Inadvertent Flag Down Quiz

[eme]

2006 NCAA rules.

Flag is down for Team B offsides while Team A has possession in Team A's attack goal area.

Scene One. Play is continuing when Trail official realizes a mistake has been made and is about to blow the play dead when A1 loses his defender, shoots,
and misses the cage. Attackman A2 snares the line drive just before Trail official blows his whistle.


Scene Two. Play continues. Team A shoots and ball goes out of bounds. Whistle. Now Trail official realizes that the flag down is inadvertent.


Scene Three. Play continues. A1 shoots, misses, and A2 comes up with the ball. A2 drives around the cage, misses, and A3 snares the errant shot. He drives to the cage and scores. Now Trail official realizes flag was inadvertent.
Coach B says goal should not count and they should get possession as they have first AP.

Your response in all 3 scenarios?

[pboyd]

1: Award ball to Team A (team in possession at time of whislte) - outside attack goal area.
2: Award ball to team entitled to possession on the out of bounds shot - restart where ball went out of bounds.
3: Goal counts - faceoff.

[LaxRef]

2006 NCAA rules.

Flag is down for Team B offsides while Team A has possession in Team A's attack goal area.

Scene One. Play is continuing when Trail official realizes a mistake has been made and is about to blow the play dead when A1 loses his defender, shoots, and misses the cage. Attackman A2 snares the line drive just before Trail official blows his whistle.

Normally, the play is dead with the action that makes you decide to blow the whistle, not with the actual whistle. Here, however, the trail is supposed to withhold the whistle if there's a scoring play in progress. There's a shot, which is missed. Ball awarded by A.P. outside the box. Possesion is irrelvant because team A got a shot off.

Scene Two. Play continues. Team A shoots and ball goes out of bounds. Whistle. Now Trail official realizes that the flag down is inadvertent.

There's a shot, which is missed. Ball awarded by A.P. outside the box.

Scene Three. Play continues. A1 shoots, misses, and A2 comes up with the ball. A2 drives around the cage, misses, and A3 snares the errant shot. He drives to the cage and scores. Now Trail official realizes flag was inadvertent. Coach B says goal should not count and they should get possession as they have first AP.

This is the good one. When I submitted this rule, I didn't know that the new flag-down rule would be in effect this year. By the letter of the rule, when that first shot is missed, you kill the play, so there would be no goal. I think we need to ask the NCAA for a ruling on this one.

[eme]

Scene 3 is indeed the good one. There was a shot; in fact 3 shots. By the new rule you go AP after a shot. I would think the officials, knowing that there was a shot that missed prior to the goal would disallow the goal. "Coach, you correct. There was a missed shot and we didn't stop the play and we shoud have stopped the play. Ball goes AP."

Just as if there was a crease violation before goal...officials realized it after the ball went in. No goal.