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PhilWings24
10-02-2005, 04:21 PM
What's the specific rule for charging at the high school level?
It seems to me that its just called when a kid gets knocked over hard, but i know for a fact that has nothing to do with it.
dram183
10-02-2005, 04:42 PM
i think its when you have the ball, and you kinda get a running start and attempt to go through a defender. i guess, in a sense, the opposite of an unnecesary roughness
PhilWings24
10-02-2005, 04:51 PM
i'm pretty sure its a defensive foul. i know in hockey its when you "run through the opponent, not into him" and that its almost never called.
LaxRef
10-02-2005, 05:20 PM
There is no such foul as "charging" in high school or college lacrosse. According to a literal reading of the rules, a player in possession who intentionally runs into an opponent could be called for a ward or an illegal body check, depending on what the official sees. However, in most cases, the defender is also attempting to initiate contact and no call is made. Do a search of the rules and officiating forum for "bull dodge ward" and you'll turn up some past threads on the topic.
GarysGod
10-02-2005, 05:26 PM
when i played junior lacrosse there was a charging call against a my team mate
LaxRef
10-02-2005, 06:26 PM
when i played junior lacrosse there was a charging call against a my team mate
As we are forced to point out from time to time, what one official does or does not call has no bearing on what the rules actually say. In this case, there may have been a special league rule, or the official may have been confused.
However, I can assure you that there is no "charging" foul in either the NCAA or NFHS rules.
laxfan25
10-02-2005, 09:46 PM
About the closest thing you could have to "charging" on the defensive side would be an unnecessary roughness call, if the level of violence on the contaxct exceeded what the official felt was neceassary on a particular play.
For instance on a face-off, I'm going to be very leery of letting wing mans steam in from the wing line and just level that guy that is focused on winging the faceoff.
This call gives discretion to the ref, even though a body check is from the front or side, if it is too severe it can still draw a flag.
dram183
10-02-2005, 10:26 PM
i think theyre all referring to unnecesarry roughness when YOU are in possesion of the ball, like ducking your shoulder down and running over the man guarding you. I think something like it happened in the Maryland Duke semi game where a Maryland player put his shoulder down, hand up and just started ramming through the defensive set, but eventually his momentum made him fall and he got killed by the defense. But, if this was, say, a high school game and the defenseman actually fell over during the "charge" i think this is what some would call a "charge"
sorry if some of my sentences dont make sense, im sleepy
RockStar
10-03-2005, 05:56 AM
Based on experience with box and hockey where there are charging rules:
Charging typically means you lined a guy up, and took more than three steps specifically to hit him. Or, that you left your feet to throw a body hit.
To penalize a vicious charge in field, I guess a ref could use UR or illegal body check if either is applicable.
Laxref_36
10-03-2005, 08:40 AM
Based on experience with box and hockey where there are charging rules:
Charging typically means you lined a guy up, and took more than three steps specifically to hit him. Or, that you left your feet to throw a body hit.
To penalize a vicious charge in field, I guess a ref could use UR or illegal body check if either is applicable.
To reiterate Laxref, there is no "charging" call within either the NFHS, or the NCAA rule books. The equivalent might be, dependent upon circumstances, Unnecesary Roughness. Which can be called on any player (when appropriate) either on the offensive or defensive teams.
3rdPersonPlural
10-03-2005, 10:40 AM
Around here, the only time you get called for charging is when your credit card company notices some unusual activity on your card.
laxfolife24
10-08-2005, 08:35 PM
a charging foul cost my teamm a gamme onceee. but then again it was cali...
auslax_goalie
10-08-2005, 08:38 PM
is aus they have *milkshakes* around with the chargign rule no one really knows what it is. but im guess like what ROCKSTAR said leaving your feet to hit a guy
jktlax
10-15-2005, 11:31 PM
Where in the NCAA or NFHS Rules do you see anything about a player "leaving his feet" to initiate contact?
LaxRef
10-16-2005, 08:30 AM
Where in the NCAA or NFHS Rules do you see anything about a player "leaving his feet" to initiate contact?
I think you're referring to this:
Based on experience with box and hockey where there are charging rules:
Charging typically means you lined a guy up, and took more than three steps specifically to hit him. Or, that you left your feet to throw a body hit.
He doesn't seem to be saying that that's an NCAA or NFHS rule, but that it might be in box or hockey.
Anyway, it's all moot, because--as I said before--there is no charging rule in field lacrosse.