[movie]Jarhead

[HCrum05]

Ok guys, I went to see Jarhead last night at our campus theatre for an advance screening. It was pretty good, but not quite what I expected. It's more of a drama movie than it is an action movie. It has quite a lot of comedy in it too. Like I said, it's alright, but not as good as I was hoping. Let me know what you guys think about it.

[fenwicklax89]

kinda sounds like lord of war. i was expecting an action but its was mostly drama. would you recommend it?

[RockfordAttack9]

I think that Jarhead looks pretty sweet, probably gonna wait until it comes out on DVD though.

[shiftylax]

Yeah its not an action movie. It's more cerebral than people blowing stuff up. I read the book and I must say it was amazing. If the movie is 1/2 what the book was in terms of characterization then I'll be happy.

[BTlaxripper]

I thought it was a documentary.

Then it was like "starring Jamie Foxx"... and I was like "what the???"

Seriously, if somebody can make a documentary on the war in Iraq, give us an experience of the action they see over there would be a good documentary.

I'm disappointed.

[The Chariot]

I'm looking forward to this movie being more of a drama than action. Supposed to go see it tomorrow, I never go see a movie on release night, no dice this time either. I definatly want to see it sometime this weekend.

[NC-LACROSSE]

I thought it was a documentary.

Then it was like "starring Jamie Foxx"... and I was like "what the???"

Seriously, if somebody can make a documentary on the war in Iraq, give us an experience of the action they see over there would be a good documentary.

I'm disappointed.

just so u no its about the first gulf war its illegal to make books or movies about the war going on right now

anyways i think its gonna be great im saving monny so me and lmy friends can all go see it!!!




forgot to ad this (i dont like edititng) if it is a dramma and it looks like it is im rally going to see it cause i love dramma csi and all that stuff

YA JARHEAD

plus my cousin was sorta involed in the war right now (the second gulf war)

[NC-LACROSSE]

Mavido Edit : you dont like editing? well i dont like double posting. Dont do it. Editing will sufice.

[bloodilax977]

let me just say.

HOO RAH!

[GBaschski]

Going to see it tomorrow with a few friends, it looks pretty sweet.

[zak]

just so u no its about the first gulf war its illegal to make books or movies about the war going on right now
Its also illegal for you to be on the internet.

If anyone has read the book and seen the movie, would you reccomend one over the other?

[LaXiN22]

I heard there was very little action or war scenes.

[JoshM]

just so u no its about the first gulf war its illegal to make books or movies about the war going on right now

anyways i think its gonna be great im saving monny so me and lmy friends can all go see it!!!
It is not 'illegal' to make media about the War in Iraq, it just can't give away information that 'would threaten national security'.

[zak]

I heard there was very little action or war scenes.

I think I heard that somewhere too.....

It's more of a drama movie than it is an action movie.
I'm looking forward to this movie being more of a drama than actionYeah its not an action movie. It's more cerebral than people blowing stuff up
i was expecting an action but its was mostly drama

[UNCdefense]

dude i just love watching hte previews so i can see Jamie Fox go "Hoo Rah" at the end...you gotta give it that tone though for it to sound tight......it's become my new saying to celebrate with in games after goals/wins etc...
(shut your mouth when your talking to me & i hope you go to hell.....i hope you go to hell & DIE! are my other 2)

[NC-LACROSSE]

dude i just love watching hte previews so i can see Jamie Fox go "Hoo Rah" at the end...you gotta give it that tone though for it to sound tight......it's become my new saying to celebrate with in games after goals/wins etc...
(shut your mouth when your talking to me & i hope you go to hell.....i hope you go to hell & DIE! are my other 2)

wow another north carolina lax guy (dont get to many of those were i live like 200 players in all elementary middle and high) anyways thats excactly wat i thought to except that when i waste sombody ill go Hoo Rah in my own tone and then say welcome to my foot u sore losser(as in halo2 or any other gun game i may decide to rent.)

[Levin]

I thought it was a documentary.

Then it was like "starring Jamie Foxx"... and I was like "what the???"

Seriously, if somebody can make a documentary on the war in Iraq, give us an experience of the action they see over there would be a good documentary.

I'm disappointed.

Heads up, go rent the movie 'Gunners Palace' great movie imo, its about the soldiers that were stationed at Suddam's son's pleasure palace... loved it.


Anyways, for everybody talking about it being more of a drama than an action movie, you have to take in mind that the whole Desert Storm WAR only lasted about 2 weeks. The book/movie is more about Swoff's experience in the Marine Corps as a Scout/Sniper, than about his combat experience. Along with that, i would highley recommend the book itself, great read.

[middie&dLax2]

the movie looks awsome, the previews make me wanna join the marines(sp?)

[Levin]

the movie looks awsome, the previews make me wanna join the marines(sp?)

you spelt it correctly, but its captalized... Marines.

[Fartman]

if the movie is 1/2 as good as the book, it will be AMAZING. you all should read that book.

[isuckatlax]

i really want to see it as well, who is the author of the book by the way...

[GeorgiaMiddie2]

the movie looks awsome, the previews make me wanna join the marines(sp?)
Yeah, go ahead and join today... in a year, you'll be sittin in the desert watchin your buddy get his head blown off (if you're lucky enough not to be him) by a group of terrorists who dont want you on their land... oh, and did i mention that your body armor consists of a jacket with a 4 inch plate sewn into the left breast???

[laxattack8888]

Yeah, something tells me I won't go and see it. I'm more of a pacifist anyways, and really don't like war, or even seeing it being acted in movies.

[Diesel4958]

Who is the book by?

[ghettomedowgael]

Just to let you know the book and movie is very fictional, and doesn't represent the marines in anyway...
Some dude was upset about this.


“Jarhead”


A Marine Scout Sniper’s Critique

The book “Jarhead” first and foremost is a work of FICTION! The sale of this book to the public under any other category is an exercise in misinformation! Simply put, this book was written by a disturbed individual that has done a great injustice to ALL Marines, and especially to the Scout Sniper Community. In my two decades of service, most of which was as a Scout Sniper, I never saw or heard of such a dysfunctional Platoon...period! There definitely were no Strategic Target and Acquisition (STA), or Scout Sniper Platoons that would have remotely tolerated the author or some of the bogus subject matter in his book. No Marine would get away with the sorted events that are portrayed in the Book “Jarhead” whether they were in a combat zone or not. This book paints a negative image of the United States Marine Corps in a way that will do nothing but harm to that great Organization. Parents may never encourage their young sons and daughters to be part of the Corps and especially endorse a desire to become a Marine Scout Sniper. We, as a community are constantly having to prove that we are not “elitists” or “**** birds” and this book will be yet one more hurdle to explain away. The constant act of urinating on himself in times of stress, the complete disregard for SNCO’s and Officers, and the overall WRONG sniper information(he states that snipers clean their rifles in pairs so one man can hold the barrel while the other punches the bore from the CROWN???), are just a few of the areas where Mr. Swafford misses the boat and defies his credibility. In defense of the Marines of STA, 2/7, I have to say that I had the privilege of working with and training many of those “REAL” Scout Snipers and I know that they are both embarrassed, betrayed and hurt by this account of their actions in the Gulf War. Mr. Swafford admits that he is not a school trained sniper (8541) but readily talks about his capabilities as being equal to or better than the 8541's in his unit. He admits to wearing a Hog’s tooth ( a sniper’s bullet and badge of honor) which is a slap in the face to all 8541's. In summary, I would say to all Marines and especially the Scout Sniper Community that they need to be aware of this book and it’s misleading contents as it has already had a negative impact on the Corps. This self-admitted atheist has completely fooled the liberal, “tree-hugging” left with his anti-war/anti-Marine Corps dribble and we as Marines need to stand up for what is right at every turn. “To defend the country ...foreign and domestic” as I see this book as an anti-American, support mechanism for the forces that would endanger the lives of our family, friends, and fellow military personnel. I concur with Mr. Swafford’s Platoon Sergeant’s comment from the Gulf War that: “ this individual needs professional help!”



Semper Fidelis,


Neil K. Morris

MSgt, USMC (Ret.)

Executive Vice President,

United States Marine Corps, Scout Sniper Association




He seeems pretty mad, so i am guessing he is telling the truth

[Krypt0M4g!c]

I dunno.. just by the trailer and its hip-hop themed music... I can assume that it will suck... who the hell puts that crap in a war movie or drama? It should actually have music that has composition to it, to make it feel epic. Like some crazy orchestra stuff.

[laxrat22]

I dunno.. just by the trailer and its hip-hop themed music... I can assume that it will suck... who the hell puts that crap in a war movie or drama? It should actually have music that has composition to it, to make it feel epic. Like some crazy orchestra stuff.

oh man, this may just upset some people. but what do i know. anyway jesus walks is a pretty dramatic song, i think it fits the trailer pretty well. and you shouldn't judge a movie like this by the music of its trailer, give it more of a shot than that

[Jpettit25]

And if you actually listened to the lyrics of the song, you would realize it's almost direct relation to the movie and what it is trying to portray.

[marflax33]

hoo rah. Looks like an ok movie. Buts its republicanly based right??? and not just a bunch of cracks about how the war is bad?

[Krypt0M4g!c]

And if you actually listened to the lyrics of the song, you would realize it's almost direct relation to the movie and what it is trying to portray.

That people are weak and need to turn to some non-existence spirit for guidance just so they can perserveare? No thank you.

[HdGLaxWarrior]

I dunno.. just by the trailer and its hip-hop themed music... I can assume that it will suck... who the hell puts that crap in a war movie or drama? It should actually have music that has composition to it, to make it feel epic. Like some crazy orchestra stuff.

You are the biggest critic ever.

Who cares what music they use. I believe 'Jesus Walks' has that militaristic backround to it.

[Jpettit25]

Symbolism... And also yes, it does have a militaristic background.. not only the beat, but the beginning starts with a drill sergeant calling cadence and commands in the background.

[HCrum05]

That people are weak and need to turn to some non-existence spirit for guidance just so they can perserveare? No thank you.

Don't turn this into a religious argument. It's about a movie, so stay on topic. Also, whoever asked, I would recommend this movie, but not if you're expecting a lot of fighting.

[Frndlefire]

You are the biggest critic ever.

Who cares what music they use. I believe 'Jesus Walks' has that militaristic backround to it.
Nothing in a movie is there by mistake so everything is open to criticism. I care about these things...but then again...I am a movie loser...


I probably won't go see it. I am not a big one for the glorification of war and that is the tone I kind of felt was set by the trailer. I like some war movies (Kubrick is solid), but sometimes have trouble dismissing how horrible it is when I watch a movie that portrays war in a very light tone.

[shiftylax]

You know what's funny about that Marine's rant?

He spelled Swofford's name wrong.

Swoff pissed a lot of people off with that book, but he wrote it for a reason. He wanted, and needed, to get his experience off his chest. That is what writer's do, they write to express themselves or relieve themselves of a burden. To Swofford, being in Iraq and being trained to kill and then having nothign to kill was almost too much for him to handle. A lot of people that are cirticizing his book haven't read it - the same thing happened with Kevin Smith's Dogma - everyone was flipping out when they hadn't even seen it.

I think that this is a very important "war movie" if oyu want to call it that, because it can and probably will show this generation what "new warfare" is all about. No military personnel will support this film openly because, frankly, it will hurt their recruiting. Life in the Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force etc. are NOT likethey appear in the propoganda commercials on TV.

Hopefully the younger members of this board WILL go see Jarhead and learn something from it, be it positive or negative. The film has something to offer.

[GeorgiaMiddie2]

No military personnel will support this film openly because, frankly, it will hurt their recruiting. Life in the Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force etc. are NOT likethey appear in the propoganda commercials on TV.

Oh my goodness... someone else actually realizes this. I hate the way the military is run... they way they they make all these promises to you and then more often than not, fail to deliver... the way they portray the military as a great, rewarding career where they give you great training that every employer in the civilian world respects... the way they portray the reserves as a program where you show up to some military base a few times a year and get paid to just train, and that no one ever gets called... they way they make it look like every man that goes in comes out an outstanding gentleman of society, when the truth is that war ruins a lot of men, and a lot of the men who go in come out just as corrupt then when they went in. Finally, i hate how anyone who makes any sort of public statement/publication of the horrors they experienced in the war and how the military mistreated them are immediately shot down and harrased as being "unpatriotic".

[Frndlefire]

This self-admitted atheist has completely fooled the liberal, “tree-hugging” left with his anti-war/anti-Marine Corps dribble and we as Marines need to stand up for what is right at every turn.
how'd this sneak in...


...then again, liberals are the cause of all the world's woes. wanna bong toke and burn a flag?

[HdGLaxWarrior]

I thought it was a documentary.

Then it was like "starring Jamie Foxx"... and I was like "what the???"

Seriously, if somebody can make a documentary on the war in Iraq, give us an experience of the action they see over there would be a good documentary.

I'm disappointed.

Gulf War*.

[GBaschski]

Yeah, go ahead and join today... in a year, you'll be sittin in the desert watchin your buddy get his head blown off (if you're lucky enough not to be him) by a group of terrorists who dont want you on their land... oh, and did i mention that your body armor consists of a jacket with a 4 inch plate sewn into the left breast???

Well you wouldn't want to be pessimistic or anything.

[HdGLaxWarrior]

Yeah, go ahead and join today... in a year, you'll be sittin in the desert watchin your buddy get his head blown off (if you're lucky enough not to be him) by a group of terrorists who dont want you on their land... oh, and did i mention that your body armor consists of a jacket with a 4 inch plate sewn into the left breast???

And that I mention that Kerry voted against giving our troops more protection? Way to go bud.

[scruffy221]

Yeah, go ahead and join today... in a year, you'll be sittin in the desert watchin your buddy get his head blown off (if you're lucky enough not to be him) by a group of terrorists who dont want you on their land... oh, and did i mention that your body armor consists of a jacket with a 4 inch plate sewn into the left breast???- Quoted from GAMid


Oh my goodness... someone else actually realizes this. I hate the way the military is run... they way they they make all these promises to you and then more often than not, fail to deliver... the way they portray the military as a great, rewarding career where they give you great training that every employer in the civilian world respects... the way they portray the reserves as a program where you show up to some military base a few times a year and get paid to just train, and that no one ever gets called... they way they make it look like every man that goes in comes out an outstanding gentleman of society, when the truth is that war ruins a lot of men, and a lot of the men who go in come out just as corrupt then when they went in. Finally, i hate how anyone who makes any sort of public statement/publication of the horrors they experienced in the war and how the military mistreated them are immediately shot down and harrased as being "unpatriotic".- Also Quoted from GAMid


I seriously doubt that you are in the Military, and that anyone in youre family is in the military. It is also a good assumption that you are so far left that you'd like to go join AL Qaeda or Hamas or something like that. Honestly you make me sick and I openly HATE people like you, because you are why our country is so divided. There are some Libs who are willing to compromise, they aren't bad people and you are not one of them, you fight the cohesion of our government and our society, you are part of the problem my friend, not part of the solution. By the way send me some proof of your "horrors of war" and please dont send me some liberally edited propaganda piece of news footage.

[NC-LACROSSE]

You know what's funny about that Marine's rant?

He spelled Swofford's name wrong.

Swoff pissed a lot of people off with that book, but he wrote it for a reason. He wanted, and needed, to get his experience off his chest. That is what writer's do, they write to express themselves or relieve themselves of a burden. To Swofford, being in Iraq and being trained to kill and then having nothign to kill was almost too much for him to handle. A lot of people that are cirticizing his book haven't read it - the same thing happened with Kevin Smith's Dogma - everyone was flipping out when they hadn't even seen it.

I think that this is a very important "war movie" if oyu want to call it that, because it can and probably will show this generation what "new warfare" is all about. No military personnel will support this film openly because, frankly, it will hurt their recruiting. Life in the Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force etc. are NOT likethey appear in the propoganda commercials on TV.

Hopefully the younger members of this board WILL go see Jarhead and learn something from it, be it positive or negative. The film has something to offer.


YES I TOTALLY AGREE!!! :agree: My grandpa went into the army and look wat happend to him, he became a drug adict, divorced his wife, became a chain smoker and an achohalic,and left 5 of his kids and an even worse mother in a run down shack to live of of wellfare :crazy: ...i will never ever join the army. :angry:
IM STILL SEEING JARHEAD THOUGH CUZ IT LOOKS SWEET.

(just so u no my family isnt poor anymore and not one of my family scince has joined the army.)

[shiftylax]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I never said anything about the militray being this evil entity. It's just not what it's made out to be. I don't have a vendetta against the Marine corps or any other branch of military service. My father was an army ranger and a secret service communications officer, my grandfather was in the army in the korean war and my great grandfather was a paratrooper in WW2 that got his legs blown off jumping out of a plane.

The thing I object to is the recruiting techniques that are being used to make the military into this awesome future for kids that can't afford to go to college. Is the GI bill great? Yeah, sure it is. But would you risk death for a chance to go to college at a state school?

My real issue with peopel hating this movie and what it supposedly stand for is that those people are either in the system, or are "fans" of the system.

My best friend was yanked out fo college his junior year (my senior year) to go sit in a bunker in Okinawa. And I was really, really pissed off about it. However, when he got bakc he explained a lot of things to me abotu the military and what it gave him, and what he brought to it. While he was gone i had written a lto of stuff about how pissed I was about him leaving and he told me to go read Jarhead to help em understand what he was goign through, and why. I did read it and it helped. The book itself has become a hotpoint issue for me and all fo ym friends again as he is being shipped out again - this time to Iraq - and also got married to his girlfriend (with no ceremony) last weekend for the sole purpose of her getting his pension if he dies over there. And let me tell you this, I got so angry at him (he could have gotten out of going over there VERY easily) I thought about joining just to get shipped over myself.

So am I biased on defending this movie? Yeah, I am. Was I in the military? No. (I do, however, get asked if I was/am ALL the time for some reason.) I am close to subject matter, and am a fan of the book for more important reasons than "it's good". So I'm goin to see the movie, but that doesn't make me leftist, unpatriotic or unappreciative of what the military does for my family and I.

[NC-LACROSSE]

srry for getting caught up ion the moment im not mad either the military and navy soilders wiether voluntary or not protect us and we should be grateful. jarhead will rocka and i love war movies its just that some peoples sad stories r there life and u shouldnt get caught up in them unless it matters and if u care for them but back tot he point jarhead has jamie fox and personaly i like the fact hes in there i no hes a comedian but just cuz he is dosnt make it right for some people to critizise him u no i think he'll play the pat good.

[Thrillhouse]

When my brother in law got back from Iraq he let me try on his vest. The actual vest is made of Kevlar and weights 8.4 pounds. Alone it could stop a 9 MM round. The plates (there are 2 of them, which actually slide into a sleeve, they are not sewn in) are 4 pounds of boron carbide ceramic that could stop an AK-47 round. The whole thing weighs 16.4 pounds. When I tried it on I almost fell over. I couldn’t imagine how hard it is to wear one of those things in the desert heat.

They cost $1,500 each, and judging by the amount of lives they have saved, they are worth every penny.

[GeorgiaMiddie2]

I seriously doubt that you are in the Military, and that anyone in youre family is in the military. It is also a good assumption that you are so far left that you'd like to go join AL Qaeda or Hamas or something like that. Honestly you make me sick and I openly HATE people like you, because you are why our country is so divided. There are some Libs who are willing to compromise, they aren't bad people and you are not one of them, you fight the cohesion of our government and our society, you are part of the problem my friend, not part of the solution. By the way send me some proof of your "horrors of war" and please dont send me some liberally edited propaganda piece of news footage.
Oh, really?? because my brother's getting shipped off in february to fight... he started out 18 months ago, being promised to get in the nursing program. once he signed up though, the spot he was promised was not there after all, so he had to join the mechanics program. now that he's in the mechanics program, he's not getting any training... they're bringing in civilian specialists to fix vehicles so that he can stand at the gates of the base and stand guard duty... wow, gotta love the Army!! Secondly, I don't want to go join Al Qaeda... in fact, i actually agreed with Bush after he sent troops to afghanistan to take out Osama. But, when he invaded Iraq, that was wrong. They had no WMD's, and it's not our job to be the world's police and take out Saddam, esp when the rest of the world disagrees with us going into Iraq. Where is Osama, by the way, because i havent heard his name in over a year... i thought we were "tightening the noose"... And, you want some horrors of war?? ask anyone who has been in war. War is not pretty. My grandfather was in WWII and would tell us stories, and would actually break down in tears in the middle of the story because it was so horrific. My brother tells me of how sad it is that, every day, he has to bury the bodies of his friends who were deployed when they ship em back to the base. He tells me of how guys come back to the base with completely different personalities after they've been over there. You think war is pretty??? War is anything but pretty. Finally, how am i part of the problem? Because i don't support everything our government is doing?? guess what... this is america. i dont have to agree with everything. If everyone in history would have constantly agreed with the government, we would be nowhere near as powerful and great of a country as we are today. It's people like you who call me unpatriotic for speaking out against the current administration, when actually you are the unpatriotic one for criticizing me for exercising my right to speak my opinion! So just remember that it's not a very good idea to make assumptions...

And, as for the guy who said kerry voted against the war appropriations bill... guess what the republicans failed to tell you? 1. The bill was introduced over 10 years ago, even before bush was iin office, at a time when our men were not in need of the weapons and the armor. And, 2. politicians like to sneak little clauses into bills so that they can get what they want. There were things in that bill that ridiculous, which is why almost no one voted for that stuff. For instance, they may sneak in a clause that says it is illegal to wear red hats (ok, it's fictional, but you get the point). And finally, most of the republicans voted against it too!!! It's because of those stupid, irrelevant clauses that i just mentioned, and because we werent in need of that stuff over 10 years ago...

[GeorgiaMiddie2]

Well you wouldn't want to be pessimistic or anything.
I'm not pessimistic... it's what happens... we dont have enough troops to fight this war we never should have started. So, instead, people are getting their tours extended and heading back over multiple times... that's right i know a guy who is leaving next month for the 5th time to go to Iraq... why? because it would look bad on the current administration to bring back the draft, esp when half of america already doesnt agree with the war in Iraq.

[Trilax03]

i thought i was gonna b ok but i just saw it tonight and it was pretty sweet...the beginning is funny then towards the end it gets serious...but overall i really liked it

[slinkyspine]

i thought i was gonna b ok but i just saw it tonight and it was pretty sweet...the beginning is funny then towards the end it gets serious...but overall i really liked it

sounds like FMJ alot like FMJ

[lyonsvt]

...it's HUA (pronounced HOO-AH), not f***ing "Hoo-Rah". I don't know if the movie got it right or not, but if they didn't get that right, I'm not going to see it.

Edit: my bad, for some reason i thought it was a ranger movie. carry on.

[GBaschski]

Just got back from seeing Jarhead. It had some funny moments, some serious moments. Overall a great movie. Pretty deep at some points, and gave me a new perspective on a lot of things. I reccomend the $7 to go see it.

[slinkyspine]

...it's HUA (pronounced HOO-AH), not f***ing "Hoo-Rah". I don't know if the movie got it right or not, but if they didn't get that right, I'm not going to see it.

Edit: my bad, for some reason i thought it was a ranger movie. carry on.


i some how tihnk your wrong but carry on im a canuk and you american and such

[HdGLaxWarrior]

i thought i was gonna b ok but i just saw it tonight and it was pretty sweet...the beginning is funny then towards the end it gets serious...but overall i really liked it

sounds like FMJ alot like FMJ

Yes, yes it does.

[franks2089]

I liked the part where they listed suggested activities to prevent boredom and every other one was masturbate. That part was funny when the main character was dancing with a santa hat covering his junk.

[franks2089]

Yeah, go ahead and join today... in a year, you'll be sittin in the desert watchin your buddy get his head blown off (if you're lucky enough not to be him) by a group of terrorists who dont want you on their land... oh, and did i mention that your body armor consists of a jacket with a 4 inch plate sewn into the left breast???
You shouldn't talk bad about joining the military. Just because you are too scared to go and fight doesn't mean we can fix what we screwed up and kill the rest of the threats over there.

[GeorgiaMiddie2]

yeah, scared to fight... that's it... i'm just not gonna go fight in an unjustified war. and why shouldnt i talk bad about joining the military... because it's unpatriotic?... please, dont tell me that is your reasoning...

[Frndlefire]

yeah, scared to fight... that's it... i'm just not gonna go fight in an unjustified war. and why shouldnt i talk bad about joining the military... because it's unpatriotic?... please, dont tell me that is your reasoning...
yea, I wish you didn't hate america so much, georgia





America, f' yea!!!

[GeorgiaMiddie2]

i know... this hatred for my own country just goes so deep... i mean, thats the reason im so involved in american politics... so i can throw my hate for america all over the place...

[slinkyspine]

haha georgia your so angry sometimes

[GeorgiaMiddie2]

not angry... just annoyed how ppl can have the balls to call me names like unpatriotic just because i dont agree with the norm or with the current administration.

[LongIslandLax]

Who is the book by?

Its by Anthony Swofford.

[franks2089]

not angry... just annoyed how ppl can have the balls to call me names like unpatriotic just because i dont agree with the norm or with the current administration.
I'm not saying that you shouldnt disagree with the war in Iraq, I'm saying that you shouldn't talk bad about the military. The president tells the military where to go. But talking bad about people that are risking their lifes everyday is definately unpatriotic. talk all you want about the president not the military.

[smooth87]

On the war, I agree with Georgia. I don't think we should still be over there. I don't think invading Iraq was the decision I would have made.

I think Mark Twain said it best: "My kind of loyalty was loyalty to one's country, not to its institutions or its office-holders."

[GeorgiaMiddie2]

I'm not saying that you shouldnt disagree with the war in Iraq, I'm saying that you shouldn't talk bad about the military. The president tells the military where to go. But talking bad about people that are risking their lifes everyday is definately unpatriotic. talk all you want about the president not the military.
No, military is just an extension of the government. i support our troops with all of my heart. In fact the reason i dont support the military is because of the way they mislead civilians and recruits, and the way they treat their troops. the military is just a big bureaucracy which is full of empty promises. I never used to feel this strongly about the military, but since my brother has joined and hearing what he has to tell me in his phone calls every week, i feel that the military needs some major change.

[franks2089]

No, military is just an extension of the government. i support our troops with all of my heart. In fact the reason i dont support the military is because of the way they mislead civilians and recruits, and the way they treat their troops. the military is just a big bureaucracy which is full of empty promises. I never used to feel this strongly about the military, but since my brother has joined and hearing what he has to tell me in his phone calls every week, i feel that the military needs some major change.
Your not the only one. I have had a dad and two cousins fight in Iraq, and my dad was shot and now walks with a terrible limp. I guess I just overreacted.

[twin58]

Heads up, go rent the movie 'Gunners Palace'....

Agree. Gunner Palace (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424129/)

Typical barracks language.

[twin58]

When my brother in law got back from Iraq he let me try on his vest. ... They cost $1,500 each....

Was it provided by the government, or did he have to buy it himself?

[Jpettit25]

Anyway, the tag says [Movie], not [Politics].

I thought it was a good movie. Definitely not action, but more of a philosophical movie that gets you thinking. It started off a lot like FMJ, following a squad of Marines through Training and their first deployment. From that point on though, it really veered away from the action that was in FMJ. It still contained the philosophical parts, but these did not come packaged with action. If you liked Crash, you'll like this one. If you liked Black Hawk Down or Tears of the Sun, you may not like this so much because of the lack of action.

[Thrillhouse]

Was it provided by the government, or did he have to buy it himself?

The Marines gave it to him.

[GeorgiaMiddie2]

well, the marines have much better body armor than the army, because my bro's body armor wasnt near that nice... if fact, it's so bad, that my dad is thinkin about buying him some better body armor himself.