POLL: Rap vs. Rock

[TRELAX]

Which do you like better. Feel free to specify sub-genres like punk rock or battle rap or whatever.

[Lax4Ever]

I hate rap and love rock. All rock is good to me the older stuff is the best but newer groups like Linkin Park are really good too.

[bigDman]

hate rap love rock

[Stopper22]

I like both actully. I listen to both of them all the time. TRELAX mind if i add a poll for that?

[laxfreghtrain]

rock, but its gotta be classic rock. zepplin, ACDC, zz top, etc. etc. i like a little of the rock thats out now, but classic rock is my favorite music

[TRELAX]

go ahead, stopper.

[Stopper22]

Originally posted by TRELAX
go ahead, stopper. thanks i did. One thing i have to say about music tho, i hate how some people go so crazy about it. So many people judge people jsut on music they like, and everything. Alot of people i tlak to about music cant belive i like both and listen to both all the time. I think if alot of people would open up there minds a bit, some would like both, they both got there strong points.

[TRELAX]

Exactly, I like rock for its music and rap for its lyrics.
I agree, though, there are too many ignorant, judgemental people out there.

[cloo24]

i love both i like all music everything has a different style i don't like hardcore metal where all they do is scream i think it's kinda weird

[MontclairLax]

rap is sick bra, i dont like rock much(i live near the ghetto, two blocks away)

[WestSideLa X eR]

i like both, usually ppl that listen to rock hate rap and the other way around, but some people like both

the only music i dont like is country and techno

[MontclairLax]

me 2

[montclairmiddie]

rap is much better than rock

[Dan]

and remember kids...
you can't spell crap without rap.

so even though i accidently clicked on the rap button, rock is far superior. mainly alternative rock, classic rock, and jimmy paige. oh man, jimmy paige. holy craaaaaaap, he's a crazy one.

[GIattack]

rock 2 get pumped up

[MontclairLax]

love rap, ruff ryders gets me pumped, but jimi hendrix is ill

[cuse10d]

i cant stand rap, so im definetly goin with rock on this one. metallica, ac dc, zeppelin, alice in chains. all good

[fat mike]

yeah jam bands are the best and reggae

[enjoi]

Originally posted by Lax4Ever
I hate rap and love rock. All rock is good to me the older stuff is the best but newer groups like Linkin Park are really good too.

Funny as how Linkin Park Raps... So you dislike Linkin park?

Originally posted by cloo24
i love both i like all music everything has a different style i don't like hardcore metal where all they do is scream i think it's kinda weird

Yea same here... I especially like techno/dance/electronica. PM if you need some good stuff.

[QuickStyx]

Im gonna have to go rock, but i never down on rap, whatever gets you movin man. I also LOVE the jazz, ill be straight up, the old style Coltrane and Duke Ellington is raw. Also Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. It might be cause i play the sax :-/ hum....

[laxbabe2121]

linkin park doesn't really rap, they attempt to rap, but it doesn't really sound like rap. but they're my favorite band, but as far as music choice goes... country is my favorite. that reminds me of what happened last night,. i was working out in the free weights room at the gym, and they just installed this sound system, so of course... rap is always on to get you pumped up. well i walked in, and there were like 15 guys in there, and so it was really crowded, so i just went into the back room, and changed it to a country station! and after oh... 5 minutes, the whole room was cleared out except for me and the guy that offered to spot me. funny how no one likes rap.

[laxstar003]

i definitely like rock better ..there are only a few rappers that i like.

[LatinBabe]

it really depends on what mood I am in, both have their ups and downs.

when Im feeling pretty good, the determining factor is what CD i left in the player last!

when i dont feel so hot, its all rock all the time here!

[Charcodaylax]

how can yall say rap???
all there is to it is get the lyrics from your agents and you have money up the wazoo
rock is about getting there from scratch and making your own path by working for it. And the lyrics make sense:WTF: I know it's hard to believe. Too many people try to be popular but whatever floats your boat
best rock band ever STONES

[Moxie990]

how can yall say rap???
all there is to it is get the lyrics from your agents and you have money up the wazoo
rock is about getting there from scratch and making your own path by working for it. And the lyrics make sense:WTF: I know it's hard to believe. Too many people try to be popular but whatever floats your boat
best rock band ever STONES


stupidest comment ever to bring back an old thread with ...

[BTlaxripper]

I like both.
I tend to listen to more rock though. But everyonce and a while I'll buy a rap CD.
I'll listen to anything pretty much though.
I don't like teen hard rock like Trapt and Hoobastank and Three Days Grace stuff like that. Shins, Boston, ACDC, Postal Service, DCFC, Eagles, Coldplay, Incubus, Bob Marley, 50 Cent, DMB, Eminem, Jay-Z, Franz Ferdinand, Green Day, Guns & Roses, JET, Killers, Lil Scrappy, Los Lonely Boys, Maroon 5, Modest Mouse, Mos Def, NERD, Nirvana, Oasis, Pearl Jam, Pink Floyd, Queen, RHCP, TI, Stroke 9, Tenacious D, Third Eye Blind, U2, Van Morrison, Velvet Revolver

all that stuff is on my iPod--- very diverse if I say so myself.

[The Chariot]

I like a ton of genres of music. I don't hate rap. I just don't really like the new, flashy kind.

Nas, Jay-Z, Dre, Snoop, Eminem are all cool in my book.

[AXL]

like some rock, rap is so much more chill though.

[WaRriorInVein]

and remember kids...
you can't spell crap without rap.

so even though i accidently clicked on the rap button, rock is far superior. mainly alternative rock, classic rock, and jimmy paige. oh man, jimmy paige. holy craaaaaaap, he's a crazy one.

Hes good... but not the best. Didnt he write most of Zeppelins stuff? Zeppelin is among my top 5 favorite groups

[stxbionic42]

rock, but its gotta be classic rock. zepplin, ACDC, zz top, etc. etc. i like a little of the rock thats out now, but classic rock is my favorite music


thats like me exactly.

[mdawg]

i like the new sort of folk rock(if thats a genre) like guster and dispatch

[Despise Purity]

Rock, whether it is classic or hard. Usually I only name bands I tend to listen on a normal basis, but I do actually like so of the older stuff as well, I just dont listen to it while driving. However, I do have some, not a lot but some on itunes. I am more into the hard music, like where they scream into the mic and jump around.

[enjoi]

how can yall say rap???
all there is to it is get the lyrics from your agents and you have money up the wazoo
rock is about getting there from scratch and making your own path by working for it. And the lyrics make sense:WTF: I know it's hard to believe. Too many people try to be popular but whatever floats your boat
best rock band ever STONES

If i could, i would punch you in the stomach for being an idiot.

I bet someone hasn't heard any Sage Francis, and doesn't think into lyrics.

Rock is not getting ANYTHING from scratch. You're... just an idiot.

[mcqdman]

rap =
Retards
Attemping
Poetry
rock is awesome
AC/DC, Guns N' Roses, Rush, Hendrix, Queen, Bob Marley, Def Leppard, Pink Floyd

[enjoi]

rap =
Retards
Attemping
Poetry
rock is awesome
AC/DC, Guns N' Roses, Rush, Hendrix, Queen, Bob Marley, Def Leppard, Pink Floyd

You're an idiot as well.

Guns N' Roses sucks. Axel is the equivelent to a crybabys.
I also have 5 words for you:
Chinese Democracy will never happen.

[mcqdman]

Now they suck. their last good album was use your illusion .axl ruined everything. after slash left it all went downhill. The music up until about 1992 or so was awesome. But now its just axl and his puppets.

[enjoi]

Now they suck. their last good album was use your illusion .axl ruined everything. after slash left it all went downhill. The music up until about 1992 or so was awesome. But now its just axl and his puppets.

No, from first to last it sucked.

Motley Crue was much better, than again, i dislike almost all those Hair metal bands of the late '70s to early and mid '90s Only AC/DC was any good, and The Darkness (but they are '04).
It was a true low point in music history, and is only beat by the pop music of the '80s.:whyme:

Oh and i was calling you an idiot about your little acronym.

[AXL]

Raine & mcqdman, you need to grow up. Whats up with bashing on other peoples musical preferances? It just makes you look stupid. Say you dont like it, but when you make these queer little acronyms and stuff all it says to people is that you are close minded. Music has different purposes for different people. Its a way of accomplishing a short term phsycological goal, and everyone has different goals.

[enjoi]

Raine & mcqdman, you need to grow up. Whats up with bashing on other peoples musical preferances? It just makes you look stupid. Say you dont like it, but when you make these queer little acronyms and stuff all it says to people is that you are close minded. Music has different purposes for different people. Its a way of accomplishing a short term phsycological goal, and everyone has different goals.

That was over a year ago.

[The Chariot]

Raine & mcqdman, you need to grow up. Whats up with bashing on other peoples musical preferances? It just makes you look stupid. Say you dont like it, but when you make these queer little acronyms and stuff all it says to people is that you are close minded. Music has different purposes for different people. Its a way of accomplishing a short term phsycological goal, and everyone has different goals.

Stop using "queer" as an adjective.

It just makes you look stupid.

[jedimasterPIMP]

I can stand rap, but I love rock. I do like old school rap though, theres just something about it.

[HdGLaxWarrior]

Rock, but I listen to good rap, Jay-Z, and the Chronic, Snoop and Dre back in the day...

[enjoi]

Rock, but I listen to good rap, Jay-Z, and the Chronic, Snoop and Dre back in the day...

Snoop and Dre are mediocre, good at best.

Little Brother, 9th Wonder, Foreign Exchange, Rjd2, Definitive Jux (label), MC Paul Barman (graduated from Cornell i believe, one song is just one huge palindrome)... the list could go on and on....

[zak]

You cant say that Snoop and Dre are mediocre. The two together have done so much for the genre as a whole, and have laid down some darn good tracks along the way. NWA, if you get past the gangster image, really put a whole new face on rap. Or at least "new" in the popular MTV sense of the term. Sure it may have been all cash money hoes, but it was also about rising up from the ghetto. Theres some brilliance in their songs. And Snoop smoked mad weed.

[enjoi]

You cant say that Snoop and Dre are mediocre. The two together have done so much for the genre as a whole, and have laid down some darn good tracks along the way. NWA, if you get past the gangster image, really put a whole new face on rap. Or at least "new" in the popular MTV sense of the term. Sure it may have been all cash money hoes, but it was also about rising up from the ghetto. Theres some brilliance in their songs. And Snoop smoked mad weed.

Idk, they are the predecessors to the whole mainstream of hip-hop, but then again they can't be blamed directly for these "Phony rappers, who do not write, Phony Rappers, who do not excite.... Bla bla bla thats what he said."

I like the "alternative" hip-hop more than mainstream. I won't deny the significence of Dr. Dre or N.W.A. in terms of bringing the more laid back west coast rhyming style but as individuals, they are not that great. There are much better producers out there right now, but then again, we have much more technology and new techinques than back in the day. In fact we have exclusively software producers (9th Wonder and FREAKING FRUITY LOOPS! FRUITY LOOPS! it gives me hope. :P)

[Tex71]

Dr Dre 50 nas jayz run dmc biggy pac snoop eminem they all are awsom but for getting pumped for a game i listen to rock so i like both i just prefere rap over rock because it has a great flow

[MassLax25]

I like classic rock and jam bands and that's about it. I've never really enjoyed listening to rap.

[Charcodaylax]

well i'm sure rappers have a tough time getting to the top.
maybe that was stupid but i don't understand rap at all...i can't even understand what they say half the time (no i'm not deaf or retarted)
but if you can explain to me how you enjoy it i'm all ears...and how bout you post something positive for once :loser:

[PacersguyUSA]

I prefer rap, underground rap to be specific, but I will listen to some mainstream stuff if it has a good instrumental. I'll listen to acoustic rock too. I find rap to be more creative.

[PacersguyUSA]

Idk, they are the predecessors to the whole mainstream of hip-hop, but then again they can't be blamed directly for these "Phony rappers, who do not write, Phony Rappers, who do not excite.... Bla bla bla thats what he said."

I like the "alternative" hip-hop more than mainstream. I won't deny the significence of Dr. Dre or N.W.A. in terms of bringing the more laid back west coast rhyming style but as individuals, they are not that great. There are much better producers out there right now, but then again, we have much more technology and new techinques than back in the day. In fact we have exclusively software producers (9th Wonder and FREAKING FRUITY LOOPS! FRUITY LOOPS! it gives me hope. :P)


You can make some good stuff with fruity loops. I don't use it, but I know quite a few people that do, and they make hot stuff, better than 9th Wonder.

[Charcodaylax]

:wtf: underground rap

[PacersguyUSA]

:wtf: underground rap

Slightly underground would be stuff like Talib Kweli, Jurassic 5

More underground stuff would be stuff like Jedi Mind Tricks, Immortal Technique, Aesop Rock, Sage Francis

Superunderground stuff would be guys on soundclick.com like Tempest, Vs Styles, Tha Kid, Treazy, and World Fame, that only have mixtapes comming out in certain regions.

[OutBurst]

I am not too big of a fan of rap if I must say.

[brlacrosse50]

woohoo go rock! 58%

[zak]

well i'm sure rappers have a tough time getting to the top.
maybe that was stupid but i don't understand rap at all...i can't even understand what they say half the time (no i'm not deaf or retarted)
but if you can explain to me how you enjoy it i'm all ears...and how bout you post something positive for once :loser:

Sometimes man its just the lyrics and how they flow. I mean its hard enough to say something clever in a song, but to do it to a beat and rhyming, and then on top of that convey a consistent message. Some rappers just have such a flow, each word fits the next one, the beat in the background, and you just get absorbed in the lyrics. The really good songs just take you into a different world, you get lost in the bass and the rhymes, you feel like you know exactly where this guys coming from cause it sounds like anything he says is just right. Its not how good of a guitarist he is, or if hes got a good drummer or him running around screaming or whatever. Its just one guy, putting what hes thinking out there, and hopefully he does it ellegantly.

[wayzatalax2008]

Dr Dre 50 nas jayz run dmc biggy pac snoop eminem they all are awsom but for getting pumped for a game i listen to rock so i like both i just prefere rap over rock because it has a great flow
dre dre and fitty are the shizznit!!

[Radioactive Ape]

Just remember, you can't spell crap without rap.

[AXL]

Just remember, you can't spell crap without rap.
REPOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AXL]

Sometimes man its just the lyrics and how they flow. I mean its hard enough to say something clever in a song, but to do it to a beat and rhyming, and then on top of that convey a consistent message. Some rappers just have such a flow, each word fits the next one, the beat in the background, and you just get absorbed in the lyrics. The really good songs just take you into a different world, you get lost in the bass and the rhymes, you feel like you know exactly where this guys coming from cause it sounds like anything he says is just right. Its not how good of a guitarist he is, or if hes got a good drummer or him running around screaming or whatever. Its just one guy, putting what hes thinking out there, and hopefully he does it ellegantly.
ya, to elaborate on what makes a tight rapper, look at 2Pac or Biggie Smalls. listen to any of their songs. They suck.

good for their time? Yes. Good to people that dont listen to the lyrics? Yes. Good to people that listen to the words? Yes. But good to the people that listen for flow, the true defining factor of a good rapper, theyre the worst. They use hardley any multi's, and when they do theyre choppy as hell anyways. Every word is on beat, and most every line has the same number of syllables.

Now listen to any Jay-Z song. Jay is one of the greatest rappers in mainstream rap. Listen to how he flows. His lines are off beat, but he still manages to make it flow. His flow changes line by line, he uses plenty of multi's, hes inconsistent...on purpose. And it all comes together perfectly.

The you could look at any song by Grafh and you'd see hes one of the best alive.

[GBaschski]

I like some rap in small doses, but Rock is all that I listen to. I like Linkin Park alot, and they do rap a bit, so that's about as far as Rap goes for me.
I like all kinds of rock...folk, hard, classic.
Most of the rap today is just...stupid.

The hoes, the pimps, the booze and the drugs...That, mixed with some bad grammar and a pinch of actual music in the background...that's today's rap.

[enjoi]

I like some rap in small doses, but Rock is all that I listen to. I like Linkin Park alot, and they do rap a bit, so that's about as far as Rap goes for me.
I like all kinds of rock...folk, hard, classic.
Most of the rap today is just...stupid.

The hoes, the pimps, the booze and the drugs...That, mixed with some bad grammar and a pinch of actual music in the background...that's today's rap.

Not underground. Thats most of the Mainstream.

[zak]

ya, to elaborate on what makes a tight rapper, look at 2Pac or Biggie Smalls. listen to any of their songs. They suck.

good for their time? Yes. Good to people that dont listen to the lyrics? Yes. Good to people that listen to the words? Yes. But good to the people that listen for flow, the true defining factor of a good rapper, theyre the worst. They use hardley any multi's, and when they do theyre choppy as hell anyways. Every word is on beat, and most every line has the same number of syllables.

Now listen to any Jay-Z song. Jay is one of the greatest rappers in mainstream rap. Listen to how he flows. His lines are off beat, but he still manages to make it flow. His flow changes line by line, he uses plenty of multi's, hes inconsistent...on purpose. And it all comes together perfectly.

The you could look at any song by Grafh and you'd see hes one of the best alive.


Not at allllll. Your telling me biggie has no style, no flow? Flow doesnt mean on or off beat. Like eminem, the man just makes words fit together that shouldnt, its crazy. Its just a different style though. Doesnt mean they dont have flow. Every word on beat is just as good. It gives biggie such a tightness with the music, the beat and his rhymes go like one. And the syllable thing just isnt true.

"My team supreme, stay clean (6 syllables)
Triple beam lyrical dream, I be that (10)
Cats you see at all events bent (7)
Gats in holsters girls on shoulders" (8)

How he rhymes around the beat doesnt mean he has a bad flow. Now i know hes not especially known for having the most amazing flow, but thats not a bad thing. Ever hear of the word stucatto?

[PacersguyUSA]

If you like flow, then you have to check out Chali 2na of Jurassic 5:


Jurassic 5 - A Day at the Races
Yeahhh, your majesty, word flash photography
Third class economy, blade slashed your artery
Nerve gassed anatomy, blurred past dramatically
Herbs hashed, my word splash packed agility
Never predictability
Manouvers of mind fully designed cause I'm true to the rhyme
We do the sublime, crackin yo' backbone
Attackin you wack clones
Vernacular right and exact, capital rap zone
that come back verbal assault rifle (ahhhhh)
We fight like Stokely Carmichael
Nope! We just like you
We broke and ain't no tellin what we might do
Ain't no joke
Provoke the right to reverse to seek mercy
with the King Asiatic and Percy P
Ain't heard the worst of me, until your chest 3-D
Spit venom and burn your body like a STD


or Royce Da 5'9:



Royce Da 5'9 - Boom
I'm the verbal-spit Smith Wesson
I unload with sick spit the quick wick could split a split-second
Bomb with a lit wick expression
You here a tick tick then you testin..
My saliva and spit can split thread into fiber and bits
So trust me, I'm as live as it gets
Everybody claimin they the best and head the throne
Since B.I.G is gone, if you ask me, they +Dead Wrong+

[UNCdefense]

some rap is alright, but a lot of it jsuts sound like mumbo jumbo crap, & theres really no musical talent involved at all, i mean they're not singing at all, they're chanting/speaking & other then Nappy Roots all of the beats are digitalized so i'd go with rock anyday

[Krypt0M4g!c]

Metal, metalcore, hardcore (is ok.. depends who it is), alternative is ok, Im not too big a fan of commercial rock (Velvet Revolver, Foo Fighters, Seether) it still beats rap, Progressive rock and metal like Dream Theater, Symphony X, and Opeth is pretty awesome.

Trivium, Unearth, As I Lay Dying, Metallica, Killswitch Engage, Opeth, 311, Jimi Hendrix, Zeppelin, Coheed and Cambria, Dream Theater, Symphony X, Avenged Sevenfold are a few of my faves.

Mainstream hip-hop and rap is the plague that's been spread across America. Too bad people don't know what good music is. Now im not talking about underground rap and ****.. because one of my best friends will melt the face off of any mainstream rapper. His lyrics are well thought out and Genius to say the least. He is amazing. check him out

http://www.myspace.com/theowtrajusone <------- NOW THAT is good rap

[mcdonoghLAX02]

Rap is a joke. The only Rap worth listening to is Public Enemy, RunDMC, and Beastie Boys.

[Dan]

RunDMC is hip-hop. DJ Shadow is cool!

[HCrum05]

I love rock and hate rap. I enjoy all rock but I'm starting to lean a lot towards punk/emo, even though I used to hate it haha.

[laxfolife24]

i really dont care for either, but if i had to chose, i would pick rock.

[tomahawks11]

i like rap because it is a lot more creative than some rock these days. even tho a lot of these guys talk about gettin shot all the time some of the rappers are VERY creative. i do like rock but i think rap is better

[MinnetonkaLax]

im a rap type of person cuz im from MN and im just crazy like that, in all seriousness tho, both are great and i like to mix it up

[Trilax03]

i like both but i'd lean more towards rap

[UNCdefense]

i like both but i'd lean more towards rap

^noone's perfect......rap :whyme: :ahhno:
i dont know what to say.....it just......whats the word.......SUCKS

[hjr432]

70's-90's rock > Any Rap era

[The Chariot]

70's-90's rock > Any Rap era

The 80's was the worst era in rock period. Other genres did well, but 80's was the most unoriginal, bland era in rock. It was a joke. Van Halen, Bon Jovi, Whitesnake etc. are all terrible. And grunge wasn't much better (90's).

[Krypt0M4g!c]

The 80's was the worst era in rock period. Other genres did well, but 80's was the most unoriginal, bland era in rock. It was a joke. Van Halen, Bon Jovi, Whitesnake etc. are all terrible. And grunge wasn't much better (90's).
Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, and Pantera were the best things to come out of the 80's. None of that pansy Ballad rock like Bon jovi.. or other crappy rock like AC/DC. YEA I SAID IT! AC/DC sucks.

[The Chariot]

Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, and Pantera were the best things to come out of the 80's. None of that pansy Ballad rock like Bon jovi.. or other crappy rock like AC/DC. YEA I SAID IT! AC/DC sucks.

And I still think the 80's were terrible, regardless of Metallica, Slayer or Pantera. AC/DC does suck though.

[enjoi]

^noone's perfect......rap :whyme: :ahhno:
i dont know what to say.....it just......whats the word.......SUCKS
Yup its just been confirmed you are a crappy poster.

Please, stop posting in the Open forum.

I would repost all my old arguements, but i'm done arguing with a bunch of 12 year olds who are to ignorant to appreciate any music aside what they see on MTV.

IF you would like some REAL music discussion check out: http://ilx.wh3rd.net/newquestions.php?board=2

Thats where a ton of Pitchfork Media reviewers, Allmusic.com reviewers, Rolling Stone, Spin, etc. are. The label A&R's regularly check out the forum as well.

[Krypt0M4g!c]

Yup its just been confirmed you are a crappy poster.

Please, stop posting in the Open forum.

I would repost all my old arguements, but i'm done arguing with a bunch of 12 year olds who are to ignorant to appreciate any music aside what they see on MTV.

So? Maybe some people don't take music so seriously and just casually listen. Does that make them a lesser person? No... but they can't really make a good argument in this thread if they don't know anything... so I see why you are frustrated.

[freestylewalkin]

i like just about any kind of music save country and pop. i have no problem w/ rap but when people let it take over there lives aand start to act "gangster" thats where i draw the line

[mcdonoghLAX02]

i like just about any kind of music save country and pop. i have no problem w/ rap but when people let it take over there lives aand start to act "gangster" thats where i draw the line

good point.

[swordsman]

I like everything except rap and pop.

[laxattack8888]

I love rock n' roll, well yeah I do, but I also do like the bigger names in rap like some Jay-Z, B.I.G, P-diddy, 50 cent, Ludacris, and others, but I do love Aerosmith, the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Kiss, Van Halen, Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Jimi Hendrix, Jeff Beck (Yardbirds), the Who, and others, so I voted that I just like them both. I mean, some is good of each category and some is just bad, so I am just going to say I like them both, give it the benefit of the doubt.

Edit: Krypt0M4g!c, I am disgraced that you even could say that. If you took a few hours and watched the VH1 top 80 Hard Rock bands of all time, you would notice that Slayer was like #70, Megadeth was around #75, Pantera wasn't even listed, and I do like Metallica, which was around #30. Do you know what AC/DC got? #4. I agree 99% with that list that VH1 came up with on that countdown too.

[Krypt0M4g!c]

Edit: Krypt0M4g!c, I am disgraced that you even could say that. If you took a few hours and watched the VH1 top 80 Hard Rock bands of all time, you would notice that Slayer was like #70, Megadeth was around #75, Pantera wasn't even listed, and I do like Metallica, which was around #30. Do you know what AC/DC got? #4. I agree 99% with that list that VH1 came up with on that countdown too.

What does VH1 know? And your going by a countdown? Omgzorz Greenday is #1 on TRL.. theyzz the best. And AC/DC does suck horribly. Their singer sounds like a dying chain smoker, their drummer is pathetic, and they wrote a song about balls. They are not hard rock at all.

[skip0l]

i hate rap, and love rock normally, but if ur gonna get a little banged up n go clubbin, u need to at least know some rap so u dont feel retarded in the club

[WestSideLa X eR]

Thank you enjoi

I would be pissed (OMG lol, can't spell crap without rap), but I blame it all on mtv. The stuff that is considered "rap" today is utter trash. That would be like me saying rock sucks because the only bands I know of are HIM, yellowcard, and maroon 5. Rock lovers would get mighty upset if I said that.

Same thing. Enjoi, you should post up that HUGE list of the definitive underground hip hop artists to listen to.

Check out edan, stones throw records (label), afu-ra, pete rock and c.l. smooth, de la soul, cannibal ox, mf doom, wu-tang, etc.

[tkdlaxer]

punk,punk rock, hardcore, metal core, and some metal!! thats were its all at

[James]

i belive that rap is the worst music ever invented it is so annoying

[jedimasterPIMP]

Ive changed my mind since i first voted in this poll long ago. I was a big fan of rock then, but i started to realize that the new rock that comes out right now is just abosultley terrible (with some exceptions). Rap isn't that bad. When you find a good rapper that you like and get their message it all of a sudden isn't that bad anymore. I like classic rock and rap now and thats pretty much all i listen to (with some exeptions).

[sweet_ceX]

I like both. More rock but im into some rap, mostly underground rap.

[swordsman]

Sometimes man its just the lyrics and how they flow. I mean its hard enough to say something clever in a song, but to do it to a beat and rhyming, and then on top of that convey a consistent message. Some rappers just have such a flow, each word fits the next one, the beat in the background, and you just get absorbed in the lyrics. The really good songs just take you into a different world, you get lost in the bass and the rhymes, you feel like you know exactly where this guys coming from cause it sounds like anything he says is just right. Its not how good of a guitarist he is, or if hes got a good drummer or him running around screaming or whatever. Its just one guy, putting what hes thinking out there, and hopefully he does it ellegantly.


Are you saying there is no beat or rhyming in Rock? I believe without a melody it's called poetry. Rap isn't really music it's urban poetry on a CD.

[swordsman]

Ive changed my mind since i first voted in this poll long ago. I was a big fan of rock then, but i started to realize that the new rock that comes out right now is just abosultley terrible (with some exceptions). Rap isn't that bad. When you find a good rapper that you like and get their message it all of a sudden isn't that bad anymore. I like classic rock and rap now and thats pretty much all i listen to (with some exeptions).

A message about killing and ensalving women? [start sarcasm]I'm sure the suburban youth of America should relate to that.[end sarcasm]

[TweeK]

underground rap? are you kiding?......thats horrible, i think ill go listen to Ashlee Simpson instead. :agree:

[lilloaf1990]

I dont know why, but i used to like rock, but now i like rap.

[Ram-X-manII]

Limiting yourself to one genre is ridiculous. I think everyone can find something they like within every genre. I think its just a need to identify with a group of people who listen to the same music. I like what i consider good rap and i like what i consider good rock/alternative/ any other type of music.
Keep an open mind.

[zak]

Are you saying there is no beat or rhyming in Rock? I believe without a melody it's called poetry. Rap isn't really music it's urban poetry on a CD.

Actually, poetry can have a melody too. Read my post. Lets try to elevate ourselves from simply insulting each other's taste in music too. Try to have opinions instead of lowering yourself like that.

[laxgoalieking]

RUN-DMC, the best of both worlds, that duet with areosmith was off the hook, the video was way crazier. plus they rap over rock not hip hop beats.

[WestSideLa X eR]

A message about killing and ensalving women? [start sarcasm]I'm sure the suburban youth of America should relate to that.[end sarcasm]

You really know about what your talking about right?

Listen to "Leaving the Past" by Immortal Technique, and tell me
it doesn't have meaning


I'm sick of people judging rap based on what they see on MTV. Honestly, if you haven't exposed yourself to REAL hip-hop, and not hip-pop, then don't post like you know what your talking about.
I don't listen to much rock, so I don't generalize the entire genre by whats being played on the radio....because what I hear on the radio is trash

And for you guys that think rap takes no talent?
Making a quality beat, writing up lyrics, making the lyrics actually flow......that takes some serious talent.


So for everytime someone generalizes rap based on MTV, I get to generalize rock based on Maroon 5 :agree:

[ekajsk8er]

RUN-DMC, the best of both worlds, that duet with areosmith was off the hook, the video was way crazier. plus they rap over rock not hip hop beats.

yea that was a good song, but i like the anthrax-public enemy collaboration better.

im mostly into metal, and rock but i like a little bit of rap (run dmc, public enemy, a little bit of tupac)

[dpolehh21]

I'm a fan of GOOD rock and GOOD rap. Crap like fall out boy is terrible, but the shins, sufjan, and older rock is good. And I'm a fan of more underground rap, mf doom ,rjd2, the grouch theyre all great but mainstream rap just isn't very good.

[SJLax12157]

what kidn of rock do you mean, that seems like too general of a topic, if you mean like green day or death cab for cute, then heck no, but if its like dave matthews and better then ezra then definitely.

[blood:)]

:)rockon dude rap is terable

[scruffy221]

hey to find some good unknown music go to

purevolume.com

and search for anything you want, they'll probably have it

[LoveableME]

I dont see much of a style difference in death cab for cutie or green day and better than ezra or Dave Mathew's band.

[franks2089]

Definately rock. Dont hear about women being hoes and such.

And dumb rap songs like lil johns getting low

"o skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet" is not a song.

[enjoi]

Definately rock. Dont hear about women being hoes and such.

And dumb rap songs like lil johns getting low

"o skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet" is not a song.
Yes, Rock doesn't objectify women. Not at all. Not ever. I am 100% sure no rock star has ever thought of using only a woman for her body.

Definetely not. Becuas they are all little angels. :love:

[moondog]

I like the REALLY old school rap and lots of older rock. It's touch to keep things fresh and new--so I guess I like the older stuff--that started things out.

[Dan]

Rap rawks. Rock raps. Yeah yeah. The rap rock stylings of ATDI's One Armed Scissor were cool. My posts are now in ADD format for easier reading for the ADD prone. DMB sucks, okay? My brother loves them and has like a gajillion gigs of their music, but I still have angst for stoney Dave and his band of dancing magicians. If you want a band that jams at their shows, go The Shins because the jams are like 2 minutes on like 2 songs and keep a really tight construction and are enjoyable. It's not ridiculous. Like DMB or Phish.

RJD2 is fun. Hip-hop is fun. Rap is foreign. Rock is lame these days. Stick to indie.

[vroom125]

I like rock more than anything. Not too big on rap. I like all kinds of rock, depends on what mood i'm in, which usually depends on what time of the day it is.

[AleMo]

I like rap like Linkin Park's Mike Shinoda and some Beastie Boys and there is no rock that I don't like.

[GarysGod]

I love both, but I only listen to local bay rap

[zachm90]

I like rock. you can't spell crap without spelling rap.

[enjoi]

I like rock. you can't spell crap without spelling rap.
Thanks for this ignorant post!

Nevermind that theres a whole non-mainstream area of Hip-Hop (rap is what you do, Hip-Hop is the culture) that is intelligent, inventive, and is every bit as good as rock, actually more creative than rock (because of the use of sampling of all genres of music).

BUT HEY WHATEVER.

[zak]

And you cant spell "crack rocks" without rock. Honestly, you may step in crap, and that sucks and all, but crack rocks destroy thousands of families.

[PompLax14]

BET is prolly my favorite channel.

[MNM19]

good ole rock and roll