Explanation of matching glove rule?

[jaw22]

Can someone elaborate on this rule? I heard that all gloves of a HS team must be team colors, is this true? When does it take effect? Does this mean that you can have any model of yellow gloves if your team's color is yellow, or does it mean you need the same model glove as everyone else on your team?

Also, are goalies exempt?

[Laxref_36]

Can someone elaborate on this rule? I heard that all gloves of a HS team must be team colors, is this true? When does it take effect? Does this mean that you can have any model of yellow gloves if your team's color is yellow, or does it mean you need the same model glove as everyone else on your team?

Also, are goalies exempt?

I mean no disrespect here, but I cant find this rule in either the NFHS or the NCAA rule book regarding the color of gloves. The NFHS book references "Gloves" as Mandatory equipment (and unaltered), but does not specify their color. Color is specified in Jerseys and Under-Jerseys. Compression shorts must be same color of all teammates who choose to wear them (optional equipment). Helmets are mandatory, and according to Section 9 Article 1 subsection "a" (NFHS rule book 2005 page 13). "All players of a team shall wear helmets of the same color."

Hope this helps,

Laxref_36

[LaxRef]

I mean no disrespect here, but I cant find this rule in either the NFHS or the NCAA rule book regarding the color of gloves. The NFHS book references "Gloves" as Mandatory equipment (and unaltered), but does not specify their color. Color is specified in Jerseys and Under-Jerseys. Compression shorts must be same color of all teammates who choose to wear them (optional equipment). Helmets are mandatory, and according to Section 9 Article 1 subsection "a" (NFHS rule book 2005 page 13). "All players of a team shall wear helmets of the same color."

You missed it:

a. Protective Equipment. All players shall wear protective gloves, shoes and jerseys. All players except the designated goalkeeper shall wear shoulder pads and arm pads. The designated goalkeeper shall wear protective goalkeeper equipment (see 1-24-c). The cutting or altering of gloves and shoulder pads is prohibited. All players on a team must wear gloves of the same color.

There's no rule on matching gloves for NFHS lacrosse.

[LaxRef]

Can someone elaborate on this rule? I heard that all gloves of a HS team must be team colors, is this true? When does it take effect? Does this mean that you can have any model of yellow gloves if your team's color is yellow, or does it mean you need the same model glove as everyone else on your team?

Also, are goalies exempt?

It depends whether you're using NCAA or NFHS rules for high school lacrosse. However, some states that use NCAA rules for high school will waive some of these rules like matching gloves, you'll have to check.

In no case does the model of glove have to match, just the color. And I don't think anyone's going to require an exact color match.

Goalies are not exempt.

[NF Lax23----<o)]

Wow, never heard of that. So does that mean no custom helmets? Alot of kids on my team have custom cpro's while most of us rock the old school Cascade. Do they have to go back to the old cascade?

[Attack027]

Has anyone been penalized for this? I think in texas and other states where lacrosse isnt as big as the northeastern states this rule isnt used.

Any refs in the forum ever call a penalty on this? And what is the ruling if not everyone on the team has the same color gloves?

[LaxRef]

Wow, never heard of that. So does that mean no custom helmets? Alot of kids on my team have custom cpro's while most of us rock the old school Cascade. Do they have to go back to the old cascade?

Again, there's no rule saying the model must be the same. The color of the helmets must match, and even then I don't think there's any justification for a penalty if, say, the trim colors don't match exactly, and unless you're an NCAA program I don't even think they'll worry if the colors don't match perfectly.

[LaxRef]

Has anyone been penalized for this? I think in texas and other states where lacrosse isnt as big as the northeastern states this rule isnt used.

Any refs in the forum ever call a penalty on this? And what is the ruling if not everyone on the team has the same color gloves?

Again, gloves have to match for NCAA, not NFHS. Most states that use NCAA for high school don't enforce the matching glove rule.

The matching glove rule is enforced for NCAA and MDIA teams. We try to catch any violations before the game begins and tell the teams to fix them. If I see wrong-color gloves during a game, I'll tell the player to go fix it. However, if the opposing coach catches it and calls for an equipment check--and specifically mentions the gloves--it's a technical foul (possession or 30 seconds).

The same thing would go for a wrong-color helmet: try to catch it before the game, try to fix it during the game, but penalize if you have to.

[b-boy_laxman]

wow i thought that was just the nll and stuff but i dident know it was high school to shoot im trying out next year {when im allowed in grade 8} and my clh2 is black marron and gold{old teams colors} and my team is gold white and blue

[laxfan25]

wow i thought that was just the nll and stuff but i dident know it was high school to shoot im trying out next year {when im allowed in grade 8} and my clh2 is black marron and gold{old teams colors} and my team is gold white and blue
I wouldn't sweat it too much for an 8th grade middle school game. There I'm looking to make sure all the players are adequately protected, and at least have jerseys that are in the same color family. At that age you're dealing with very limited budgets, hand-me-downs and second-hand store equipment, etc. When we get to high school organized programs, let's try to meet the rules. If there is a first-year high school program I would also tend to let them get started, as long as they are properly equipped safety-wise.

[RamblinWreck]

Would someone care to elaborate on the reason for the matching glove rule? Sort of surprised this is enforced for MDIA, as those programs can be just as hand-to-mouth as youth teams.

[eme]

And don't forget that the cut-out hole in the palms must match for the entire team.

[LaxRef]

Would someone care to elaborate on the reason for the matching glove rule? Sort of surprised this is enforced for MDIA, as those programs can be just as hand-to-mouth as youth teams.

They decided to play NCAA rules, and that's what the NCAA rules say (most likely because they want to look good on TV). In general, officials are opposed to a la carte rule selection, so if the MDIA asked for NCAA rules, I guess they got the NCAA rules.

[laxfan25]

Would someone care to elaborate on the reason for the matching glove rule? Sort of surprised this is enforced for MDIA, as those programs can be just as hand-to-mouth as youth teams.

If you speak to the directors of the MDIA, they are very intent on establishing a professional, "virtual-varsity" look and feel to their organization, in order to get away from the club-ball "keg-on-the-sidelines" feel that used to be prevalent. I applaud their efforts. Granted not every squad looks as stylish as Michigan and Lindenwood, but the effort is definitley being made.

[lax4life6]

yeah my high school team last year all had green gloves but they didnt have to be the same model

[justlaxin484]

when did this rule go into affect, my team last year had all kinds of different gloves, but then again i wasnt on varsity last year, even some of the kids on the varsity had differnt color gloves i think

[LaxRef]

when did this rule go into affect, my team last year had all kinds of different gloves, but then again i wasnt on varsity last year, even some of the kids on the varsity had differnt color gloves i think

Are you in high school? If so, go back and read the thread, since we've covered this many times already in this thread.

[KnightsLAXDad]

wow i thought that was just the nll and stuff but i dident know it was high school to shoot im trying out next year {when im allowed in grade 8} and my clh2 is black marron and gold{old teams colors} and my team is gold white and blue

b-boy, don't worry. Those are american HS field rules, not CLA rules. Look at box, there's no matching rules there.

[LaxRef]

b-boy, don't worry. Those are american HS field rules, not CLA rules. Look at box, there's no matching rules there.


AAAAARGH!

They are not American HS field rules, they are American college rules!

You do not have to have matching gloves in NFHS (American High School) lacrosse.

You do need to have matching gloves under NCAA rules (unless you're a state that plays HS lacrosse under NCAA rules, in which case they may ignore this rule).

I don't know how I can say it any more simply!

[KnightsLAXDad]

AAAAARGH!

They are not American HS field rules, they are American college rules!

You do not have to have matching gloves in NFHS (American High School) lacrosse.

You do need to have matching gloves under NCAA rules (unless you're a state that plays HS lacrosse under NCAA rules, in which case they may ignore this rule).

I don't know how I can say it any more simply!


Oops, my bad. Sorry. In any event we use CLA (Canadian Lacrosse Association) rule not NFHS or NCAA, although I am sure that they are probably very close in any event. While not 100% sure, I am pretty confident that there is rule in neither box nor field with regards to matching helmets/gloves. The only one I recall is jerseys.

Besides, it really doesn't make sense at the HS level (US or CAN) to "force" that kind of equipment restrictions where there simply isn't as much money to support it. College/University have a significantly larger budget to do this kind of thing.

[3rdPersonPlural]

AAAAARGH!

They are not American HS field rules, they are American college rules!

I don't know how I can say it any more simply!

I still don't get it. :imparied:

[3rdPersonPlural]

Just tweaking your nose, LR. Out here in the developmental leagues, we turn a blind eye to a player's wardrobe and accessories. I even did a u-12 game between Navy blue and Yale blue jerseys. Calling offsides was a bit of a challenge, as was explaining who got the ball after a loose ball techno, but I soldiered through.

[laxfan25]

I like your attitude 3PP. If it's not safety-related, and they're not playing for the NCAA championship and both teams are fine with things, let's play lacrosse! That's what its all about - not the hokey-pokey. :thumbsup:

[LaxRef]

I like your attitude 3PP. If it's not safety-related, and they're not playing for the NCAA championship and both teams are fine with things, let's play lacrosse! That's what its all about - not the hokey-pokey. :thumbsup:

The problem I have with this sort of thing--two teams playing with essentially the same color jerseys--is that sometimes they still expect you to get all of the calls right. For me, that's too hard to do without being able to differentiate based on jersey color.

In fact, it even drives me nuts when the goalie doesn't match, since I often use the goalie as a key to make sure I know which way we're going.

As to the gloves and helmets, I don't really care unless the league cares. Here, they do, both for MDIA (gloves and helmets) and NFHS (helmets). I try to police these things before the game whenever possible.

[3rdPersonPlural]

Our local MDIA team is UCSB. They have lovely matching equipment. So do the prep schools who've been playing for decades.

However, I'm not donning stripes to get involved with these established programs. I'm contributing to the growth of the sport, which is sparked by youth and developmental leagues. Down here on the ground floor perfection is of less value than flexibility.

A College certified ref I work with on a regular basis contends that high school and youth games are 'less important' than the college stuff he prefers. I disagree. To me, being part of the recipe that creates the committed lacrosse players that you big timers officiate is where the joy is. I'd trade a championship game for a scrimmage between two first year programs anyday. I guess it's all about 'what's my motivation?', isn't it?

[LaxRef]

A College certified ref I work with on a regular basis contends that high school and youth games are 'less important' than the college stuff he prefers.

In some sense, the "stakes" may be higher in the college games, since there's probably more prestige associated with winning the MDIA championship than the state HS championship, at least outside of Maryland and New York. But I agree that "important" has different meanings to different people, and that helping kids get started in a sport and helping them have a good experience is pretty darn important. (Even if they do think we're morons for making that slashing call.)

[3rdPersonPlural]

Prestige in sports at the raging hormone levels is only useful if you can convert it into another elusive commodity with the same first initial.

[LaxRef]

Prestige in sports at the raging hormone levels is only useful if you can convert it into another elusive commodity with the same first initial.

You must mean "pride." :chuckle:

[3rdPersonPlural]

You must mean "pride." :chuckle:

Uh......... :whyme:

[laxfan25]

Uh......... :whyme:
I hate these darn Reverse Quizzes! :nahya:

[3rdPersonPlural]

Well, chew on the answer for a while, Fan, so other less experienced posters can get a whack at it.

[LaxRef]

Well, chew on the answer for a while, Fan

Considering the topic at hand, that is, um, a very, uh, interesting choice of words.

[3rdPersonPlural]

Considering the topic at hand, that is, um, a very, uh, interesting choice of words.

Cunning of me, huh?