that we have at our disposal RIGHT NOW. That's not to say that we don't make some scientific discovery that blows it out of the water...

[LaxGuru27]

Everyone that is saying it will take millions of years...no...a few hundred to thousand yes...but by then will the human race still be around...
In like 5000 years we have gone from caves and spears and rolling rocks to hydrogen cars, spaceflight, etc...
As far as will we ever colonize different planets...yes...but at first domes so we can get the hang of it...hell...we are halfway there with the spacestation project...people are living in space for months...we first need to figure out how that affects our bodies first...

Not to mention the Bio-Dome projects, If they can build a dome, ANs sustain Life in it for 2 years with out any resourses from the out side world, then why couldnt they do so on like mars.

[isuckatlax]

it blows my mind to think about space and whats out there and how big, its ridicuklouse

[TheKOB]

Unless you were talking about it being mathmatically proven.

Now you're just arguing semantics....it hasn't been proven in any real sense. There's no way either one of us can be sure they're right.

I have been known to live 5000 years out of spite to tell someone "I told you so"....fair warning.

[Frndlefire]

When the Sun evolves into a red giant, which is not anytime soon, Mars will be the new Earth, so to speak. That means it will be at the right distance for water to not evaporate, and not freeze, and the right distance for an atmospher to not be burnt awa (IE: Mercury).

Go re-read your astronomy book... When the sun becomes a red giant it will have a circumfrence equal to earth's orbit...we're toast. And while I don't know about mars then being the right distance away to have water, it doesn't matter. Mars pretty much lost it's magnetic field a long time ago (something impossible to fix) which then caused its atmosphere to be almost completely stripped away by particles from the sun which would normally be blocked by the magnetic field (it retains a very slight atmosphere of CO2, but almost non-existant). Without an atmosphere you can't have water because there is nothing to trap the heat in during the day which causes extremely hot daytime temps and extremely low nighttime temps (think 700+ in the day and -160 at night). So when all the water gets vaporized (and just constant evaporation) during the day it will just get blown out into space. (side note: it is magnetic fields which allow planets to retain atmosphere's, not their distance form the sun. It doesn't get "burned away".) anyway...we'll be long dead before we have to worry about the life cycle of the sun and it's effects on us.

While I think that it is an impossibility for us to be the only form of intelligent life, I think that there is no way we are ever going to come into contact with another. The distances are just way too great. I am unsure about realistically traveling outside of our solar system. If we do it will be by some manner that we just couldnt comprehend/understand at this point. (side note: Einstein didn't say that you couldn't travel faster than the speed of light, he just said you couldn't accellerate to the speed of light.)

yes there is an end, but it is impossible to know where it is.
yes, there is a center of the universe, it is also impossible to know where it is.
I could go into a blerb about why... but i dont really feel like typing all that out... it's difficult to try and explain to someone you're talking to.

[SDPirate]

well instead of debting if its possible u guys culd just answer the question...

me id probably just live on earth. doesnt get much better than california

[LaXDaVe]

me id probably just live on earth. doesnt get much better than california

Until you guys sink or break apart or w/e the hell is supposed to happen to Cali. lol.

[SDPirate]

yea but then we'll just join up with hawaii....and alaska can come too...

[zippo30]

well instead of debting if its possible u guys culd just answer the question...

me id probably just live on earth. doesnt get much better than california

This has to be the most ignorant statement I've read on any forum. Telling us to stop having intelligent conversations, which seem to be a rareity on forums these days. Then secondly, his question was do you think, not would you. Honestly, grow up dude. Even if it was off topic you should've been praising us for having the mental capacity to understand, and theorize about subjects other than the quality of living in California.

[crazylegs]

. Even if it was off topic you should've been praising us for having the mental capacity to understand.


Ya okay there poindexter, everyone on this forum is gonna get down and praise you because you love martians, I'm sure you've been in contact with alien life forms for years, through a cardboard tube and an unplugged microphone in your mom's basement. Just because you think your neighbor is a martian and that porta john near your house is their spaceship, doesn't give you the right to be diss'n people like that. Try going outside sometime everybody walking the streets isn't an alien trying to steal your information. :loser: :loser: :loser:


P.S. California is awesome

[swordsman]

Wow. I believe in alien life but w/o a stargate there is no way we are getting to space to see the Go'auld and asgard anytime soon buddy.

[_lax4life_]

I heard in 2010 something will happen. I don't quite remember but i think it had to do with space.

[HdGLaxWarrior]

Not in our or our childrens lifetime. It'll just take to many technological advancements that we arent going to have in that timespan.

[moondog]

Too many problems on Earth right now.

We gotta clean up home first--

But yes...I firmly believe that realities exist independently of human representation.--You don't have to love postmodernism or metaphysical realism to believe that.

[stegmakk]

Actually...in thinking about it further...I doubt we would UNLESS we screw over the earth beyond all repair...
The world revolves around $$$$
And to colonize...yet alone put an experimental building on another planet would take LOADS of cash...

[BTlaxripper]

The shape of the galaxy is debatable. Some people think it is shaped like earth (not a sphere, but more like a football with the tips rounded off), Stephen Hawking believes it is shaped like a pringle, which is where the infinity symbol comes from, a sideways 8.

The universe is constantly expanding, and will continue to expand until it begins to collapse under the forces of its own gravity.

I used to have a bookmark explaining all of this but it got erased.

I don't think we will colonize other planets. All the resources we need, use, and know how to use are right here. Go up to the moon and try to make steel, you'll need oxygen, Iron ore, etc. Those don't exist on the moon.

[James]

I think we will have to go to other planets at the rate we are destroying ours but i dont think its in the near future♣

[Frndlefire]

We gotta clean up home first-
I agree, however I don't see it happening. We are far too hedonistic of a species. We will continue to do what we have always done because there will always be powerful people that don't give a whoey (god it's awkward not swearing)We may someday colonize space, in fact I think our existance as a species relies on it. I have no doubt that we will eventually rape our earth to a great enough degree that we will just tip that ecological last domino and our earth will die. Coming up to that point we will have to figure out how to move into space or we will become extinct.

on a side note: the most likely places for us to move to would be the moon, mars, and Europa (one of the moons of jupiter)

[The Chariot]

I heard in 2010 something will happen. I don't quite remember but i think it had to do with space.

Yeah, this is some proverb out of some Islam text that predicts the demise of us all (or just America, yeah real subtle, Muhammad). Islam text isnt predicting spit.

[Frndlefire]

Yeah, this is some proverb out of some Islam text that predicts the demise of us all (or just America, yeah real subtle, Muhammad). Islam text isnt predicting spit.
didn't someone also post the idea that somewhere around that time the Mayan calendar ends which shows the end of days?

[_lax4life_]

Since this thread is talking about space, does anyone know where I can get a good telescope? Like one where i can see stars and planets and stuff?